Prime Minister David Cameron has stated that he will step down after the historic vote yesterday for the UK voted to leave the European Union. It is a blow for President Barack Obama who put everything on the line to push the British to stay in the EU, including seriously overplaying his hand (and role) in issuing dire warnings to the British people as did other world leaders. The warnings backfired and only reaffirmed the feeling that there is now a world order that will not tolerate traditional democratic controls over national policies and practices.
Boris Johnson is likely to be the next prime minister and heralded the ability of of Britain to now pass its own laws, set its own taxes and control its own borders.
I could see both sides of this argument. I have long been uncomfortable with the shifting of governance powers to international organizations like the EU which are not subject to the same democratic pressures as a national government. The proponents scored huge points by pointing out that few people could even name the top officials in the EU.
I thought that President Obama was overbearing in his intervention in the debate, warnings that seemed to only harden the resolve of the independence movement. I can see the economic benefits of being part of the EU, though it would seem clear that close trade would necessarily have to continue. The Brits wanted control over their own laws and I am highly sympathetic to that desire. EU countries are subject to edicts that seem to come from no where on everything from cheese preparation to taxes. People felt that they no longer had a direct say on who was writing their laws and who was really leading their country. Neither Cameron nor Obama seemed to get the movement. They also continued to miss (as do the Democrats in this country) the strong sentiments over immigration.
What do you think?
Now if only we could have a vote on NAFTA, GATT, TPP, and any other trade agreement that lets a council of people we don’t know decide which of our laws, mostly related to worker conditions and the environment, are to be ignored in the name of “free trade”..
Robert Stoll sez:
> The Brits wanted control over their own laws and I am highly sympathetic to that desire
What a provincial attitude!
Nobody, even in smaller countries, think individual people have any influence over the laws that are being made in the capital.”
Not provincial at all! Look at Switzerland – they have direct democracy and yes, the people have a voice and say-so over their laws.
https://inews.co.uk/explainers/iq/switzerland-held-9-referendums-already-2016/
new definition:
the word obama means huge lie
example; he told an obama
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UK leaving EU is a big divorce case. Takes about 2 years. Any lawyers want to comment?
Lonnie says using the word ‘Obama’ is itself racist.
Hilarious.
“this Financial Times headline says it all”
Short term instability roils the markets. So what?
What actually changed?
Nothing of consequence from a market standpoint, but the Brits lost a layer of bureaucratic kudzu.
What Olly said.
Gee how were the British doing before the EU, oh fine. How will Americans do without Hilly, Obacala and the Demoncrats, oh GREAT!
So England got a taste of their own medicine over a hundred years late… But don’t think the EU will like them leaving anymore than they did when America walked.
Obama, Obama, Obama. You don’t have say the N word three times anymore. We get it. Southern Strategy. Lee Atwater is laughing up in heaven and clapping for the blog here.
Y’all know who Lee Atwater is don’t ya?
It was not just President Obama, but many others also spoke out and spoke out forcefully. You failed to mention the head of the IMF, 1200 British Business Leaders (including Richard Branson that employs 50K people in the UK) , etc. that were actually against Brexit as well. I can’t help but wonder if you implicitly condoned the ugly and despicable campaign by Nigel Farage–as revealed by the poster he unveiled on the day Jo Cox was honored in Parliament- The rise of the Far Right should be of profound concern–because Marie Le Pen and the guy in the Netherlands welcomed it as well–yet I did not see any of that here. You also did not at least mention the economic cost–which I know was dismissed by Boris Johnson–but as I write this, this Financial Times headline says it all, “…Britain plunges into constitutional crisis after vote to leave EU Pound falls to 30-year low, FTSE 100 down 4.4 per cent, BoE is monitoring development….” The viability of the UK is itself in question now–as potentially the whole European Project……
Everything Obama touches turns sour.
His “warnings” about Brexit were counterproductive.
His mocking ISIS as a “JV team” were wrong.
His complaints about bitter clingers resulted in more gun sales than in all US history.
Everything Obama does is wrong.
If he says X, bet on Y.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/12/09/us/gun-sales-terrorism-obama-restrictions-1449710314128/gun-sales-terrorism-obama-restrictions-1449710314128-articleLarge-v6.jpg
If I was a Brit I would not tolerate having the Greek shores as my southern border. If I was an American I would ask Trump to build up that Wall on the Mexican border. Different strokes for different folks. Obama did not put all his marbles into this basket. He was wrong but it won’t hurt him. I hope the northern Europeans will leave soon. We do not need Amsterdam to become a muslim city.
Prime Minister David Cameron – has no morals as told by Brits
Evidenced in response to Netanyahu’s visit to Britain
Cameron is part of the ‘Israel did 9/11’ Cover-up
https://youtu.be/fBnlVRJREIM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Owens_Thompson#/media/File:Lange-MigrantMother02.jpg
Yes!!!!
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Well, Patriot was able to make one comment w/o mentioning Israel. He’s taking baby steps.
wonder what it means for TTIP?