Flipping Flynn: The Real and Imagined Damage For A Mueller Deal


Since the appointment of the Special Counsel in the Russian investigation, former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn has been the most obvious target for not simply a criminal charge but a possible prosecutorial deal.  The news that Flynn is no longer sharing information under the prior joint defense agreement with Trump figures could prove significant . . . or not.  Such a change would occur even with a non-cooperation plea agreement.  Nevertheless, it could be an effort of Flynn to strike a deal on a deal for himself and his son in exchange for cooperation.

While it did not attract the same attention, another notable development was the cooperation agreement reached with Reza Zarrab, a Turkish businessman accused of violating U.S. sanctions on Iran.  His cooperation could have magnified the pressure on Flynn, whose greatest exposure appears to be his Turkish as opposed to his Russian dealings.

Here it the column:

News that former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn is talking to special counsel Robert Mueller has Trump critics virtually hyperventilating with excitement. Indeed, the prospect of flipping Flynn has led some to all but declare the end of the Trump administration as we know it.

Former Obama administration ethics chief Norman Eisen declared on Twitter, “BAD NEWS FOR TRUMP. Flynn may or may not have dirt on the Prez, but he surely will roll over on Kush, who will flip like a pancake on daddy-in-law’s [obstruction]. They are gonna have to start frisking Jared for a wire in the Oval.” He ominously noted about Mueller, “When I was at State & he was at FBI we worked together on an investigation, & he loves surprises. Kushner, Donnie Jr. and the rest of the Trump crime family better keep their overnight bags handy. Pack shoes with no laces guys.”

While this case may be endlessly entertaining for some and Mueller may “love surprises,” these people, including Trump himself, are not props in some progressive fantasy production. Before Mueller has some major delicious “surprise,” he will need a crime other than those committed by Flynn himself. The effort to flip Flynn is the most predictable development in this investigation. First, he has clear allegations of criminal conduct in his work as a foreign agent. Second, his crimes are the type that prosecutors would have few qualms in trading away for good testimony. Third, he was in a high position that could allow him to produce “deliverables” on higher ranking individuals.

Finally, and most importantly, he has a kid in the mix: Michael Flynn Jr., who served as chief of staff to the Flynn Intel Group. As I previously discussed with regards to Trump himself, there is a danger in enlisting family in political work, and this is one of them. It makes you profoundly vulnerable when investigators come knocking. Mueller’s people have been circling “junior” and this withdrawal may indicate that he is the one price that Flynn is not willing to pay. Flynn’s son could now be the subject of a “third-party credit” in exchange for his father turning government witness.

It is important not to make any assumptions about the status of Flynn. Withdrawal is necessary even at the start of negotiations due to the conflict presented with other potential defendants. Any such deal could fall apart. Flynn is not some low hanging fruit. He is a major player and would be a trophy defendant for Mueller to add to his current indictment of former Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort. He has to produce something more valuable than himself for any real deal.

Nevertheless, Flynn could have counted on a potential presidential pardon if he remained loyal. Trump’s controversial pardon of former sheriff Joe Arpaio showed everyone that the president is willing to use this power despite overwhelming criticism. Becoming a cooperating witness could close off this avenue, and Flynn would have to believe that what Mueller is threatening is more significant than what Trump might offer.

Flynn could be facing serious claims of false statements to investigators under the U.S. Code and other laws. He is accused of misrepresenting meetings, including one with Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak that Flynn is accused of misrepresenting to Vice President Mike Pence and others. He also failed to register as a foreign agent. While only a handful of such cases have ever been prosecuted, Mueller charged Manafort under the Foreign Agents Registration Act, including allegations that he gave false information and sought to hide money derived from his work.

Flynn faces analogous alleged violations, including the cycling of payments through a Dutch firm, Inovo, that is owned by Ekim Alptekin, chairman of the Turkish American Business Council and close ally of President Erdoğan. Some of Flynn’s contacts with the Russians may have been captured by U.S. intelligence agencies, and he reportedly sought to gain access to damaging hacked emails on Hillary Clinton. Flynn could shed light on a June 2016 meeting with Russians to obtain disparaging information about Clinton as well as the influence of people like George Papadopoulos and Carter Page in establishing Russian ties.

Flynn also faces some more sensational claims, including alleged discussion of the effective kidnapping and delivery of Erdoğan critic Fethullah Gülen to Turkey for presumed torture and execution. At a meeting at the 21 Club in New York, Flynn was reportedly offered $15 million to arrange for Gülen to be taken on a private plane to a Turkish prison island. Flynn was also allegedly involved in a virtual propaganda film meant to discredit Gülen. The timing of these meetings is important because some communications occurred in December, when Flynn was assuming the role of acting national security adviser. If Flynn continued to be paid for such work in January, bribery charges could be alleged.

The most serious threat of flipping Flynn might be to Manafort, former CIA director James Woolsey, or Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner. Woolsey reportedly participated in the meeting on the kidnapping or “rendition” of Gulen and has been named as involved in some of these lucrative arrangements with foreign entities. Of course, there is always the possibility of damaging testimony involving President Trump. Such testimony would have heightened value to Mueller given Trump’s own statements. By trying to pressure Comey to “let Flynn go,” the president created his own damning narrative. With James Comey ready to testify that Trump’s overtures made him feel uncomfortable, leading to his famous memos, a witness on the other side could box in the president.

None of this means a perp walk down the White House driveway anytime soon. There is still no evidence of criminal conduct by Trump nor Kushner revealed in public court papers. Flynn is clearly a live torpedo in the water. However, while he has the range, it is not clear if he has the load to do serious damage to anyone in the White House. Rather, the concern should be that he and Mueller may be seeking a target of mutual interest, and if he hits, there will be nothing speculative or subtle about it.

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. You can follow him on Twitter @JonathanTurley.

98 thoughts on “Flipping Flynn: The Real and Imagined Damage For A Mueller Deal”

  1. That’s impressive but is more impressive is the Clinton Cover Up so I did my own investigation looking at the key legal terminology…

    Bear in mind the experience of six years Senator and for years Sec State with the responsibility for ensuring the security systems were in good order and informing her superior the then President if found not to be in good order. While it’s used elsewhere the word ‘intent’ does not appear in the following and thus is not an element of any wrong doing.


    “18 U.S. Code § 798 – Disclosure of classified information

    US Code
    Authorities (CFR)

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    (a) Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, *or otherwise makes available to an
    unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United
    States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified

    Putting together her time as a Senator and Secretary of State which requires full and continuous security
    briefings and a dedicated staff to handle such items and after becoming a private citizen used her still valid
    security clearance to obtain information or transfer documents of a potentially classified nature


    Having been informed to the point where she willfully installed equipment in an unsecured location used in the transfer of mateerial from and to government officials classified materials participated in and directed the removal of classified markings or claimed not to understand the meaning of classified markings, and knowingly ordered the installaton of and subsequient destruction of equipment used in the unauthorized transfer of classified documents. itself a violation.


    the installation having been found to be unsecure to ‘hacking’ techniques along with those of the DNC and the campaign committees.refused to install needed changes and refused to allow access and ordered their subsequent destruction when required to turn them over along with a number of cellular radio phone devices along with destroying a huge amount of the documents contained

    and in doing

    so made any and all information ‘available to any unauthorized person access any of the information which included classified documents.

    Something like ten years for each offense and each occurence.

    She knew what she was doing if you really want intent installed the equipment knowingly, used it knowingly, failed to secure the installation knowingly, and maintained it in a negligent manner knowingly.

    Her reason….personal convenience.

    But an experienced FBI Agent and Director of same could not come up with anything except a pass and go on collecting money in her ‘other’ activities nor felt it necessary to question the staff involved with and responsible for information security.

    Defend that!

    1. ) – you haven’t even gotten to the part where all the emails ended up on Weiner’s home computer with his porn.

  2. Norman Eisen should be sued for defamation.

    This seems like yet another rehash – nothing new here. We were told that the special prosecutor was going to prove that President Trump colluded with Russians on God-knows-what. It hasn’t happened yet; not even close. All of these bad actors should have been prosecuted individually. All of this was known when Flynn worked for Obama. 20 election opponents of candidate Trump would have discovered damning collusion with Russia as “opposition research” during the 2016 election. And the preposterous kicker is that Mueller himself is as guilty and corrupt as Obama, Hillary et al. given that he was their FBI Director and “Keeper of the Secrets.” Look what happened to Vince Foster – keeper of the Clinton Arkansas secrets. The gatekeeper of the “swamp” is in a difficult position. It must have been unimaginably tense in the FBI, CIA, Mob, M/I Complex cabal that conducted the JFK assassination. We should probably pity the overburdened denizens of the “swamp.”

    1. Rambling and disjointed; but it looks good on you.

      This is to “Hannity told me a lie repeated a hunerd times becomes the truth” georgie

      1. A couple of years ago a Hannity fan told me a story about a public meet and greet that he and his wife had with the celebrity. The fan said Hannity’s verbal approach was unexpected. The wife was very attractive. Maybe it’s not true and/or maybe it’s no harm, no foul. The fan, in describing the experience, seemed really disappointed.

    2. George said, ” We were told that the special prosecutor was going to prove that President Trump colluded with Russians on God-knows-what. It hasn’t happened yet; not even close.”

      George, you’re on to something. “God-knows-what” hasn’t happened yet, because the special counsel’s investigation is, amongst other things, a prophylactic measure against Trump doing “God-knows-what” with The Russians. The worst thing that could happen to Trump is for Mueller to end his investigation of Russian money-laundering schemes in Latvia, Switzerland, Cyprus and Seychelles. For so long as Mueller and his crew are on the job, Trump cannot commit crimes against the United States through any of those Russian money-laundering networks. Think of Mueller as Trump’s MAGA-Condom, George.

  3. ZZZZZ zzzzzz ZZZZZZZ zzzzzz ZZZZ. Mueller’s just wasting more taxpayers money on his wild goose chase leading nowhere. However, the Leftists like JT think this is critical “news” worth reporting. Can you spell B-O-R-I-N-G?

    1. “Methinks the lady doth protest too much” as she “whistles past the graveyard.”

      This is to “but guys, this really can’t be happening, can it”? Ralphie

  4. Critics describe Trump’s former “intelligence analyst”, Gorka, as “fringe” and linked to the alt-right. Gorka’s new gig, adding to his Fox employment, is as a guest lecturer at the Heritage Foundation. Capital and Main and International Business Times recently co-published, “The Conservative Money Behind the Attacks on Labor”. The role of the Heritage Foundation is referenced in the article.
    There were Trump voters who were duped.

  5. Mueller’s not a prosecutor; he’s a medieval knight-errant roaming over hill and dale finding and vanquishing all perceived evil that stands in his way. Doesn’t deal with Russia? No matter! It’s evil and must be crushed. Very Arthurian, romantic and dangerous. It’s the same religious zeal that motivated famed Puritan preacher Jonathan Edwards who wished all sinners banished to the “hands of an angry God”:

    “𝑺𝒐 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕, 𝒕𝒉𝒖𝒔 𝒊𝒕 𝒊𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒏𝒂𝒕𝒖𝒓𝒂𝒍 𝒎𝒆𝒏 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒉𝒆𝒍𝒅 𝒊𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒉𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒐𝒇 𝑮𝒐𝒅, 𝒐𝒗𝒆𝒓 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒑𝒊𝒕 𝒐𝒇 𝒉𝒆𝒍𝒍; 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒚 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒅𝒆𝒔𝒆𝒓𝒗𝒆𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒇𝒊𝒆𝒓𝒚 𝒑𝒊𝒕, 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒂𝒍𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒅𝒚 𝒔𝒆𝒏𝒕𝒆𝒏𝒄𝒆𝒅 𝒕𝒐 𝒊𝒕; 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝑮𝒐𝒅 𝒊𝒔 𝒅𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒅𝒇𝒖𝒍𝒍𝒚 𝒑𝒓𝒐𝒗𝒐𝒌𝒆𝒅, 𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒂𝒏𝒈𝒆𝒓 𝒊𝒔 𝒂𝒔 𝒈𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒕 𝒕𝒐𝒘𝒂𝒓𝒅𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒎 𝒂𝒔 𝒕𝒐 𝒕𝒉𝒐𝒔𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒂𝒄𝒕𝒖𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒚 𝒔𝒖𝒇𝒇𝒆𝒓𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒆𝒙𝒆𝒄𝒖𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏𝒔 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒇𝒊𝒆𝒓𝒄𝒆𝒏𝒆𝒔𝒔 𝒐𝒇 𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒘𝒓𝒂𝒕𝒉 𝒊𝒏 𝒉𝒆𝒍𝒍, 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒚 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒅𝒐𝒏𝒆 𝒏𝒐𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒊𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒍𝒆𝒂𝒔𝒕 𝒕𝒐 𝒂𝒑𝒑𝒆𝒂𝒔𝒆 𝒐𝒓 𝒂𝒃𝒂𝒕𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒂𝒏𝒈𝒆𝒓, 𝒏𝒆𝒊𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓 𝒊𝒔 𝑮𝒐𝒅 𝒊𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒍𝒆𝒂𝒔𝒕 𝒃𝒐𝒖𝒏𝒅 𝒃𝒚 𝒂𝒏𝒚 𝒑𝒓𝒐𝒎𝒊𝒔𝒆 𝒕𝒐 𝒉𝒐𝒍𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒎 𝒖𝒑 𝒐𝒏𝒆 𝒎𝒐𝒎𝒆𝒏𝒕; 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒅𝒆𝒗𝒊𝒍 𝒊𝒔 𝒘𝒂𝒊𝒕𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒇𝒐𝒓 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒎, 𝒉𝒆𝒍𝒍 𝒊𝒔 𝒈𝒂𝒑𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒇𝒐𝒓 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒎, 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒇𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆𝒔 𝒈𝒂𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒇𝒍𝒂𝒔𝒉 𝒂𝒃𝒐𝒖𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒎, 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒘𝒐𝒖𝒍𝒅 𝒇𝒂𝒊𝒏 𝒍𝒂𝒚 𝒉𝒐𝒍𝒅 𝒐𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒎, 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒔𝒘𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒐𝒘 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒎 𝒖𝒑; 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒇𝒊𝒓𝒆 𝒑𝒆𝒏𝒕 𝒖𝒑 𝒊𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒊𝒓 𝒐𝒘𝒏 𝒉𝒆𝒂𝒓𝒕𝒔 𝒊𝒔 𝒔𝒕𝒓𝒖𝒈𝒈𝒍𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒐 𝒃𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒌 𝒐𝒖𝒕: 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒚 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒏𝒐 𝒊𝒏𝒕𝒆𝒓𝒆𝒔𝒕 𝒊𝒏 𝒂𝒏𝒚 𝑴𝒆𝒅𝒊𝒂𝒕𝒐𝒓, 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒏𝒐 𝒎𝒆𝒂𝒏𝒔 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒏 𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒄𝒉 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒄𝒂𝒏 𝒃𝒆 𝒂𝒏𝒚 𝒔𝒆𝒄𝒖𝒓𝒊𝒕𝒚 𝒕𝒐 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒎. 𝑰𝒏 𝒔𝒉𝒐𝒓𝒕, 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒚 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒏𝒐 𝒓𝒆𝒇𝒖𝒈𝒆, 𝒏𝒐𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒐 𝒕𝒂𝒌𝒆 𝒉𝒐𝒍𝒅 𝒐𝒇; 𝒂𝒍𝒍 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒑𝒓𝒆𝒔𝒆𝒓𝒗𝒆𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒎 𝒆𝒗𝒆𝒓𝒚 𝒎𝒐𝒎𝒆𝒏𝒕 𝒊𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒎𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒂𝒓𝒃𝒊𝒕𝒓𝒂𝒓𝒚 𝒘𝒊𝒍𝒍, 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒖𝒏𝒄𝒐𝒗𝒆𝒏𝒂𝒏𝒕𝒆𝒅, 𝒖𝒏𝒐𝒃𝒍𝒊𝒈𝒆𝒅 𝒇𝒐𝒓𝒃𝒆𝒂𝒓𝒂𝒏𝒄𝒆 𝒐𝒇 𝒂𝒏 𝒊𝒏𝒄𝒆𝒏𝒔𝒆𝒅 𝑮𝒐𝒅.”

    I can smell the fire and brimstone.

  6. We are living in some very interesting times. Who would President Pence tap for AG to aggressively prosecute all who have violated the law?

      1. Yeah, because he did such a great job going after HRC, 12 hours under oath under TV lights and all he got was flop sweat out of Trey.

    1. One would have to wait seven years no eight years to find that out but in time he will be able to exhibit his own not inconsiderable skills.

  7. While only a handful of failing to file as a foreign agent cases have ever been prosecuted, NONE of them have ever involved the National Security Advisor, the person entrusted to guard our nations top secrets. Turkey has over a half a million dollars invested in Flynn. His NSA salary was only $179,000. His loyalty is to his most generous benefactor which isn’t the United States, the country that fired him after a four decades long career. The only question is, how much of Flynn’s foreign agent activities Trump knew. Because if he knew anything at all, he knew everything. That’s how conspiracies are prosecuted. It’s also why even low level people get such harsh sentences in conspiracy cases. ANYONE that knew of criminal activity and looked the other way will be sitting in a prison cell for a long time.

    1. Allegedly, Flynn hawked the idea of an industry consortium to build nuclear reactors which included the U.S. and Russia. Trump’s judgement in choosing Flynn as national security advisor was appalling. If the appointment was part of a deal linked to financial benefit, no consequence is too great.

    2. A ringing indictment of and warning to anyone who ever staffed for Clinton. But Meuller can only cover for er so long and so far. Eventually and probably as a result of looking to get votes not lose votes the Comey slip up in citing a non existent element of the Hillary crimes will bear fruit. Why? Because she believed without checking and openly confessed based on false protection. Collusion is not a crime and INTENT is not an element of National Security crimes.

      1. Again- the “What about…ism”. BTW, Clinton was sidelined by the vote i.e. not in government.

      2. Haha. He said “Hillary crimes.” As if no one had ever investigated her over the last 30 years. You’re being paid with a reality check, playa.

        This is to the guy whose identity is so secret he mustn’t even use a name

    3. Dave DC:

      “Because if he knew anything at all, he knew everything. That’s how conspiracies are prosecuted.”


      That’s an interesting take on things. I knew Patty Hearst was kidnapped by the Symbionese Liberation Army almost immediately after it happened like millions of other Americans and I, like most Americans, did nothing about it. Should we all call our defense counsel and advise them that conspiracy charges for kidnap are in the offing?

          1. All’s fair in Lawfare. This entire process should expose our justice system for the two-tiered system that it is.

            1. When it comes to the Justice System, is precedent irrelevant? More specifically, if Clinton’s violations of the handling of classified material was determined to be reckless but without criminal intent by James Comey and the FBI, then isn’t that high bar for law enforcement relevant to future investigations? Conversely, if intent is not in the statute and current investigations actually follow the law as written, then wouldn’t it be reasonable to cite the what about-ism in defense?

              1. Would “reckless” and/or benign “intent” go by the wayside as a defense if a person of interest was asked specifically to identify contacts and deliberately omitted the ones that were known to be problematic?

                “What about…isms” are spawned from false equivalencies

                1. “What about…isms” are spawned from false equivalencies.

                  Not necessarily true. They may be spawned from false equivalencies and they may be spawned based on reasonable precedent. Isn’t Case Law an example of looking back (what about?) to see how previous cases were settled?

                  All the what about whining happening today is a transparent attempt to hold a legal double-standard without debate.

  8. “Trophy defendant for Mueller” trivializes one of the most grave threats to face the nation. Mueller is investigating the peril of a United States government controlled by the Kremlin.

  9. I am waiting for Mueller’s investigation into Melanija Knavs, an obvious Kremlin operative.

  10. First, Turley said, “While this case may be endlessly entertaining for some and Mueller may “love surprises,” these people, including Trump himself, are not props in some progressive fantasy production.”

    Second, Turley said, “The most serious threat of flipping Flynn might be to Manafort, former CIA director James Woolsey, or Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner.”

    Turley, being Turley, (a.k.a. what Shakespeare called “a piece of work, Man”), prefers those people who can be made props in some moderate/centrist fantasy production. To wit, notice Turley’s naming of the name, James Woolsey. One wonders whether any of the old-timer, normie, blawg-hounds, here, have any insider knowledge of Turley’s apparent grudge against James Woolsey. Or would that be one of those “surprises” that Mueller supposedly loves?

    In the interest of disclosure, I couldn’t care less about Woolsey, one way or the other. If anything, Woolsey strikes me as the same sort of fence-straddling, moderate/centrist, now-he’s-D-now-he’s-R sort of “swamp creature” as our beloved host, or even Bobby Three-Sticks, for that matter. Why can’t these guys play nicely with one another? Because one of them gets hired while the other two don’t? It can’t be that base? Can it?

    1. Whatever Woolsey is he’s no moderate centrist unless you are speaking of the center of the left and not the true center which in a Constitutional Republic IS The Constitution and not the center of fantasy land.

      1. Closed Parentheses, you didn’t read the link I provided. Here’s a synopsis: Woolsey’s role as an adviser to the Trump campaign and the Trump transition team were cover stories for Woolsey’s true role as an undercover agent for the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division. Woolsey infiltrated Team Trump and informed against Team Trump. Woolsey is not a target of Mueller’s investigation. Woolsey was and still is an agent of Mueller’s investigation.

        Turley bet his money on a bobtailed nag and is desperately trying to coax his blawg-hounds into betting on the bay. Doo-dah. Doo-dah. All the live-long day.

  11. This is the first Flynn photo where he has a smile on his face. The media posts all these photos of him looking like stern mistress.
    Trump, trump bo bump. Bannana fanna fo fump. Fee fi moe bump.
    Moe, Larry, Cheese.

  12. I think it’s quite interesting to hear Alan Dershowitz discuss the Mueller investigation. Anything but what it should be.

    1. Yes, I read that, too, Zambini. Dershowitz complains that politics in America has been criminalized; and that American politicans and their political parties are the ones whodunit. While Dershowitz may well have a valid point to make, I have an alternate theory that I call “Fighting FUBAR with FUBAR.”

      No. Seriously. Just as fire-jumpers fight fire with fire by making fire breaks that contain the spread of wildfires, so too do special counsels and their investigators–FUBAR-jumpers, if you will–fight FUBAR with FUBAR by making little investigative FUBAR breaks to contain the spread of unchecked, imbalanced Executive FUBAR.

      Please do not be alarmed. And don’t panic, either. Mueller and his crew are actually the very best thing that could possibly have been done for Trump. The special counsel’s investigation has made a system of FUBAR breaks to contain the Russian money-laundering networks in Latvia, Switzerland, Cyrprus and Seychelles that would otherwise have “fueled” a great FUBAR conflagration in the Trump administration. Thus, because of Mueller’s vigilant efforts, DJ Trump will most likely serve out the remainder of his one and only term of office as your President of the United States. And the rest of the country might pull through as well. Or not.

      Keep Mueller mulling. Mull Bobby mull.

  13. Mueller, as FBI Chief, counseled Soweto bin Bama that Soweto may have the right to assassinate, with no judicial charge, American citizens on US soil. A real American patriot who honors his oath to enforce the US Constitution, that Mueller is.

    Soweto did in fact assassinate at least two Muslim American citizens on Soweto’s confidential so-called “Kill List,” father and minor son both named Anwar Al Awlaki, and both not on US soil. Soweto says the minor’s assassination was an “accident,” for which Soweto apologized (very tenderly, as always).

    Soweto, another great and wise Constitutional scholar/teacher, was just doing his due diligence with Mueller in case someone on Soweto’s Kill List required a drone missile in Miami or Scarsdale, ya know. All in a crime fighter’s normal day of making the world “safe for democracy,” a term coined by the Woodrow Wilson admin to justify US involvement in WW1 (a war in which Europe borrowed billions of dollars, then not only flipped the US off and ignored the debt, but mocked Yankees for being suckers to loan the money in the first place….no relationship to current NATO financing, no, not at all).

    I’m sure hundreds of thousands of previously moderate Muslims appreciate Soweto’s apology, and harbor no ill will toward Americans for minor Al Awlaki’s death. These previously moderate Muslims realize how much Soweto loves all the world’s chil’un. I feel so bad for Soweto’s heavy heart on this subject. You can tell it just eats him up.

    All points true, but /sarc off Re. my feelings.

    1. You may be interested to know that former President Barack HUSSEIN Obama was not only the greatest President since Harry Truman, but he also had “access” to the white women prior to his marriage.

      This is to “let’s start a klavern” jonesy

      1. Marky Mark Mark – in a hundred years Obama will be listed among the very worst Presidents of all time. You just have your beer goggles on now.

  14. Mueller still seems to be making a case out of whole cloth. Personally, I could care less about Jared, but if they get Jared they have to go after Hillary who set him up. So, what is it going to be for Mueller? He is spending a lot of our money on non-Russian things.

    1. I’ve somehow missed how, Hillary set up Kushner, getting him involved in all the meetings with Russians, trying to create secret back channels and shady business deals. How?

      1. enigma – the woman that met with Kushner met immediately before and after with Hillary’s surrogates. Couldn’t have been cozier. In this case, the buck stops at the top and Hillary is at the top. Although she has never taken responsibility for anything. I am surprised she took responsibility for Chelsea. 😉

        1. The lawyer didn’t set up the meeting. That was all Jr. and his father’s Russian friends. You’re taking the blame Hillary or Obama for everything to a brand new level.

  15. If Flynn cut a plea agreement with Mueller, it may be the mistake of his life. All he’ll be getting is a plea to lesser charges and a recommendation on sentencing. The judge doesn’t have to accept the plea. He can throw the book at Flynn. Thus he’s taking a big risk, as he could end up doing time. I would rather trust Trump to give me a full pardon if I kept my yap shut.

    1. Tin

      How could anybody trust Trump. The man’s has no integrity, is constantly fabricating the truth, and more often than not makes no reference to the issues at hand only to focus on himself and how he rescued the economy from the worst recession ever in the history of the world caused by Obama. Obama could say that Flynn was working for the Russians and Clinton to undermine the United States even worse himself, Trump. There are enough mindless Trump worshippers that to Trump they would be the hugest majority, ever. Flynn would be better off seeking any breaks from the courts.

      1. Because anyone does not include foreign interventionests from the DNCs foreign wing up in Canada including the mindless Comrade Issac Bacon Sandvich. No worries can’t claim ad hominemt unless a human is involved and machine parts of The Collective don’t count.

      2. And now we have da two deranged men Kimmy and Donny getting ready to lead us into nuclear war while the m a g a s cheer.

        1. Sure, and we also have the fraud known as Barack Hussein Obama flying around the world meeting with world leaders DURING the first year of Trump’s presidency. Since leaving office in January, Barry O has met with Merkel in Germany, Trudeau in Canada, and Macri of Argentina. Now Barry will be meeting with world leaders on his upcoming trip to China, India and France. On what planet is this considered normal or appropriate action by a recent former president? It’s not. It is a gross breach of decorum that undermines the current president. But as usual the media will continue protecting their pal Obama. And Issac B. of Canada will continue his mindless worship of the fraud known as Barry from Honolulu.

          1. Hussein Hussein we ma g a s know Obama is a secret Muslim with a fake birth certificate. Blah blah blah!

              1. T rump has Obama beat then. T rump is a fraud a niutbag and a grabber of da private ladies parts. Sadie Sanders
                Lies for da T rump. Spicey is da lucky one. He left da hell hole.

          2. Trump’s “breaches of decorum” (oh, say like his tweets) are so unprecedented that no one else could possibly join his league. Wasn’t it found recently that Trump’s comments include 5 veriable lies a day?
            Have you seen the humorous videos of various countries spoofing about how “Sure, America can be first but, can we be second?” Trump’s lack of respect for other people and nations is way beyond a lack of decorum.
            For America’s sake, we can hope someone takes the initiative to bolster the U.S. image abroad.

            1. Yes indeed, Trump is unprecedented, indecorous…and all of that. But he’s doing just fine given what’s he’s up against. I would say it is far more unprecedented and indecorous to have a recent former president keeping such a high profile traveling the world meeting with world leaders and undermining a sitting president during his first year in office. But the media will stay silent or spin it favorably for Obama, of course.

      3. How could anybody trust Trump you ask? Same way they could all trust Obama. The deity you mindlessly worshipped for eight years lied to and manipulated the American people over and over again, spied on the American people, spied on journalists, doubled the national debt, decimated the military, secretly flew pallets of cash in the middle of the night to Iran as they chanted ‘death to America’, celebrated a military deserter with a Rose Garden ceremony, weaponized the IRS against his political enemies, corrupted the DOJ, corrupted every agency he touched, incited race wars and riots in our cities, and is now flying around meeting with world leaders to undermine Trump’s presidency. WTF is up with that?

        But all of the lying, wrongdoing and breaches of decorum done by your beloved BJO was and will continue to be covered up by the MSM which is how the fraud got away with it all and got elected in the first place.

        1. Very good post TBob.

          What the Left fails to accept is that Conservatives will not support any administration that would do what you listed. We want the corrupt political class decimated. One tier of justice. For some reason they believe our loyalty is to a political party first. And in that they are wrong.

      4. And I agree with TIN that Flynn can trust Trump. Trump knows the man Flynn is. Flynn knows the dirty dealings of the Obama admin. Trump will do right by Flynn. Mueller is not to be trusted.

          1. Silly niutbag, it’s da other way around. Flynn is a true patriot with a more than three decade career in the army. He called out the ‘politicizing of intelligence’ that was going on and he criticized Obama on his ‘politically correct’ but otherwise losing strategy on the war on terror…and that got him fired. Read his book Fields of Flight.

            1. Mikey Flynn and his son have that deranged look in the eye. T rump basebots love da look.

              1. Well, Flynn is a Democrat and we know how deranged they have all been for a while now. But I don’t think Flynn or his son are suffering from the Trump Derangement Syndrome.

                I was thrown off by your use of the words ‘that’ and ‘the.’ I was expecting to read: ‘da deranged look in da eye’…

                Keep up da good work Ken. It seems you are making progress in your language skills. 😉

                  1. I have no idea what that means Ken. “Before it is too late”? That sounds almost like a threat against ‘our’ orange buffoon. Yes, he’s your buffoon of a POTUS too, Ken. “Not my president” is a total denial of reality, unless you are referring to Hillary Clinton. In that case it would be 100% true: Hillary is not my president. Booyah!

                    1. Ah, of course. Trump is probably demented and psychotic. Could be true. Or not. Time will tell. However, I do think that if both Hillary and Donald had their heads examined by an independent medical doctor, as I believe all presidential nominees should be required to do, the results would have been surprisingly negative for Hillary and surprisingly positive for Trump.

                      Hillary has a long history of fainting, falling, collapsing, and breaking bones, along with suffering from concussions, double-vision, violent outburts, throwing objects at people, over-drinking Chardonnay, pathological lying, cursing, cheating, threatening, exaggerating, exercising really bad judgment, and a decades long track record of making catastrophically bad decisions – as most recently evidenced by her poorly run billion-dollar presidential campaign. But sure, you go on believing that Trump is demented and psychotic and Hillary would have been a better choice to lead the country.

                    2. Forgot to add that Hillary has a history of blood clots in her head – blood clots! – and takes Coumadin, which is an anticoagulant medication also used as rat poison.

        1. Flynn might a greedy bast..rd but he ain’t dumb enough to
          Trust a known
          Pathological liar with reality problems. Flynn talks
          But does he walk.

    2. TIN

      Flynn will cut a deal to save his son. Any benefit to himself will be secondary. This scenario plays out regularly in other cases. Flynn will be reminded of Andy Fastow and his wife Lea in the Enron case. Andy was offered a plea deal which would have allowed Lea to walk. He rejected that deal, and both Andy and Lea ended up being convicted and sentenced to prison.

      And I concur with Issac that Flynn should not trust Trump to do anything except look out for Trump himself.

  16. I hope everyone here in the JT Community agree that Gen Flynn himself is in serious difficultly due to his oversights–for someone who called for HIllary’s impeachment, interesting how things can turn…..

    1. It is interesting how things can turn, and you’re right about Flynn — though his troubles seem to have more to do with working for Turkish intermediaries than anything publicly known about his contact with Russian officials. That said, I can’t help but roll my eyes at the endless forecasting of the end of Trump; all they’re doing is turning this inquiry into a cheesy side-show.

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