The controversy over the death of Keith Lamont Scott continues to get more complicated. While the family insisted that Scott was unarmed, that now appears false. Not only was a gun found at the scene but it reportedly had his DNA and fingerprints on it. Now, reports now indicate that Scott’s gun was stolen and bought illegally from the thief. In the meantime, however, protesters are now calling for the resignation of the mayor and the police chief in Charlotte.
After the family was confronted with the pictures of the gun, they insisted that Scott did not own a gun.
The gun was stolen in a burglary and the thief reportedly said that he sold the gun to Scott.
Moreover, it is now being reported that Scott was convicted of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon in 2005. He shot and injured a man in San Antonio, Texas after firing more than 10 rounds from a 9-millimeter pistol. In addition, in October 2015, Scott’s wife, Rakeyia, filed for a restraining order against him and stated in her petition that he was a threat he carried a 9-millimeter gun. He also reportedly threatened to kill the family.
As I have indicated in past coverage, the police have a strong presumption in their favor given the existing facts. If Scott was armed and clearly refused to comply with police orders, he could be seen as a sufficient threat for the use of lethal force under Tennessee v. Garner. The contradictions over Scott’s owning a weapon and his possession of the gun at the shooting strengthen the case for the police and, assuming these facts remain uncontroverted, would weaken any potential criminal prosecution.
Seems wise to stop policing in those areas entirely,.
The police cannot win.
Hillary and Obama say they are all racist anyway (“implicit bias”), and the riots occurred in Charlotte despite a black cop doing the shooting, and serving under a black police chief.
Seems wise to stop policing in those areas entirely,.
So we screw over working-class blacks to please grifters, sorosphere rent-a-crowd, the lawyer left, the lying media, and the local punks? Sounds like a plan.
Give them what they want.
I see no evidence that working-class blacks do not support BLM (see the NFL take-a-knee protests by rich blacks, and similar evidence in public schools across the country).
Sorry, they literally do not want you to be the white knight here.
And what’s this “we” stuff?
They want no cops?
Fine. Have no cops.
That is what Tommy Sotomayor says , too. Let them kill each other. That will probably happen by default, as in Baltimore.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Does it usually take DAYS for the cops to present evidence of a gun?!?
If they had it why wasn’t it reported & photographed when it happened?
If he has parents then they need to be punished for putting this thug on the streets of Charlotte. We need a penal colony.
The parents are no more the problem than those who constrain the availability of birth control/abortion.
Earlier this month the Massachusetts Supreme Court ruled that due to racial profiling concerns blacks may flee from police.
It is the logical step that for that same reasoning blacks may return fire against police as self-protection. That said, Mr Scott was only exerting his lawful right of self-protection when he failed to release his gun.
These types of deaths, accusations, protests, anger will continue until we learn how to better address learning disorders and mental illness.
vinegart – “What we know is only the police version. We can not trust the police anymore.”
Joseph Jones,
This statement is all you need to know about the BLM. Any evidence you bring up won’t matter. It’s not about the facts, it’s about feeling important and a false cause. It’s no different than trying to argue with an idiot who doesn’t believe we actually went to the moon.
Darren, The “unrest” is based on emotion, not facts or logic. All emotion.
Facts do not matter to BLM thugs. Until the next hoax….
Cops have a culture that presumes too much. They have too much power, too many activities defined as crimes, too much revenue generation by police state ( including asset forfeiture ). Look at the level of effort ( difference ) between solving a run of the mill crime and solving a cop killing.
Go Po
All fuzz aside…
Is it so hard to shoot someone in a non-lethal area of the body before you jump to murder?
How many non-lethal weapons do the police need before they learn to use them?
Information such as this brings up the point that it is better to wait until the investigation is complete before drawing uninformed decisions that lead to unrest.
Yes. Being informed never hurts, but it is dumb to try a guy based on a decade old crime. This site is unfortunately in a gradual decline from its peak years ago and the comments section is borderline Stormfront on most posts. I still enjoy your weekend posts though.
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Jones!
What we know is only the police version. We can not trust the police anymore. Specifically, they should not have killed him, especially after his wife had told the police that he had brain injury. Maybe the poor guy couldn’t hear. Ever hear of a non-lethal bean-bag? Taser?
I’m a Trump supporter, but when it comes to the police, I agree with HRC. Police are out of control, in my opinion.
That OK lady cop deserves the death penalty IMO.
Pray tell, exactly what should the cops have done differently in this case?
1. Cops witness apparent dope smoking (illegal) person A in a car.
2. Cops see person A has a gun (legal AFA the cops know, but we now know different…he’s a convicted felon and they are barred from gun possession).
3. Cops order A to exit car and repeat 11x to drop gun.
4. A exits car and maintains gun, walking away from cops, heading God only knows where, maybe to kill an innocent, it really does not matter.
5. Cops shoot A dead.
What should they have done different, exactly, and please be specfic?
Wait for more help with better equipment.
Wait until Scott starts shooting.
Use non-lethal robots.
Use nets.
Use lots of cameras.
Quit lying.
Make human life their #1 priority.
You don’t have a clue! Like I have said before get out there for a week and work a midnight tour you’ll change your mind fast.
I do not give a damn if he had a gun, or if he had just robbed a bank, or whatever, no one deserves to die at the hands of the police for a simple police stop like this ine. This really pisses me off because I not only carry a concealed weapon but I also carry a Remington 870, loaded, in my car. Tens of thousands like me do the very same thing, every one of whom is at risk of being mudered today by jackbooted, paranoid, ninny nanny, wussy cops who feel threatened at the site of a gun. This is not the way police used to behave, and it shouldn’t be the way police behave today. You change this irresponsible police behavior by holding them accountable, by prosecuting them like they are doing in Oklahoma to that hemorrhoid cop with an itchy trigger finger, needlessly killing an innocent man, for chrissakes. She needs to be locked up for life, in my opinion, sending a loud and clear message to all the paranoid cops who have absolutely zero respect for life.
I’m reminded of a term used by BLM precursors, about twenty years ago, for a man high on PCP with a long history of violent criminal behavior, while resisting arrest, who police (wrongly) beat up when they finally caught up with him: “motorist” Rodney King…like he was just driving home from Sunday School, minding his own business, bringing groceries to his grand ma.
Also remembering how peace loving blacks, in the subsequent riots, dragged from his truck and severely beat up a man for the crime of being white.
If the KKK and/or White Supremacists rioted and committed similar violent crimes as did blacks in Charlotte recently, would MSM call it “protest?” (Purely rhetorical, I hope you realize.)
Even if all the above is true, there remains the question of why the police escalated a confrontation that they precipitated. With a close family member at the scene, her help could have been sought to de-escalate the situation. Instead, the police seemed intent on exercising their positions of authority without regard to the life of Scott even after they were told he had had a traumatic brain injury for which he was taking medication. The police had no way to know at the time that the possession of a gun by Scott might be unlawful under NC’s open carry law because they did not know about Scott’s possible criminal history until after he was dead. It appears to me that Scott’s life was a black life that did not matter. Now those who troll this site can start hurling their invective.
“Now those who troll this site can start hurling their invective.”
No need to hurry the ineluctable, Lamar. It is coming…as surely as the cop would shoot a black man for no reason!
Lamar Hankins – I live in an open carry state and we have to surrender our weapon when pulled over. We get it back after the ticket. Scott probably had the same option.
“Probably” is the key word in your comment above, Paul.
Do the cops lie who state they saw your hero lighting up what appeared to be a joint? When cops witness apparent crime (dope’s illegal in NC), do you suggest they selectively decide to ignore some crimes, and enforce others? Which crimes fall in each category? Does each cop just decide on their own?
Even in legal states for weed, it’s only legal in private, not in public, just like drinking alcohol in public is illegal everywhere AFAIK.
Should the cops not have investigated your dope smoking hero? Upon investigating, they see the gun. Open carry gun is legal, but here’s a suspected criminal carrying a gun, and they rightly tell him to exit the car and drop the gun.
Pray tell, so far, what’s wrong in the above scenario, which is exactly what I saw on the video? When he does not drop the gun, should they let him leave and just walk home? Should they beg pretty please? What if your hero turned around and shot an innocent while aiming at God knows what?
Please list exactly what should cops have done in this specific case when a suspected criminal refuses to drop his gun?
Joseph you did not see the gun in his hand. I know this because I too have watched all the videos thus far released. Not one of them clearly establishes that a gun was in his hand. I am not saying this to claim that he had no gun. I point this out because you appear to be claiming to have actually seen something that is not clearly visible in any of the videos. Perhaps he did have a gun in his hand. But the only evidence upon which one could infer that a gun was in his hand would be from hearing the officers repeatedly order him to drop the gun. From what I could see in the video Scott’s arms and hands were at his side the entire time he was backing away from the vehicle and the officers. If he had a gun in one of his hands it does not appear that he raised his hands in any gesture to indicate that he was about to fire at the officers.
Even if you don’t have a gun, they use the phrase, so it is heard on tape and conversation, an excuse to shoot someone!
@Lamar
You said, “With a close family member at the scene, her help could have been sought to de-escalate the situation.”
Huh? She was too busy filming it to give a darn about her husband. Gettng attention was more important than her husband living.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
When I first read the heading I thought the gun had been stolen after the shooting.
Everything has pointed to his having a gun, not a book. It was suspicious when no one put a title to the book.
The book was his well-thumbed copy of the Baltimore Catechism. (And my, how Baltimore has changed! Take note, those who think demographics don’t matter….)
True! Look what some sarcastic wag put on Twitter 🙂 :
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtEipvRW8AIWC4s.jpg
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Squeeky – berry punny, berry punny.
Nope! North Carolina is an open carry state, Scott was in his car, no witnesses saw a gun in his hand, only one anonymous source claimed not only that Scott had a gun but that the gun was stolen.
So whatever actions lead to Scott being targeted then murdered are only justifiable using facts that are NOT related to the case. If indeed Scott had those flaws in his resume, the cops were ignorant of them as they stalked, trapped and shot him.
So trying to justify the illegal killing of a man using events in his past life would make everyone of us justifiably shot.
Did you forget the obligatory “/sarc off” at the end of your post?
Weed’s illegal in NC. The cops spotted this dead dope lighting one up. They approached him committing an apparent crime, saw the gun, told him to exit the car and drop the gun, he disobeyed, he died of lead poisoning. Should I type slower for you?
Next case, please.
Taking bets, presuming his family gets the pleasure of not having to deal with this scum bag, and the city pays out zilch.
PS: nobody’s justifying anything. Why do you think your hero’s dead? Was he the first black guy the cops spotted that day to shoot?
Convicted felon–carrying stolen gun–ignoring police orders–possible illegal drug use–not the pious angel coming home from choir practice on his way to feed the poor–of course he balked, for he knew he was going down again as a convicted felon–all in all, a justified shoot under Garner !! DMD
Wife should be happy, for she and lawyer Crump have won the lottery and hit the jackpot !!! How much will be the piñata payoff–I figure 3-5 million–but then add in a few more millions for all of dose pore l’il orfins forced to suffer on thru this difficult life wifout dere dear ded daddy to guide, support, and teach dem how to survive in the cruel fatherless world that now awaits dem !! DMD