There was an interesting recent interview of President Barack Obama by the German media giant Der Spiegel. In the interview, President Obama insisted that he could not pardon Edward Snowden as a matter of constitutional law. He is manifestly wrong. While the President may not want to pardon someone who deeply embarrassed him and his Administration, he is entirely capable of pardoning Snowden who is widely viewed as a whistleblower.
Here is the exchange in pertinent part:
ARD/SPIEGEL: Are you going to pardon Edward Snowden?
OBAMA: I can’t pardon somebody who hasn’t gone before a court and presented themselves, so that’s not something that I would comment on at this point. I think that Mr. Snowden raised some legitimate concerns. How he did it was something that did not follow the procedures and practices of our intelligence community. If everybody took the approach that I make my own decisions about these issues, then it would be very hard to have an organized government or any kind of national security system.
At the point at which Mr. Snowden wants to present himself before the legal authorities and make his arguments or have his lawyers make his arguments, then I think those issues come into play. Until that time, what I’ve tried to suggest — both to the American people, but also to the world — is that we do have to balance this issue of privacy and security. Those who pretend that there’s no balance that has to be struck and think we can take a 100-percent absolutist approach to protecting privacy don’t recognize that governments are going to be under an enormous burden to prevent the kinds of terrorist acts that not only harm individuals, but also can distort our society and our politics in very dangerous ways.
And those who think that security is the only thing and don’t care about privacy also have it wrong.
This is simply incorrect — as is known to anyone who remembers the fact that Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon before he had been indicted.
And it appears that the President knows this. Because, as the Pardon Snowden campaign points out, Obama pardoned three Iranian Americans who had not yet stood trial. That happened this year. So for him to say it’s impossible to pardon someone who hasn’t gone before the court is simply, factually, historically wrong.
If this were true, President Gerald Ford could never have pardoned Richard Nixon who was not charged with any crime. Nixon did not go “before a court and presented” himself. The case law is quite clear on this point. In 150 Ex Parte Garland (1865), the Supreme Court considered a law that requiring a loyalty oath be recited by any Federal court officer affirming that the officer had never served in the Confederate government. It effectively barred former confederates from such positions, including Augustus Hill Garland (right), an attorney and former Confederate Senator from Arkansas. Garland had received a pardon from President Andrew Johnson and the Court ruled 5-4 that the law was a bill of attainder and an ex post facto law. The Court ruled:
The power of pardon conferred by the Constitution upon the President is unlimited except in cases of impeachment. It extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment. The power is not subject to legislative control.
Moreover, President Obama is no doubt fully aware that Snowden has no defense to make in court since the Espionage Act does not contain a whistleblower defense.
Clearly, the President can have objections on the merits to a pardon. There are certainly many people in Washington who despise Snowden for exposing the massive surveillance system. The Obama Administration was rocked by the disclosures and there are likely few advocates within the Administration for helping Snowden in any fashion. The decision not to pardon Snowden however will be dictated by the President and not the Constitution.
Thus, if there is a constitutional version of the Pinocchio fact checker test, this would receive five Nixons for misreading the Constitution and its history in the statement “I can’t pardon somebody who hasn’t gone before a court and presented themselves.”
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I am hearing our enemies, the Zionists & Neocons, are somewhat divided over Trump. This is good for us.
They see him as a loose cannon.
Patriot – I don’t think he is so much a loose cannon as they don’t know what caliber cannon he is yet. Obama was a popgun.
Judicial Watch Calls for Trump Administration Investigation of Hillary Clinton
Patriot – Judicial Watch has done the dirty work on this investigation. Without them there would be no email scandal. I wish them luck. I have heard there are some in the FBI and DOJ who want to go after her. Also there are the possibilities of state charges.
Donald Trump’s Flip-Flop on Hillary Clinton Prosecution Outrages Supporters
I can only go by deeds today.
1.) Trump is back-pedaling on Clinton prosecution, lying to the people of campaign promise. Also she is a War Criminal.
2.) AG pick War Criminal neocon Jeff Sessions, talking to other neocons of being in cabinet.
He has earned his swastiaka for today
I hope he can earn taking the swastiaka off.
Pardon Me? Obama Wrongly States That He Cannot Pardon Edward Snowdon
Please allow me to point out the blatantly obvious:
Obama is a dissembling/duplicitous bought and paid for political hack who puts the interests of Wall Street and defense contractors before the needs of American citizens to be properly informed of their governments criminal/unconstitutional actions.
Donald Trump: I’ll Prosecute Hillary Clinton as President
Is Trump taking lying lessons from Obama? He has a long way to go to beat the biggest liar of world history.
Let’s see… he wants to look forward, not backward with regards to massive U.S. / Israeli War Crimes and 9/11.
W’s first term on steroids I say. One difference is Bush was not interested in making money off the presidency.
But it appears he is making many of the Zionist neocons / establishment uneasy. They don’t know what he will do as to their 9/11 involvement and War Crimes.
He did call their media liars publicly.
I hate to say this but Trump is looking like a Bush Neocon Liar!
Trump back-pedaled on the Obama birth certificate.
It is a widely known forgery.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/22/us/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-investigation.html No reason for Obama to pardon Clinton now as there will be no new charges. He should focus on the pardoning of Chelsea Manning.
Trump gave Clinton a Thanksgiving bouquet.
harrison – I did not know there was something as a Thanksgiving bouquet. Thanks for the info.
Political prisoners don’t stand much chance of being pardoned. Any president who does may find his security missing at an unfortunate time.
Kelly Anne Conway made the statement live on Morning Joe.
President-elect Trump does not plan to pursue charges against Hillary Clinton for her personal email server, Kellyanne Conway says.
Donald Trump: I’ll Prosecute Hillary Clinton as President
Is Trump running an illusion trying to avoid pardon for Clinton.. waiting till he is sworn in? She is guilty as sin for innumerable crimes. Trump will be too as an accomplice.
Why is he choosing Neocon War Criminals for his cabinet? This is what Obama did.
There is still the ongoing investigation of the GCI. The results of that investigation could result in the IRS canceling their tax exempt status, which would raise huge opportunities to find out exactly who donated and how much, as those donations could become a TAXABLE event.
That, IMO, is the huge albatross hanging around the Clinton’s neck, including Chelsie who, according to reports, received monies for living expenses and her wedding – both in violation of the IRS rules for charitable organizations. And I use that term lightly as applied here.
Is Trump going to charge Hillary Clinton with something else?
Patriot – would you believe the Clinton News Network regarding Trump?
You have a point there.
It is hard to believe any of them.
On CSPAN: Architects and Engineers Explain Why 9/11 was a Controlled Demolition Event
3 TOWERS WERE DESTROYED BY CONTROLLED DEMOLITION ON 9/11
Interview with architect Richard Gage representing 2712 Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth
U.S. Governments / Courts / Media are Covering Up Evidence of this Mass Murder and Maiming. They are complicit
Obama’s Birth Certificate is a Forgery
Fmr. Arizona Sheriff Richard Mack:
“The birth certificate released by Mr. Obama in the White House is a fake, a fraud and a lie.”
Obama Was Never Eligible to be President
According to our Constitution Obama never qualified as a ‘Natural Born Citizen’ for the office of Presidency
by Dr. Herbert W. Titus, counsel to the law firm of William J. Olson, P.C.
Patriot: While the natural-born (meaning two citizen parents) argument has merit in that at the time the federal Constitution was drafted the Law of Nations had a similar definition of natural-born citizen (and there’s evidence delegates at the Constitutional Convention referred to the Law of Nations in drafting the Constitution), you then have to convince SCOTUS that the 14th Amendment’s soil citizenship didn’t supersede the Law of Nations’ definition.
On the other hand, a couple of Trump nominees to the Supreme Court might prove Mr. Titus right.
He lies. This is news?
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