Yesterday, we discussed the horrific allegations against police from Deming, New Mexico and the medial staff of Gila Regional Medical Center in Silver City, N.M. They (and others including the local prosecutor) allegedly conducted repeated digital anal searches of man stopped for a minor traffic violation and then performed multiple enemas and a colonoscopy in search of drugs. David Eckert has sued for both compensatory and punitive damages. However, I learned today that in addition to the alleged physical abuse, he was sent a $6000 bill from the hospital for the involuntary colonoscopy.
His lawyer says that the hospital sent him the bill, which is perfectly bizarre. They must be treating this as if he had come into the hospital unconscious and required the procedure. Yet, he was objecting to the procedures and the other intrusive measures taken against him. Hopefully, the court will rule against the likely motion al limine filed by the hospital to keep the bill out of the trial. I would love to see the jury that is informed at the end of this alleged nightmare, Eckert received a bill for his mistreatment. As opposing counsel, it is sometimes better to be the one to mention such damaging facts in your opening argument to avoid Plaintiff’s counsel dropping it with greater effect at trial.
What is clear is that, regardless of the outcome at trial, someone needs to be fired for such absurd acts. My assumption is that the police declined the bill for the procedure but it is not clear who made this decision.
Source: US News
Oky1:
I have long thought that the average citizen of the US should get together with his fellows and start a national lobbying firm which looks out for their interests. Get 100 million people paying 5 bucks a month and you are talking about 6 billion dollars/year to influence the political climate in this country.
If you cant beat Wall St. in the voting booth then beat them on their own terms.
Rafflaw/Elaine/Mike:
I witnessed this phenomenon with my mother in-law. I dont know how wide spread it is. But you have 2 people saying it happens. In fact my wife pointed it out to me and also said her grandmother did the same thing.
Those are 3 separate individuals who did what you are denying the elderly do. All living beings of a particular species act in certain ways specific to that species. And all human beings have certain behaviors at each stage in life.
Based on this, I can predict that squirrels in Montana bury nuts for the winter even though I have never seen a Montana squirrel but I have seen Virginia and California and Missouri squirrels do so. Similarly I can also say that some seniors [not all because Elaine and Blouise say they dont] use doctor visits for social outings because I know of at least 3 who did. If there are 3 there are probably others who do the same for the same reason.
Quite frankly I am at a loss to understand why this simple concept is hard for you to accept/understand. Is it because there can be not criticism of medicare? Or is it because since you dont engage in this behavior it must not happen?
If I was confronted with 2 separate empirical accounts as to an occurrence in nature, I would probably check it out before I came to any conclusions.
You can denigrate me and DavidM all you want but that isnt going to change reality. She is a tough master and we are seeing the results of evasion in our country.
“Man, being the servant and interpreter of Nature, can do and understand so much and so much only as he has observed in fact or in thought of the course of nature. Beyond this he neither knows anything nor can do anything.”
“Human knowledge and human power meet in one; for where the cause is not known the effect cannot be produced. Nature to be commanded must be obeyed; and that which in contemplation is as the cause is in operation as the rule.”
Francis Bacon
Goldman Sachs crook, Corzine drove Dem voters away last election, and this Dem had the base scratching their heads.
raff, Real Clear Politics surveys all major polls. EVERY major poll has people being opposed to Obamacare. They average out 52%-41% opposed. Nice try, though.
sob finally posted, i;m out 🙂
5th repost
The trouble with this current form of socialism is it works great until Wallyyst/City of Londonn runs out of your money to spend on themselves.
**helpOky1 1, November 7, 2013 at 3:52 pm
Looks like WP ate another post
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1 of 2: Ya Wally st doesn’t like this free speech, Re: 4:29,
**Juliet N. 1, November 7, 2013 at 3:19 pm
If Republicans (and libertarians) don’t want legislation “rammed” down their throats, they should try winning more elections. Just a thought.
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The Wallst Corporations have most every Democrat/Republican congressmen/senator/prez & statehouses working solely for their interest.
Maybe we should attempt to organize & hire representatives to represent our interest?
Of course in order to do that Demo/Repub voters would need to be deprogrammed from their military style brainwashing they currently operating under.
“The trouble with this current form of socialism is it works great until Wallst/City of London runs out of your money to spend on themselves.”
This isn’t it, but it’s down range.
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Mike Adams
Natural News
November 4, 2013
The primary tool of socialism is force, and while that force usually begins with good intentions codified into law, it inevitably ends up with the kind of force used by Mao Zedong to murder millions of his own citizens. “Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun,” he famously stated, and Obama-supporting democrats are following in his footsteps. **
“The primary tool of Fascism is force, and while that force usually begins with good intentions codified into law, it inevitably ends up with the kind of force used by Adolph Hitler to murder millions of his own citizens. “Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun,” he famously stated, and Tea Party supporting Conservatives are following in his footsteps.”
Oky1,
Quoting someone who is merely name calling leads to revisions like that above.
Obama is not a Communist, nor is he a socialist, by any definition of those beliefs, except for that of some libertarians. Our political system in this country is in bad enough shape without resorting to hyperbole that is simply not true. I don’t know how old you are Oky1, but I’m 69. If Obama is a socialist then Dwight Eisenhower is a communist, as was Richard Nixon, because both their views were to the left of Obama and I know because I lived through their administrations.
What is occurring in this country is the redefinition of political systems by ultra rightist Corporatists like the Koch Brothers, who unfortunately have read too much of Ayn Rand. These Corporatists control government to a great degree, but they hate having to expend any energy/money controlling it. They are rich enough not to need any government at all. Hell the don’t even need roads because they can helicopter to and fro. The government of the United States, set up by our founders in the Constitution has been made the enemy, rather then looking at what is really going on. Our government is under the control of those same Corporatists (doesn’t matter which party) and that is the problem, not the government. Barack Obama has not been a good President, but you must agree that a major part of the reason is that he followed the policies of G.W. Bush when it comes to war, spying and torture. Are you calling G.W. Bush a socialist as well?
We agree on a lot of things Oky1, but this one I can’t let pass because the misuse of words adds to the confusion the Koch Bros., ALEC and their allies are trying to keep us all in. Your enemies aren’t “liberals”, nor are they “conservatives” because those are just labels used to play with your mind. Your enemies and my enemies, are the 1/2 of one percent of the wealthy who are determined to return us to feudalism and make you, me and our children serfs. Using labels, is like Sooner fans hating Longhorn fans because of the long rivalry. True conservatives like Dwight Eisenhower and true liberals like FDR had much to give OUR country, but today their work doesn’t get recognized because we are all being played by labels that are not only meaningless, but are incorrectly used.
As you alluded the only “socialism” going on in this country is “socialism for the rich, and “capitalism” for the poor. The only people benefiting from this are rich socialists like the Koch Bros., whose daddy made all their money doing work for Joseph Stalin.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/president-americans-losing-health-care-article-1.1510222
If you lost your current health-care plan under Obamacare, you have the President’s sympathies.
President Obama told NBC News that he is “sorry” that he did not keep his repeated promise that anyone who wanted to keep their present insurance plan could do so under the Affordable Care Act.
“I am sorry that they are finding themselves in this situation based on assurances they got from me,” Obama said in the interview, conducted at the White House.
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“We’ve got to work hard to make sure that they know we hear them and we are going to do everything we can to deal with folks who find themselves in a tough position as a consequence of this,” he said.
People who buy insurance on their own are at risk of being booted from their current policies because their plans don’t meet the standards of the new law.
LISTEN TO THE INDONESIAN IF YOU ALL WANT…. he’s is a communist and not here to help us one iota…..
Ok, no help for helpOky1, fine I’ll deal with it.
I know what WP/Wallst/DC puppets do not like.
You’ll see it right after this post or not.
“David and Bron,
If you are aware of Medicare fraud, shouldn’t you be reporting it?” (raff)
Excellent point especially if the doctors are still practicing medicine.
Some interesting toy facts:
The N J gubernatorial election voter turnout was 38% beating the N J record low for a governor’s race which was 47%, set four years ago … both were Christie races.
nick,
Actually Obamacare is polling very favorably, even with the website debacle.
David and Bron,
If you are aware of Medicare fraud, shouldn’t you be reporting it?
davidm wrote: “Bron, do you ever get the feeling that we live on a completely different planet from these people who frequent this blog? Sometimes I wonder if they are just toying with us. A few of them I feel certain are doing that.”
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Too funny! Both you and Bron frequent this blog. You must be living on the same planet as the rest of us.
I doubt there’s a word better I could add here, Gnite.
That’s good Oky1, even if I say so myself!
One of my best, powerful, directly to the issue at hand.
Hey you Aholes, I’m not writtening this stuff for free, I’ve a bunch of family & friends I care a great deal about………………..!
Damn, sober up, pay attention!
pdm,
Hadn’t you heard, didn’t you know, most of congress, senate, the prez, supreme court are aliens from the planet Titan Uranus!!!
The whole of the damned USA, suicidal prevs taken over for the wallst Banks/Insur scum.
Everyone one else involved looks like a Bad Guy!
Oh please Mr, give us some Obamacare. We Promise we’ll Squeal just like a Pig!
Is there nothing the current Americans wont drop their drawers for & Squeal like a Pig? No evidently
Bulletin
High School history teacher thinks Democrats control Supreme Court in 2010.
Sometime High School history teacher’s favorite SCOTUS judge is Antonin Scalia, a preference that says all that need to be said about his perspicacity.
“Oh, good grief! ” (Elaine)
lol … exactly!