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Not Feeling The Bern: Recent Polls Shows Sanders Is The Most Popular Politician In America

BernieSandersAs we have previously discussed, this election has become a hate fest as both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton who seem to be trying to get people to vote against their opponent rather than vote for them. These remain the two least popular candidates in the history of presidential politics. It is a bizarre campaign as Republicans selected the only person who could lose to Clinton and Democrats selected the only person who could lose to Trump. In the meantime, a recent poll shows that Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders now stands as the most popular politician in the United States. If Clinton loses today, many are likely to blame DNC officials in pushing Clinton over Sanders who might have not only won the White House but swept Congress. Clinton is still favored to win but the popularity of Sanders raises the question of whether he was the crossover candidate that both parties were seeking. Of course, he has not been the target of attacks in this general election, which has left his image strongly positive. However, it is remarkable that we now have elections between people who are viewed negatively as dishonest or untrustworthy by 60 percent of voters.


While Obama’s favorable ratings have risen to his highest numbers in 45 months, Sanders is still above him. More importantly, he is 10 points higher than Hillary Clinton’s and 19 points higher than those of Donald Trump.

The question is how a hate-focused campaign can get voters out of bed and in line for hours. This is why I previously called this the “Game of Thrones election” and quoted Sandor “The Hound” Clegane, “Hate’s as good a thing as any to keep a person going. Better than most.”

129 thoughts on “Not Feeling The Bern: Recent Polls Shows Sanders Is The Most Popular Politician In America”

  3. The Clinton News Network will be eating a great deal of crow in the next few weeks. I foresee the medium waking up to the fact that the majority of Americans now favor a President-Elect the network previously vilified. Clinton may have had votes but she had greatly less actual support for her as a person. As I mentioned earlier about the news channels, money talks more than facts to several of these outlets.

    Let’s see how the newly looming and impending existential threat to the Clinton’s freedom and finance suddenly becomes the topic in the next few months. Now that she has nothing to offer the networks in terms of political spoils, her usefulness is to them of lesser importance. I believe it is more likely now the media will scrutinize her and hang her out to dry when the Clinton Foundation gets unraveled. Now that the voters kicked her to the curb, more copy can be sold by attacking Crooked Hillary and Slick Willie because America has shown its stance, and it ain’t with those two.

    1. Darren,

      “…that the majority of Americans now favor a President-Elect the network previously vilified.”

      Check out the popular vote. As of 7:00 AM, Clinton is ahead.

      1. Irrelevant.

        You need to consider Hilary’s support being at a parallax against her votes. A large portion of her votes were not in support of her, but were for the democrats or those against Trump. Whatever support she previously garnered will vaporize in the next coming days and hastened due to abandonment of her supporters who waited for her to give a speech when the electoral majority was reached earlier this morning.

  4. Jim22,

    Trump isn’t a politician–but he is definitely corrupt. And it looks as if he may lose the popular vote.

  5. Column: Can America survive President Donald Trump?
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/zorn/ct-donald-trump-wins-disaster-president-zorn-20161109-column.html

    In an electoral tantrum for the ages, angry U.S. voters have elected an impulsive, thin-skinned, ignorant con man to the presidency.

    I have serious doubts that the American experiment will survive his reign.

    The Founders were wary of demagogues and created a political system of checks and balances to weaken the chance that one would take power. That system has survived centuries of domestic and foreign tumult and the occasional election of buffoons and rascals as commander in chief, despite Alexander Hamilton’s reassurance in Federalist No. 68 that all presidents would naturally be “preeminent for ability and virtue.”

    But our republic has never been tested as it will be when Donald Trump is sworn into office. He lacks not only ability and virtue, but he also lacks a fundamental respect for the Constitution (aside from the Second Amendment), he lacks an understanding of the fine points of domestic and foreign policy and he lacks the cool temperament necessary to guide the most important nation on Earth through perilous times.

    He fans the flames of tribalism and nationalism, inspiring and comforting those with deplorable views. He purchased the support of a majority of American voters with a set of brazenly false, often contradictory promises. He praised and made common cause with brutal Russian dictator Vladimir Putin while actively undermining domestic confidence in our electoral system.

    His campaign and his personal manner were so repulsive that many top members of his own party couldn’t even bring themselves to mention his name or say if they were voting for him.

    His unfiltered expressions of anger and contempt were so dismaying that his campaign reportedly had to yank his access to Twitter in the waning days of the campaign — yet voters decided to hand him the nuclear launch codes.

    1. edm ignores where we are today and how voting in the same old corrupt politicians has led us to this point. Trump is the change we needed. Although not perfect, it is a good day for America. Maybe now we can stop bowing and show some pride in who we are. By the way, still laughing at the thought that the Queen would have been a “Constitutional” president.

  7. CORRUPTION DEFEATED !

    Congratulations DNC, you handed yourself your own downfall.

  8. CNN’s Van Jones Perfectly Explains The Pain Of A Donald Trump Victory
    “It’s hard to be a parent tonight for a lot of us.”
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/van-jones-trump-victory_us_5822bb9de4b0d9ce6fbfe95c

    CNN analyst Van Jones gave a moving explanation of the pain and fear that many Americans feel as Donald Trump appeared to be on the verge of being elected the nation’s next president.

    Jones called a Trump victory a “nightmare” and said it would be difficult for many parents to explain to their kids how a man who regularly insults and belittles others was the president-elect.

    “People have talked about a miracle ― I’m hearing about a nightmare,” Jones said on CNN. “It’s hard to be a parent tonight for a lot of us. You tell your kids, ‘Don’t be a bully.’ You tell your kids, ‘Don’t be a bigot.’ You tell your kids, ‘Do your homework and be prepared.’ Then you have this outcome, and you have people putting children to bed tonight and they’re afraid of breakfast.

    “They’re afraid of, ‘How do I explain this to my children?’ I have Muslim friends who are texting me tonight saying, ‘Should I leave the country?’ I have families of immigrants that are terrified tonight.”

  12. tnash,

    Just checking to see if you are still awake! It’s not looking good for Hillary. Oh well, now we’ll get to see what four years of “The Donald” will bring upon us. I just keep wondering what might have happened if Trump had run against Bernie Sanders.

    Here’s an excerpt from an article that you might find interesting:

    The Enablers Who Helped Donald Trump Do Incalculable Damage to America
    by Robert Reich
    http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_enablers_who_helped_donald_trump_incalculable_damage_america_20161106

    The third set of Trump enablers is at the helm of the Democratic Party.

    While Republicans played the race card to get the working class to abandon the Democratic Party, the Democrats simultaneously abandoned the working class – clearing the way for Trump.

    Democrats once represented the working class. But over the last three decades the party has been taken over by Washington-based fundraisers, bundlers, analysts, and pollsters who have focused instead on raising big money from corporate and Wall Street executives, and getting votes from upper middle-class households in “swing” suburbs.

    Democrats have occupied the White House for sixteen of the last twenty-four years, and for four of those years had control of both houses of congress. But in that time they failed to reverse the decline in working-class wages and jobs.

    Both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama ardently pushed for free trade agreements without providing millions of blue-collar workers who thereby lost their jobs means of getting new ones that paid at least as well.

    They stood by as corporations hammered trade unions, the backbone of the white working class – failing to reform labor laws to impose meaningful penalties on companies that violate them, or help workers form unions with a simple up-or-down votes.

    Partly as a result, union membership sank from 22 percent of all workers when Bill Clinton was elected president to fewer than 12 percent today, and the working class lost bargaining leverage to get a share of the economy’s gains.

    Both Clinton and Obama also allowed antitrust enforcement to ossify – with the result that large corporations have grown far larger, and major industries more concentrated.

    The unsurprisng result has been to shift political and economic power to big corporations and the wealthy, and to shaft the working class. That created an opening for demagoguery, in the form of Trump.

    Donald Trump has poisoned America, but he didn’t do it alone. He had help from opportunists in the GOP, the media, and at the highest reaches of the Democratic Party.

    The pertinent question now is: What, if anything, have these enablers learned?

  13. I’m sure many frequenters of the Turley blog are ecstatic tonight.

    *****

    Simon Rowntree ‏@SRowntreeNews 5h5 hours ago Manhattan, NY
    I am at a Trump rally in Manhattan, and thousands are chanting “We hate Muslims, we hate blacks, we want our great country back”. Disgusting
    0 replies 56,904 retweets 38,682 likes
    Reply Retweet 57K
    Like 39K
    https://twitter.com/SRowntreeNews?lang=en

    1. edm……did you check for verification on this claim?
      Or just decide that you liked
      what you saw, and roboposted?
      Other than the reading that Simon Rowntree is “a made up journalist for a made up publication”, I can’t find any information about him, if “he” exists.

  14. Mr. Turley, If you’ll get a copy of “The Enemies Within” by Trevor Loudon… he presents proof of many in our government who are entwined in the Communist Party. Mr. Sanders has a dubious past. I think you’ll find it fascinating. I found it terrifying. Thank you for what you do. Mary Syron St. Louis

    >

    1. Oh I sooo agree with you! I think when the Cold war ended, the Russians called all their sleeper agents home, and ended all the programs they were directly funding. BUT, they couldn’t turn off their “Useful Idiot Program”, because that was sort of self-directed and self-funded.

      Now, those Useful Idiots are ruining our colleges, media, and institutions. The Russians planned on just killing them when they beat us, but since they didn’t beat us, we are stuck with them.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4kHiUAjTvQ

      Squeeky Fromm
      Girl Reporter

  15. OT but funny.

    “…we are watching you… yeah, we are watching… After I spoke publicly against you, the cops sent racist white-supremacist rapists after me…. ”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP8Kas5gdos

    I was hoping for some cackling, nefarious laughter from her at the end.

    Social Justice Warriors… The gift that keeps on giving.

    Hugh Mungus story to follow.

  16. tnash,

    “No, we’ve seen the best that YOU’VE got, edm.
    That’s why you’ve established yourself as a bore.”

    I guess you really think you can insult me with your comments. You could go on all day…and still not achieve your goal.

      1. tnash,

        You and Squeeky are SOOO funny! Both of you appear to be obsessed with me. You must have boring lives.

        1. It may be a coincidence, but nearly those exact words were used before on this site by a troll with a different username.
          We may have seen the edm act before, under another trolling name.

          1. tnash,

            Please explain what other name you think I used and why you think I am a troll.

            “In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion,[3] often for their own amusement.”

            *****

            I posted nothing that was inflammatory. I posted excerpts from and links to online news articles that related to topics of discussion on this blog. Just because you disagreed with what was written in those articles does not prove that they were “inflammatory”–except maybe in YOUR mine. I guess some people just want to hear their own thoughts and opinions backed up by others here. As I noted before–sometimes the truth hurts.

            1. Keep telling yourself that, edm.
              That people here are sick of you because they “disagree” with you.
              When I have time, I might search the archives to see the username of the other anonymous troll who used strikingly similar language.

              And went out of his/her way to behave like a snotty, superior, , close-minded hack.
              Then acted like a “victim” when other were critical of those characteristics, as if the disagreement on issues prompted the criticism.
              If I waste additional time playing your games, and come up with your other troll name, you obviously won’t admit it.
              Absent access toge the the trollmobile device(s) that you use under your aliases, it’d be a further waste of time.

              1. tnash,

                You already claimed that I used another name on this blog. Now you can’t tell me what that username was?

                You still have not explained why you believe that I am a troll. I am not acting like a troll when I provide information/articles pertinent to topics of discussion on this blog. You don’t like what I have to say–or the information that I post–so I MUST be a troll!

                1. It is not especially difficult to cherry pick material that matches one’s beliefs, then posp and post and post only that material, without regard to any other material that doesn’t suit you.
                  For example, one could google “Trumpnis a liar”, find thousands of artickles, then robopost all material that fits in with extremely partisan views of the hack posting it.

                  So if one googled “Hillary is a liar”, the same goals could be accomplished.

                  Whether hundreds, or thousands, of these kinds of one directional. search results are posted by a partisan stooge, it does not change the fact that a partisan hack us deluberately ugnoring an objective view.
                  Tens of thousands of words, and hundreds of links, posted by the same hack ultimately make that partisan hack’s arguments less credible, not more believable.
                  Pointing that out to the partisan shill is a waste of time; the shill will claim to be a victim of attacks because of “disagreements.
                  Most can recognize a legimate point of view, but there is less tolerance for a proganda machine.

                  1. tnash,

                    As I said before–propaganda is in the eye of beholders such as yourself.

                    You wrote: “Whether hundreds, or thousands, of these kinds of one directional. search results are posted by a partisan stooge, it does not change the fact that a partisan hack us deliberately ugnoring an objective view.”

                    And: “Most can recognize a legitimate point of view, but there is less tolerance for a proganda machine.”

                    Say what? Did you drink too much wine with dinner?

                    2. Propaganda is in the eye of the beholder? Perhaps, but it’s still propaganda. Just ask those that survived the Nazi propaganda machine.
                      Besides to excuse a ‘situational ethics’ as ‘in the eye of the beholder’ makes your argument weak at best.

                  2. tnash,

                    Things are looking pretty good for your boy Donald. Maybe your dreams will come and he’ll be elected president. May you have sweet dreams tonight.

                    1. edm….for the first time since I voted 44 years ago, I left the top line blank.
                      I haven’t checked the news yet….I thought Clinton would win by 50+ eleltoaral
                      votes, but I’ll check it later when the dust has clea

  17. 2016’s Big Reveal
    Donald Trump is a demagogue. Period. The right’s failure to see it is a disgrace.
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/2016s-big-reveal-1478564830?emailToken=JRr8fvlyaH%2BVhtM2Z8xmjAR2dewCCuDMXF7JIXnOfxGQ6yyI/77xnP0%3D

    Someday, maybe, when I’m old and a child asks me what I remember about the awful election of 2016, I’ll say: It was the Big Reveal.

    Revealed: That the guiding spirit of the modern conservative movement is neither Burke nor Lincoln. It’s Marx. “These are my principles,” Groucho once cracked, “and if you don’t like them, well, I have others.” Everything Republicans once claimed to advocate—entitlement reform, free trade, standing up to dictators, encouraging the march of freedom around the world—turns out to be negotiable and reversible, depending on Donald Trump’s whims and the furies of his base.

    Revealed: That moral clarity and moral equivalence have become interchangeable concepts in today’s GOP. The same Republicans who pontificated throughout the 1990s about restoring honor and dignity to the Oval Office are now eager to rent that office to a man who boasts of his own sexual predations. Why? Because Bill Clinton already went there.

    Revealed: That Mr. Trump’s unrelenting and apparently irrepressible bigotry, misogyny, bullying and conspiracy-mongering won’t keep Republican leaders from supporting him, provided he mouth pieties about appointing more Scalias to the court or cutting corporate tax rates. “More common ground than disagreement,” was how House Speaker Paul Ryan justified his June endorsement of the GOP nominee, right around the time he described Mr. Trump’s slander of “Mexican” judge Gonzalo Curiel as a “textbook definition of a racist comment.” A smarter response by the speaker might have been: “You lost me at hello.”

    Also revealed: That conservatives who once took umbrage at being called racist or anti-Semitic are now happy to flirt with white nationalism. That a party of self-described strict constructionists sees nothing amiss in Mr. Trump’s call to rewrite the 14th Amendment. That the ability of Mr. Trump and his supporters to hurl insults at their critics is only exceeded by their exquisite sensitivity when they are insulted back. That a reset with Russia is a fiasco when executed by Hillary Clinton but evidence of fresh foreign-policy thinking when proposed by Mr. Trump.

      1. Autumn,

        Oh my, you are causing me great concern. It breaks my little ole heart to know that you find me to be a bore yawn.

        BTW, what, pray tell, is a “bore yawn?”

        1. Someone who doesn’t have enemies.

          “So you have enemies. Good. You must have stood up for something, sometime in your life.”
          – Winston S. Churchill

          1. Steve,

            Evidently, I have offended Autumn. I should have been aware that she has tender sensibilities. I should never have disagreed with anything she said.

              1. Squeeky,
                You posted before I finished typing, before I saw your post.
                It’s too late now, but Trumpbsupporters could have used this guy in their campaign.
                After listening to edm’s self righteous marathons, they’d think all Hillary shills were obnoxious gasbags.

                1. Oh, I know!

                  Plus, I wonder where all the outraged Democrats are after GaGa’s strutted her obvious neo-Nazi outfit at an HRC rally??? They are really into all that symbolism stuff, sooo where is the strident NYTs editorial, and the dozens of echo editorials following suit?

                  Why isn’t SWM here, huffing and puffing about that? She got sooo indignant at alleged Nazi salutes at Trump rallies. Heck, there is no if, ands, and buts about Lady GaGa’s SS Mistress outfit. She walked, she talked, she goosestepped across the stage like a reptile!

                  Squeeky Fromm
                  Girl Reporter

            2. Plenty of room for disagreement.
              But not endless patience for an intellectually dishonest partisan hack who does endless electioneering by flooding this site with endless comments and links on one subject.
              That’s why people find you boring.

              2. tnash,

                Yes, some folks easily lose patience with people who have opinions different from theirs.

                1. Differing opinions are not the cause of people losing patience with you, edm.
                  It’s the fact that you’re a one nite gasbag that causes the loss of patience, and interest.

                  1. tnash,

                    Having a different opinion from yours…or Squeeky’s…or Autumn’s is most definitely the reason I have been called a bore and a gasbag and intellectually dishonest–in addition to other things. That’s the best you got.

      2. @Autumn

        I am reposting this on this page in case you missed it on the other. I combined several days Outis P related posts on Naked Capitalism into one readable pdf file for ease of use. Here is a link to it. It’s like 36 pages, and the subject matter and references would be over most people’s heads, but I think you (and several others here) are somebody(s) who can appreciate it. I love the Zootopia Chapters!

        https://t.co/zl1966J1Gb

        Squeeky Fromm
        Girl Reporter

      1. tnash,

        That’s right…because they will get the correct answer. They may then ask a different question.

      2. Yeah, can you imagine a kid asking edm for an Oreo cookie??? Sheeesh, the little rug rat would get a lecture on racial dynamics, the History of Slavery and Great White Shark Migration Patterns, micro-aggressions, and after about 3 hours the kid might get one, but only if he called it an Interracial Harmony Symbol, or something.

        Squeeky Fromm
        Girl Reporter

  20. Squeeky and Autumn are correct. Put in a store of food like the Mormons do. The peasant farmers of Germany acquired most of the art treasures after the 1920-1922 super inflation post WW1. You can’t eat most collectibles.

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