The Rolling Stone Magazine and it writer, Sabrina Rubin Erdely (right), are facing yet another story detailing the astonishing lapses in journalistic ethics and practices related to its article about a rape on the University of Virginia campus. Among the most starting is a statement by Erdely that a key student would not speak with her about the rape out of loyalty to his fraternity. That student says that Erdely never contacted him and that he would have been more than willing to speak to her. As for the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity, it confirmed that it did not host any registered social event the weekend of Sept. 28, 2012.
The story of a gang rape at the fraternity captivated the nation but soon began to fall apart as students came forward challenging the account of Erdely and the alleged victims called only “Jackie.” The Post has been in the lead on the story uncovering the shoddy journalistic practices, including an agreement with Jackie not to interview her alleged rapist.
The Post appears to have done all of the field interviews that Erdely did not and reinterviewed others. These include the three students — “Randall,” “Andy” and “Cindy” — who Jackie called to her side after the alleged rape. They all three say that the Rolling Stone’s account differed from their own accounts, even though this meeting was key to the article. The students say that Jackie had no visible blood or injuries. They encouraged her to call the police but she refused. The students were painted in the story as indifferent and uncaring to Jackie’s account, even though they say that they not only encouraged her to go to police but stayed with her during the night.
They, however, noted a myriad of discrepancies in her story and said that they were suspicious that night that the rape never occurred. They said the name she provided as that of her date did not match anyone at the university. Indeed University of Virginia officials confirmed to The Post that no one by that name has attended the school.
Even more curious were the photographs that were texted to one of Jackie’s friends showing her date that night. The pictures were actually of one of Jackie’s high school classmates in Northern Virginia. The Post located that man who is now a junior at a university in another state and he confirmed that the photographs were of him and said “he barely knew Jackie and hasn’t been to Charlottesville for at least six years.”
Here is the amazing thing. “The friends said they were never contacted or interviewed by the pop culture magazine’s reporters or editors.”
Moreover, the article states that “information Jackie gave the three friends about one of her attackers, called ‘Drew’ in the magazine’s article, differ significantly from details she later told The Post, Rolling Stone and friends from sexual assault awareness groups on campus.”
According to Erdely, “Randall” refused to speak with her “citing his loyalty to his own frat.” However, Randall not only spoke to the Post but insisted “that he was never contacted by Rolling Stone and would have agreed to an interview.”
Jackie spoke of Drew, but he could not be located by her friends on campus and the picture was of a high school friend. The school investigated the name and identity and found no one who matched the description at the school. Randall showed the Post the emails forwarded to him from Jackie’s date and the Post showed them to the actual man in the picture. The Post confirmed that “his name does not match the one Jackie gave friends in 2012 and that this former high school student “never really spoke to her,” was never a University of Virginia student and has not even been in Charlottesville for over six years.
The Post also interviewed some of Jackie’s new friends who said that Jackie revealed a name of her main alleged attacker to them more recently. “That name was different from the name she gave Andy, Cindy and Randall that first night. All three said that they had never heard the second name before learning it from a reporter.”
So the Post investigated the second named man and found someone with a similar name. He was a lifeguard at the time of the attacks. However, he insisted that he had never met her in person and never taken her out on a date. He also said that he was not a member of Phi Kappa Psi.
The silence of Erdely amidst this storm is surprising for a journalist. She was interviewed before the controversy and said that she has a “finely tuned B.S. detector” that helps her get a story right.
The contrast however in the level of detail and confirmation between the Rolling Stone and the Washington Post articles could not be more striking.
There also remains potential for liability here for the magazine, for Erdely, and for “Jackie.” As shown by the Post, the article (and later new name offered by Jackie) led to the suspicion of at least two men. One was actually shown in photographs as the freshman who alleged led Jackie to a gang rape. That could constitute defamation as well as false light. As actionable claims, the magazine, author, and alleged victim could find themselves in discovery and forced to answer many of these questions. While these men are not public figures, they would still be able to show, in my view, “reckless disregard” on the part of the magazine and Erdely if the Post account is accurate, particularly in agreeing not to interview the alleged rapist and falsely reporting that key figures would not speak to the magazine.
Source: Washington Post
Every major leftist story inviting outrage is fake until proven otherwise.
To all of those on this forum who chastised those of us who refuse to be come veklempt, outraged, and have no compassion or empathy, I suggest you remember this rule and remember what fools you have made of yourselves. (although I doubt you have the capacity for such introspection).
The media and politicians and the race hustlers and now the feminazis all put out false narratives and then do their best to gin up outrage, resulting in ruined lives, death and destruction. AND you fall for it…….every time.
Instead of accepting reality, we get the excuse of …”Well. Maybe that particular thing didn’t actually happen, but SOMETHING must have happened. So you bitterly cling to the fake but accurate meme.
Meanwhile, the rest of us who have a few more neurons to rub together are skeptical and wait to see what the truth is.
You should be ashamed, but I doubt you have the capacity for that either.
Have exams been rescheduled yet?
@Michael Haz
“The University of Virginia needs to step up here and offer male students reparations for the harm that has been done to them by a hate-filled administration and faculty.”
LMAO! 😀
Here is Sabrina Rubin Erdely in a MSNBC interview actually claiming that ‘Jackie’ went to UVA campus administration, not once but twice in a year and that two other women were also raped on campus, and UVA supposedly gave them do nothing options. She claims there was no investigation and UVA supposedly felt there was no reason to warn others about that fraternity. Also that these women to police and were turned away. This interview was before the inconsistencies came out. Where is Erdley now? Hiding under her BS detector?
http://youtu.be/T3AHEVV0yHM
Msjettexas – thanks for the video. Nice to see the rush to judgment by people who had never been in the Greek system. Now that the wheels are falling off the bus, it would be nice if they walked it back, but that is too much to ask.
Haz and Chip hit it outta da park.
Back-to-back homers.
The University of Virginia needs to step up here and offer male students reparations for the harm that has been done to them by a hate-filled administration and faculty.
A good beginning will be to make one of their better campuses male-only. This would create a safe environment where men can study and learn, away from the oppressive threats of weaponized feminism.
Erdely should’ve used a pen name.
“Raoul Duke” is the one that comes to mind.
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The lyrics by Bob Dylan have some resonance here when one refers to a phony and to a rolling stone:
Play Music
“Like A Rolling Stone”
Once upon a time you dressed so fine
You threw the bums a dime in your prime, didn’t you ?
People’d call, say, “Beware doll, you’re bound to fall”
You thought they were all kiddin’ you
You used to laugh about
Everybody that was hangin’ out
Now you don’t talk so loud
Now you don’t seem so proud
About having to be scrounging for your next meal.
How does it feel
How does it feel
To be without a home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone ?
You’ve gone to the finest school all right, Miss Lonely
But you know you only used to get juiced in it
And nobody has ever taught you how to live on the street
And now you find out you’re gonna have to get used to it
You said you’d never compromise
With the mystery tramp, but know you realize
He’s not selling any alibis
As you stare into the vacuum of his eyes
And say do you want to make a deal?
How does it feel
How does it feel
To be on your own
With no direction home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone ?
You never turned around to see the frowns on the jugglers and the clowns
When they all come down and did tricks for you
You never understood that it ain’t no good
You shouldn’t let other people get your kicks for you
You used to ride on the chrome horse with your diplomat
Who carried on his shoulder a Siamese cat
Ain’t it hard when you discover that
He really wasn’t where it’s at
After he took from you everything he could steal.
How does it feel
How does it feel
To be on your own
With no direction home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone ?
Princess on the steeple and all the pretty people
They’re drinkin’, thinkin’ that they got it made
Exchanging all precious gifts
But you’d better take your diamond ring, you’d better pawn it babe
You used to be so amused
At Napoleon in rags and the language that he used
Go to him now, he calls you, you can’t refuse
When you got nothing, you got nothing to lose
You’re invisible now, you got no secrets to conceal.
How does it feel
How does it feel
To be on your own
With no direction home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone ?
And Word Press and managers: please don’t moderate my comment here or the lyrics. They passed the litmus test years ago.
In an act of journalistic humor, the Post, in its upstanding fashion, should show Mug Shots of all the perps at the Rolling Stone and also a Mug Shot of the defaming accuser. Newspapers across America have rallied around The Mug Shot Page in order to gather more subscribers. It is not always part of All The News That’s Fit To Print (NY Times slog). The Washington Post is my favorite newspaper. I have never read the Rolling Stone. I don’t like Brits and I don’t like Americans who try to cash in on Brit imagery.
Mendacious turtles all the way down.
Matthew Shepard.
Tawana Brawley.
Benghazi anti-Islam video
Sarah Palin’s uterus
Palestinian staged attack videos
TEA party spitting on black Congressmen
Abu Ghraib = Bush torture
Stephen Glass’s articles
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion
I, Rigoberta Menchú
Jayson Blair’s plagiarized and fabricated articles for the New York Times
Climate change/Global warming
The Oberlin College Racism Hoax of 2013
The fake hate crimes database
Electro Magnetic Force from household wiring causing Childhood Leukemia
Michael Brown ‘hands up’
Noose found on Columbia professor’s door
Black students admitted they hung black doll in effigy at Duke 1997
Liberal Claremont professor spray paints her own car with sexist and racist messages 1999
Ole Miss racist graffiti written by black students 2003
Black family spray paints “white power” on their home 2006
Etc, etc. See also
Feminism has mutated from being a legitimate fight for equality to a a cult that attracts psychos and liars.
This trend discredits feminism’s legitimate supporters and its worthwhile aims.
It is these supporters who should be the most vigilant defending feminism’s integrity instead of being the shrill attackers of every truth seeker.
In the last week the leftists, Rolling Stone and Lena Dunham, have done tremendous damage to those women who are actual victims of rape. One might think that after the Duke case that our Betters would show a high degree of caution in moving forward. Apparently not…
Narrative first, everything else is secondary.
Paul:
Jackie’s identity has been published. Also published is a photo of Jackie at a Slutwalk event several months before the rape she alleges happened. Jackie is carrying a large sign that tells the story of her being raped….before the date she alleges. Here is a link to the photo. I don’t know how to post the photo here.
http://gotnews.com/breaking-fraud-jackiecoakley-cried-rape-uvahoax/
Jackie’s three different descriptions of her alleged attacker, courtesy of Ashe Schow:
Original Rolling Stone article: A Phi Kappa Psi fraternity member who worked with Jackie at the campus pool.
Washington Post Dec. 5th: Jackie said she didn’t know if her attacker was a member of Phi Psi, and the name she gave to her campus advocacy group friends didn’t match her original description. The man worked at the campus pool, but was not a member of Phi Psi, and had never met Jackie or taken her on a date.
Washington Post, Dec. 10th: Jackie told friends before she went out that her date was a man from her chemistry class, but the name that she gave (which was different than the name given to her advocate friends) did not match any student at U.Va. Further, photos texted to her friends of her supposed date were actually one of Jackie’s high school classmates who said he barely knew her, and hadn’t been to Charlottesville, VA in six years – and he was in another state at an athletic event at the time the rape would have occurred, according to Jackie’s account. Also, he is a student at a different university.
I again posit this rule: Every major leftist story inviting outrage is fake until proven otherwise.
This rule of thumb has been correct over and over again in the past 50 years.
Only with the advent of the internet have they been revealed as false, and historical outrages also shown as lies.
It is simply best to assume their stories are mostly false or entirely lies.
They need new Goldsteins every week or two to keep the base hating Eurasia, and remain unaware of their declining fortunes and liberty under leftism.
Michael Haz – I am beginning to think that ‘Jackie’ is lying about being vaginally raped. Her first story about being orally raped may be true, but the whole fraternity thing is hogwash.
Some troll has threatened to ‘dox’ Jackie if she doesn’t tell the truth by Friday. He supposedly has tracked down all her real info and will go public.
Rolling Stone and Sabrina weren’t about to let fact checking or the truth get in the way of the story they wanted to tell. And they found Jackie who by all accounts was more than happy to make up their cover story.
Rolling Stone, and the rape advocates who still believe, are now pushing the principle behind the story. And they don’t realize how their zeal has set back pursuing actual rapes by 10 years. Time to own it social justice warriors. And time to let people who believe in actual justice take over. Get colleges out off rape investigations. Go to the police. Period. Every instance.
Jackie lied about having been raped. Erdely lied about Jackie’s story in Erdely’s piece published by Rolling Stone.
Several young men faced having their lives ruined, and possibly being tried, convicted and imprisoned because of Jackie’s and Erdely’s lies.
Jackie should face criminal charges. Erdely and her publisher should be sued for every penny they have.
Yes, rape is a bad thing. And lying about it to advance a feminist narrative is even worse.