Thin Blue Line: Three Arrested For Allegedly Creating False Police Organization With Ties To The Templar Knights

picpart2There is an interesting case developing in California where police have arrested three people, including Brandon Kiel, 31 (left), an aide to California Attorney General (and Senate candidate) Kamala Harris. Kiel and Tonette Hayes, 56, and David Henry, 46, were arrested for allegedly operating an illegitimate “police department” that traces its origins to the Knights Templar. They claimed to be running a 3000 year old police organization founded by the Templar Knights with jurisdiction in 33 states and Mexico.

Kiel has been working as deputy director of community affairs at the California Department of Justice and is now on administrative leave.

Various police chiefs apparently raised concerns after receiving a letter announcing the new leadership of the group. Later a man identifying himself as Kiel (claiming to be the “chief deputy director”) called to arrange meetings with different departments. In one such meeting, a command officer said that Henry and Hayes showed up in black jumpsuits wearing police patchers with their names on the uniform along with stars indicating that they were high-ranking officers. Hayes was carrying a handgun and wearing a utility belt. The officer said that the three told him that they were opening a new Canyon Country police station. Kiel reportedly gave him an business care from the Department of Justice.

75px-Cross_Templar.svg220px-HattinThe website for the group traced their origins to the Knights Templar in 1100 – a curious choice since the Knights Templar were ultimately declared outlaws and hunted down. After emerging during the Crusades, the Order continued to grow, including in areas like banking. The power of the order and its secrecy (and possibly the debt owed to it) led to order of a roundup by King Philip IV of France on the infamous Friday the 13th on October 13, 1307 . Many were tortured brutally, including Templar Grand Master Jacques de Molay who was ultimately burned at the stake. The order was disbanded in 1312.

Yet, it appears to be flourishing in California according to the site which explains “When asked what is the difference between the Masonic Fraternal Police Department and other Police Departments the answer is simple for us. We were here first!”

The case would remain somewhat problematic in claiming that the creation of such an organization is the same as impersonating police officers except for the appearance of Hayes and Henry. However, police say that they executed as search warrant and found badges, weapons, uniforms and law enforcement paraphernalia. Once again, however, there remains that question of whether some of this material is available to the public and whether the accused truly held themselves out as officers. They are accused of impersonating an officer. Henry is also accused of perjury while Kiel is accused of misusing his government identification. It is not clear if any money exchanged hands — creating a case for fraud.

The last two charges may be easier to prove. However, any trial would be made all the more difficult by the fact that most of the witnesses would be officers in uniform. These faux Knight Templars will fare better than the likes of Templar Grand Master Jacques de Molay.

49 thoughts on “Thin Blue Line: Three Arrested For Allegedly Creating False Police Organization With Ties To The Templar Knights”

  1. Close enough for me. I guess you’re fine w/ it. He’s filthy slime just like Polanski in my book.

  2. I never thought of this until just now. Albert Brooks real name is Albert Einstein. I wonder if he chose Brooks as an homage to Mel?

  3. Indeed. I like Woody Allen up to and including Annie Hall and of course before he started f@cking his adopted daughter. Brooks, Keaton and the great Laurel and Hardy, of course.

  4. dryack, I have thoroughly enjoyed our exchange. I hope they continue on other topics as well. I like neurotic. Albert Brooks is one of my favorite filmmakers.

    1. If you like Albert Brooks you have to like early Woody Allen, when he was in his funny phase. 😉 And Mel Brooks. Buster Keaton. Laurel and Hardy.

  5. Nick,

    I think our difference is that you appear willing to accept as valid, the police’s commonly held frame of reference with regard to the severity of and approach to dealing with criminality? Unless you were being entirely hyperbolic in your original comment (in which case I’ve finally found someone who out hyperbole’s me after years of looking).

    I don’t feel especially warm toward anyone who works for the state, but I recognize their humanity exists outside that sphere.and is worthy of my respect. That said, I strongly believe use-of-force policy, training, and practice by law enforcement today is entirely inappropriate for a free society – and for those who wish to be called heroes.

    I’m an atheist myself, but take as gracious someone’s offer of prayers – thank you. I still frankly doubt whatever I am going through comes to the level of PTSD – I’m probably just weak and neurotic.

  6. You’d think they would actually learn about the order they were impersonating! 3,000 years???

    Max – the bunny scene and the “It’s Only a Flesh Wound” battle were my favorites. Love Monty Python!

  7. 1100 BC? Clearly guilty of bad proofreading.

    Lock ’em up, throw away the key.


  8. “This recent piling on of an entire police department

    Given the Obama administration call to federalize the police, I smell a rat.

  9. Dust Bunny Queen, taken as individuals I’m quite comfortable in the knowledge that their are good and bad police officers However how can we trust “entire departments” when it’s clear that police discourage each other from revealing individual and institutional bad actors – and in fact often retaliate brutally against those who *do* speak out? And seriously, how anyone concerned with liberty and/or accountability can be comfortable with Police unions and Police Bills of Rights just baffles me.

    To the flip side, one of the things I’m constantly arguing about with the (mostly) progressive/hard-left around me, is that little of this is about race – it’s about state power, coercion, and what sort of use-of-force we want from our police in our society. The number of whites shot dead by police greatly exceeds the number of blacks. Do those lives not matter? The number of blacks shot dead by blacks exceeds the number shot by police. Do those black lives not matter? The sort of talk I hear from people in the Bay often reflexively causes me to want to defend police, if only because the ignorance of people about violence, safety, policing, and ethics in use-of-force is so staggering.

    With police and prosecutors almost never being held accountable for – well… almost anything we hear about – I think it’s understandable for people to be furious. And with the ease they can craft the narrative to protect themselves – something that is just now beginning to change thanks to ease with which we can record them; how can we not suspect their institutions? The number of occasions in the past 10 years where police clearly lied in their official reports, and we know it because the video showed beyond a doubt that they were lying, ought to give us pause. For many of these cases, multiple officers and supervisors were fully aware of the lie. They did not speak out. They did not intervene. For an armed group with special legally defined powers over the rest of us – this is a significant problem that must be addressed.

    I see the key to any improvements being an honest discussion of what we want from policing in our society – and to ensure that police are not stuck enforcing laws that immediately put them into conflict with huge portions of what is supposed to be a free people.

  10. Dryack, thanks for the reasonable comments, good to see good guys in your profession.

  11. But everyone around me calls the Bay “Northern California” so I’ve fallen into the habit as well!

    It’s ok. 🙂 Just a pet peeve of mine about the No Calif thingy. As if when you are north of the Bay area….you don’t really count or don’t exist.

    I don’t think that anyone here has lionized the police or claimed that they are all heroes. The push back is from those who want to go the opposite tack and tar all police or an entire department for the bad actions of a few.

    The truth, as always, lies in the middle. There are some very good and yes even heroic police. There are some few really really bad apples as well. The majority are just trying to do the best that they can in a sometimes bad situation and in a sometimes horrific.

    This recent piling on of an entire police department is creating more animosity between the public and the police. Pushing people into opposite camps and creating enemy factions. Nothing good will be coming from this.

    Should the police, police themselves better. Of course. Isaac had some good suggestions. The public should take a better or more hands on part in this as well. Perhaps some non political, non partisan oversight from a public group, similar to a grand jury in a way. Work together, not against each other.

  12. @ issac

    Up until you decided to get political and all (at which point I stop reading you)….I agree with everything you said.

    In the end cops need to be better trained, higher paid, and more carefully selected. Also, they need to be monitored throughout their career with continuing education and training as well as personal weight

    Police should have training or degrees in criminal justice…..not just a blanket generic 4 year degree in Feminist studies or some other totally made up junk degree. Continuing education, as it was demanded in my occupation, is a very good idea.

    With experience in the real world and with age comes more wisdom ,and hopefully, better emotional control. It used to be, when you and I were young 🙂 … the age of 19 you were an adult, probably had been working for several years, likely even married and with children. Today at the age of 19, many of our youth have been so coddled and protected that they are not ready to take on the responsibilities of adulthood, much less be a police officer.

    Careful selection, screening, psychological profiling, if you will, should also be paramount.

    Instead of agitating for a nationalized police force, which would be a terrible terrible idea, we should insist that these rules (as I quoted you) should be instituted AND have some outside monitoring by an impartial agency or group to make sure that they are being adhered to.

    Leave it to the local population to determine what level of policing their communities need.

    One other thing …..I would recommend that there be more beat cops, face to face interaction with the general public (not criminals but the ordinary citizen) where the cops get to know their ‘people’ and the people get to know their cops. When you know someone, on a more personal level, you are less likely to otherize them.

  13. Nick, I know your record which is why I was at pains to be respectful – I was reading your thoughts for years before I ever commented here. (And you were extremely welcoming to me on my first comment for that matter.) =)

    Every stop I made had me on edge as well. To the point where, after years of doing the work, I struggle to enjoy a social life or leave the house other than for work – and the few friends I have left accuse me of having PTSD – although I think they’re nuts. But that’s what I signed up for – stupid me for having no coping mechanism or support structure in place?

    Again, respectfully, I disagree with you. Although they certainly have a more dangerous job than the “average” american – it’s less dangerous than in the past, although like you I expect this to be an ugly summer in many areas. I see no reason to hold police to such low standards as to permit them to behave in the ways we so often see. Most of the police I’ve known on a personal level took the job for the money, the action, and their ego.

    That’s not to say they didn’t at all consider doing something good for their society – I’m sure that was there somewhere. But even so, “the protection of others” has been a pretty popular rallying cry of tyrants throughout history? The lionization of police terrifies me, I see it show up in the comments everywhere I go. They’re all heroes – they deserve endless accolades, money, benefits, protections.. Stuff. I don’t buy it. And while I’m merely a libertarian and not a full on anarchist, I don’t buy their argument that they are *all* that stands between me and the barbarian hordes. Hell, every time in my life I’ve needed a police desperately – they’ve only been there to piece together the aftermath.

    Having a tough job is not an excuse for torture, for murder, for lower standards. for trampling the rule of law, or fundamentally transforming the nature of our country. Meh I meant to give you a more substantive reply but got sidetracked by work things and now my mind is on coding issues, sorry.

    @Dust Bunny Queen

    Yeah, I realize that actually. I’ve done investigations in Paradise, Clearlake, Yreka, and Redding. (All beautiful in their own way!) But everyone around me calls the Bay “Northern California” so I’ve fallen into the habit as well!

  14. Nick and DBQ

    Under certain circumstances a 19 yr old might make a good cop and a college graduate might be a failure at it. However, the position of a police officer in society would be better served by someone who has been out in the ‘real world’ for a few years, perhaps ten and has, in this day and age, a better than high school education. There are always exceptions but the best cops I have met have degrees in criminal justice, an early desire to be a police officer, and are stable and focused. The worst are those who simply needed a job and perhaps needed to feel important.

    In the end cops need to be better trained, higher paid, and more carefully selected. Also, they need to be monitored throughout their career with continuing education and training as well as personal weight. A cop who has had his or her fill of a certain environment of abuse and disrespect, perhaps is not doing so well in their personal lives, and feels used by the administration is more likely to blow up at a routine traffic stop. The police force is not the postal department where one clocks in, does eight hours, and then goes home to play with a train set in the spare bedroom.

    It is obvious, regardless of whether or not one believes it is all Obama’s fault and will only get worse with Hillary, or not, that certain facets of our society need to be scrutinized more closely. This recent police business could be a result of the proliferation of cameras or the dysfunctional autonomy of all America’s little fiefdoms, or both.

    Nah, you’re right Nick, it’s all Obama’s fault.

  15. @ dryack

    Sorry. You are not in Northern California. Central California, yes. Take a look at a map, there are hundreds of miles of the State above you. It takes me 6 HOURS to drive from MY Northern California location to Oakland. (Which I wouldn’t do anyway, having lived in that area in the past I avoid it like the plague)

    Sorry… peeve 🙂

  16. drayack, I am on record numerous times deploring the War on Drugs. You also miss my point. I am also on record as hating the militarization of police. But, while police are not dealing w/ IED’s yet[ISIS may change that], and yes I am a bit hyperbolic calling inner cities war theatres, the analogy is still good. Every car stop, every street stop, has a cop on edge in the inner city. That takes its toll. And, I fear this summer will be a long, hot one w/ the war analogy being spot on. All that said, ending this insane war on drugs is important. The irony being police, prosecutors, prisons, lobby against ending the war. It means govt. jobs.

  17. It is painfully obvious to me the vast majority of people commenting here are lily white, live in safe neighborhoods, and never wander near inner cities. They have no idea what it’s like. We need to deal w/ the climate we expect big city cops to work in daily. We need to have deployment policies like the military.

    I couldn’t agree more.

    With the exception that not all police forces should be the same. Depending on the area where you live, the demographics and the crimes, the police should be composed of people who can respond accordingly.

    I live in a rural area where the most crimes that are committed are theft and some drug crimes by repeat offenders who are put back into the community by catch and release. programs due to not enough space in the jails to house them. And convicts being dumped from other areas into ours. Domestic abuse and drunken families fighting probably the next biggest events. Barking dogs….small stuff. There has not been a murder or even a shooting in this area in years.

    We don’t need (or want) a Rambo, a militarized police or urban assault vehicles. Frankly, 90% of the population is prepared and can take care of the little stuff themselves. It takes at least 45 minutes to 2 hours for a response to a call, because the area is so big and sparsely populated. We have to be self sufficient.

    Detroit, however…..different story. They need Rambo! As Spinelli said: It is a war zone.

    This is what is wrong with the idea of a nationalized police force. Not all areas are the same and the local people can decide what type of police force and what type of policing activities they need.

  18. Nick are you truly suggesting that vast portions of what is supposed to be a free society ought to be under constant military occupation? Maybe it’d be better to ease off our failed policies of Wars on and see if the degree of criminality you’re alluding to still exists?

    For what it’s worth I’ve lived and worked in most of the ‘worst’ cities in Northern California for the past 15 years; mostly doing hands on Loss Prevention where we were lucky to be permitted to carry handcuffs. In that capacity I’ve dealt with almost every law enforcement agency active in the region. I count a number of officers as personal friends.

    I hear the gunshots at home at night, scour the paper for the details in the morning. It’s not always pleasant, but this is no war zone. The worst parts of Oakland and Richmond are not war zones. The police and citizens are not being sniped at regularly, buildings are not bombed out, organized units of men are not stalking the streets and carrying out professional ambush tactics. Although police militarization is a problem in my opinion, we are not yet calling in airstrikes on our neighborhoods. SWAT and similar units continue to be used primarily for warrant service of doubtful risk. The crime we are dealing with is not an existential threat to the nation.

    If the only way to hold this country together is to resort to such an approach, I’d rather see us disappear into the annals of history. Respectfully, I disagree with both your premise, and your conclusion.

  19. Cops should be required to have a four-year college degree.

    A degree in what? Ceramics? English literature? Chemistry? Social justice warrior types of degrees? There are all sorts of useless degrees that people are getting now that have prepared them for a position at MickyD’s at best.

    This is basically a stupid idea from someone who probably hasn’t been exposed to the real world outside of the blue enclaves that surround academia.

    As to the stress management abilities of college educated; haven’t you noticed that the delicate snowflakes in college now need to have safe rooms and playdoh in case they are exposed to icky ideas that disagree with their widdle feelers? They are going to crumble the instant they have to interact with someone from flyover country much less deal with the thugs who infest the inner cities.

    Civility? Give me a break. The students and professors now go on a literal physical rampage when they are confronted with any ideas or pictures that are against their lock step mind set. Attacking peaceful displays and attacking event the people who are protesting.

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