The “Chip” People

By Mark Esposito, Guest Blogger

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Wonderful Gene Wilder With A Grammatically Correct Meme

When I was a young lawyer twenty-five years ago or so, I remember a particularly enlightening client meeting. A 30ish woman had scheduled an appointment to discuss a sexual harassment case against a prominent lawyer in town. Being the new guy at the firm but with some considerable jury trial experience even then, I was asked to sit in while our senior partner met with the client. The client arrived and began a convincing narrative about a sexually charged work place replete with provocative innuendo, being subjected to daily dirty jokes, some pass-by groping in the hallway and even arriving at the office in the morning with an open Penthouse magazine on her desk. Despite complaints to the other partners with nothing of substance being done, she claimed, the client had taken all she could and resigned citing this treatment as the reason. Since the claimed harassment involved a superior and a text-book hostile work environment seemed evident, we were seriously considering taking the case despite what we knew would be a no-holds barred defense.

When we came to the part of the meeting where we asked about corroborating evidence in the form of witnesses or documents confirming her version of events, the client’s demeanor changed from cool professionalism to anger. “Don’t you believe me?”, she shot back like a dagger. “No, it wasn’t that,” our senior guy said. “We just need to know what kind of case we can present.” Wrong answer! ” I don’t want a lawyer who doesn’t believe me. I know what happened and all you have to do is subpoena every staff person there and they’ll tell the truth.” I recall thinking at this moment about all the clients I represented and their look of absolute betrayal as witness after witness “couldn’t remember” this event or that one in deference to preserving their job status. I didn’t say anything, but the senior lawyer did. “Look,” he said quite understandingly I thought, “This is a bad situation for you but he’s a prominent person in the community. His firm is on tv doing all kinds of charitable work around the holidays. He has represented thousands of people in the area, is well-connected politically, and has tons of financial resources to throw at you. We need to know how strong your evidence is going to be.” That broke the camel’s back. “You’re in cahoots with him aren’t you?,” spat the client. “I was told you would take the case because I was in the right, but now all you want to do is talk me out of it by telling me how good his case is going to be.”

“No, not at all,” came the reply as the client was gathering up her papers to make a fast exit. “I not interested in you representing me ,” came the terse rejoinder and “I’m thinking about reporting you to the bar for being in league [with her tormentor].”  With that she turned on her heel and strode out the door. A little sheepish, I asked “Should I go and try to get her to come back? It looks like a winnable case to me, if we can get some confirmation of her story,” I asked. “No,” came the seasoned reply. “She’s a chip person,  and juries can smell that a mile away.” I went back to my desk thinking here was an intelligent person with a potential case who can’t step away from the emotion of the moment to aid even those who want to help her.  It’s an emotional blindness we all suffer from.

I thought about that while reading about the dust-up between Professor Leong and her Moriarty, dybbuk, as well as the unseemly sandbox dispute between Professors Campos and Leiter.  Let me know how these statements strikes you, the blog jury. First from Professor Leong’s website, Feminist Law Professors:

Some argue that racial and gender harassment are part and parcel of participation in online discourse.  As one white man commented on my prior post:  “Welcome to the jungle . . . . If you want to have a voice . . . just do what we have been doing for over a decade and laugh it off.”  (In context, “we” meant “white men.”)  Of course, it’s easy to talk about “laughing it off” when, because of your status as a white man, you’re virtually never the target of identity-based harassment that deploys historically subordinate or marginalized status as a silencing tool.

My obvious question is how does Leong know that her poster is a “white man”? Does he say so? Did she ask? Did she track him down and call his workplace to find out? Or is she just assuming and making the same stereotypical argument of which she complains herself? Are her assumptions about white men any more venomous than the assumptions about a “white man’s” reaction to her identity? My reaction, which I think some will share, is that Professor Leong is a “chip person.” That is she views every criticism through the lens of her own personal battle and doesn’t understand how the same statement would be viewed by an independent person freed from the emotional involvement of her circumstances.

And for Exhibit A consider this screen shot of the exchange between Leong and dybbuk which she entitles “Luau Train”:

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Leong’s take on the first comment: “Rather than explaining why (for example) he thinks that the racial capitalism framework is analytically flawed, the first commenter disparages my Native Hawaiian background with a reference to the “luau train.” He then attempts to undermine my intellectual contribution to an academic conference by claiming that the reason for my presence is to serve as an object of sexualized attention for a presumed heterosexual male audience.”

Professor Leong in word and deed (naming the image) obviously considers this comment by dybbuk to be a slur aimed at her heritage, but there is also a more benign interpretation that dybbuk is merely commenting about the location of her speech and not her heritage. Why does an educated person fail to consider the view of things than a simpleton like myself would have to concede could also be true? For his part, dybbuk claims he has no knowledge of Leong’s Hawaiian roots and was referring to the sumptuous spreads some speakers get at these seminars that never seem to be scheduled in Dubuque in the winter time.

Now consider the case of the dueling professors. Prof. Campos sends the following email to his apparent long-time intellectual adversary:

From: Paul F Campos [mailto:paul.campos@Colorado.EDU]

Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:03 AM

To: Leiter, Brian

Subject: Dybbuk

Brian,

I have been asked by somebody who has passed on (unsolicited) some potentially very embarrassing personal information about you to me, regarding your activities in cyberspace and some related goings-on in the real world, to make this information public, should you choose to “out” Dybbuk.

Paul

Professor Leiter upon receipt of the email launches a broadside attack lambasting Campos for, what he says, is “resorting to blackmail.” He then adds the following dittie that struck my logistician’s eye:

I am told by a colleague who teaches criminal law that this threat is blackmail (criminal “intimidation” as we call it in Illinois, or “extortion” or “criminal coercion” as it is in many other jurisdictions).  I have no idea what fabrications Campos would produce this time, but there is nothing truthful he could post, and he knows it.  (Remarkably, this is also not the first time Campos has tried to coerce another law professor with threats.)

You guessed it the classic logical fallacies of an ad hominem attack (Campos is bad because he’s done bad before and he lies ergo he is not to be believed) and a borderline appeal to authority (My colleague teaches criminal law hence he must be knowledgeable in charging decisions by local prosecutors. Maybe he does, but Leiter never tells us.) by an unknown source.

For his part, Professor Campos says his email was mere warning and the twisted grammar aside, it’s a reasonable interpretation especially if Lieter has already “outed” dybbuk thus making any such disclosure of “embarrassing personal information” an empty threat since the trigger on the disclosure has already been pulled.

Leiter comes off as prickly and seeking to find the worst possible interpretation of Campos’ actions. I don’t think a fair-minded person would make the same mistake in the courtroom or that other bastion of democracy, the court of public opinion. So why lose your case in both courts simply because you need to “strike back” by questioning anyone and anything that contradicts, in the slightest way, your interpretation of other people’s motives.

Ultimately these two episodes prove to me why litigants need to arrive at court with everything except that chip. It’s unattractive and lends an air of holy crusade to a civil dispute that the resolver of fact will assuredly sniff out. Juries have their limitations but divining motivation isn’t one of them. Oh, they can be mislead and fooled but  they never miss a chip the size of a 2×4.

As the pre-eminent blue ribbon jury on the blog-o-sphere what say you about these two alleged wrongs? Chip people or victims — or both?

~Mark Esposito, Guest Blogger

256 thoughts on “The “Chip” People”

  1. It has been said several times, my welcoming people is an homage to the deceased commenter, Idealist. He welcomed and mentored me through the jungle that existed @ the time. His fundamental philosophy was also mine, “the more the merrier.” I find it marvelous that just in the past week or so we have new people commenting. Although I am an optimist, I am savvy enough to know that some miss the past. But, different voices, different perspectives, are what Mr. Turley wants. It also happens to be what I have spoken for since I got here. I’m happy about the new civil atmosphere and new voices. It’s a progressive philosophy.

  2. Mespo,

    The graphic “Tell me again how your smarter …” should be “Tell me again how you’re smarter …” … unless “your smarter” is a body part.

  3. nick spinelli

    I would like to remind folks again that dybbuk is a public defender. And as I’ve said, I have NEVER met a conservative PD. All the ones I’ve known are liberal, quite liberal actually. I’ve known @ least 20-25. I have a couple as good friends, one is on my VERY limited cell phone contacts. I’m sure there are a few conservatives, but my guess is less than 5% or so. Just sayn’!
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    Studies show that this is to be expected (Conservatives Have Inquisitional Personalities). 😉

  4. Elaine, could it be that such people were never allowed to be hall monitors in their childhood and now recreate that role as adults? Just sayin’.

  5. annie,

    Nick is in the habit of warning newcomers to the blog about the ideologues and elitists and posters who aren’t “intellectually honest” that they may encounter here. He feels it’s his responsibility.

  6. Amazing how Spinelli feels he can speak for the community here. He is not my spokesperson Dr.No JD, nor for many here I suspect. Of course, I know better than to try to speak for them.

  7. Elaine,
    That is not at all what I am saying. I used to have a poster on my office wall that said, “Just Because You Are Paranoid Doesn’t Mean They Are Not Out To Get You.”

    Years ago, I interviewed a defendant whose lawyer wanted a mental competency exam before going to trial. The young man, wide eyed, told me in almost a whisper, “They are coming through the wall at night to get me. I can hear them. They are coming through the wall and they are going to get me.” He went on in that vein for some time.

    He had been transported by a deputy sheriff, who was waiting to see if we were going to keep the defendant or send him back to jail. I told the deputy the guy was hearing things, so we would keep him for further observation. The deputy wanted to know what he was hearing, and I told him.

    Deputy laughed. “He is not hearing things. We caught the guys in the next cell digging out some of the cement blocks so they could get at him. They want to kill him because he is a snitch.”

    I am pointing out that some litigants, and potential litigants, have their antennas out for every real and imagined slight. Real is one thing, but imagined quite another.

  8. Dr. No JD, You just impressed me. I’m glad you joined us and hope you stay. There are so many ideologues who are not intellectually honest. I’m talking BOTH left and right. There are so many negative and “positive” stereotypes on both sides. A “positive” stereotype is that liberals are not sexist, racist, etc. that’s strictly the purview of conservatives. You gave a great example of Bob Filner. We spend winters in San Diego. The FIRST time my very perceptive and more liberal wife saw Filner she physically shook and said, “That guy is a creep.”

    It’s heartening to hear your positive feedback about the exchanges on this blog. Some changes were made recently and you giving a spontaneous appraisal means a LOT to folks here.

  9. OS:

    “chronic mild auspiciousness”

    is that code language for the upper middle class?

  10. Elaine. Thanks for information. I always like a good storyteller. And, I must say, I’m enjoying the exchange on this blog. I have a handful that I read with regularity and I may have to add this to the rotation.

  11. Dr. No JD,

    Nick is always providing us with tales from his wide and varied life experiences. He’s our resident storyteller.

  12. Otteray,

    Don’t you think someone who was subjected to ongoing harassment at work would be adversely affected by it psychologically? Would that mean that the victim of the harassment had a paranoid personality disorder?

  13. Nick, I’m not sure how the political views of dybbuk matter. Liberals engage in sexism and racism too (as much as I wish we didn’t). Need an example? What about the San Diego Mayor disaster.

  14. I don’t think Leong sued anyone here. Or outed anyone. She told the bar what dybbuk did and asked them to determine whether to proceed. And blogged about varuous pseudonymous people who had posted sexist things about her; again without outing them to the world. And tried to contact her lead tormenter before telling the bar.

    I think that shows a lot more restraint than a chip person woukd exhibit — and I have certainly had a few chip clients and opposing parties.

  15. “Just sayin'” things that have absolutely nothing to do with sexism, cyberstalking and harassment.

  16. I have encountered any number of people such as the one Mark described in his story. I never heard the term “chip people,” and wondered if that is some kind of idiosyncratic regional slang. My take is probable paranoid personality disorder. Paranoia is not a static thing, but is on a continuum from chronic mild auspiciousness up to a paranoid psychosis. Over the years, I have run into more of them in child custody cases than any other type of case. Usually, the reason for the divorce and custody battle in the first place is the presence of a clinically significant paranoid disorder on the part of one of the parents.

    It is not unusual for the paranoid parent to file bar complaints against all the lawyers and even the judge. The same goes for any experts unfortunate enough to get caught in the middle.

    Here is a typical example. The somewhat paranoid losing party who wants all the experts to provide an itemized statement for the time they spent reading medical and legal histories. They only want to pay for the time the expert spent reading about their part of the case, and not any reading time on the estranged spouse’s material. I have seen losing parties spend thousands for legal fees obtaining more depositions and added hearings, trying to save a couple of hundred dollars in such instances. I really don’t understand why any lawyer would be desperate enough, or hungry enough, to take such a case.

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