There have been an uptick in stories challenging statements made by presidential candidate Donald Trump such as his account of watching thousands of people cheering the destruction of the Twin Towers in New Jersey. One such factual dispute comes from a retweet on Trump’s account that shows dark-skinned man wearing a bandana, a dark shirt and military-style pants and holding a handgun sideways. The image is accompanied by the rather surprising figures based on an unknown source called “Crime Statistics Bureau – San Francisco” on murders committed by blacks versus whites. It is an example of why retweets can be so dangerous.
The figures do not track with any reliable source. According to FBI statistics, of the 2,451 homicides of black people in 2014, 90% were committed by black people as opposed to 8% of the cases where offenders were white. That is high but so is the ratio for whites. Of the 3,021 homicides of white people in 2014, 82% were committed by white people while 15% of the offenders were black. It is hard to see how someone came up with the stats in the tweet. While the number of whites killed by blacks is roughly twice that of blacks killed by whites, it is still far short of the suggested 81% of white homicide victims. The difference is just seven percent above the rate for whites killing blacks. Even if you factor in lower number of blacks in society into weighing this percentage difference, it is still far less than what was presented in this retweet. Moreover, the statistics show that the overwhelming likelihood is that people are murdered by people of their own race.
There is plenty for us to argue about in the criminal justice system, but as the late Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, “You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.”
Plus, I am offended that blacks are culturally appropriating white-Asian firearms.
Government stats are increasingly bogus (even the Department of Defense is forced by Obama to lie to the public, as we recently discovered), having become entirely politicized.
We don’t know the numbers.
Nevertheless, I doubt Trump’s data are correct.
I hope there is some non-manipulable data point that’s useful and uncontrolled by the Feds, akin to shipping container use and the economy.
Regardless, the best thing about the Obama administration has been all the racial healing.
Last night in Minneapolis, at a Black Lives Matter protest at the police station (protesting the shooting of a black man who attacked a cop who was keeping him from beating up his girlfriend):
Thanks, Obama!
You got your race war.
I certainly do not believe the FBI statistics in an Obama administration whose known to manipulate and out right lie about everything that doesn’t coincide with his agenda. I believe BLM lie constantly how their lives are at risk by cops and whites.
Cops killed 112 black armed and unarmed black men in 2014. There were 4,700 murders of black men by other black men. So their arguments are baseless and based on fantasy. They have zero credibility, just like their head agitators Obama, Sharpton and Holder.
Trump said he trusted the news source and did not fact check the tweet before he retweeted it. This will be a non-story by the end of the day if it isn’t already.
RWL
Sorry, wrong decade. The picture is from a 1920 lynching in Duluth MN. So you’re 100+. I am impressed.
RWL,
If you were learning to ride a bike in 1930, you’re over 90 yrs old. You do have a lot to be thankful for–enjoy the season.
I just read a so called “news” story emerging from Minneapolis. A White supremist group known as White Lives Matter showed up to counter protest a group known as Black Lives Matter and the WLM guys shot five people from the BLM side of the aisle. It seems that the BLM group was calling for segregation and the WLM counter protesters were calling for integration. The segregationists who were shot are being treated and the police are looking for the integrationists with guns.
We have had some controversial topics recently. However, this has been the most sane and civil 24 days I have experienced here on the Turley blog. Kudos.
For more information on this go to the website: BLM.gov
But, Paul: What is the “Bimbo Eruptions”. Does this have to do with coitus interruptus?
BarkinDog – Google Bimbo Eruptions and see who was in charge of putting them down.
The more the Establishment, be it the MSM, GOP or Dem, go after Trump, the higher his numbers go. That, dear people, is the mark of demagogue in a time when regular folk are fed up.
Who can forget Hillary landing under gunfire? Actually, the highlight of the week was Hillary’s tweet that sexual victims need to be believed. Then there were a flurry of tweets reminding her about her and Bill and the Bimbo Eruptions.
Here is one for you or Y’all:
Those who can: Do.
Those who can’t: Tweet.
Those who can’t Tweet: vote RepubliCon.
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But don’t tweet me on that.
I think anything goes in a presidential campaign
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Someone posted a link here some time back, regarding author Colin Flaherty, who wrote “Don’t Make the Black Kids Angry.” I haven’t read the book, but I did follow the link to his website where he tracks black violence against whites. I have to say, it was pretty astonishing, far worse than I would have ever imagined. He points out that the MSM sensationalizes any crimes by whites against blacks, but ignores black violence towards whites, and there has NEVER been a single hate crime prosecution of a black person who attacked or killed a white, even in the so-called knock-out game, or “polar bearing” as they call it, where the point is to sucker punch and knock a white person unconscious. His website was where I first learned of the utterly horrific rape, torture and murder of the young white couple by five blacks cited above. That was never reported in the national press. Nor was the brazen attack on the young white woman and her child driving near the University of Chicago. She pulled up to a stop sign and was attacked by a gang of blacks for being “in the wrong ‘hood.” So I don’t know what the official numbers are, but Colin Flaherty seems a lot more credible than some politically driven statistics produced by Obama’s appointees in the DOJ. And remember, Flaherty is reporting what is happening NOW, not something that took place in Mississippi more than half a century ago.
In 2005, the Congress and the White House apologize for not passing anti-lynching legislation sooner, which would’ve saved more than 4000 black men and women from 1882-1968 (and more than 1200 white men and women who were also lynched). Some historians believe that this number is a very conservative figure due to the number of blacks who were ‘suddenly missing’ from their homes during mob raids and drive by shootings (yes, black gang members learned about drive by shootings from white southerners who would drive through black neighborhoods, in the early to mid 1900s, and ‘shoot up the place,’).
John,
Look at this picture. Some of us were just learning how to ride a bike when this occurred.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/lynching.aspx
Reblogged this on BGK Blog.
John,
Emmett Louis Till (July 25, 1941 – August 28, 1955) was an African-American teenager who was lynched in Mississippi at the age of 14, after reportedly flirting with a white woman.
Till was from Chicago, Illinois, and visiting relatives in Money, a small town in the Mississippi Delta region. He spoke to 21-year-old Carolyn Bryant, the married proprietor of a small grocery store there. Several nights later, Bryant’s husband Roy and his half-brother J. W. Milam went to Till’s great-uncle’s house and abducted the boy. They took him away and beat and mutilated him before shooting him and sinking his body in the Tallahatchie River. Three days later, Till’s body was discovered and retrieved from the river.
Till’s body was returned to Chicago. His mother, who had mostly raised him, insisted on a public funeral service with an open casket to show the world the brutality of the killing. “The open-coffin funeral held by Mamie Till Bradley exposed the world to more than her son Emmett Till’s bloated, mutilated body. Her decision focused attention not only on American racism and the barbarism of lynching but also on the limitations and vulnerabilities of American democracy”.[1] Tens of thousands attended his funeral or viewed his casket and images of his mutilated body were published in black-oriented magazines and newspapers, rallying popular black support and white sympathy across the U.S. Intense scrutiny was brought to bear on the condition of black civil rights in Mississippi, with newspapers around the country critical of the state. Although initially local newspapers and law enforcement officials decried the violence against Till and called for justice, they soon began responding to national criticism by defending Mississippians, which eventually transformed into support for the killers.
In September 1955, Bryant and Milam were acquitted of Till’s kidnapping and murder. Protected against double jeopardy, Bryant and Milam publicly admitted in an interview with Look magazine that they killed Till. Problems identifying Till affected the trial, partially leading to Bryant’s and Milam’s acquittals, and the case was officially reopened by the United States Department of Justice in 2004. As part of the investigation, the body was exhumed and autopsied resulting in a positive identification. He was reburied in a new casket, which is the standard practice in cases of body exhumation. His original casket was donated to the Smithsonian Institution.
The trial of Bryant and Milam attracted a vast amount of press attention. Till’s murder is noted as a pivotal catalyst to the next phase of the African-American Civil Rights Movement. Events surrounding Emmett Till’s life and death, according to historians, continue to resonate. Some writers have suggested that almost every story about Mississippi returns to Till, or the region in which he died, in “some spiritual, homing way”.[2]
John,
I will raise you one:
The Murder of James Byrd, Jr.:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Byrd,_Jr.
James Byrd, Jr. (May 2, 1949 – June 7, 1998) was an African-American who was murdered by three men, of whom at least two were white supremacists, in Jasper, Texas, on June 7, 1998. Shawn Berry, Lawrence Russell Brewer, and John King dragged Byrd for three miles behind a pick-up truck along an asphalt road. Byrd, who remained conscious throughout most of the ordeal, was killed when his body hit the edge of a culvert, severing his right arm and head. The murderers drove on for another mile before dumping his torso in front of an African-American cemetery in Jasper.[1] Byrd’s lynching-by-dragging gave impetus to passage of a Texas hate crimes law. It later led to the federal Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, commonly known as the Matthew Shepard Act, which passed on October 22, 2009, and which President Barack Obama signed into law on October 28, 2009.[2]
Murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom – Wikipedia
Channon Gail Christian, 21, and Hugh Christopher Newsom, Jr., 23, were an unmarried couple from Knoxville, Tennessee. They were kidnapped the evening of January 6, 2007 when Christian’s vehicle was carjacked, and taken to a rental house, where they were raped, tortured, and murdered. Christian and Newsom were leaving an apartment together on the evening of January 6, 2007 to go to a friend’s party when they were abducted via her car from the apartment complex parking lot.
Worried about not hearing from their daughter, Christian’s parents sought help from her mobile phone provider. They found her abandoned Toyota 4-Runner on Monday, January 8. Police recovered an envelope from the vehicle that yielded fingerprint evidence leading them to Lemaricus Davidson of 2316 Chipman Street, an address two blocks from Christian’s car. When police went to the address on Tuesday, January 9,
they found the house unoccupied and Christian’s body in a bin in the kitchen.
Newsom’s body was discovered near a set of nearby railroad tracks. He had been bound, blindfolded, gagged, and stripped naked from the waist down. He had been shot in the back of the head, neck, and back, and his body had been set on fire. According to the testimony of the Knox County Acting Medical Examiner Dr. Darinka Mileusnic-Polchan at the trial of Eric Boyd, Newsom was sodomized with an object and raped by a person. Police believe these actions took place at the house and his body was later wrapped and abandoned. The medical examiner said that Channon died after hours of torture, suffering injuries to her vagina, anus, and mouth in repeated sexual assaults. Bleach was poured down her throat and used to scrub her body while she was alive in an attempt by her attackers to remove DNA evidence. She was bound with curtains and strips of bedding, her face covered with a trash bag, and her body stashed in five large trash bags. These were placed inside a residential waste disposal unit and covered with sheets. The medical examiner said there was evidence that Channon slowly suffocated to death.
Five black people were arrested and charged in the case.