We have previously discussed the dilemma of how to deal with men who continue to have children without child support. The latest case in point is Armond Curry, 36, (known as “Money G Allstar Mack”) in Milwaukee, Wisconsin who is being sought by police after failing to support 17 children. Despite the warrant for arrest and worst deadbeat dad status in Wisconsin, one of the mothers insists “He’s not a bad father, he’s a great father.”
Money G now has 17 felony counts pending for failing to pay child support and appears on the run. James insists that he does get together with all of his children and “they all know their father and know how good a father he is.”
Police say that Money G lives a highlife as a rapper and recording artist while fathering children and leaving them destitute. Prosecutors believe that they may have a way of slowing down Money G’s procreation: he faces a possible 3 1/2 years in prison for each of the 17 counts.
In the very least, this must have made for an exhaustive Thanksgiving dinner for Money G.
Bill McW: thanks for sharing. Heartbreaking.
He’s really not exceptional at all. This is actually quite ordinary behavior for men in his peer group, like Nick said. My aunt taught at an inner-city school in the Midwest. 12 of the kids in her class were siblings or half-siblings. So some guy got 12 women pregnant in 1 year alone.
I don’t believe that the next approach in this scenario would be incarceration for this individual. An enhanced form of parole, “dangling the carrot” if you will, would allow him to work and still provide to his children. Of course if he continues not complying with the order then incarceration would be the only recourse.
DBQ – remember the dust up that was created in NY when Bloomberg wanted to get soda pop removed from approved items for food stamps ( SNAP)? No way, no how was the US govt. going to do that , reasons cited by critics mostly centered around how that would be embarrassing, denigrating , belittling to those receiving food stamps to actually suggest that the food purchased on food stamps provide nutrition!
If we can’ t do that one small change , we could never do, what often would be in the best interest of the child , what you suggest.
He’s being sought by the police in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, for failing to support 17 children? One place to rule out as a potential hiding place for this impregnating machine–the condom isle at Wal-Mart.
The 14 year old girl who was sitting with a baby at the clinic was explaining how she got pregnant so that “I can get my check!” She explained that the father of the baby lives nearby but, when asked, says he does not pay any support. She lives with here mom who is 29 and her grandma who is 48. Grandma takes care of the baby. That is the baby’s great grandma. They all collect welfare for one reason or another. Mom of this mom gets Aid For Dependent Children for this mom.
My own father was married, I think, whenever I was conceived out of wedlock. He never contacted me nor provided any support for me. I grew up poor and unwanted, by my maternal aunt – who led me to believe that she was my mother, and that my mother was my aunt.
“Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget
falls drop by drop upon the heart,
until, in our own despair,
against our will,
comes wisdom
through the awful grace of God.” Aeschylus
Does he win a prize for being number one in the category of Wisconsin’s deadbeat dads?
This also indicates he is not a proponent of safe sex. What else has he given all those women?
Clearly, the mother who thinks he is a “good father” does not expect financial support. She expected him to deposit a child with her, then to go on public assistance. And if he came around at all, he was a “good father.” I want to talk some sense into these girls, to get them to raise their expectations of both themselves, and the men they choose.
This reminds me so much of the novels by Pearl Cleage. I think it was “I Wish I Had a Red Dress” that dealt with young women self destructing. A widow ran a non profit Sewing Circus, trying to help them, and trying to teach them to require more for themselves.
Both the mothers and the fathers were acting selfishly, with no consideration for the children they would bring into the world in such circumstances. He clearly didn’t care about all the road blocks he just threw up for so many young people. I’ve posted before about the risk factors for the kids of single mothers, and how it’s so much harder for them to get a good life. Accidents happen, but 17 times is deliberate.
And the women contribute how much?
He is most assuredly NOT a good father! A good father process {provides} for his children and make sure they have a home and food and the necessities of life. A good father makes choices that give his children a fighting chance
Holmes is correct.
A good father AND mother provides security for their children. Works. Sets good moral examples. Ensures his children get an education and skills to get jobs. Teaches responsibility, fidelity, compassion, and is a tower of strength.
What these children are learning is despicable. Someone else, WE the taxpayers, are the ones providing for this man’s and these many women’s children. They are living off the sweat of the brow of unwilling strangers. They are learning that there are no responsibilities because they are easing along on the gravy train provided by money stolen from others.
When are we going to go after not just this freeloading amoral man but these freeloading and amoral women.
Young Black men generally have a short life expectancy so they adopt an attitude of spreading their DNA
And so…..he spread his seed everywhere and we are expected to tend to the gardens that he refuses to acknowledge. In addition to making my own life, taking care of my own children, working since the age of 15, I’m supposed to take on HIS burdens too? Sorry. It is not my responsibility. It is not my fault that he lives in a sh*tty neighborhood and spews children like an out of control fire hose. Get some restraint. Move. Find a job. ( Millions of illegal aliens who don’t even speak English can do it.) Why can’t he. It is NOT my fault. Stop sucking off of my life.
Here is the deal. If you are not going to take care of your children….mothers and fathers…..and expect that WE do it for you, we should take those children, put them into foster care or into schools and barracks where they will learn and get skills. Obviously, these poor children are caught in a continuing pattern of FAIL. If we have pay for it, we should be in charge of what type of upbringing these kids get. Cut off the money supply to those who get paid by the kid and put that money into a more useful and productive upbringing. Let the screaming begin. But…I’m serious. Do we want to save these children or do we want more of the same?
Some guys compare scoring sex with women to playing golf on a 19 hole course.
Golfer, Tiger Woods had sex with 121 women. Ex wife Elin Nordegren gets a $100 million in divorce settlement.
Money G, unfortunately is cash strapped. What’s worse than 1 Money G? 17 Money G’s.
There are so many great quotes that are relevant to this subject.
“Any man can be a Father but it takes someone special to be a dad.” -Anne Geddes
“Of all nature’s gifts to the human race, what is sweeter to a man than his children?” – Cicero (106-43 BC)
And then there is HRC’s cherished saint, Margaret Sanger:
“…human weeds,’ ‘reckless breeders,’ ‘spawning… human beings who never should have been born.”
“We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,” she said, “if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.” Woman’s Body, Woman’s Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America, by Linda Gordon
So fathering as many children as you can is a sign of what? I heard the same argument on a video of rampant arabs in Germany explaining to the locals how they were going to take over Europe by simply out procreating the locals. Statistics prove that most Western nations are close to zero, at zero, or below zero in replacing those that are dying with offspring.
So, we have a choice, start procreating like crazy or become a minority and study the koran, learn rap, invest in bling.
Young Black men generally have a short life expectancy so they adopt an attitude of spreading their DNA while they are able A different attitude might be adopted if their life circumstances were more positive. The availability of good jobs, the availability of credit (depends on the good jobs), less violence in their neighborhoods due to turf wars and drugs that would be less desirable if there were good jobs available. For a good job, a good education is necessary but most inner city schools are left to rot and ruin. It’s a vicious cycle. I read a story about a very wealthy man in Florida, yes, that Florida, who promised college to every kid in the inner school who graduated. Graduation rates went from about 30% to 100%. Hope of a good future makes the difference.
This is not to say that I condone the lack of support that some of these men give their kids. And the nightmare of the possibility of half-siblings “hooking up”…
“He’s a good father.”
I think she used the wrong word.
In any case, the US government has promoted single motherhood for over fifty years.
He’s just fulfilling the welfare state contract.
He is most assuredly NOT a good father! A good father process for his children and make sure they have a home and food and the necessities of life. A good father makes choices that give his children a fighting chance. One such choice would have been not to have children until he intended to think more of his children than he dies of himself.
As to the mothers responsibility, yes they are also culpable here. They have obligations and they have made some very bad choices.
Incredible story
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At what point are any of the “mothers” in this situation become culpable? It’s only the father who an idiot?
Is it reasonable that we expect a woman to evaluate the potential paternal responsibility of a potential father? At what point do we begin to ask if she is a fit mother? Which of these mothers should be held accountable? Number 4? Maybe 10?
Nope, his magical rap mesmerized these women and they could not help but be inseminated.
Alas, the only interesting thing the mainstream will evaluate is the father.
This fathering many children w/ different women is a destructive trait in the black/male culture. It is considered a badge of honor in some circles. My wife was a Federal Probation Officer and would have to chronicle all children for the presentence reports she would write. The defendants would state w/ pride the multiple kids and baby mamas. Double digits was not unusual.