Inspector General: Clinton Emails Contain Special Access Material Above The Top Secret Level

Hillary_Clinton_Testimony_to_House_Select_Committee_on_BenghaziFox News and NBC are reporting that Congress has been informed that Hillary Clinton’s unsecure home server contained information classified at levels higher than previously known, including classified Top Secret/Special Access. That would represent some of the most sensitive information to U.S. intelligence. I have held a TSSCI clearance since the Reagan Administration and I am again astonished by the remarkably bad judgment in the use of this server.   In dealing with this type of information, it is generally restricted to SCIF and other highly restrictive access rules.  Indeed, the limitations impose restrictions that have many of us grumbling constantly about the time and travel needed to deal with such documents in a safe and secure manner.  CNN is reporting that “several dozen” new emails have been identified at the high classification level.

The Special Access material does not appear to be the same two Top Secret emails identified earlier among the hundreds of classified emails found on the server.

Charles McCullough, the intelligence community’s inspector general, said in a letter to the chairmen of the Senate intelligence and foreign affairs committees that he has received sworn declarations that cover “several dozen emails containing classified information determined by the IC element to be at the CONFIDENTIAL, SECRET and TOP SECRET/SAP information.”

Now here is the kicker. NBC says that one official involved in the investigation said that the special access program in question was so sensitive that McCullough and some of his aides had to receive clearance to be read in on it before viewing the sworn declaration about the Clinton emails.

Clinton has insisted that “I never sent classified material on my email, and I never received any that was marked classified.” The key of this spin is again the word “marked.” I have previously discussed why that explanation is less than compelling, particularly for anyone who has handled sensitive or classified material. As I discussed earlier, virtually anything coming out of the office of the Secretary of State would be considered classified as a matter of course. I have had a TS/SCI clearance since Reagan due to my national security work and have lived under the restrictions imposed on email and other systems. The defense is that this material was not technically classified at the time that it was sent. Thus it was not “classified” information. The problem is that it was not reviewed and classified because it was kept out of the State Department system. Moreover, most high-level communications are treated as classified and only individually marked as classified when there is a request for disclosure. You do not generate material as the Secretary of State and assume that it is unclassified. You are supposed to assume and treat it as presumptively classified. Otherwise, there would be massive exposure of classified material and willful blindness as to the implications of the actions of persons disregarding precautions. For example, there is not a person standing next to the President with a classification stamp in the Oval Office. However, those communications are deemed as presumptively classified and are not disclosed absent review. Under the same logic, the President could use a personal email system because his text messages by definition are not marked as classified. This is the whole reason that Clinton and others were told to use the protected email system run by the State Department. We have spent hundreds of millions of dollars to secure such systems.

The fact that an email was not marked classified could be a defense to a criminal charge but it does nothing to address horrendous judgment shown in using a private email system exclusively as one of the top government officials (and a chief target of foreign intelligence).

The presence of the highest classified material on the server would magnify the scandal further for Clinton, who has run on her experience and judgment in the national security area.

Clinton campaign spokesman Brian Fallon responded to the story with the same point that nothing was actually marked classified: “This is the same interagency dispute that has been playing out for months, and it does not change the fact that these emails were not classified at the time they were sent or received. It is alarming that the intelligence community IG, working with Republicans in Congress, continues to selectively leak materials in order to resurface the same allegations and try to hurt Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

118 thoughts on “Inspector General: Clinton Emails Contain Special Access Material Above The Top Secret Level

  1. Anyone who would trust her for that “3AM phone call” is seriously lacking in judgement.

    There is NO defense for her acts. . . . none.

  2. Let’s not forget that she is being investigated by the FBI, congress has nothing to do with that investigation. Hello!

    I do not see those three letters in this story, so you can say it was a selective spin piece!

  3. The FBI is part of the DOJ. The head of the DOJ, whether Eric Holder or Loretta Lynch, are appointed by Obama and report to him. Thus the fact that the FBI is continuing this investigation at all suggests that Obama wants to undermine Hillary’s campaign based on his long-standing enmity towards the Clintons. I’m not saying that HC didn’t use very poor judgment, but I see her actions more as a product of convenience and arrogance than criminal cunning. She had an IT expert build a private server for her home, which, BTW, has never been hacked by the Chinese, unlike the State Dept’s supposedly secure computer system. So really, I see this investigation as a political strategy by Obama to get back at the Clintons because they labeled him a lightweight during his initial campaign for President. Which he is. Most assuredly, the most unqualified president in recent U.S. history. He was elected because he was perceived as a non-black black guy who would heal racial wounds. Well, we can see how far that got us……

  4. Lets think about how this goes. A criminal jury trial. The accusation is that there was highly classified information in one of her emails. She says it was not highly classified. Lets skip the ALL CAPS here put out by JT– all that “confidential, top secret ” wordage. If the person who determined that the information was of such a highly secret level, had to be given special clearance to make that judgment, then how is the jury going to decide the case unless each juror is given special clearance to see the information? It is not going to happen.

    One comment above says that Obama is behind all this. Possibly. He could have killed this investigation and all this drama.

    So, maybe you folks on the blog do not care just what it was in the information which is supposed to be highly secret, but I do. So do the voters. If this is all that itShay about how bad the food was at the Saudi Embassy at dinner then it is just itShay.

    Here is a sentence by JT from above which is disjointed: “I have held a TSSCI clearance since the Reagan Administration that such information is generally restricted to SCIF and other highly restrictive access rules.” There is something missing here. Perhaps there needs to be some segment after the words “Reagan Administration”. Is there an exception to “generally restricted to..” There might be.

    I am not suggesting that the itShay might not hit the fan and that Hillary won’t be prosecuted. What I am suggesting is that we may never know the content of the so called secret itShay. itShay is Pig Latin. Had her emails been coded in Pig Latin then they might be legal.

  5. I suspect that this is all happening to ole Hillary, and not fading away as a distant memory, to ultimately make room for Biden, the I-Can’t-Bear-to-Run-for-President guy, to charge in, on his white horse, and save the Democratic party in the 11th hour. Don’t count Mr. Chicklets-Teeth out so fast. He’s hiding in the wings, patiently waiting to be begged to run for office, much like the fat wallflower at the junior high dance, who waits, quietly, in the corner, for some pimple-faced boy to notice her and ask for a dance.

  6. Hillary Clinton must expect us to believe that no foreign intelligence agency would even think of discovering CLINTONEMAIL.COM and watch network traffic to and from that domain, much less hack into it, to find all the State Department’s secrets.

    Let’s employ Occam’s Razor. Did Mrs. Clinton use a State Department email address for all her state business? Second, is it a course of business to send classified information using email at State? If she rarely if ever used the State email system it is only logical that sensitive information went through to her home brew email server. It is obvious that she violated protocol with regard to sensitive information.

    Maybe we could ask the Russians for the missing emails.

  7. Classified materials are one of the products of a society driven by psychopaths. To quote Orwell ….. ‘All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.’ And some information as well.

  8. “She had an IT expert build a private server for her home, which, BTW, has never been hacked by the Chinese, unlike the State Dept’s supposedly secure computer system. ”

    What is the source for the claim that the email server was never hacked? A quick google reveals numerous news stories claiming indications that her email server was hacked.

    Any script kitty can find instructions on the web to put up an email server. Putting up an email server requires little IT skill. There are also web pages offering advice to secure the server. But despite the best advice available, even the highest levels of government get hacked far too often.

    A completely different kind of problem relates to intrusion detection. Determining whether a server has been breached may be obvious – depending on the skill of the hacker. But the best hackers may find ways to breach a server and leave no indications – that depends on the skill of the server administrators and the skill of the hackers.

    Finally it is inconceivable to me that SOS would not have been a target for surveillance by any number of groups and foreign powers. I cannot believe that her use of a personal email server would have gone unnoticed by all that might want to intercept high level government messages. If foreign hackers can compromise the best DOD servers then what chance does a small IT consulting firm have?

    We may never know for sure. But unless Hillary is using telepathy it is a safe bet her messages have been hacked, and that could have happened without leaving a trace.

    It takes a great deal of arrogance to believe that a private consultant can implement better security than the combined efforts of the best in the US government. Maybe – but do you really want to bet your fortune, you life, or the safety of your family on that?

  9. I too have worked under a ‘done of silence’ beit years ago. Unless the rules have changed, the fact that classified information was on an unclassified server is, in itself, a breach. If someone accidentally left a document, which required to be in a safe, out overnight at the facility I worked, in a locked office and at a double-guarded facility, our security considered that document compromised. Simply because not all personnel are cleared to that top level. It was our responsibility to inform security of that fact. Although most of those incidents did not necessarily result in any punishment being handed out, they always resulted in a slap on the wrist and a briefing update. The parent agency of those TSSA documents on Clinton’s unclassified server must consider them compromised if they operate under the same ground rules. Not saying they do because some agencies may be more strict than others. But just as important, a person (HRC or someone on the other end) with that clearance level would know the information was classified after reading its content and would have the responsibility to report the TSSA information was unmarked. The FBI is supposedly a nonpolitical agency. They have their guideline to follow and I’m sure they will. Maybe.

  10. And, as great professional observers have commented, she wears pant suits. Line up all the options and yeah, pick the Trump/Palin circus.

  11. She must feel quite confident that nothing will happen to her. She and the democrat aristocracy keep plugging away as the candidate to beat. They are looking to take away a star from Gen. Patraeus and this witch and hubby skate free all their misdeeds! Our government and representatives are way to corrupt, something must be done to save this once great nation.

  12. Where the hell are the indictments?
    People die when this sort of information gets disclosed, or a means of intelligence gathering is permanently closed off from future use.
    The transport or holding of such data on an unapproved network by someone who agreed to keep said data in confidence demands indictment.

    Where is it?

    Oh, I see, the corruption is so deep that Team O feels free to resist.

  13. Fudd’s First Law of Opposition states: “If you push something hard enough, it will fall over”. Will there be enough to topple Hillary?

  14. p.s. a penetrating glimpse into the obvious:
    If anyone else had done any of what Hillary has done, they’d already be in the dock and probably already have had their trial. They certainly wouldn’t be running for President.

  15. BamBam made a comment at 2:12 a.m.- I was thinking the same line of reasoning.
    Until I see what the so called secret information was then I will never convict Hillary. Since they will never reveal the exact nature of the top secret information that we will never be able to judge. It is kind of like when the government says that Erdogan killed a Kurd. We do not really know that. Or when we kill some human with no boot on over in Afghanistan by a drone. We in American will never get confirmation as to just who was killed and by whose drone. Then there is the Ben Gazi incident. I have asked Ben several times if he knows anything about it and he denies it. He was in his workshop here in America during that so called incident, not in the Libya home of his ancestors.
    And on the other hand, if the food in the Saudi Embassy is so bad then the world needs to know it.
    Secret, secret, bo becrit.

  16. If nothing is done, if Hillary is not indicted for this, the American public can conclude that the rule of law is dead, especially given Obama’s anti-Constitutional actions.

    Put more simply, why should the average Joe comply with our numberless laws?

    Any civilized nation depends on daily compliance with the law by its populace.
    What will the government do when millions of people refuse to comply?
    You can’t put everyone in jail.
    This way lies anarchy or revolution.

  17. Whether or not she broke the law, whether or not she did any “real” harm, the very stupidity of not following the rules and guidelines about email accounts should disqualify her from being president. She and Bill have been under incredible scrutiny for more than 20 years. Insane accusations, Star Chambers, a vast right wing conspiracy as she herself said. Knowing that, and not having anyone by her side to tell her NOT to do this? Totally stupid move.

  18. “This way lies anarchy or revolution.”

    I think the word you are reaching for is Oligarchy. Relax, some people are just more equal and deserving than others.

    It seems we are living in a new age distinguished by the divine right of Hillary. What could possibly go wrong?

  19. I expect increasing noncompliance, slow compliance, work-to-the-rule, falsified information, hypercompliance (to overburden the system), and black market activities given the flouting of the law by HRC and Obama (et al).

    The leaders have set the tone.
    Why should we average schmucks do any different?

  20. Anyone remember “Filegate”?

    A finding made by now Chief Judge Royce Lamberth in the famous Filegate case, which involved Bill and Hillary Clinton illegally obtaining 900 FBI files on perceived adversaries to intimidate witnesses.

    It became well-known during the Clinton years that while the president was a “certified” sleaze ball, the most evil partner of this Bonnie-and-Clyde duo was Hillary.
    She came to be seen as the “consigliore” of the couple, the one who had executed (pun intended) their dastardly plans and deeds.

    Filegate – This patented Hillary scandal was first detected by the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee, which had been investigating the Clintons’ Travelgate caper.
    What was learned is that more than 900 FBI files had been ordered up by a former bar bouncer, Craig Livingstone, whom Hillary had hired to work in the White House Counsel’s Office,
    on the first lady’s orders and without proper legal justification. It was discovered, that Hillary’s finger prints were all over those FBI files.

  21. @BigfatMike -> Exactly, the “devine” right is correct. . . . Hillary Clinton (D)evine behind her name.

    A former CIA officer was charged with a Felony, convicted and jailed for sending “One” classified email to a journalist. . . . ONE !

    As someone who was sworn in as a federal officer using the exact same oath as the President of the U. S. and having to sign the same classified disclosures, if I had done this, I would have been charged with a felony by now and sitting in jail too. All of my other federal officer friends would too. Where’s the Justice . . . .

  22. What PhillyT wrote: “Whether or not she broke the law, whether or not she did any “real” harm, the very stupidity of not following the rules and guidelines about email accounts should disqualify her from being president. She and Bill have been under incredible scrutiny for more than 20 years. Insane accusations, Star Chambers, a vast right wing conspiracy as she herself said. Knowing that, and not having anyone by her side to tell her NOT to do this? Totally stupid move.”

    Hillary’s an arrogant, loose cannon.

    During the Carter administration, I had a final top secret clearance while stationed at HQ Marine Corps in Arlington. For a time, I was preparing a Major General’s morning intelligence brief, which required that I highlight information in the brief relevant to research and development. To my surprise, much of the information in the brief – lots of it marked ‘secret,’ I’d see again a few days later, it having been leaked to a newspaper or Time Magazine or Newsweek. The point here is that leaks were a big deal at HQMC. I can’t imagine such a dereliction of duty by a sitting Secretary of State. I would have been serving time breaking rocks had I taken a Top Secret document home with me, let alone leaving it there.

    Enough is enough from those two rich bobble heads.

  23. @Terry -> Bill Clinton lost his law license for perjury to a federal court. You can hide your stuff from a thief but you can never protect yourself from a liar and that’s a common trait amongst the Clintons.

    Hillary Clinton has been involved in scandals before. Here are some notable ones you may have forgotten.

    Chinagate – The Clinton-Gore campaign in 1996 allegedly took bribes from Chinese banks and their government to help their dwindling poll numbers. The Chinese embassy in D.C. helped siphon funds into the DNC. Secretary of Commerce Ron Brown (who was killed in a plane crash), and at Hillary’s instruction reportedly sold seats on department trade missions to China. Joint congressional hearings were canceled after Democrats threatened to bring up Republican campaign issues and then Monica Lewinsky actually saved this scandal from media attention.

    Travelgate Scandal – Catherine Cornelius, a 25-year-old cousin of Bill’s was allegedly promised the position of director of the travel office. Hillary Clinton then (indirectly) fired seven employees from the United States travel office and replaced them with associates from Arkansas. Records were either nowhere to be found or incorrectly filed. And, there’s a reported attempt to give a White House airline contract to friend. Hillary had the FBI investigate Billy Dale, the head of the travel office, ruining his career who was found to do nothing wrong, but was then audited by the IRS for three years after.

    “Billy Dale and his family went through hell thanks to the Clintons, Attorney General Janet Reno, the FBI and the IRS,” Irvine wrote. “Hillary’s greatest crime was not perjury, it was trying to send an innocent man to prison to justify having fired him and his staff without cause.”

    “A memorandum by a former Presidential aide depicts Hillary Rodham Clinton as the central figure in the 1993 travel office dismissals, a politically damaging episode that the aide said had resulted from a climate of fear in which officials did not dare question Mrs. Clinton’s wishes,” wrote the NYT in 1996.

    Whitewater Scandal – Hillary and her husband were partners in a shady real estate development firm called Whitewater Development Corp in Arkansas. Accusations of impropriety against the Clintons and others soon surfaced, regarding improper campaign contributions, political and financial favors, and tax benefits. Clinton’s friends and majority owners, James and Susan McDougal were jailed for fraud, Clinton’s successor, Governor Jim Tucker, was jailed for fraud along with municipal judges David Hale and Eugene Fitzhugh who worked with James McDougal. The Clintons walked away unscathed, having apparently done nothing wrong.

    See Whitewater Timeline.

    Vince Foster Jr. Mystery – Questions cloud the suicide of Vince Foster, former colleague, friend, and White House aid of Hillary’s who had connections to Travelgate, and the Whitewater scandals. Read the link above entitled “The Man Who Knew too Much. . .”

    Filegate Scandal – Craig Livingstone, director of the White House’s Office of Personnel Security “improperly” accessed FBI files on several hundred individuals.

    Mrs. Clinton called it a, “completely honest bureaucratic snafu.”

    Many of these files were on people from previous Republican administrations. Hillary Clinton hired Livingston and is alleged to have looked at the files and requested this move. She was accused by Republicans of violating privacy rights of individuals she viewed as political adversaries.

    Cattle-Futures Miracle – Hillary’s first commodity trade was in cattle futures where she ordered 10 futures contracts which normally cost $12,000 dollars with only $1,000 dollars in her account. This turned into $6,300 dollars by the next morning and after 10 months totaled $100,000, with trading help from James B. Blair.

    “Blair, who at the time was outside counsel to Tyson Foods Inc., Arkansas’ largest employer, says he was advising Clinton out of friendship, not to seek political gain. . .” reports The WashingtonPost.

    Robert L. “Red” Bone ran the Springdale, AK financial services company REFCO allowed the trades and later, after investigation, had to pay the largest fine at the time in the exchanges history and was suspended for three years. Hillary Clinton said she was able to make the successful trading because she read the Wall Street Journal for research.

    Lootergate – Bill and especially Hillary started to ship White House furniture to their personal home in Chappaqua, N.Y.. The Clintons claimed they were donated, but at only some were proven to be donated and meant to stay in the White House after contacting the manufacturers. The Clintons returned some of the furniture after pressure was put on them to do so.

    “GOP lawmakers and others criticized Hillary Rodham Clinton in particular for accepting many presents just before she joined the Senate and became covered by strict ethics rules that prohibit accepting gifts worth more than $50.”

    Drug Dealer Donor Scandal – Convicted drug trafficker Jorge Cabrera apparently made such a big donation to the Clinton’s campaign that he was invited to the White house without Secret Service present.

    Ponzi Scheme and Political Favor Scandal – Norman Yung Yuen Hsu was a convicted pyramid investment promoter, and major Democratic donor. He contributed an undisclosed amount to Hillary Clinton’s 2008 campaign.

    “He was sentenced to more than 24 years in prison in 2009 by a judge who accused him of funding his fraud by manipulating the political process in a way that ‘strikes at the very core of our democracy.”

    Benghazi – Need I say more?

    There is an article posted in the New York Times in 1996 entitled “Blizzard of Lies” about Hillary Clinton.

    The mega Clinton Foundation is also rife with cronyism and political favors.

    It never ends, it’s a virtual reality of constant corruption. . .

  24. Lisa N

    Excellent comment. It has always fascinated me just how lucky and, seemingly, insulated from prosecution, that these two grifters have been for all these many years. Nothing appears to stick to either of these con artists, and I can’t help but think of Al Capone–alleged to have been involved in multiple instances of criminal activity during his lifetime. Nothing seemed to bring him down until a problem, surrounding taxes, of all things, finally brought the roof down. Perhaps it will, ultimately, be the same for the Clintons–where some seemingly small, minor and innocuous incident, as compared to their previous criminal deeds, will act as their final downfall. Obviously, the big stuff just ain’t sticking. All in due time, my dear. All in due time. It ain’t over until the fat broad, in the oversized Mao-inspired pantsuit, sings.

  25. These documents are the type that have names of CIA and NSA sources and assets. There is a good chance PEOPLE DIED because of this STUPID arrogance. The meme is Dems are smart. All evidence to the contrary.

  26. “It has been widely reported…” and “There is a good chance…”

    I know how much you would love to see her frog-marched out of her house, but could we wait until some actual facts come in?

  27. The final outcome of this is going to be very bad if it is all swept under the rug and Clinton gets away (again) with breaking the laws.

    When “The People” see, plainly and irrefutably, that the laws do not apply and that the laws are being applied unfairly…..one law for the little people and no laws for the connected….then ALL laws mean nothing. We see that the immigration laws mean nothing and people are actually rewarded for breaking those laws. We see that the systems of laws and order is a joke.

    IF laws have no meaning why should anyone obey the laws of the land??? Why? The country is no longer. We have no borders. The criminals in government are unaccountable. We are a lawless collection of groups: each person for him/herself against a lawless government.

    This is the basis of rebellion and the kernel of Civil War.

    The anger towards the system has been building and reaching a crescendo. Trump is a result of this not the cause of it. If Hillary gets away with this the anger will boil over.

  28. but could we wait until some actual facts come in?

    Coming from the group that was willing to lynch Officer Wilson over the Ferguson gentle giant case, crucify George Zimmerman over the Trayvon Martin (Obama’s adopted son) case and are slavering to blame the Tea Party, NRA and Conservatives every time there is a shooting, without ANY facts being in……this is deliciously ironic. Wait for the actual facts…..ha ha ha ha…..wait

    Did you MEAN to be funny or are you just unaware of being this much of a hypocrite?

    I might also add that when the fact come in and the lynch mob is proven wrong, do any of you every apologize and admit that you were wrong or that you jumped the gun? No.

  29. “I know how much you would love to see her frog-marched out of her house, but could we wait until some actual facts come in?”

    There does not seem to be any doubt at all that she subverted security and mis handled classified information.

  30. Maybe this is what Bernie the Bolshevik means, when he flaps his hands in the air, spittle flying, and cries, WE NEED A REVOLUTION???

    Nah, his revolution has something to do with breaking up the banks, into small pieces, so small that they are invisible, dolling out free everything and anything for slackers who refuse to work or have any personal accountability in their lives–requiring the rest of us to pay for that indulgence of laziness and irresponsibility–and pissing off Wall Street, who, according to Bernie, was not going to be one if his friends. Question: does Bernie have any friends? I truly wonder what it’s like, to sit down at a meal with him. Does he ever turn off the–WE NEED TO HAVE A REVOLUTION–crap, long enough, to ask Aunt Edna to pass her special homemade kugel and brisket? Does the Bern have an off button? Does the Bern have more than the two ties, which he manages to interchange, when appears for the various debates and TV interviews? Come on, Bernie, even the Bolsheviks had more than one peasant top!

  31. There are voters, possibly some here, who would vote for Hillary if she ate babies on live video feed.

    At the national level at least (possibly all levels), ban both major parties for at least a half C.

  32. What bothers me is how so many people do not see this as an issue. Either they do not understand what an email server is, or they don’t understand how an employer is supposed to have control over the employee’s email. Or maybe they just don’t care.

  33. I can’t wait until Hillary is president and she posts the launch codes on a clipboard hanging on the fence around the White House.

  34. ModernMiner – Bill kept losing the launch codes. Having them on the fence would make them readily available.

  35. Lacking sworn written testimony under oath from independent expert source, readers should rightly presume Tin’s words are wishful thinking at best, outright Clinton propaganda at best: “…private server for her home, which…has never been hacked…”

    Please remember the US government itself confirmed (thank God for Edward Snowden’s disclosures) what was prior “tin hat conspiracy theory:” paid CIA shills troll social media like this enforcing government narratives. Certainly Hillary’s hench persons could and might be here doing the same.

    Per retired Federal Judge Andrew Napolitano: the FBI convicted of espionage an otherwise innocent active US Navy sailor for a selfie with a distant image of a sonar screen. Decorated Marine General Petreaus was convicted of espionage for documents in unlocked drawer in his office desk in his house surrounded by armed trained killers.

    Intent and negligence are not defense in espionage case, the reason being that US spy agents can and do die miserable painful tortured deaths in order to supply such information to civilian scum of the earth like Hillary.

    So the mere mention of “never hacked” is pure smoke and mirrors, or the statement of one of the persons I mentioned prior who’d vote for Hillary while watching her eat babies on live video feed (I suspect both qualifiers are accurate in Tin’s case).

  36. If it gets swept under the rug and dies a slow death under present admin. She better hopes she wins the election.

  37. ” I mentioned prior who’d vote for Hillary while watching her eat babies on live video feed ”

    Well that certainly ought to capture the attention of voters and liven up the debates. I wonder if Ms Schultz MSNBC have heard?

  38. Why are women getting angry with Hillary? Emails are not the issue. Here are some tid bits from the 90’s:

    “We have to destroy her story,” Mrs. Clinton said of one of the first women to come forward during her husband’s first presidential campaign.

    Mrs. Clinton referred to Monica Lewinsky, the White House intern who had an affair with the 42nd president, as a “narcissistic loony toon”.

    Over the years, the Clinton effort to cast doubt on the women included using words like “floozy,” “bimbo” and “stalker,” and raising questions about their motives.
    James Carville, a longtime strategist for Mr. Clinton, was especially cutting in attacking Ms. Flowers.
    “If you drag a hundred-dollar bill through a trailer park, you never know what you’ll find,” Mr. Carville said of Ms. Flowers.

  39. What would it say about our current system if Clinton can commit such gross violations of national security and seriously be considered for President? If she walks on this then what precedent is set for future violations from any one else? What a great way to commit espionage.

  40. Just to put things in perspective, the Obama Administration prosecuted a Marine hero who used his Gmail to notify COC that a terrorist was on base.

    One classified email sent on a private email, when lives were at stake, and this Marine is being prosecuted, and may face dishonorable discharge.

    Another sailor was prosecuted when he sent his girlfriend a selfie, which had a sonar screen in the background.

    The federal government takes the mishandling of classified information more seriously than I take the shutout of Outlander at the Golden Globes.

    Hillary Clinton sent thousands of classified email on her private email, was caught telling a subordinate to remove a classified heading to send a doc over unsecured fax when the secured fax was down, did not hand over her private emails when she was subpoenaed over Benghazi, and deliberately wiped her server clean when she came under investigation.

    See the difference in how the law is applied?

    Look, if they want to pardon her for old times’ sake, at least come out and tell the truth, and call what she did a crime. Stop pretending she didn’t do anything wrong and it’s all just a GOP conspiracy. Just tell it like it is – you don’t want the law to apply to your fave Hillary Clinton, who suffers from affluenza and entitlement, and whose followers exhibit a severe presentation of sycophantia.

    Just par for the course for the Beltway, really.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/14/hero-marine-nailed-for-sending-classified-report-from-personal-email.html

  41. phillyT:

    “I know how much you would love to see her frog-marched out of her house, but could we wait until some actual facts come in?”

    You know how much I love an investigation, and this warrants its investigation.

    The facts that have already come in include that Clinton did have classified, Top Secret, and even Special Access among her emails. Another fact is the email that we’ve already seen where she advised an employee to remove a classified heading and send via insecure fax.

    That, already, is a crime.

    Of course more facts will come in, and the investigation will run its course. We already know so far that she committed a crime. We also already know she attempted to wipe her server clean. What is also a fact is that intent to commit espionage is not required in the prosecution of the mishandling of classified information. (See above examples.) It merely requires negligence or failure to follow required protocol.

    These are not opinions or partisanship. It’s the facts as we already know them.

  42. On the one hand we have a lying, lawless lawyer who laughed about getting a pedophile off. On the other, we have a declared socialist who plans to raise trillions of dollars in taxes.

    And then across the aisle we have Trump.

    Now why couldn’t I have won that billion dollars in the CA Lottery and just bought my own paradise island?

  43. Professor Turley, I would be interested in your take regarding the Clinton campaign’s response to this news implying that the IG is working with Republicans in Congress and further implying this is nothing new. You have been around Washington a long time. Is there any credibility to the Clinton campaign’s comments implying some sort of behind the scenes cooperation between the IG and the Republicans? It would seem to me that the IG’s office would not engage in such partisan gamesmanship but that is clearly what is being suggested. So bottom line: is this news “new” or is it a continuation of the same stuff and do you believe there is some kind of collusion between the Republicans and the IG in releasing this information? I would really love to see what you have to say about it as I respect your opinion.

  44. Lisa N, you have to observe the juxtaposition to believe it.

    To wit,

    “I know how much you would love to see her frog-marched out of her house, but could we wait until some actual facts come in?”

    _____

    “Bill Clinton lost his law license for perjury to a federal court. You can hide your stuff from a thief but you can never protect yourself from a liar and that’s a common trait amongst the Clintons.

    Hillary Clinton has been involved in scandals before. Here are some notable ones you may have forgotten.

    Chinagate – The Clinton-Gore campaign in 1996 allegedly took bribes from Chinese banks and their government to help their dwindling poll numbers. The Chinese embassy in D.C. helped siphon funds into the DNC. Secretary of Commerce Ron Brown (who was killed in a plane crash), and at Hillary’s instruction reportedly sold seats on department trade missions to China. Joint congressional hearings were canceled after Democrats threatened to bring up Republican campaign issues and then Monica Lewinsky actually saved this scandal from media attention.

    Travelgate Scandal – Catherine Cornelius, a 25-year-old cousin of Bill’s was allegedly promised the position of director of the travel office. Hillary Clinton then (indirectly) fired seven employees from the United States travel office and replaced them with associates from Arkansas. Records were either nowhere to be found or incorrectly filed. And, there’s a reported attempt to give a White House airline contract to friend. Hillary had the FBI investigate Billy Dale, the head of the travel office, ruining his career who was found to do nothing wrong, but was then audited by the IRS for three years after.

    “Billy Dale and his family went through hell thanks to the Clintons, Attorney General Janet Reno, the FBI and the IRS,” Irvine wrote. “Hillary’s greatest crime was not perjury, it was trying to send an innocent man to prison to justify having fired him and his staff without cause.”

    “A memorandum by a former Presidential aide depicts Hillary Rodham Clinton as the central figure in the 1993 travel office dismissals, a politically damaging episode that the aide said had resulted from a climate of fear in which officials did not dare question Mrs. Clinton’s wishes,” wrote the NYT in 1996.

    Whitewater Scandal – Hillary and her husband were partners in a shady real estate development firm called Whitewater Development Corp in Arkansas. Accusations of impropriety against the Clintons and others soon surfaced, regarding improper campaign contributions, political and financial favors, and tax benefits. Clinton’s friends and majority owners, James and Susan McDougal were jailed for fraud, Clinton’s successor, Governor Jim Tucker, was jailed for fraud along with municipal judges David Hale and Eugene Fitzhugh who worked with James McDougal. The Clintons walked away unscathed, having apparently done nothing wrong.

    See Whitewater Timeline.

    Vince Foster Jr. Mystery – Questions cloud the suicide of Vince Foster, former colleague, friend, and White House aid of Hillary’s who had connections to Travelgate, and the Whitewater scandals. Read the link above entitled “The Man Who Knew too Much. . .”

    Filegate Scandal – Craig Livingstone, director of the White House’s Office of Personnel Security “improperly” accessed FBI files on several hundred individuals.

    Mrs. Clinton called it a, “completely honest bureaucratic snafu.”

    Many of these files were on people from previous Republican administrations. Hillary Clinton hired Livingston and is alleged to have looked at the files and requested this move. She was accused by Republicans of violating privacy rights of individuals she viewed as political adversaries.

    Cattle-Futures Miracle – Hillary’s first commodity trade was in cattle futures where she ordered 10 futures contracts which normally cost $12,000 dollars with only $1,000 dollars in her account. This turned into $6,300 dollars by the next morning and after 10 months totaled $100,000, with trading help from James B. Blair.

    “Blair, who at the time was outside counsel to Tyson Foods Inc., Arkansas’ largest employer, says he was advising Clinton out of friendship, not to seek political gain. . .” reports The WashingtonPost.

    Robert L. “Red” Bone ran the Springdale, AK financial services company REFCO allowed the trades and later, after investigation, had to pay the largest fine at the time in the exchanges history and was suspended for three years. Hillary Clinton said she was able to make the successful trading because she read the Wall Street Journal for research.

    Lootergate – Bill and especially Hillary started to ship White House furniture to their personal home in Chappaqua, N.Y.. The Clintons claimed they were donated, but at only some were proven to be donated and meant to stay in the White House after contacting the manufacturers. The Clintons returned some of the furniture after pressure was put on them to do so.

    “GOP lawmakers and others criticized Hillary Rodham Clinton in particular for accepting many presents just before she joined the Senate and became covered by strict ethics rules that prohibit accepting gifts worth more than $50.”

    Drug Dealer Donor Scandal – Convicted drug trafficker Jorge Cabrera apparently made such a big donation to the Clinton’s campaign that he was invited to the White house without Secret Service present.

    Ponzi Scheme and Political Favor Scandal – Norman Yung Yuen Hsu was a convicted pyramid investment promoter, and major Democratic donor. He contributed an undisclosed amount to Hillary Clinton’s 2008 campaign.

    “He was sentenced to more than 24 years in prison in 2009 by a judge who accused him of funding his fraud by manipulating the political process in a way that ‘strikes at the very core of our democracy.”

    Benghazi – Need I say more?

    There is an article posted in the New York Times in 1996 entitled “Blizzard of Lies” about Hillary Clinton.

    The mega Clinton Foundation is also rife with cronyism and political favors.

    It never ends, it’s a virtual reality of constant corruption. . .”

    — 1/11/16

    “The report indicates the initial security referral looking into whether or not classified information was mishandled has expanded to look at possible public corruption involving the Clinton Foundation.

    The report paints a picture of an internal struggle within the FBI over whether or not to prosecute Clinton. The reporter quotes an unnamed FBI source saying, “many previous public corruption cases have been made and successfully prosecuted with much less evidence than what is emerging in this investigation.”

    _____

    “You can lead a horse’s to water, but you can’t make him drink.”

    “If you back a wild animal, AKA welfare/affirmative action recipient, into a corner, it will strike out.”

    – Anonymous –

    _____

    “What difference – at this point, what difference does it make?”

    _____

    Is it any wonder the American Founders implemented a restricted vote in their republic?

    The inmates have taken over the asylum.

  45. Information is “classified” when some classifying authority deems it to be classified. The question I have not seen raised here is, who was the classifying authority for these various emails? To come along after the fact and say, “this or that should have been classified” is Monday-morning quarterbacking. In many cases, classification calls are very subjective.

  46. Jay S – when you strip the classified header off the document so you can send it thru the unclassified fax machine, it was already classified. Hillary ordered the header striped off. That is a crime. The question is going to be how many little people are going to be willing to go to jail to keep Hillary out.

  47. Jay,
    My most junior sailor understood more about information security than you apparently do. Even “Unclassified” information is handled at a minimum based on “Need to Know”. The private email server should be an obvious indication of her horrible lack of judgment, but her inability to determine “sensitivity” of information without a classification stamp should confirm this woman should never be trusted with a lunch menu let alone state secrets.

  48. Secrets are a necessary part of state action. No respect for secrets, not in the whistleblower sense but in the sense of an arrogant oligarch who could care less about the rules– that is awful. Indict her already and God bless Bernie Sanders & Donald Trump. Trump versus Sanders might be the first real election the voters have had for years.

  49. Jay S. You want to know who classified the document? The identify who classified the document is Party A. There now you know all you need to know.
    You say that classification calls are subjective. Party A can classify his grocery list if he feels the contents of his grocery list might disclose who he is having over for dinner, and that dinner guest’s whereabouts is classified or the fact that guest Is visiting him is classified. In most cases it will be obvious why the document is classified. But you don’t have to fully understand why a document is classified. All you need to know is if you see the stamp you treat it as such.

  50. “Bernie Sanders has already said “enough talk about the emails.” That should be good enough for everybody.”

    Really! Lmao, owe the 2nd king has spoken. It might be good enough for democrats to accept a lying tripe for president but not me.

    You seem to accept a lower bar of acceptable criminality of a presidential candidate because the only other choice you have is an old socialist and a white man.

    Lol, just pains you liberals that you don’t have diversity or youth, in your choice for president, so you’ll settle for the female with the most tainted reputation.

    This is what happens when you mess with the Clinton’s!!

    And in case you have forgotten all the other bodies this felon has left in her wake……Just a quick refresher course ‘lest we forget’ what has happened to many “friends” of the Clintons.

    1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.

    2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder happened just after she was togo public w:th her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

    3 – Vince Foster – Former White House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruleda suicide.

    4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller commited suicide.

    5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

    6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotelroom in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.

    7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

    8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

    9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

    10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..

    11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

    12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

    13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

    14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

    15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

    16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

    17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter. Investigating MenaAirport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

    18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at MenaAirport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his WashingtonDC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

    19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

    20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

    21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

    22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

    23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.

    24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

    25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

    26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.

    27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

    THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
    28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

    29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988.

    30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

    31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

    32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes”.

    33 – Jordan Kettleson – Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

    34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

    THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD
    35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
    36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds
    37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley
    38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel
    39 – Major General William Robertson
    40 – Col. William Densberger
    41 – Col. Robert Kelly
    42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes
    43 – Steve Willis
    44 – Robert Williams
    45 – Conway LeBleu
    46 – Todd McKeehan

    This doesn’t include the hacker in Europe who hacked Hillary’s server who suddenly died a couple weeks ago. Quite an impressive list!

    The public must become aware of what happens to friends of the Clintons! I would just about guarantee that this aide will soon die a mysterious death, just like all the rest of them, who had info on the Clintons.

    Or . . . The Clintons are just cursed! Which are you going to believe?

    These are facts and you can look them up. Do you still believe Burney Sanders can make it all go away ?

  51. I kind of think this. It is alarming that the intelligence community IG, working with Republicans in Congress, continues to selectively leak materials in order to resurface the same allegations and try to hurt Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

  52. 100% certainty that NBC would not report if they thought it had only superficial value. It a developing story that all networks will soon have on evening news.

  53. Lisa N
    Just copying and pasting stuff you find on the internet only qualifies you to knowing how your keyboard works.

    I quickly googled half the “dead Clinton bodyguards” on your list, and NONE of them ever were. A few ATF agents, people associated with the assault on the Branch Davidians compound, but no bodyguards. They’re not even all dead.

    Just making a bigger pile does not constitute more evidence. Get it together.

  54. “Just making a bigger pile does not constitute more evidence.”

    It is the Republican style. Watch a GOP debate. Lies, exaggerations, all the norm; if you repeat a lie often enough, idiots will believe it. The scary part is that idiots vote.

  55. Question: best guess: how widespread among senior officials is carelessness with classified information? Sure, the minions all jump through the hoops, but do the big dogs? Do senior officials in all the agencies and military follow all the annoying rules to the “t”, or do they view that those rules, just like all other rules, are just for little people?

    Note: I did not say is it illegal, or is it stupid in terms security, i asked what do the big dogs actually do.

    I can think of several names who seem to have been previously naive or casual about security when exposed by the media. Almost as if the predominant actual practice is lax, but that only matters when the PTB decide to make it matter.

  56. No one lies more than Clinton, and idiots here still support her. Self reflection isn’t part of a ideological narcissists repertoire.

  57. I object to the theme in some posts that somehow the Clinton’s (and Obama) invented Presidential lying and lawlessness. Or that Hilary invented SoS imperiousness. Please.

    That attitude is childish and at best naive, and ultimately, unhelpful.

    Of course, this notion’s bookend is the equally unsupportable idea that the Clinton’s and Obama are above such shenanigans.

  58. PhillyT -> Since you’re so smart, how about you copy and paste it into your browser. Then you let me know where I found this.

    1st. You don’t want to give credit to a woman for intelligent research.

    2nd. If you’re so sure I copied and paste it, then find my Fox News source, which most liberals think.

    You’re ridiculous because you can’t handle truth so you insult your way out of debate. So damned predictable of you.

  59. For Paul C. Schulte –
    I was in the “military industrial complex” my whole working career, and was involved with classified documents all the time. Countless times, there were lengthy classified documents in which only ONE PARAGRAPH actually contained any classified or sensitive information, and that sensitive information was often just one number. However, the whole document had to have headers marked at the classification of that one paragraph. So I have indeed seen many cases where the classified headers were stripped off of pages with only unclassified paragraphs, and the results photocopied or faxed. If this were to be prosecuted as a crime, probably 95% of defense contractor employees (and their counterparts in DoD) would be in jail.

    Beyond that, even much of the stuff that was “sensitive” was only debatably so. You must be aware that many studies and commenters throughout the years have complained about the excessive use of classification. But nobody was to rock the boat, and instead plays safe by classifying anything and everything.

    A lot of the harangs in this thread could be simply boiled down to “I hate the Clintons and always will.”

  60. Enough of these damn emails. The news media reports that the GOP “establishment” is now going back The Donald because they don’t like the Cruz guy. Jeso. Karl Rove will be our next Ambassador to the UN in the next administration. Palin will be Secretary of State. Andy Cohen will be Secretary of Health and Human Services. Who is he? Rubio will be VP.

  61. BarkinDog: And the photos on our currency will be replaced with Lucille Ball and Ricky Ricardo.

    Jay: You are right on.

    Lots of slime in the sewer. Is it because that woman got to messing in a man’s work instead of baking cookies for the DAR? Where’s my dog whistle?

  62. Jay S – the classified document that had the header stripped off was the meeting schedule for a classified meeting. This was not one of those, well nobody is going to know the difference, kind of thing. Now the IG had to be read in to a new level of secrecy to read the Special Access Material which had to have the headers stripped to get on Hillary’s server. This is a whole new level of bad.

  63. Lisa N

    “Just copying and pasting stuff you find on the internet only qualifies you to knowing how your keyboard works.”

    “Who are you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?” – Anonymous

    I haven’t heard such silliness since Johnny Cochran foolishly assumed the authority to tell us to ignore the overwhelming evidence against O.J. Simpson. We were too stupid to assess that evidence correctly, as only he was capable.

    This opposition is oozing with bias, incoherence and irrationality. The only disposition is to completely ignore it.

    This regurgitated pabulum is so ridiculous I could curse. But then you wouldn’t be able to read this comment because the censors would remove it.

    The spinmeisters become so discombobulated inside, their crania are compelled to violently expel their contents regardless of veracity or coherence.

    A legend in his own mind.

    It just gets silly.

  64. BarkinDog

    “Enough of these damn emails.”

    I’ll bet that’s what Richard Nixon was saying about his White House tapes, huh?

    Sorry, Hills. It’s time to pay the piper.

  65. Lisa N,

    You must bear the slings and arrows of the recipients of affirmative action, welfare, social services, Obamacare and all the various and sundry forms of “free stuff.”

    Freedom and Self-Reliance are incomprehensible anathema to them.

    They will support their donors and benefactors to the end; they have to.

  66. John -> Touché! When everyone is treated the same, with the same standards and rules, it is not discrimination. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights speaks of equal opportunity but not equal results. In life, some people are going to excel and some are going to be average. Some are going to be below average and some are going to fail. That’s the reality.

    The problem is, when they fail, they scream racism or misogyny or anti gay . . . etc. They never take the responsibility of not only their own actions, but the result of those actions. It’s easier to blame and deflect. Then when you call them down on it, they attack and demonize the one or group who shines the light on their bs.

    These people are so scared of Donald Trump being elected because they know the gravy train will end and your azz is going to work and I cannot wait !!!!

  67. Lisa,
    I did start copying and pasting the list of names you posted, and that’s when I realized that you either intentionally misled people with your post, or that you had copied it from someone else.

    So, if in fact you did not copy and paste it from elsewhere, then the obvious fabrications must be your own, no?

    Nice work and so completely predictable for you to intermix a few facts with a lot of vague insinuation with a smattering of lies and out and out BS.

    I love it that Sarah Palin has endorsed the Donald because now people who thought maybe he had something intelligent to say (mixed in with all his jingoism and misogyny) have realized that he hooked up with the half-term grifter who sank John McCain and they will run away from him with all due speed.

    FeelTheBern baby.

  68. Olly writes, “What would it say about our current system if Clinton can commit such gross violations of national security and seriously be considered for President? If she walks on this then what precedent is set for future violations from any one else? What a great way to commit espionage.”

    (I responded with something to the effect that this would also apply to the War Powers Act.)

    If she’s this arrogant in flaunting her mishandling of sensitive State Department communications, then she won’t be afraid to violate the War Powers Act either. I don’t think that’s a stretch of logic.

    Trump’s the same way though. If he’s arrogant enough to say we need to ban Muslims from crossing the border and that Mexicans are criminals and rapists (not all, just many), then imagine how much of an iota he”ll give with respect to notifying Congress of military operations elsewhere.

    And all Presidents have been abusing their War Powers Act authority as if violations are precedent rather than unlawfulness. Congress declares war, not the President.

    It’s amazing we’d even consider these folks for office. They’re over the top. Once they’re in, we’ve no one to blame but ourselves.

  69. Paul,
    You are right that McCain sunk himself, in that he exposed his ignorance and poor judgement in picking the professional know-nothing 1/2 term grifta-from-Wasilla. His bad temper, war-mongering and ridiculous behavior didn’t help either.

  70. dougkinan: Okay, so does that make it proper? In other words, if Trump doesn’t know what’s going on, he’s selectively blind.

    This is about the US trampling on land and people that it doesn’t own. What’s there to know otherwise that would make his comment less than absolutely outrageous?

    All we’ve done since the Berlin Wall came down is bully and bully more, with lots of lives lost.

  71. Steve:

    I’m not understanding your entire response. The “we” I’m talking about is the government, not Trump. The government is looking the other way, intentionally so.

    Trump is speaking up for the government’s failure to find out what’s going on.

    However, I do agree with you on bullying.

    dougkinan@yahoo.com

  72. Whatever will the parasites do when the playing field is actually level, not tilted in their direction?

    Oops. That’s the same as saying 1789 – the last time Americans were free.

    And instead of an artificial welfare state, including affirmative action, there was only self-reliance.

    One can understand how that idea is far too shocking to contemplate.

  73. stevegroen wrote: “This is about the US trampling on land and people that it doesn’t own. What’s there to know otherwise that would make his comment less than absolutely outrageous?”

    Steve, if we were not fighting them over there, we would be fighting them here, in New York City, San Bernardino, Fort Hood, etc. The 9/11 attack made that perfectly clear. Where would you rather the zealots fight us? Here or overseas?

  74. Think it was in the 1970’s Church Committee Reports where the investigators concluded essentially “when everything is secret, nothing is secret” [not verbatim].

    The point they were making is when there is fraudulent and excessive secrecy, you can’t separate the jewels from the toothbrush – you also can’t have American democracy and self-government with excessive secrecy.

    Maybe let’s restore the constitutional “rule of law” first before pointing fingers at Clinton for a lesser offense!

  75. And the Marine Lance Corporal who mistakenly leaves a “Secret” document on the bench at the local Burger King on the way back from the Pentagon to HQMC? Is that a whitewashable offense from which he should be able to maintain his job as a handler of classified material?

    Jus’ sayin’.

  76. Probably 99% of everything stamped SECRET is done so to avoid oversight and accountability by the voters. Most of this non-sense has absolutely nothing to do with national security or protecting people.

    Let’s fix that first!

  77. RB, would you mind letting us in on what was in these email? Since it had nothing to do with national security and you seem to know its contents. Did you know it’s just as bad and almost as punishable to over use any one of several TSSA headers. It slows down communication channels, requires special couriers, and adds to the double layer of security required for this level of communication. Every piece requires triple safe, I.e. A locked safe, inside a locked or guarded room, inside a secure facility. It requires a person with the packet locked to his body during transport. This bathroom server at the Clinton ranch did not come close to meeting the standards set by folks who dedicate their lives to safeguard out national secrets. The fact that HRC never saw, sent, read, or ordered sent documents to or from her home server is of no consequence. She took the responsibility of the safe, the locked room, and the secure facility when she decided to circumvent SOP. Also, anyone in her organization who took it on theirselves to remove a banner puts the blame right back on her shoulders. Richard Nixon did not break into the Watergte hotel but, well you know the outcome.

  78. RB, I agree that we should fix the law which permits overuse of classifications, but I have a problem with a bureaucrat deciding for herself whether to follow it.

    There are a whole lot of folks who wouldn’t be able to get away with that. Why whitewash it for Slick Hillie?

    Is she too big to fail?

  79. david writes, “‘stevegroen wrote: ‘This is about the US trampling on land and people that it doesn’t own. What’s there to know otherwise that would make his comment less than absolutely outrageous?’ Steve, if we were not fighting them over there, we would be fighting them here, in New York City, San Bernardino, Fort Hood, etc. The 9/11 attack made that perfectly clear. Where would you rather the zealots fight us? Here or overseas?”

    I’d agree your statement is true if we remain there. However, if we were to remove ourselves and our control from the Middle East, my sense is your statement would be untrue. This is about our possession, custody and control of land to which we’re not entitled, obligated, nor ordained to control. Those who live there want us out, just as we’d want trespassers off our land and our way of life.

  80. 1) Every administration “selectively” leaks information that benefits them so where do we start?

    2) Every administration “selectively” prosecutes leakers that leak information that doesn’t benefit them.

    3) As I understand the process, each individual agency has individual rules. There is not an agency that
    solely focuses on national security standards for all agencies.

    4) The rules for each agency are so complicated and burdensome that nobody understands the rules – so
    bureaucrats simply over-classify things that should never be secret.

    5) Right now there has been an excessive and unprecedented abuse of the “Espionage Act of 1917” and
    Executive Order 12333 was written before the internet existed.

    What I don’t understand is why we haven’t criminally prosecuted war crimes and domestic spying after 9/11 (of both parties) since there is overwhelming evidence?

  81. I wonder how Nixon felt when he saw the evidence mounting and heard the voices.

    It must have been a very difficult period for his supporters and apologists.

  82. A “temporary ban until we find out what’s going on.” My assumption is that those with security clearances above my pay grade know what is going on and I trust they have the good judgment to protect the interests of the United States. Beware of wild-eyed, loose-lipped politicians!

  83. FogdogSF – if you assume that those above your security clearance level know what is going on you are badly mistaken. Sadly, they are often the last people who know what is happening.

  84. PhillyT, hey, you try getting out there on the sidelines in pumps and cashmere sweater while the players are cussin’ and spittin’ and try to act all executive. It’s real chores!

  85. Phutch,

    “RB, would you mind letting us in on what was in these email? Since it had nothing to do with national security and you seem to know its contents.”

    Looks the Hills did some serious damage according to this article:

    “If true, the latest revelation about Hillary Clinton’s secret e-mail system goes way beyond “smoking gun.” It reaches the level of full core meltdown when it comes to US national security and the safety of American intel sources. Fox News reporters Catherine Herridge report that the Inspector General has noted that information in one or more e-mails contained information classified as “HCS-O,” denoting extraordinarily sensitive material that could put a human intel source at high risk if exposed:

    At least one of the emails on Hillary Clinton’s private server contained extremely sensitive information identified by an intelligence agency as “HCS-O,” which is the code used for reporting on human intelligence sources in ongoing operations, according to two sources not authorized to speak on the record.”

    Ooo! “…human intelligence sources in ongoing operations,…”

    That can’t be good, Hills.

    I hope they’re warming up that prison cell.

  86. “I look horrible in cashmere and I have weak ankles. Plus I dislocated a shoulder the last time I got into a drunken brawl. What a crew!”

    Perhaps you should try politics. No heavy lifting, you don’t have to know much, and the pay is not bad for about 150 days a year. Plus, when you are not working you can be tour guide, a tutor, or a barista – or something.

  87. BFM
    “Perhaps you should try politics…”

    Forgot to mention I have a weak stomach as well.

    But you’re right, and you forgot to mention the gold-standard health coverage for life. Hmmm, maybe I should.

  88. PCS,

    That’s the LEVEL playing field without any tilt on any axis;

    Unless the Founders established government of the parasites, by the parasites, for the parasites.

    Let me check.

    Nope. It says Americans have the right to private property and that if said private property is taken by the government, compensation must be provided. Every penny taken for any and all forms of redistribution must be reimbursed to the taxpayers. Redistribution of wealth is impossible under the U.S. Constitution.

    Oops. Looks like welfare, affirmative action and the entire redistributive welfare state is void and must be rescinded.

    The parasites fought the War on Poverty for $22 trillion over 5 decades.

    Payback’s a —–!

  89. New York Post –

    “Clinton originally denied that any of her emails contained classified information, but soon abandoned that claim. So far, 150 emails containing classified information have been identified on her server, including two that included information determined to be Top Secret.

    She then fell back on the claim that none of the emails in question was “marked classified” at the time she was dealing with them. The marking is not what makes the material classified; it’s the nature of the information itself. As secretary of state, Clinton knew this, and in fact she would have been re-briefed annually on this point as a condition of maintaining her clearance to access classified information.

    Then there’s location. Clinton knowingly set up her email system to route 100 percent of her emails to and through her unsecured server (including keeping copies stored on the server). She knowingly removed such documents and materials from authorized locations (her authorized devices and secure government networks) to an unauthorized location (her server).

    Two examples demonstrate this point.

    When Clinton would draft an email based on classified information, she was drafting that email on an authorized Blackberry, iPad or computer. But when she hit “send,” that email was knowingly routed to her unsecured server — an unauthorized location — for both storage and transfer.

    Additionally, when Clinton moved the server to Platte River Networks (a private company) in June 2013, and then again when she transferred the contents of the server to her private lawyers in 2014, the classified materials were in each instance again removed to another unsecured location.

    Next we have the lack of proper authority to move or hold classified information somewhere, i.e., the “unauthorized location.”

    While it’s possible for a private residence to be an “authorized” location, and it’s also possible for non-government servers and networks to be “authorized” to house and transfer classified materials, there are specific and stringent requirements to achieve such status. Simply being secretary of state didn’t allow Clinton to authorize herself to deviate from the requirements of retaining and transmitting classified documents, materials and information.

    There is no known evidence that her arrangement to use the private email server in her home was undertaken with proper authority.

    Finally, there’s the intent to “retain” the classified documents or materials at an unauthorized location.

    The very purpose of Clinton’s server was to intentionally retain documents and materials — all emails and attachments — on the server in her house, including classified materials.

    The intent required is only to undertake the action, i.e., to retain the classified documents and materials in the unauthorized fashion addressed in this statute. That’s it.

    It borders on inconceivable that Clinton didn’t know that the emails she received, and more obviously, the emails that she created, stored and sent with the server, would contain classified information.

    Simply put, Mrs. Clinton is already in just as bad — or worse — of a legal situation than Petraeus faced.”

  90. New York Post:

    “Clinton and her top aides had access to a Pentagon-run classified network that goes up to the Secret level, as well as a separate system used for Top Secret communications.

    The two systems — the Secret Internet Protocol Router Network (SIPRNet) and Joint Worldwide Intelligence Communications System (JWICS) — are not connected to the unclassified system, known as the Non-Classified Internet Protocol Router Network (NIPRNet). You cannot e-mail from one system to the other, though you can use NIPRNet to send ­e-mails outside the government.

    Somehow, highly classified information from SIPRNet, as well as even the super-secure JWICS, jumped from those closed systems to the open system and turned up in at least 1,340 of Clinton’s home e-mails — including several the CIA earlier this month flagged as containing ultra-secret Sensitive Compartmented Information and Special Access Programs, a subset of SCI.

    SAP includes “dark projects,” such as drone operations, while SCI protects intelligence sources and methods.

    Fox News reported Friday that at least one of Clinton’s e-mails included sensitive information on spies.

    “It takes a very conscious effort to move a classified e-mail or cable from the classified systems over to the unsecured open system and then send it to Hillary Clinton’s personal e-mail account,” said Raymond Fournier, a veteran Diplomatic Security Service special agent. “That’s no less than a two-conscious-step process.”

    He says it’s clear from some of the classified e-mails made public that someone on Clinton’s staff essentially “cut and pasted” content from classified cables into the messages sent to her. The classified markings are gone, but the content is classified at the highest levels — and so sensitive in nature that “it would have been obvious to Clinton.” Most likely the information was, in turn, e-mailed to her via NIPRNet.

    To work around the closed, classified systems, which are accessible only by secure desktop workstations whose hard drives must be removed and stored overnight in a safe, Clinton’s staff would have simply retyped classified information from the systems into the non-classified system or taken a screen shot of the classified document, Fournier said. “Either way, it’s totally illegal.”

    Clinton’s defense – that she never received anything marked classified – is true if you believe that she didn’t notice that at least some of the information in the emails were top secret. How could she not have realized that this was incredibly sensitive information?

    Top Secret/SCI e-mails received by Clinton include a 2012 staff ­e-mail sent to the then-secretary containing investigative data about Benghazi terrorist suspects wanted by the FBI and sourcing a regional security officer. They also include a 2011 message from Clinton’s top aides that contains military intelligence from United States Africa Command gleaned from satellite images of troop movements in Libya, along with the travel and protection plans for Ambassador Christopher Stevens, who was later killed in a terrorist attack in Benghazi.

    “Receiving Top Secret SAP intelligence outside secure channels is a mortal sin,” said Chris Farrell, director of investigations for Judicial Watch, the Washington-based public law firm that has successfully sued State for Clinton’s e-mails.

    “A regular government employee would be crucified, and they are, routinely,” added Farrell, who as a former Army counterintelligence agent investigated such violations.

    It would not surprise me if Hillary Clinton’s attorneys weren’t already talking to prosecutors about a plea deal. Based on what we know, it’s ridiculous for Clinton to continue to insist she’s innocent. The evidence is overwhelming, And the same goes for Clinton aides Huma Abedin, Cheryl Mills, and Jake Sullivan. They’re all complicit.

    The only remaining question is whether any of them will go to jail.”

  91. If Obama orders Comey and Lynch to ignore or destroy evidence, or to “re-interpret” the law and not indict

    Hillary Clinton, the Congress will have a duty to impeach the entire DOJ for high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

    But then, Congress had reason to impeach Obama and the Supreme Court and it did nothing.

    Negligence, dereliction and cowardice are the traits of the Repubocrats and Demolicans in Congress.

    The “ruling class” knows which side its bread is buttered on.

    _____

    Article 2, Section 4

    “The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on

    Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

  92. @bam bam “Maybe this is what Bernie the Bolshevik means, when he flaps his hands in the air, spittle flying, and cries, WE NEED A REVOLUTION???”

    Good one bam bam. I frickin’ hate Bernie Sanders.

    Bernie Sanders’ Position On Vaccination Is One Thing He & Republicans Actually Agree On
    http://www.bustle.com/articles/80212-bernie-sanders-position-on-vaccination-is-one-thing-he-republicans-actually-agree-on#!

    Yes, Bernie loves the 2nd Amendment which is great, but forget the right to medical informed consent. He is one confused individual.

  93. John, “The only remaining question is whether any of them will go to jail.”

    Politics attracts more criminals than any other profession for the simple fact that being a politician keeps them out of prison’ and the higher they are in the hierarchy the more true that is. At the higher levels they have so many “order followers” and lawyers (professional liars) who protect them the consequences of their crimes.

  94. Lisa N. That’s quite a list. Why am I not surprised?

    These are world class criminals we’re talking about. I’m telling you that politics attracts more HARD CORE criminals than any other ‘legitimate’ profession. When are people going to wake up to this fact? When are their ‘just following orders’ minions going to stop enabling these psychopaths because in my opinion THEY are the ones we should really be blaming. These people couldn’t possibly get away with their disgusting crimes without a whole network of people doing their bidding. As your list indicates these well paid boot lickers aren’t exactly in a ‘safe space’.

  95. “According to Catherine Herridge, the FBI has recovered the deleted emails.

    Did not know that.

    A fox news tweet from January 21. I don’t know why it didn’t make headlines.”

    – Anonymous

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