There was a disturbing story out of South Orange, New Jersey recently where a group of middle school students who walked out of an event rather than take a picture with the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives Paul Ryan. It is a sad statement about our country that children are raised to despise those with whom they disagree. Ryan is third in line for the presidency. Teaching your children to show contempt for our national leaders brings a terrible cost for the country in terms of the civility and dialogue. The walk out of half of the students at the South Orange Middle School event was intentionally insulting to Ryan and disrespectful to his office. There was a time when children were taught that they should maintain a level of respect for the government even when you oppose its policies. When the Speaker takes the time to come to your school, he deserves a modicum of respect in my view.
Ryan is a conservative and many disagree with his positions. However, he is part of a democratic system and represents the majority of the “People’s House.” His appearance at the school was a wonderful opportunity for these students and an opportunity to set aside disagreements for a civil and respectful discussion.
I have no problem with taking children to protests though I did not support the protests of the inauguration of President Trump. There are times to voice opposition and times to show respectful consideration. Indeed, I would be thrilled to have my children meet with leaders of different political viewpoints as part of their understanding of our pluralistic democratic system.
I would have been deeply upset with any of my children walking out on such an esteemed visitor to their middle school.
What do you think?
Walking out of an event which does not meet your needs is a time-honored means of protest and free will. I will not be held captive by a speaker such as Ryan out of some antiquated concept, never really valid, that I should respect the office of the man whether or not I believe he is good for the country. By that reasoning the German people did nothing wrong by respecting the glorious leader, as he was entitled to that by the basis of this article. Other recent forms of protest have arguably been within the white lines Prof Turley paints, but in this case he is way off the mark. If I can’t leave a gathering which is boring, uninformative, or the words of someone whom I believe to be a danger to my country, I am lost. I reserve the right to walk out on Prof Turley were he to speak and act as does Ryan.
There really ain’t a whole lot to protest at stuff like this, except the very presence of Ryan. Who is no hero of mine, but I wouldn’t walk out on him under normal circumstances. What you don’t get, is that people should not be in political-protest mode 24/7.
Being in political mode 24/7 is a form of Gleichschaltung, and is the method the Nazis used to take over arts, culture, and darn near every facet of German life. They all became subservient to the Nazi philosophy.
Just like American generals study the battlefield tactics of Nazi generals, the Democratic Party studies the political tactics of the Nazi Party (and Communist Party) to imitate their successes at getting and maintaining political power and control.
If you think this isn’t happening in America, just remember Gleichschaltung the next time Stephen Colbert make snide and gross anti-Trump remarks on what is supposed to be a comedy show, or various Mel Streep types using their awards time at the Oscars to dump on Republicans, or these orchestrated walk outs where Republicans are speaking. Remember the Brown Shirts the next time the SJWs riot and attack conservative speakers on campuses.
Yes, “Fascism” can happen here, and the Democratic Party is a$$-deep in it.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Than you Squeeky, nice piece.
Of Course. I reserve the right to walk out on Princeton for it’s production of racist sexists and pro Marxist Leninits and anti Constitutional graduates. It’s also called turning off the switch so many are addicted to and unable to refuse by simply pushing a button.
I’m often at odds with Libertarian Turley and state exactly why getting good responses but here are limits. One is propagandizing grade school children and setting up a preplanned action. Was it done with knowledge of the parents? I noticed that questions like that and a place for comments were carefully excluded.
I consider Ryan to be the inheritor of the of the Chief RINO label who along with his predecessor failed to see the dangers at another place that has buttons. The voting booths. Unlike Boehner he saw the Handwriting On the Wall of the voting booths
But I don’t get tossed for promoting the idea of ‘what need of party’s. Look what a larger amount of self-governing citizens did to change things on November 8th preferring an unpolished outsider to polished insider politician offered. The laugh line turned out to be true.
With Hillary it’s 100% certainty autocratic backed by a neo-aristocratic form of totalitarian feudalism.
With Trump you get a lottery ticket. The majorit of the nation using Constitutional Rules preferred the odds of the lottery. The end of that is each of us got all of us got all of what we voted for smashing Hillary and the left, some of got some of what we voted for but that is still a work in progress.
None of us did not got what we feared most. Comrade Clinton and the Rejectables.
And now we still CAN promote changes like re-establishing the GOP as a true separate party not the right wing of the left. Perhaps the Constitutional Republic Party. And establishing a Constitutional Centrist Coalition for after all in a Constitutional Republic what else would the center besides the Constitution?
Thus providing two ways to make even further changes starting at the grass roots bottom which I might add is the only place one finds something called a democracy and then only until they elect people to be the government and become a Representative Democracy and then only until they give up all control until the next term (like the 31 states without Recall) and then become a Representative Constitutional Republic.
Sorry Virginia the is no such thing as a large D Democracy in the USA. but there is a large socialist movement called the democrat socialist party. or since 1898 by one of their other many names. Progressives.
But as we learned on November 8th Yes, Virginia there is a Santa Claus. the moderate centrist movement of self governing citizens who took 40% of the votes cast. and defeated the establishment simply by being politically aware…and retaining the ability to think, reason, and come to objective and rational conclusions.
Something The Collective will never be able to match.
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Agree. In theory, our Democracy has no position articulated in the Bill of Rights or anywhere else of politicians or aristocracy or class in general that has “respect” attached to it as “owed” by some divine right. Indeed, by right, if respect and it’s somewhat more superficial cousin, courtesy, is owed by anyone to anyone, it is BY the politicians TO their constituents who have entrusted them with power -supposedly- on THE CONSTITUENT’S behalf.
Also, as has been pointed out elsewhere in the comments to this post, the children did not hoot or raise signs or any other uncivil form of active protest, rather they simply declined to participate in a portrait of obvious political intent (Ryan posted the picture of those who did participate to his Instagram page) where they would – by their presence- be endorsing views they do not hold (whether this choice was theirs or motivated by their parents is not relevant to the complaint of lack of civility for not endorsing Ryan by being in his photo op).
This should be true whether the speaker is Paul Ryan or his Democrat counterpart. So the real question becomes not the civility of students opting out of a politically motivated photo with Ryan so as not to send a false message of support, but rather Paul Ryan’s inability to earn that respect – reflected among other things by his putting those students in that embarrassing situation and taking credit in the photo op as if there had been no dissent.
And for those gentle readers who might have forgotten, EARNING THINGS, like respect, rather than getting them as government enforced hand-outs, is considered quite important by some.
I wouldn’t assume the 100 that left had any more or less civics literacy than those that stayed. Unless these students attend a Classical Liberal Academy, they are for more likely expressing the political views of their teachers or even more likely, their parents. And given their expression of a “student’s first” education model, they are not receiving a classical education; especially given their complete disregard for civility.
What would more informative is to read an essay from all the students describing their experience on the visit with Speaker Ryan, along with a civics exam.
“classical education” in the strict sense has been rare in the last century. By way of example, Harvard University used to include sections on Greek and Latin on its entrance examinations. The Greek section was eliminated in 1897 and the Latin in 1916. My father had a couple of years of Latin in high school, but that was atypical even then (ca. 1943). The arts and sciences faculty I know best hands out about 700 diplomas each year. A mean of 8 are in classics, of which a mean of two are awarded to students who worked at learning Greek or Latin. The sort of liberal education that John Adams had (he could read Sallust in the original) was unusual then and almost unknown in our own time. Even priests do not know much Latin.
You need to drill students on the fundamentals of American history, geography, and civics (say, 65% history, 25% geography, and 10% civics) between the age of about 10 to the age of 13 or thereabouts. For most, it will go in one ear and out the other. Still, you have a hope that a residue will survive and inform the subject acting in his civic capacity. A very inefficient way of drilling them is shepherding them around in a tour bus.
given their complete disregard for civility.
Contemporary blather about civility is largely humbug. Progressives have no moral or ethical principles. It’s all improvisations in service of self-aggrandizement. When they complain about ‘civility’, they’re really complaining that someone got the better of them.
Civility is an aesthetic and procedural value. Invoking it assumes people have a concern for aesthetics, procedure, and conflict-management. Sometimes they do, usually they do not.
I guess raising children to be good citizens went out in the ’50s. My kids were raised like that and they are raising their children to be good citizens too. This is disrespect, plain and simple, and my kid would not be too old for a paddling, bedroom stay with no devices and loss of privileges.
You don’t show respect for children by beating them with paddles.
The USA has become a much meaner place since the election of the orange one.
Sure Francesca, civil discourse and a lack of ideological-based violence were the hallmark of our society until President Trump was elected. Your enlightened comments demonstrate just how much you desire to bring civility back.
Well done!
1955 – typical school offenses by students – running in the halls, chewing gum in class.
2017 – typical school offenses by students – violence, gang activity, drugs, metal detectors and airport style security in almost every school.
Woop Woop!
No, once again you show your loopiness. Paddling their little a$$es when they need it is a great sign of respect. You show the kid that you think they are not retards, and thus teachable. You show them that you care enough to make sure that they grow up right, and not like these little snowflakes who will end up sucking their thumbs in a college safe space.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
It’s not the purpose of spanking to ‘show respect’. The purpose of a spanking is to penalize.
They are not beaten, they also are not coddled. The MODERN way of raising children, that has been the norm since the ’60s, has not worked. You are foolish to assume that. This is why the last few generations have not learned “the art of suck”. In other words…… learn to suck it up and carry on. You sound like a product of this disordered parenting.
My first reaction is to investigate who was the instigator and I would expect to find one category “The teachers and administrators.”
I can’t wait until that district (as in Congressional) needs something. My guess the speaker will have the last word….gavel too.
The way I heard it growing up, In a free country, respect is something you earn. The President, in theory, is supposed to be a public servant and number three, or Paul Ryan, the same. As it stands now, we are the servants, they are the masters. And our children should bloody well know it. And respect it!
Why would Ryan give a hoot about respect? He get’s his health care no matter how many millions of us are cut out from it. He gets his lavish pension even though ours is cut to shreds to pay for military destabilization of the entire world. He flies in luxury class at 35 thousand feet above the rest of us while we crawl along in second hand junk cars below and more and more pay toll booths to private companies that have been given the rights to our infrastructure that our parents paid for with their tax dollars. He gets his millions of secret dollars in revolving doors, lobbiest money, kick backs, off shore accounts, and so on. Citizens get the bill for all that corruption and if they so much as whimper in complaint, they get told they are dead beat losers to boot.
Robbing the defenseless blind in the name of serving them is a bi-partisan program that has achieved the status of a secret amendment to the Constitution. It has been enshrined and enforced in the 6th estate; partisan ideology – the kind the Russians could only dream of when Pavlov’s dog was first analyzed responding to whistles. Those subscribing to the right wing ideology will defend every instance of such robbery to their death when their team is in power. The exact same thing that was outrageously illegal just months before is now self evident as a mainstay of the rule of law. Hillary’s email server was highly illegal, but Kushener planning communication with a foreign power cutting our security protocols out of the loop entirely is a stellar act of patriotism. Then when it’s the Dem’s turn, the exact same thing functionally if not stylistically in reverse.
Of course in reality and in spite of these magical ideologies that turn wrong into god given right, both parties are utterly corrupt. Both parties serve the same master but that master has discovered how to remain invisible via this 6th estate: massive doses of propaganda that give a religious fanaticism of self sacrifice to ideology. Of course, given such a crooked system, both parties are emblematic of a collapsing empire and, human nature being what it is, the only way they are going to get any of the kind of respect that they truly deserve, it to make such respect a law and force it down the throats of the citizenry by the now militarized police. We are most of the way there. Children, pay attention!
And so it goes, man exploiting man, until the other team is in power. Then it’s the other way around. *
Those children of the other team should be disciplined for not showing common courtesy to one of our team. That’s why Elise above is so spiritually in tune (responding to the whistle) with her team when she denounces such lack of courtesy and goes on to say, with out the least bit of consciousness of the irony, that she won’t even allow the other team in her house.
* John Kennith Galbraith on the difference between capitalism and communism.
Huge ramble of topic….sad.
You sound like Trump, but do you look like him?
Oh yes, and thanks for the “beside the point” jibe. Look the other way, messages like yours always let me know I’m spot on target.
…off topic
Thanks, you make my case for me more eloquently than almost anyone else on this site.
Nicely done.
Hot damn BB! You are on a roll – too bad so many people cling to their party ideologies. I applaud your efforts to wake folks up. “Respect must be earned” has gone by the wayside.
Thanks Autumn, and Charles!
Violent Democrats, liberals and progressives have been burning down cities for three or four years. They destroyed property at Berkeley to protest a flaming homosexual immigrant from speaking. They wrung the neck of a professor at Middlebury for bringing someone to campus to talk that they don’t like. They destroyed property throughout the nation’s capitol on the day the country transferred power from one duly elected president to another because they lost an election.
Declining to have their photo taken with the Speaker seems perfectly fine to me. At least they didn’t set fire to the Capitol or try to wring Ryan’s neck the way some Democrats, progressives and liberals have done to people they don’t like.
Couldn’t agree more! My parents would have NEVER allowed me to do that!!
Mine too. I was born in Jersey, Trenton and lived just outside of Princeton and my wife’s family is from South Orange and I can tell you two things. First, my school never would have allowed this to even happen and second if I did, my father had two choices…a belt or stick of wood.
On the bright side. The whole country is not like this….just pockets here and there. The electoral college just proved that.
Living now since ’76 in the land of Gump I can assure you that there is cause for hope. Children here who are raised to address their parents and teachers with “Yes ma’am and Yes sir”. The alternative is called a woop’n or the a trip to the wood shed.
Mary – when JFK was campaigning for President, he visited the school where my brother was. He was shaking the hands of all the children but as my brother came from deep rooted Republican stock, he refused to shake his hand. 😉
To me, respect for politicians started leaving when Clinton showed no respect for the office in the 90’s.
They get this animus from their teachers, even more than they get it at home. The teacher’s union has ruined education and indoctrinated children into the Dem cult.
“We all hate you” -The Daily Mail, May 28
Article mentions comments and insults students posted when Paul Ryan put the photo on Instagram.
What animus, Nick?
Amen to that, Nick. My sister in St Paul is a raving liberal and in the teachers union (or was). The FTA which is the most left. Unions are NOT needed anymore, they are from a bygone age. Unions hurt more people than help and are rife with corruption.
If the students wanted to embarrass Ryan and/or express disrespect they had merely to ask an intelligent question. Ryan would have withered and lied and diverted, etc. This is the most appropriate way to expose the idiots, charlatans, and oligarch puppets in our government, on both sides.
Isaac,…
– Gee, maybe there were questions for Ryan and maybe C-Span captured it on film and will show it.
And I’m sure that Paul Ryan “would have withered” under the interrogation of these 13 year-old policy geniuses.
Why do you imagine they know an intelligent question? Is there evidence they are being educated in anything besides ideological purity (sic)?
Since I suspect parents and teachers are behind the snub, I suggest that the kids walk out on the teachers or their parents whenever they disagree with what the teachers or parents have to say. Turn about would be fair play.
Notice this is all Democrats that are being brainwashed into doing this. The Left has become radicalized by our schools from K thru college. The Left has become a massive threat to our republic and liberty. They are well intentioned but very misguided.
Those who used to value the 1st Amendment more than any other, have become its greatest enemy.
Even worse is they are the useful idiots of the Deep State. Doing the Dirty Work for the Globalists who seek to destroy Sovereign rights and borders to only enhance their wealth and power.
You foster what you lament
The FBI versus the Trump Kushner crime family
Try staying on topic.
Did you favor the Gambino family too?
Yelling about globalists while your President Trump has hired Goldman Sachs to run the economy.seems like pure folly. Are not Mnuchin and Cohn both democrat globalists?
I agree. I think Trump has tried to be far too diplomatic and listening to his SIL&daughter and Neo-Cons. He needs to stop trying to work with the Establishment. That is not why he was elected. He was elected to drain the swamp. Drain it.
Anonemouse,….
-I can think of a lot of words to describe Trump, but “diplomatic” is not one of them.😄
Try staying on topic.
and for the record, I cant stand Paul Ryan
The movie Blazing Saddles was shown on TV the night before this incident.
I heard on Cloud 9 that the students made a simple statement which is not mentioned in this article or in the news media: “But Not The Irish!”
antonio states that we are hopelessly divided.
Divided we are. Some see diversity as a strength enabling us to find a common path forward. Keep discussing and do not give in to dispare.
Diversity is not a strength but a source of conflict and tension.
And repeating the mantra over and over will not change this.
Wishing it WERE a strength, will not make it so.
Calling me racist for pointing out the above will not make it so.
Diversity plus close proximity equals conflict.
Here in Pullman, Washington, and especially at Washington State University somehow we have diversity and the ability, for most of us, to continue a conversation about a suitable way forward. All without anything resembling conflict.
That demonstrates it is possible, despite not only Rs and Ds, but blacks, various flavors of Orientals, latinos, a few native americans but also some Pacific Islanders. Oh yes, a few Palistinians, quite a few Indians, and some others from the Middle East.
This shows that it is possible. Do not give in to dispair.
Nice sentiments.
BTW, rugs are Orientals, people are Asians.
Westerners are Occidentals; Eastern peoples are Orientals. In the 1960s, some American Orientals wanted to be rebranded as “Asian,” about the same time Negros wanted to be called “black,” and later, “African-American,” but none of these terms are inherently offensive. If a group thinks that changing its name will improve its status or public perception, that’s fine, but it doesn’t really work. Did going from “Latino” to a “Hispanic” really make a difference? Or “black” to “AA?” Not really. People are respected for their accomplishments, not the label du jour.
Ditto!
And btw – the overwhelming percentage of modern inventions come from White guys, with some Asians.
I know, I know, I’m a really bad guy for noticing.
David
The demographics of Pullman, WA is 80% White, with Asians at 11% as the largest minority.
If Pullman were 30% Black or Hispanic you wouldn’t be able to live there except in a gated community.
And I say this as a Hispanic myself.
No, unfortunately the natural state of mankind is conflict, not love and brotherhood. Look at the former Yugoslavia, or most other countries with large groups living close together and you will see conflict.
You can have minorities in small numbers (within a dominant culture) but you cannot have mass immigration and multiculturalism as in occurring in the West.
Diversity plus close proximity equals tension and conflict.
And calling me bad names will not make it all go away.
Most people who like to virtue signal about diversity live in Whiteopias and/or send their kids to private schools, associate with other upper middle class people and then rant about how evil working class whites are for wanting to leave a decaying neighborhood.
Pullman Washington is a small town with no private schools and a relatively low median income. Your stories have ceased being credible.
Am I wrong about the demographics?
So it really is 30% minority?
I am quite familiar with small towns, practice law in one. Nice, quiet and peaceful. And 90% plus White. Left the Barrio long ago and never looked back.
Squeeky
Liberal whites love to virtue signal in order to show that they are, “good people”. Never to be confused with actual virtue.
You can be sure it is usually virtue signaling when someone gets highly upset about something that does not directly effect them and are in fact, live far from it.
Love reading you on this blog, btw.
Antonio
“Diversity is not a strength but a source of conflict and tension. . . . Calling me racist for pointing out the above will not make it so.”
Right. You already saddled that horse.
Steve
Not an answer or refutation, sir.
And by your own leftist definitions, I CANNOT be racist. Am of Hispanic origin, name and all. If I were a liberal Hispanic, you would be ki**ing my a** and trying to suck up to me.
Don’t you know identity politics? I love playing the ethnic card with s**tlibs.
👏BRAVO👏
Jazz hands flailing.
You are. Diversity is about inner qualities. If you can’t see past the exterior, then I would say your thinking is likely in need of a thne up. Granted, millennials would also prefer we were all robots, so that’s off the table as well.
James,
I cannot be racist, am of Hispanic origin, name and all.
Where is my apology?
Bet you are writing this from an upper middle class Whiteopia.
And we see that it’s only diversity in an Orwellian sense. The political dynamic is meant to dilute the power of the people who actually built and occupy western civilization. I think we have to stop pretending that the social engineers have any goal except the one they are achieving.
The ‘walkout’ was almost certainly organized by the faculty. One of the charming features of the progtrash mentality is their assumption that putatively common institutions are their sandboxes.
You just Make Stuff Up in your first sentence. Indeed, the linked Newsweek article suggests otherwise.
Learn some discernment.
I discern that you’re a hopeless jack-wagon.
Good one. Had to look that one up.
That is very likely. I have seen those trolls at middle schools in my city. Public education and charter schools (no, they are not a good thing) in many places amount to reprogramming and indoctrination centers at this point, and in a fashion we have never seen before in the States.
The tantrum at the Florida commencement with Beverly DeVos was later demonstrated to be the brain child of the Teacher’s Union and the NAACP. The graduating students and their achievements took a back seat to the Communist Revolution, just as they did in the Mogadishu Hotel shootings that killed the family of the graduating class.
What do I think? I think the United States is in a World of Trouble.
The Chinese curse is “May you live in interesting times.”
It will grow ever more interesting.
Our president has wrecked the country. He praises violent dictators.
Try staying on topic.
Agreed@Joe
When you have a president that assaults the ladies much cannot be expected.
Try staying on topic.
Assault ladies? Why draw the line there? The bar was actually set at drowning ladies ever since Chappaquiddick by the “Lion of the Senate”.
Amen! They don’t care about women murdered or abused by DNCers!
Joe – like Bill Clinton?
Ditto!
This is a great example of how political participation works: you express your views, and you get pilloried for it.
I’m referring to the children, of course, not Speaker Ryan.
It is called free speech.
What do I think?
We are absolutely coming apart at the seams as a country and this is merely another symptom.
If we, right wingers are so irredeemably wicked and hopeless, let us go. Better for you (the left can create their multicult utopia) and for us also. I want a divorce!
And I wonder, if these people who were praising the students, would feel the same, if it were some leftist politician, that was walked out on.
Our leftist friends would be calling for lifetime suspensions and removal of these kids from their parents.
Nonsense.
I agree. We are headed for Civil War in this country. Half of America is better than no America and the left wants SOCIALISM. Zuckerberg’s speech at Harvard the other day is a perfect example of a generation being completely out of touch with America. No borders, no laws, no rules, no education, no culture. All the same. Scary, isn’t it? I would like to lecture the cast of “Hamilton” for appropriating MY CULTURE. This is what 8 years of Obama and his lawless Administration have done to “Transform” America. It makes me put my head in the commode. However, the good news is that HRC did not win the Presidency. The bad news is that we still have to listen to her made up LIES about why she didn’t win. I don’t let Democrats/Progressives//Socialists enter my home any more. I can guarantee you that these kids have a Socialist Teacher who helped them get their little rears up and out to protest Ryan. If one of them was mine, capital punishment would take on new meaning.
You cannot know that. For all you know it was the students’ parents who influenced the young to stand for what they thought was right.
It is symbolic free speech, however acquired.
David
Regardless of the reason, it shows we are hopeless divided.
True.
Nicely said
President Trump through his violent rallies has taught young people that respect is a thing of the past.
Oh please. Young people discovered that one long before Trump came down the escalator in Trump tower to declare his candidacy. At one point do people take responsibility for their own actions? If any president has been responsible for the degradation of civility, it’s Obama. I’m no Trump supporter, but the alternative — progression of progressive agenda for four more years — was horrifying. And this country is far from being out of the woods. I’m still waiting on the fascism from the admin the left has been crying about. Last I read, it was Obama and his intel boys and girls who were spying on Americans.
Tapping mobsters like Trump and Kushner who are trying to launder money for Russian spies is not illegal. Who tapped senior Kushner? Was that illegal?
Joe – it is if they don’t have a warrant. And it seems that in most cases they don’t have warrants.
Courts have by and large stopped Trump from instituting his brand of Duterte style fascism much to the dismay of the blogs right wing posters.
True@Joe
“The bad news is that we still have to listen to her made up LIES about why she didn’t win.”
Lies are false statements that the speaker KNOWS to be false. I believe you are giving Hillary too much credit by assuming that she is sufficiently in touch with reality to know that her statements are wrong.
Antoinio laments that the country is “coming apart at the seams,” but plays right into the us versus them mentality. So what do you expect?
As to the initial comments by Professor Turley: “Teaching your children to show contempt for our national leaders brings a terrible cost for the country in terms of the civility and dialogue.”
Or maybe some of us feel that our national leaders have shown contempt to us. I think there is a two-way street that people are not acknowledging here and until they do, nothing is going to change.
I agree. I think Turley is full of it on this. I agree with Turley’s position more than half the time.
Robert Akridge
Sounds like maybe you’re one of the parents of one of these snot nosed munchkins.
Good job JT!
Yep
Sadly, I concur. Point the finger at their parents, someone put these ideas into their heads at that age. I blame a lack of parental involvement regarding social media and mobile technology as well. It has gone way too far. My hope is that it will be isolated, this particular cohort will be marginalized, and it will turn out to be a blip on the radar. It’s getting spooky, though. How long before it is deemed acceptable to skip the pretense and just start hurting people? Isn’t interesting that it is mainly affluent white kids appropriating in the name of not appropriating? It lends a lot of credence to the notion that money is changing hands. It is despicable. These kids are ignorant beyond belief, add the powder keg of self-justified rage and things tend to blow up.
Exactly right.
We have been apart for a long time..maybe when the left died on the pike of partial birth abortions, maybe when Conservatives realized that the left actually wanted to eradicate them and go to a one party system.