
The Clinton campaign still had $839,000 on hand as of Nov. 28.
Of Trump’s fund, he personally contributed $66 million from his own pocket. He had estimated that he would spent $100 million but apparently was able to score a savings of $34 million in grabbing the win.
What is interesting is that, despite $1.2 billion, Democratic leaders are saying that there is no need for a change in leadership or direction for the party because the problem was not educating voters enough. That is a record amount spent on messaging and campaigning but was still not enough against one of the most controversial candidates in U.S. history and someone who spent half of what Clinton spent per vote.
On election day we really only had 2 choices. It’s like playing 5 card stud. You are dealt 5 cards and those are the cards that you play with.
Exactly. All I’m saying is that Trump was the better choice in this election. If the Democrats wanted to run a better candidate, they could have. The Republicans got exactly the candidate who could fight and win against the Clinton machine. The voters chose correctly. God bless America.
Why did the rich get richer and the poor get poorer under Obama?
Because many of his Democratic policies target the middle class and kill jobs. I don’t need to repeat myself that unsubsidized Obamacare premiums for middle class individual policy holders (like small business owners) are similar to a mortgage, and the deductibles are many thousands of dollars. That right there knocked many people right out of the middle class. People modified their career decisions to avoid losing their subsidies. Then there was doubling the minimum wage, even though the state has such a wide range of cost of living. That killed jobs, because no magic money tree sprang up to pay for it. And if a business, like a restaurant, operated in a town that could not absorb a 30% increase in menu prices to cover the increased labor costs, then that business closed, taking all its jobs with it. The minimum wage increase took away jobs disproportionately in struggling cities where the cost of living was low. Those neighborhoods could not absorb the higher prices for goods and services, so they lost the jobs. The increase in transportation costs just to set tire in CA makes it more expensive to have anything shipped here, like a truck and trailer load of hay.
It seems like if the government claims to have a great new policy to help you, you should run screaming.
Baloney. This has been going on for sixty years. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer because Americans live under the illusion that government hands off the rich is the way to go. Take a moment and research those countries with the greater middle class. They all have billionaires and millionaires but they all have a strong middle well paid class. The American dream needs revisiting.
Baloney is right. Thanks for having the courage of your convictions to confront the propaganda.
Let’s be honest.
If Donald Trump had spent $1.2 billion and secured the election, the headlines would have been that billionaire business tycoon bought the White House.
Karen, You, myself and a few others here are interested in honesty, just regular lie/truth honesty as well as intellectual honesty. As we have seen, liberals don’t like honesty. They like lies, excuses, alibis, innuendo. Just look @ this topic. Clinton flushed $1.2 billion down the toilet. She spent a record amount in 2008 and didn’t get the freakin’ nomination. She would not have gotten the nomination in 2016 w/o rigging the Dem party and debates. Then she just vastly outspent her opponent in the general by a record amount and got her ass handed to her. Now, in some respects I like the denial and dissembling by liberals, protecting Lady Macbeth. But, like yourself, I love the US, the greatest country ever. And, I don’t want this great country to become a monopoly, w/ Rep controlling everything for generations. I’ve seen what the monopoly of Dem big cities has created and I do not want that for this greatest country.
Ever notice that those that brag about their honesty are usually lying. Just sayin……..
Clinton team angry Obama that didnt reveal CIA view Russia hacked dems before election, Obama didn’t want charge he playing politics with CIA Duh! Obama… What about your FBI director Comey?
I think it’s because Obama didn’t really want to turn control of the Democrat party back over to the Clintons. This way Obama maintains his role as head of the party. Good for him.
lee – Bernie should be the standard-bearer for the Democrats. They did everything they could to screw him and he still almost won., And then he did what I would have never done, he campaigned for Hillary. They either have something on him (picture with a dead boy) or he is an idiot.
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Hillary’s 2008 presidential campaign ended with over $25 million campaign debt. Bill Clinton was for years emailing donors offering them a chance to spend the day with him in New York City if they helped pay off some of Hillary’s debt. This went on until 2013 – all while Hillary was Secretary of State. Trump had a message, a winning strategy, he connected with voters, he managed his campaign’s finances in a superior way to Hillary Clinton. He spent half. He won. She had a poor strategy, no message, wasted donor money and lost. I’m sorry, but Hillary Clinton is a mess. She always was and always will be. Scandal follows Hillary wherever she goes. Does anyone not remember the multitude of First Lady scandals the country endured with the first Clinton presidency? We all remember Miss Lewinsky, but people seem to forget all the scandal Hillary caused. Thank God for the intelligence of the American voters to make the right choice. Trump was the correct choice – no doubt about it.
For the billionaire class for sure……..
Right, and Obama certainly did a lot to help the billionaire class as well. The rich got richer under Obama and the poor got poorer. Trump was the better choice and the country made the right choice. And you know what? I think it’s worth highlighting again just how awful Hillary Clinton is….
Besides the horrendously poor campaign Hillary ran – which speaks to poor instincts and poor judgment -does anyone not have a concern that during Hillary’s FBI interview regarding her private server and the state department email scandal, she answered, “I don’t recall” 40 times? And her answer as to why she couldn’t recall pertinent facts about the high level job she held? She actually used the excuse that she had a concussion from a head injury sustained in a fall so she couldn’t remember! Say What?!! Does this sound like someone we want as the leader of the free world? On just that answer alone she should be disqualified. But then you add to that her literal collapse on 9/11 – a most unsettling sight for all the world to see. And that, btw, had nothing to do with walking pneumonia.
Does anyone not remember the littany of scandals tied to Hillary during the Bill Clinton presidency in the 90s? Or when Hillary testified before congressional investigators as First Lady, and she answered “I don’t know” or “I don’t remember” 250 times -while she let her close friends go to prison to cover for her? Please.
Does anyone actually still believe that Hillary’s never-ending quest for more power and money and her decades long trail of lies, deception, fraud, wrong-doing, criminality, scandal, incompetence, and coverup should have been rewarded with her winning this election and being given the White House? So we could elect our first woman president? How on earth was she the “most qualified ever” to run for the office? If the goal was to elect an utterly corrupt scandal-plagued lying, over-rated, incompetent, politician – now, that position she would have been over-qualified for.
Trump was the right choice. No doubt about it.
Spend a little time researching Trump and then comment.
How much did Trump not have to spend when you factor in the millions of free publicity given to him by all the media? Stein would have loved to have had her every word repeated by on every station, in every printed page, all over the internet. It could have been a game changer if the media had picked her instead of the person the DNC thought would make Clinton a shoo-in.
Turley, your lame bias carries an ever increasing odor. Trump spent more than Clinton down the stretch even though Clinton spent more in the long run. The real reason Trump won, by 80,000 votes in three states, is that enough, but short of half by over two million, voters were memory and common sense challenged to vote for him. Enough voters were manipulated by month after month of unrelenting lies and exaggerations to seek a release from their own personal pressures and jump on the Trump Train.
Trump may not be a fascist but he is assuredly not of or for the people. Trump is an oligarch who used classic fascist methods to gain office. There was absolutely nothing ethical regarding how Trump campaigned and won. One has to only look at the similarities between Trump’s disgusting campaign and like events in history to see. In the ’30’s the Germans were convinced that they were the superior race that had been dealt a bad deal by their government and the rest of the world. They got directions outward for their anxiety and blame. And they got a loud mouthed buffoon with a funny clump of hair on his face. Hopefully the similarities stop there. However, looking at the cabinet picks thus far, it looks remarkably similar. Almost every one of Trump’s picks are extremist. This will be a true test of the ‘check and balance system’. But this time the Republican party will be the only ones to check and balance this idiot.
I love it, everyone that doesn’t think like me is memory challenged. Yep, that explains how he won.
Forgetting what a scam Reagan pulled, the recession caused by the idiot Bush, and the same old dysfunctional trickle down arguments again; yeah, I’d say memory challenged. Or, perhaps just stupid.
Okay. And I’m wondering what your thoughts are on Obama’s time in office? You are very analytical and so I’m just curious to hear your take on president Obama.
Along with well over half of the Americans polled, I see Obama as more good than bad. His ego, and ego is the name of the game, along with the traitorous obstructionism of the Republicans, hindered his clean up of the catastrophe he inherited. The economy could have done much better had the Republican obstructionists taken part in Obama’s infrastructure proposals. Now it will be done under Trump and more lies. The ACA could have been fine tuned and made to work if not for the absolute position against it by the Republicans. Much of what Obama and any President does doesn’t work. That is the nature of the beast when it is free to do anything it wants such as ship jobs over seas etc.
I think that Obama did a yeoman’s job given the mess and the traitors he had to deal with. Obama’s greatest legacy should be the exposing of how one party, in this case the Republican party, will go to any extreme even to the detriment of the people in the attempt to monger power. These aren’t simply my opinions. McConnell flat out stated that regardless of whether or not it was good for America the traitors would obstruct it. Perhaps this is the greatest lesson given from Obama’s eight years; that the system is dysfunctional and potentially dangerous. We dodged a bullet when Palin did not get one heart beat away from the Presidency only to get nailed dead center with Trump.
Take Obama in perspective and he will be remembered as one of the greatest Presidents, greater than Reagan, the cleaner after the mess made by Bush, and the first half of what should have been. Trump will cement the oligarchs and fascists more deeply into the fabric of American government.
Thanks issac…..and so is anything actually Obama’s responsibility? Don’t all presidents inherit some kind of mess to manage? Like the enormous mess Obama made in the Middle East that he is leaving for Trump? Or the doubling of the national debt that Trump has to tackle? Or the mess that is Obamacare? Obama is about to leave office after eight years and he is still blaming Bush, the Republicans, Fox News, you name it. It’s never on him. Always on someone else who stood in his way of him being more effective. Notice how everything is qualified, like, he did a great job “given the mess and the traitors he had to deal with?” All of them have messes and traitors to deal with. I think it’s called “politics.”
issac – Obama gets good marks, his policies don’t.
Was it Reagan first and then Bush? I think so. So Reagan was not the cleaner after the mess made by Bush. So: Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Clinton, George W. Bush. Correct?
1.2 billion $. It’s fun to spend other people’s money.
Freakanomics did a chapter on how it is a myth that the candidate w/ the most money wins.
Like any other input, the effect of money manifests diminishing returns. William Proxmire used to spend three-digit sums on his re-election campaigns and said most members of Congress could get by with that but choose not to. Money’s important for challengers who need to establish their name, but it cannot overcome substantial partisan advantages or good rapport between the incumbent and their public (which last is aided by having other elected officials on your side and not bad mouthing you sotto voce to the media). In small scale races, as you have in suburban villages, rural areas and small towns, money matters not so much; reputation, shoe leather, and people skills in small-groups and one-on-one matter.
$1.2 billion to lose to someone spending half that amount. Now tell me again which candidate would provide a better ROI of our tax dollars? I love it when the “undereducated” voter is still able to make the wise choice.
Ha ha, you hit the nail right on the head. The complainers just can’t get over it. They will go to their grave that way.
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-lock-her-up-now-we-dont-care-2016-12 ” The crowd at President-elect Donald Trump’s victory rally on Friday night started up a familiar chant: “Lock her up.” The slogan was a staple of his raucous election campaign, targeting his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton.
When the audience revived the chant in Grand Rapids, Michigan, Friday night — more than one month after Trump won the election — the president-elect said, “That plays great before the election — now we don’t care, right?” ” 😉
Impossible for dull old Hillary to compete with celebrity culture. Hope the Donald makes y’all rich too.
Sorry I voted for Trump, worse cabinet picks in history he scammed us. I live in Md so I didn’t help him at all but I am concerned about our freedoms with him. I wanted change not a Russian puppet.
For the next election recognize that campaign statements are designed only to get votes. Once elected, politicians do whatever is necessary to serve their largest campaign donors.
Maybe the dems should run Kim Kardashian or Oprah Winfrey. Rich celebrities trump policy wonks every time.
Kim’s husband, Kanye West in 2020. I believe he declared from the stage at a music awards show.
‘That campaign statements are designed only to get votes.’ This is the essence of what just happened. That it happened so blatantly and to such ridiculous extremes is the real issue. To think that almost half of all voters included such a degree of mindless suckers is nothing but frightening. The next step is to dig up John Wayne and have his corpse elected President.
Leave it to a progressive to suggest digging up dead people to get involved in the political process.
issac – you cannot represent the people without being elected. To do that, you must lie to them some of the time. If you are an informed voter you know that to begin with and make your choice based on some niche issue. For me, it is who should have the nuclear codes?
Some of the time??? Trump lid unrelentingly all the time. Most politicians don’t lie but make promises that they can’t keep. There is a big difference. Trump laughed and lied and laughed and lied and strutted and laughed and laughed and he is still laughing. The most flabbergasted face on election day night when the results came in was that orange one. Have you noticed how it is morphing from sickly orange to sickly pink. Trump doesn’t have the time to tan anymore and it is going to get worse. One hopeful prediction is that he keels over under the weight of his rug before the first year is out.
issac – he is not even President yet and you cannot stand it. I tolerated Obama for 8 years, you can tolerate Trump for 8 years.
Just goes to show that a BAD candidate is worthless at any price.
A new Mastercard slogan?
That is the amount of money it took to win 2.7 million more votes than her opponent, in spite of massive voter suppression of Clinton voters.
We live in a Constitutional Republic. Being in the middle of the country I’m grateful for it albeit I’m not grateful for whom we had to chose from. I’ve never heard that there was a suppression of Clinton voters. Could you cite this please. If you are referring to the popular vote I, I’ve nothing to say a it’s an invalid argument.
Long lines – requiring standing for several hours in black precincts. Corrupted voting machines dysfunctional when recount attempted in Michigan. Disqualifying people because they have the same name as a disqualified person. Disallowing vote by mail in some locations.
Take out CA and NY and the popular vote goes wildly in the other direction. Plus campaigning would be significantly altered if all of this were based on the popular vote, which it isn’t. I live in CA and my vote doesn’t count for anything from most local elections on up the ladder to national elections. Not happy about it but thats the way the cookie crumbles.
Popular vote is meaningless in our system. There is no popular vote ‘to win’. Winning 270 electoral votes is the number that counts. Trump’s campaign strategy would have been quite different if he was trying to win the popular vote, but he was trying to win the electoral vote which is how our game is played. What’s Hillary’s excuse? She knows how the game is played and she blew it.
Popular vote is meaningless. What is meaningful is that Trump won more states than Obama did in 2008. And Trump won over 2600 counties to Hillary’s roughly 450 counties. And that Trump’s campaign strategy won him the election. And that Hillary’s strategy lost her the election. Accept this and move on from the “but she won the popular vote” talking piont. You may not like it, but that’s how we play the game and Trump won.
The trolling money was coming from David Brock’s organizations.
Supposedly Trump spent $5 per vote. Hillary would have doubled that. I read that she blew $40 million in the last two weeks. And I don’t think anyone is counting the money spent for trolls on blogs and news sites.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-09/trumps-bait-and-switch“Given his cabinet picks so far, it’s reasonable to assume that The Donald finds hanging out with anyone who isn’t a billionaire (or at least a multimillionaire) a drag. What would there be to talk about if you left the Machiavellian class and its exploits for the company of the sort of normal folk you can rouse at a rally? It’s been a month since the election and here’s what’s clear: crony capitalism, the kind that festers and grows when offered public support in its search for private profits, is the order of the day among Donald Trump’s cabinet picks. Forget his own “conflicts of interest.” Whatever financial, tax, and other policies his administration puts in place, most of his appointees are going to profit like mad from them and, in the end, Trump might not even wind up being the richest member of the crew.
Only a month has passed since November 8th, but it’s already clear (not that it wasn’t before) that Trump’s anti-establishment campaign rhetoric was the biggest scam of his career, one he pulled off perfectly. As president-elect and the country’s next CEO-in-chief, he’s now doing what many presidents have done: doling out power to like-minded friends and associates, loyalists, and — think John F. Kennedy, for instance — possibly family.”
Here, however, is a major historical difference: the magnitude of Trump’s cronyism is off the charts, even for Washington.” Clinton ran a terrible campaign and many many things went wrong. People wanted to believe the biggest scam artist that ever has run for president would make their lives better and so he won both in the wealthy suburbs and in some of the places where people had lost hope. Unfortunately it looks like the very wealthy will be rewarded while others will be even worse off.
I don’t know that Clinton ran a bad campaign. There were some major problems with her arrogance, patent lying and lack of integrity, and a few enlightening emails that no one had the balls to dispute, all of which showed who she and her cronies are. If she had won, Obamaism would have sedated us during the next round of Wars for Wall Street.
As for Trump, never for a day has he been a populist. Old-fashion demagoguery is what got him by, and apart from a purported stand against foreign-trade agreements which remains to be seen, the rich will continue their temporary grace with tax relief, and the working class – apart from a very lucky few – will maintain its downward spiral.
I loved the header photo of Clinton and the woman carrying her briefcase, Pocahontas, who left principle behind for her own career in deceptive populism.
The campaign failed to put time and resources in to the Midwest and lost it there by not that many votes. That is what I say the campaign was not run well.
Clinton had the misguided belief that enough Americans could see through Trump’s ‘dealings’ to do what is best for Americans. Tump was all but allowed free rein to bark his carnival rant. Clinton was held to higher expectations, a white sheet with blatant black stains. Trump was a black sheet, the fact established very early on. Nothing Trump could say or do would show up against an already accepted sleaze ball. Trump immediately felt for and found the pulse of general anxiety and gave it labels, targets, and reinforced the angst with unrelenting lies and exaggerations. After the dust settles, Clinton was not responsible for Benghazi regardless of how she tried to manage the affair so poorly, Clinton’s private email deal was nothing more than what people in power do only it stuck out. No harm was done, apologies were given, and a new bench mark was set.
Trump loading up his cabinet with ‘experts’ is reminiscent of Bush who because he was an idiot and knew it, surrounded himself with two grossly egotistical but incompent handlers: Cheney and Rumsfeld. Two wannabes who had been invited to every dance but never as prom king got their chances. Now the hen house is stocked with leaders to advise Trump on economic-corporate heads, the military-ex generals, our environment, the air that we breathe, the water that we drink, the food that we eat-the main poodle of the fossil fuel industry.
As a glass half full kind of guy, I keep a light on in the back, a light that perhaps Trump knows what he is doing and that these clones he has appointed will be more easily reined in or serve as a threat to the Congress and Senate or something artsy. However, the more probable scenario is that Trump is an idiot who was born of wealth and pruned and trimmed from multi millionaire to billionaire, off of the backs of the working stiff who got routinely stiffed, using the money from the uber rich to build for the uber rich, and having acquired a vast knowledge of how to screw the government and thwart the law. So far it seems that Trump has invited nothing but wolves into the hen house to administer things. But, hey, keep listening to the lies and keep getting stroked.