For conservatives, it must sound like “better red than dead” all over again. A new study in the Journal of Epidemiology & Community Health suggests that liberals live longer than conservatives in the United States. The researchers looked at more than 32,000 adults and tracked them over 15 years. The result was surprising: conservatives seemed to be expiring faster than their counterparts on the left. However, conservatives claimed to be happier than their counterparts in life.
It has been reported that Hillary Clinton has been working on a new campaign theme. Perhaps they should consider a “Vote Hillary Or Die” campaign.
Roman Pabayo, a community health researcher at the University of Nevada said that the group relied on more concrete data like actual death records than did prior studies. They also eliminated other factors by comparing conservatives and liberals of similar age, sex, and socioeconomic status. Notably, when divided simply between parties, Democratic and Republican party members died at the same rate, but when compared on ideological grounds, conservatives bit the dust first on average.
Subu V. Subramanian, a professor of population health and geography at Harvard was critical of the findings. His study relied on self-reporting and found that Republicans reported better health and they were 15% less likely to smoke. He also found that Republicans and conservatives were benefitted by being more religious and “more tied into social networks and organizations.”
It may still be too early for some conservatives to embrace wage equity and global warming. The difference in death rates is described by Subramanian as “slight” in the new study.
Source: USA Today
Elaine M.
From BloombergBusiness:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-09-19/blame-fdr-and-lbj-for-moocher-paradox-in-red-states
Excerpt:
Sept. 20 (Bloomberg) — No sooner did Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney revive the Moocher Myth than his critics jumped in with evidence to challenge it.
The Moocher Myth is this: People who vote Republican are successful, responsible strivers who pay taxes and keep the U.S. government afloat, while people who vote for Democrats are irresponsible moochers living off government programs. In Romney’s phrase, they are the 47 percent “who are dependent on government, who believe they are victims.” Reporter Mike Barnicle was criticized for saying something similar after the 2000 presidential election, claiming that the blue states on the map that voted for Al Gore were the “sense of entitlement” states.
But research then and now has pointed out that the states that got the most per capita in federal dollars were more likely to vote for Republicans.
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Rural states with small populations will show higher per capita spending.
And the answer is . . . silence, peppered with a couple of personal comments.
I wouldn’t use the word “Moocher”, but it is statistically proven that those who receive Welfare vote Democrat. Obviously, wouldn’t they vote for the party that promises more “free stuff” without explaining how it gets paid for? The party that always taxes the rich? The word “moocher” is derogatory, but the facts are the facts. People on Welfare tend to vote Democrat. Like it. Don’t like it. There it is.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/07/12/the-politics-and-demographics-of-food-stamp-recipients/
Okay Elaine – so which is the moocher. Democrats or Republicans?
I am confused. I mean someone who uses "The Daily Show" as a source should be able to help me out here. I do so have the utmost respect for you.
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Funny, I didn’t see much of that. I saw people who mostly defended themselves when attacked.
Inga-Cry like babies? Please. I’m fairly new to commenting on the blog(feel free to call me a lurker) but it is fairly obvious that this blog used to be infested with liberal commenters who were always happy to belittle, insult, demean, and bully people that disagreed with them. And you know what happened when more than one or two people challenged them? They took their ball and went home….crying that they had been belittled, insulted, demeaned and bullied. All the things they used to gleefully do to others. The lack of self-awareness (and the hypocrisy) is stunning.
Only until Isaac makes someone mad, then it will be “You’re dead to me!” LOL! Hmmm, how many former ‘buddies’ have heard that little tune now? Oy, too funny.
And, it is nice to have adult conversations, Isaac.
The Habs are IMO the greatest hockey franchise, although the last 3 or so decades would not be evidence of that. I know Hockey Night in Canada is special. The only thing comparable was Friday Night Fights and to a lesser degree Monday Night Football. NBC had the MLB Game of the Week every Saturday afternoon, but that was not like the aforementioned sports. You’re probably too young to remember the Friday Night Fights. That was the 50’s60’s when boxing was HUGE in the US. I watched them every Friday w/ my old man and often my Uncle Nick, who was a very good pro boxer, fighting in the Willie Pep entourage. I watched the fight that changed boxing and ended the Friday Night Fights. In 1962 Emile Griffith pummeled Benny “Kid” Paret, killing him in the ring. I remember it distinctly. I remember my Uncle Nick, a quiet man, screaming @ the TV, “STOP THE FIGHT, STOP THE FIGHT.” It was referee malpractice. Decades later I saw a good HBO documentary, Ring of Fire. I learned Emile Griffith was probably gay and loved to go to gay bars in NYC, particularly bars w/ transvestites and transvestite acts. Benny Paret was an up and coming Cuban, Griffith an established welterweight champ. At the weigh in for the fight, Paret grabbed Griffith’s ass and called him, “Maricon.” It enraged Griffith. So, that was the back drop, and something I never learned until almost 50 years later.
Good lord. How is it not disparagment when they do it to an outstanding liberal commenter and former weekend blogger, such as Elaine, who displays more decency, intelligence and kindness that almost any commenter here on RIL. That the best commenters no longer comment here regularity or not at all speaks to the double standard for decency that has proliferated here under the tutelage of the school yard bully. And when they get some of their own medicine they cry like babies who lost their teat.
Nick
I read you on the Quebecer attitude. There are three types, the intellectual city dweller. I went with a young student once for three years. She was normal, and spoke French without the Joual roughness. Her family consisted of fiercely proud French Canadians who were all professional and some up there. Then there are les vrais Habitants or rural people who are in a very small minority. These people are just like backwoods people everywhere. Then there are the pseudo rural separatists. They feel that by going to the cities they will lose their identity. At least that was my take on it decades ago. It may have changed.
I don’t agree on Chretien. He was one of the most capable Prime Ministers ever. Before he became Prime Minister he held almost every major cabinet post. He knew how to govern.
As far as the Montreal Canadians, that is a result of being brought up on ‘Hockey Night in Canada’ every Saturday night.
Isaac is our go to Canadian. A beautiful country and good people, even if some of them are Commies.
ChipS, You were disparaged earlier by a middle school miscreant. That you missed it shows you are ignoring the infantile comments, which I always encourage. No biggy, but I do have a huge man crush on you and like to express it w/o any constraints.. NTTAWWT.
Going out on a limb here; but I respect Issac and Elaine M. even when we disagree…which is a lot. They both are capable of explaining their positions. Agreeing with me is not a requirement for discussion. I look forward to ideas not of my own design. As for the staccato drive by tools, not so much….vis a vis “thoroughly infected” or “echo chamber” stuff…when this blog is generally none of those things. I’d naively presume that is obvious. And, yes, I think Chip S is among the best of the commenters here. For the same reasons, succinct and germane remarks without a lot of blather or snark. Elaine M and Issac are not near as succinct however (nor am I), their comments merit reading carefully. We all need to be careful because we might learn something, or change our minds a bit…clinging to a mantra of *they bad, we good*, is simply silliness. It is to abandon what teaches. The day comes when there are no Issac’s or Elaine’s here, I will be gone. Maybe not an unwelcome outcome for some, but one I’d be sad about none-the-less.
I’ve lived a life around the world and in a way this blog is another means to expand my vision of those nearest to me otherwise. Finding different people with different opinions is not that different from finding people very unlike one’s self…IF you listen. This concept has saved my life at times, so I am very unlikely to abandon it. I will never forget the conversation I had with a ROK Marine about our differences culturally (one I have cited before)…one who presumes the right to kill and debates the means, versus one who debates the issue of killing first, then gives little shrift to the means. That kid was right and I’ve never forgotten it…I learned something from a young man (by then I was 29 so a 20 year old was young to me) who had no reason to debate me, just talk to me…and I listened. Good idea since we shared defense of each other. I’ve never regretted doing so…then or now, wherever or here.
Karen
Hutterites are something like the Amish but more dispersed. They have a teacher come to them to satisfy the provincial education requirements. They raise cattle, wheat, etc., use horses and generally live off of the land and make a profit. The kids, sometimes leave but the mechanic we talked to said they almost all come back. When a colony gets to a certain size about three quarters of them go to another site, that they have purchased and build whatever they need to start and then leave about a third of the original colony there. A colony in Alberta might split to make another in Saskatchewan. And so it goes.
We used to see them in town with their distinctive clothing and toss around the usual stories about being able to make money procreating with the women because of the fear of incest. Good stories for young studs like we were, late teens, early twenties. Whether or not it’s true or not, I don’t know, never got up the nerve to ask.
The few weeks we were on their colony it was like being in another time. If people don’t get all revved up with civilization as we know it and if you can put up with thanking god all the time for this and that, it might be kind of nice. Lots of people tried it in the sixties and seventies in communes without the religion, didn’t always work out.
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@Nick re your 3:19 comment:
I appreciate your kind words, tho I think there are lots of commenters out there better than myself.
Mostly I’m puzzled by why you said anything. Has someone been trash talking me here?
on 1, February 3, 2015 at 12:23 pmChip S.
I respect Elaine for her candid admission that she rejects serious analysis in writing her comments.
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on 1, February 3, 2015 at 12:41 pmChip S.
Something that’s clearly not your specialty is reading comprehension. You yourself posted this quote (however clumsily formatted):
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Civilly? LOL! Wow Chip started out insulting Elaine twice before attempting to engage her in a discussion. In what universe do you people live in?
I will take the silence on the facts presented as an inability to address them.
Exactly, Karen. You, I and Chip and some others have, in civility, presented counter points, as you would in a debate, to clarify the blanket statement that red states receive more Federal funds than they pay in….PER CAPITA.
These are legitimate points, not argumentative attacks……. and if Elaine or others have a desire to have an actual dialogue and refute those points, it would benefit the entire comment section. Instead of drive by bombing in the comment section a real back and forth discussion would be a good thing.
It’s not worth wasting the time and energy addressing them or engaging in serious discussion here. Elaine, I find it much more rewarding to just comment, express one’s opinion and then ignore most of them.
I will take the silence on the facts presented as an inability to address them.
This may be a helpful reference in future if anyone wishes to address the red state/blue state federal spending question.
Now, if we could only rein in politicians’ thirst for adding pork to bills in order to buy votes, and being in the pockets of special interests like the unions, then we could see some real change in government.
Elaine,
Paul, Nick, Paul, Nick, Paul, Nick,lol! What’s the difference? They may be two different people but they also may be brothers by another mother. Who knows?