MSNBC weekend host Melissa Harris-Perry has drawn fire after objecting to a seemingly innocuous reference by a guest to Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wisc) as a “hard worker.” Harris-Perry suggested that the use of this term for someone like Ryan is insulting to people who once picked cotton or mothers without health care.
Harris-Perry offered her correction with the guest Alfonso Aguilar, Executive Director of the American Principles Project’s Latino Partnership, after Aguilar said If there’s somebody who is a hard worker when he goes to Washington, it’s Paul Ryan.”
Harris-Perry warned “[I] want us to be super careful when we use the language ‘hard worker’ . . . Because I actually keep an image of folks working in cotton fields on my office wall, because it is a reminder about what hard work looks like.” She then continued by noting that “in the context of relative privilege, I just want to point out, that when you talk about work-life balance and being a hard worker, the moms who don’t have health care who are working, we don’t call them hard workers. We call them failures, people who are sucking off the system. Really, y’all do! That’s really what you do!”
Aguilar objected to the point and said “This is very unfair. I feel that we cannot generalize about the Republican Party.”
I am not clear about how many people actually call working mothers “failures” but it is not clear why we cannot recognize hard-working people in different facets of life, including Republican leaders.
Wow! I’m killing babies!? Holy mackerel, that can’t be right. I enjoy making them too much.
Seriously, why not just accuse me of being on the grassy knoll.
Schulte: I never said you commented on Rick’s grammar, now did I?
You pointed out the same error I made in another thread. Entirely correctly, I might point out. I’ve also seen where you’ve made errors in grammar. No doubt, you’ll label that as an ad hominem attack.
I’m guilty of not proof reading my comments often enough, nothing more. The fact that you and Rick have tried to make an issue out of it reflects the superficial nature of your querulousness.
Nitpicking is a character flaw.
Hall –
As Inga would say, and I paraphase, you are trying to pick a fight. However, I will state again. Your last sentence is an ad hominem attack.
Rick, what do you think of Jim accusing THall of killing babies?! I would love to hear your reasoned opinion.
Annie
1, October 28, 2015 at 12:02 pm
So what have we learned from this foolishness?
We learned you won’t criticize someone you agree with for the same things you are so eager to criticize others for you invent the infraction to justify it.
Forget the flippin’ grammer! Jim just accused someone of killing babies!!😱
Is it a violation of civility rules to accuse someone of murder? Jim care to elaborate how you ‘know’ that T.Hall kills babies?
It would be a good idea to have the civility rules section about respecting other’s privacy posted somewhere prominent, where it can be seen and absorbed daily.
I wonder why T. Hall loves to kill babies. But only he loves Americans. Well that is, the ones that pass through his extermination process.
You have no idea who Rick is or how he treats the people around him. All you know is that he believes the same foolish nonsense that you believe.
And if anyone knows anything about drama, it would be you. Ever get down to Kentucky?
Schulte: Once again, you continue to demonstrate that you don’t understand what an ad hominem is. I know they tell you to use that defense in your employee handbook whenever you can’t think of a real retort, but it still doesn’t make it true.
PS: Neither does saying, “Yes it does”, or “Uh-huh, is too”.
Hall – there are a wide range of ad hominems. You have used some of them.
Rick, You’re being double teamed by people who love to create drama, like the reality shows they watch. My suggestion would be to ignore them. I know it can be difficult. But, it is prudent. Good luck, you’re a good man.
Rick,
You probably missed my comment while you were composing yours. (See that? I just gave you the benefit of the doubt.) But the issue is moot, as far as I’m concerned.
But your contention that I’m the grammar Nazi is wrong, once again.
Schulte is the one goosestepping the grammar.
Hall – another ad hominem. I never commented on Rick’s grammar. Annie did.
Rick, again, if you would’ve taken care to include the ‘offending’ error, your entire comment would’ve been clearer. So what have we learned from this foolishness? Ignore spelling and grammar errors and read the comment for it’s intent. Problem solved. Glad we all could come to a meeting of the minds, lol.
“Dust Bunny Queen –’Sometimes I think it will be a good thing to have society collapse for a while.'”
Then by all means, vote for the Republicans, because they’re the ones who’re promising to do it.
Honestly, as if Bush’s Great Recession wasn’t enough.
Why do you people hate Americans so much?
Annie
1, October 28, 2015 at 11:41 am
No Rick, the sentence I was referring to was the one in which you quoted him @11:08 AM.
No Annie, that quote is merely what I was responding to not the mistake I was pointing out.
Aren’t there more important issues to focus on than occasional mistakes in grammer or spelling?
Even you should be able to notice it wasn’t I who brought it up but Hall since I’m criticizing his standing as grammar Nazi.
So let’s summarize:
Hall brings grammar into the debate for which you have no comment at all even though you now claim it to be highly inappropriate. But when I make the exact same point you feel it so necessary to make now it bothers you so much you have to repeat my own criticism. The fact that your partisanship misleads you so completely and often should alarm you.
Annie: Thanks for the defense, but I’ll have to concede Rick’s point on my use of “you’re”.
It was a simple mistake, brought on by haste and distraction, but like most low-brows, they seize on honest errors and try to make them appear more substantial than what they are.
It’s nothing more than latching on to the superficial when they have nothing of substance to attack
Sorry, that should have read, You had the same box of crickets that Rick was left with.
I know how you love to nitpick.
Nitpicking is a character flaw and a sign of an unhappy personality
Hall – nice of you not to lose your ability to throw out ad hominems. When you are a loser, you are loser all the way.
mMissy’ Harris-Perry may not think MSNBC’s ratings are low enough. On the other hand, her comments often remind me of Gilda Radner’s character Emily Litella on early SNL, so I hope she hangs in there!
‘WooHoo! Bring on the Apocalypse! My beans and rice are getting stale.’
No, Schulte, I was precisely right. I was contending that the Heller decision and McDonald which followed, broke with prior Second Amendment interpretation and Ricky-boy here disagreed. I didn’t respond with my opinion, I gave him about dozen Supreme Court and appeals court decisions and a review of 200 years of American jurisprudence by the president of the ABA, all cited. Had you bothered to read it, you would have loved it.
Or maybe you did read it and you the same box of crickets that Rick was left with.
Of course, you’re both free to carry on with Rick’s contention…I never claimed that my writing could eyesight to the blind.