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The Politics of Treason: Both Trump and The Democrats Are Reckless In Calling Each Other Traitors

Degradation_alfred_dreyfusBelow is my column in USA Today on the increasing talk of treason by both Democrats and Trump in recent weeks.  President Donald Trump has indicated that his comments about Democrats being traitors was only a joke.  That is hardly compelling in a speech that also denounced the Democrats as “unAmerican.”  Clearly, many in the audience do not take such comments as a joke.  At the same time, many Democrats have been calling Trump or his family traitors in the actual rather than rhetorical sense. There is no basis on the existing evidence to charge Trump with treason. These comments are equally reckless and unfounded.  The Framers sought to remove this charge from the political discourse by not just adopting a narrow definition but incorporating that definition into the Constitution.

Here is the column:

Suddenly Washington appears to be a den of traitors. For months, various Democratic politicians and commentators have all but accused President Trump or his family of treason. Now Trump has said Democratic lawmakers who failed to clap at his State of the Union address are “un-American” and traitors.

These accusations reflect the distemper that has taken hold of our politics. Calling opponents traitors has a long and dark history in our country — a history we would be wise not to repeat.

Not long after the president’s inauguration, Democrats began alleging more and more serious crimes committed by Trump and his family. For months, commentators and lawmakers referred incorrectly to the crime of collusion with Russians — despite the absence of such a crime in the federal code. It then became allegations of obstruction or loosely defined conspiracies or election fraud.

Soon, politicians like Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., said “treason” might potentially be the appropriate crime to investigate in relation to Donald Trump Jr.’s meeting with Russianswho said they had evidence of illegal donations to the Clinton Foundation. Richard Painter, chief ethics lawyer for former president George W. Bush, agreed that “the dictionary definition” of treason and the “common understanding” is “a betrayal of one’s country, and in particular, the helping of a foreign adversary against one’s own country.” Former Watergate prosecutor Nick Ackerman declared that Don Jr.’s emails about the meeting were “almost a smoking cannon” and added that “there’s almost no question this is treason.”

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Even former Trump adviser Steve Bannon called the Trump Tower meeting with the Russians “treasonous.” And Rep. Seth Moulton, D-Mass., declared of Don Jr.’s eagerness to get the Russian dirt on Hillary Clinton, “If this isn’t treasonous, I’m not sure what is.”

Indeed, there is a lot of that confusion going around, Rep. Moulton. In speaking with workers at a Sheffer factory in Cincinnati, Trump at first described the Democrats as emanating “bad energy” but then racheted up to “un-American” and, as with the Democrats, had only one place to go from there: “Somebody said treasonous,” he said. “I mean, yeah, I guess, why not. Can we call that treason? Why not?”

“Why not” is precisely the question that seems to motivate many in playing the politics of treason.

At the start of our Republic, the Federalists and Jeffersonians were not just acting like they wanted to kill each other, they were actually trying to kill each other. John Adams was more than eager to use the Alien and Sedition Acts to arrest his opponents and subject them to possible death penalties for political speech. Russian collusion was not a thing but collusion with England (by Federalists) and France (by Jeffersonians) was all the rage as treasonous associations. Indeed, some Federalists referred to the Jeffersonians as “Jacobins” — a reference to French radicals that the English often used as synonymous with traitors.

It is not as if real treason was nowhere to be found in those days. There was of course the infamous Benedict Arnold who sought to give the plans to West Point to the British during the war (and then led troops against his countrymen). Former Vice President Aaron Burr was accused of planning to carve out parts of the Southwest and Mexico for a new nation. He was arrested for treason under former president Thomas Jefferson, but was acquitted.

James Madison was worried that our politicians would follow the European abuses in labeling their adversaries as traitors as a way of arresting them and seizing their property. Madison believed that he could deter such abuse with a formal constitutional definition. In Federalist 43, he wrote that “new-fangled and artificial treasons have been the great engines by which violent factions, the natural offspring of free governments, have usually wreaked their alternate malignity on each other.” He noted that the Framers “with great judgment opposed a barrier to this peculiar danger by inserting a Constitutional definition of the crime.”

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This language, part of Article III, Section 3, says “treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.” The framers went even further to limit the use of this charge by stipulating that “No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.”

So with such a clear constitutional definition and intent from the framers, why do we still have so much talk of treason? The answer is that some politicians cannot resist labeling opponents threats to the nation. Democrats like Kaine are using treason to mean an actual criminal charge while Trump is using it more in a rhetorical sense, but both uses are reckless.

From the Sedition period to the Joe McCarthy period to civil rights marchers and Vietnam protects, our history is replete with politicians who showed the same “why not?” attitude toward treason. The answer should not be simply that it does not fit with our definition; it does not fit with our values.

Politicians who traffic in the rhetoric of treason are betraying more than their oaths to uphold the Constitution, they are betraying us — a pluralistic people bonded to each other by a common constitutional covenant. We have learned from painful experience that those who are the first to cry “treason” are the last to support our freedoms. We are all Jacobins when we defy our government or our neighbors, but that defiance is what defines us as a free people.

Jonathan Turley, a member of USA TODAY’s Board of Contributors, is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University, where he teaches constitutional and tort law. Follow him on Twitter: @JonathanTurley

244 thoughts on “The Politics of Treason: Both Trump and The Democrats Are Reckless In Calling Each Other Traitors”

  1. Outside JT trying to both sides do it too crap, Why is it that the right hears things they don’t like and it’s fake news? They get pulled in every time with fake news with OHHHH, this is the one, OHHH, no, this is the one….OHHHH, what about that FOX NEWS report? I’ll wait for the final report on Trump, but sticking up for this guy might come back and bite you all in the arse.

  2. giving aid and comfort.

    Would the Framers consider this to be treason? Hypothetically, of course.

    In his written testimony Campbell accused Obama administration officials “of making decisions that ended up benefitting the Russian nuclear industry, which he said was seeking to build a monopoly in the global uranium market to help President Vladimir Putin seek a geopolitical advantage over the United States. ”

    https://lidblog.com/uranium-one-informant-clintons/

    1. Olly, in order for the framers to consider the Uranium One sale to be treason, the Russian Federation would have to have been an enemy of The United States, or a State thereof, at the time that the aid and comfort had been given over to them. And even then you would need two witnesses or a confession.

      P. S. No ex post facto law.

      1. So if someone provided aid and comfort to a foreign entity (for personal gain) not declared an enemy of the United States, and that entity used that aid and comfort to attack the United States, then that someone would not be subject to a charge of treason?

        Wow! That someone might be able to dodge a treason charge, but God forbid that someone EVER be entrusted with ANY government power.

        1. There might be other laws available to charge such a person with a crime. Besides, we’ve been giving or selling military weapons to other countries and even to non-state military forces pretty much every day now. If any of those weapons were ever used to levy war against the armed forces of The United States, would we charge “someone” with treason? What if the “someone” in that scenario were The U. S. Congress and The POTUS? Would two out of three branches of the federal government have to be hanged from the neck until dead? Wait a minute. Please don’t answer that question. I’m afeared of what your answer might be, Chief. Timing is everything–the comedians say. So I figure timing might as well be a critical issue in cases of treason as well as in cases of comedy.

  3. More popcorn please!

    CONCLUSION:
    The Democratic staff of HPSCI is committed to uncovering all of the facts related to this investigation and following them wherever they may lead, so long as the place to which they lead conforms with our pre-determined conclusion that Mr. Trump and all of his subordinates committed an impeachable and felonious crime of some kind, and that each additional half-second of his presidency constitutes a mortal danger to every person on Planet Earth.

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/02/07/nyt-editorial-board-authorizes-release-of-democrat-memo-on-trump/?utm_source=The+Federalist+List&utm_campaign=1ae02fe6d3-RSS_The_Federalist_Daily_Updates_w_Transom&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_cfcb868ceb-1ae02fe6d3-79248369

  4. Reported by Homeland Security- Russians got access to voter registration rolls in a small number of states.

    Given that the Russians worked to get Trump elected, any conclusion that points the finger of aiding a foreign enemy anywhere, but in the GOP direction, is a deliberate lie (Hannity).

    1. Source, date of publication, etc etc etc etc. Sorry Comrade Linda your programmer failed you again.

      1. It’s called real news from real sources, not FOX, Rush, Sean, Alex, NewsMax, Glenn Beck, and any other wackcos that tells you what you want to hear.

        1. It’s called real news from real sources,

          Then why didn’t you provide the link for the real news from the real source? Why keep it a secret if it’s that reliable of a source?

          1. Does everybody from the right have to have things spelled out for them, it seems to be the one thing they always fall back on. You can use a computer so, look it up. Or did your dog eat your Google page?

            1. Your comment your job is to support it. That’s how debate works. If you do not your premise is rejected as unsupported. and .. .we don’t change diapers.

            2. Does everybody from the right have to have things spelled out for them, it seems to be the one thing they always fall back on.

              Those silly conservatives always concerned with the the little things like trying to find original sources for information. You apparently don’t realize that complaining about where conservatives get their news from and then complaining that conservatives ask you for your source(s) for news, is nothing more than whining. Speaking for myself, I am always looking for reliable (factual and verifiable) sources for news.

              If you can’t or won’t provide the link, then you must not trust the source to be reliable.

              1. Even conservatives are against Trump, As for whining, all I have to do is read from you guys and I get my fill.

                1. “As for whining, all I have to do is read from you guys and I get my fill.”

                  That makes two of us.

              2. Trump supporters “trying to find sources…” Nyet.

                Independent research, newly published by Media Matters and others, confirms that the uninformed right wingers rely on junk news sites exclusively. That contrasts with the search habits of the intelligent and informed who vote Democratic while trying to steer the Party to progressive ideals, a winning strategy.

                1. That contrasts with the search habits of the intelligent and informed who vote Democratic while trying to steer the Party to progressive ideals, a winning strategy.

                  Jonathan Gruber targeted that demographic as well.

                  1. Olly,..
                    If Linda represents “intelligent and informed Democratic Party” supporters, that political party will soon be on life support.
                    Unless she’s an,undercover operative trying to show that all Democrats are as whacked out as she is, she’s a remarkably unsuccessful advocate/ operative.

                2. Linda – Media Matters is a wing of the DNC, why would we believe them as a source?

                  1. Children frequently believe what they are told and in the realm of politics, Linda is a child.

                    2. INLegal, unfortunately, some whose mental development has been stunted live in childhood without the ability to develop a mind capable of adult reason.

                  2. Media Matters did not conduct the research. They reported the findings. I identified Media Matters so that those “trying to find sources”, who lack the ability to find original references wouldn’t be frustrated and stymied in their lame attempts. (Media Matters lists the references.)

                    1. They quote one another around and around, just like the FBI did when they sourced elements of the Steele document from the newspapers when it was Steele who planted those stories.

                      I look at the original documents where available and the quotes. That is why you have so much difficulty proving your case. You have almost zero original data in context and others on this blog have real evidence. You toot mindless soundbites out of context.

                    2. The researchers are at Oxford and Harvard. But, Allan prefers “real evidence” created by Infowars and other fake news sites.

                    3. Linda, learn the difference between opinion and fact. Then learn the difference between paraphrasing and quotation. Apparently, your studies didn’t introduce you to the differences.

          1. You guys fell into that one. So, I’m doing YOUR homework for you right? And if I don’t, it’s not real? Get a grip.

        1. Excerpted from the article linked above:

          Head of cyber security at the Department of Homeland Security — Jeanette Manfra — said a “small number” of the 21 states targeted in the efforts were compromised.

          The department also said there is no evidence that any of the rolls were altered in any way.

          Several of the states targeted by Russians, including California and Texas, have told the media they were never attacked.

          Other states said the federal government has not shared much information on the attacks with them.

    2. “Given that the Russians worked to get Trump elected,”

      Linda’s been sandbagged by Media Matters, David Brock’s disinformation machine. Brock’s most important task was to prop up Hillary Clinton no matter what. A smear machine that relies upon the ignorance of its followers.

  5. Being called a “Benedict Arnold” might be better.

    The name “Benedict Arnold” quickly became a byword in the United States for treason or betrayal because he betrayed his countrymen by leading the British army in battle against the men whom he once commanded.

  6. Ridiculous, functionally moronic, false equivalency.

    Trump – Trump’s campaign clearly met with Russians; tried to change US policies to benefit Russian interests in Russia, Ukraine, Middle East and the USA; and has done NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING to defend the US from future Russian disruptions into US elections. Yesterday we heard about stolen voter rolls and NOTHING (except more white house obstruction) from trump and his Russian minions about defending the USA.

    Democrats – following at least recent SOTU practices by both parties, democrats didn’t applaud for the braggadocio of the narcissist’s speech

    If Russians were aiding democrats election contests, virtually every conservative would be screaming treason on a daily basis and allocating tens of billions to defend the country. And I’m not sure I’d disagree. As to why contards are not screaming at the weakling trumps inability to defend the US from foreign adversaries…………..

    2. you might try reading Article III of the Constitution and try to find suport for your contention among other mistakes. Can you for example define misdemeanor, high misdemanor , felony or high felony? If you can do that and present a coherent report i’ll match it against mine bu tother wise …. have to reject your post as a troll no matter which name you are using thiis time.

      Or you might try providing some proofs and if so Mr. Meuller will be very glad to meet with you as …he has none.

      Absent that some proof you are nothing more than programmed machine part and remember it takes a human presence to say ad hominem. so for now we’ll just leave it as ad machina

            2. TBob and Allan evidently think that literacy is a function of fresh diapers.

              But of course they would think that; wouldn’t they?

              2. Diane, in your case those are not fresh diapers, they are Depends. Literacy is a requirement to read the directions which should tell you to use a new Depend each time you spring a leak.

  7. Turley is right. And, for a change, I don’t mind at all agreeing with Turley on this one. Marshall was right, too. A charge of treason ought never be taken lightly by anyone. But that’s exactly what’s going on. There are plenty of people tossing the word treason around as though it carried no more throw-weight than a spit-wad.

    Maybe there should be a litmus-test for the use of the word treason: An enemy of The United States, or a State thereof, should be a “declared” enemy–as in a Congressional declaration of war against that enemy. There might be some exceptions needed for sneak attacks and such-like emergencies. But the alleged traitor at issue would have to have known about, participated in, and aided or comforted, the undeclared enemy who launched the sneak attack or other such emergency. And those exceptions would apply only to sneak attacks and emergencies–not to any military operations in which The United States had already been engaged without a Congressional declaration of war.

    P. S. That litmus-test would only apply to the use of the word treason. O! Bother! Free speech! That’s different. Never mind.

  8. Trump, a traitor? Probably not, but maybe, let’s see the tax returns, let’s let Mueller finish, let’s have that famous transparency that Trump touts out of the side of his mouth that is not shaming America.

    Arguing what is American and what is Constitutionally correct is the process of government that includes free speech. Just as the 2nd amendment is perverted by ignoring the first half and the fact that the conditions that inspired it no longer exist, the concept of treason is also perverted. It took a Supreme Court judge(s) to make the last few words only of the 2nd amendment to mean what the entire piece effectively means today, a judge that was, as all are to some degree, biased. Different judges might have read the entire amendment and taken the times and places into context, resulting in an entirely different outcome.

    Perhaps the healthiest forum includes that criticism of the other side. However, such criticism must be founded in something substantial, unlike the brains of those that simply disagree. Expressing one’s dissatisfaction by not standing for the anthem or other protests makes one a patriot, someone who cares enough to express themselves regarding what they see as what is wrong with a country they love. Mindless adherence to a cause is not patriotism. It is the stuff dictatorships are made of.

    Perhaps the real traitors don’t even know they are traitors. They ignore the issues. They are easily duped by cheap rhetoric, slogans, and hats. Perhaps there is some treason in supporting this dysfunctional system that is not a representative based system but an oligarchy, with the biggest oligarch of all as the President.

    Treason is a dish best served up hot.

    2. the first reference is for we citizens of the United Sates of America and for Isaac a reference for his own country.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason

      To avoid the abuses of the English law, the scope of treason was specifically restricted in the United States Constitution. Article III, section 3 reads as follows: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.
      ‎List of people convicted of … · ‎Treason laws in the United … · ‎High treason
      Treason – The Canadian Encyclopedia
      http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/treason/

      Dec 16, 2013 – A person commits “treason” who a) uses force or violence for the purpose of overthrowing the government of Canada or a province, b) discloses, without lawful authority, military or scientific material to agents of a foreign state, if he or she knows or should know that the material may be used to impair Canada’s safety …

    3. Wow, just yesterday Isaac wrote: “There has not been a traitor the likes of Trump for some time, perhaps since the scumbag that took over after Lincoln.”

      Today Isaac says: “Trump, a traitor? Probably not, but maybe, let’s see…”

      Progress, my friend. Progress. 😉

  9. The Demoncrat party is a party of Marxists. Demoncrats and RINO Republicans are globalists and globalization is the ideology of Marxism, i.e. International Socialism. That means they are subverting this nation—hence Traitors. Treason IS being conducted in this country by Rockefeller Republicans, RINO Republicans, the churches, and all the educational institutions. There is a blog out in the internet called “The Age of Treason”. He is most certainly right. McCain, Graham, Rubio and others all for amnesty—that is Treason. So yes, Trump is right–the Left is the party of Traitors and so is much of the Repuke party.

  10. or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.

    Is there a statute of limitations for treason? INLegalEagle mentioned Pandora’s Box. This cold get messy very quickly. If we start pulling on that thread…Bring it on!

    1. OLLY – I know I am being a pedant here but this drives me crazy. It is Pandora’s Vase or Jar (depending on the translation), they did not have boxes in those days.

      1. but this drives me crazy.

        Paul,
        So in a mythological tale they didn’t have a mythological box? I would say when facts described in mythology drive you nuts, you have reached your destination. 😉

          1. I used to teach both Classical and World Mythology.

            The operative word there is Mythology. By the way, I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express. So I’ve got that going for me.

            1. Olly – I used to teach Christian mythology when I taught World Mythology. Remember, today’s religion is tomorrow’s mythology. Both the Romans and the Greeks were very religious people. And who is to say that they were not right? I also taught World Religions which affirmed my belief in agnosticism.

        2. Paul is right:

          The word now translated as “box” was actually a large jar (πίθος pithos) in the Greek. It was used for storage of wine, oil, grain or other provisions, or, ritually, as a container for a human body for burying, from which it was believed souls escaped and necessarily returned. Many scholars see a close analogy between Pandora herself, who was made from clay, and the clay jar which dispenses evils.

          The mistranslation of pithos is usually attributed to the 16th century humanist Erasmus who, in his Latin account of the story of Pandora, changed the Greek pithos to pyxis, meaning “box”. The context in which the story appeared was Erasmus’ collection of proverbs, the Adagia (1508), in illustration of the Latin saying Malo accepto stultus sapit (from experiencing trouble a fool is made wise). In his version the box is opened by Epimetheus, whose name means ‘Afterthought’ – or as Hesiod comments, “he whom mistakes made wise”.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora's_box (footnotes omitted).

          1. Thanks Porkchop. I didn’t doubt Paul’s claim; it was more about him deciding to pick the fly$hit out of the pepper when the point wasn’t about the fly$hit or the pepper.

            1. OLLY – God made me a gadfly and I have been this way my entire life. Imaging being one of my teachers. 😉

          2. That explains why a Priest’s portable communion kit is called a “pyx”. Thanks, Porkchop!

      2. Ha ! Paul – good info and I will make note of it. Whatever the Pandora vessel is called – opening it was key.

        I think Trump has created a ‘jack-in-the-box’ from what he’s discovered in there. Remember those? Trump winds ever so slightly and POP ….. goes the weasel.

        https://youtu.be/L39XBKcttx4

        1. When the box pops open that scares the likes of Fishwings and Linda so they blather inanities instead of useful factual information.

      3. They had an early form which we would call a trunk or a satchel. made of wood, metal or leather.

    2. You will find your answer in the Constitution If it is not there Amendments Nine and Ten apply.

  11. Trump, a brash builder from Queens, was hired in great part to open the pandora’s box of a corrupt infested government. Turns out, bringing in an outsider was the best decision the citizenry could have made. The abject panic of the incestuous swamp speaks for itself. They are unraveling, falling apart, and outing themselves with really very little effort by Trump. Meanwhile, Mr. Turley is stuck on sensitivities of ‘unsavory word’ minutia.

    Buck up ‘Professor’ ……….

      2. David, Did you have that much trouble understanding a simple comment made by INLegal? Do you need help? Should he use smaller words or bigger print?

    2. Just cause you are born rich in Queens does not give you da right to assault women and call people traitors. Another man that abused women is leavin the wretched administration. How about da boss T rump?

      1. just because you were born in Arkansas does not give you the right to be a sexual predator nor your wife the right to be an enabler and victimizer of women. I am so glad the new investigation of Clintons plural started by the AG is beginning in Little Rock and using outside of DC area agent.s

    3. that’s a fair description of what those of us who are in that group who controlled the election wanted to accomplish. do the math we are credited with 40% the two parties took second and third place dividing up the remaining 60% Our main goal was defeating Clinton followed by defeating the DNC followed by the RINOs in order of importance. Our main objective was, as you said, bringing in an outsider a non politician to do exactly what you said.

      Another definition is we ran a successful counter revolution phase I against the sociailst progressives.

      We are a wide variety of groups but much of the leadership came from off duty active military who followed their oath of office and chose ballots over bullets and former and retired military and a number of what is called populist groups and a number of breakaways and a goodly number who had never registered nor voted before Zero budget just to rub it in.

      Be nice to JT lawyers deal in verbal minutia. But like my group have to set aside subjective mysticism for objective reality.

      For that reason apply the flip side to see a ready explanation of why the supporters of the socialist sides six or seven or nine divided fractions rarely if ever offer any sort of factual support and normally deal in …. here it comes.. dialectic wall bouncing.

      1. In the end the only numbers that mattered were 55% Trump 45% Clinton and the rest was just a national popularity poll of votes in excess of need. However to prove my point a repeal of change of he electoral system has been started 700 plus times and never gets out of Congress. This time i believe only Feinstein made the attempt. but it had no support. As for the excess to need they are still laying on their couch potato asses doing …nothing.

    4. “Meanwhile, Mr. Turley is stuck on sensitivities of ‘unsavory word’ minutia.”

      You got it.

  12. A president who makes “jokes” about treason isn’t much of a president at least not of the USA. Sorry folks but it was no joke. His minions have suggested that questioning the president is not permitted. The mindset in the WH seems to be nothing the President does or for that matter the Republicans do can be questioned.

    I realize my comment will not be welcome here but so be it.

    1. Justice Holmes, you are wrong. Your comment is most welcome here. Thank you.

    2. Not at all we had much the same opinion of Obama when he took the oath of office and immediaely violated same and did so for eight years. In balance you just need to broaden your view and rememver the two parties split 60% of the vote while the people you ignore controlled the outcome with 40%. A classic mistake of an arrogant nouvelle aristocratie attitude. You ignored your former base as did your RINO compadres and lost it.

  13. Trees do not have sons or daughters. The tree’s seeds will grow another tree but there is no birth from one tree to the next. Confabulating the words “tree” and “son” does mix things up a bit politically. A baby oak may not be reliable friend to big oak ten feet away. To inject oak tree behavior into politics is not right. It is not far left either. “Treason” is a word similar to “liberal”. A liberal may have no loyalty to his nation state. In days of old a liberal was easy to define. Today a liberal human can be of many different stripes. A liberal may be for civil rights and against Jim Crow. But he may also be for welfare benefits for the masses. A conservative may be in favor of ending food stamps. Actually food stamps have been eliminated. Instead of a booklet of stamps, the recipient gets a credit card with some monetary value. These are quicker at the check out line.
    There are people in America who call our President a Nazi. That is not true. He has not even called out for the elimination of food stamps or housing projects. A conservative may not have the ability to grab a women’s private parts. Trump has bragged about his past history. Trump is somewhat of a Progressive. He won’t pay for sex at a whorehouse but will pay by more subtle means. To say that a male who pays for sex is conducting reason is wrong. A queer is more likely to conduct treason. A queer is without reason. Ask that media dork named Anderson Cooper to describe Trump. Ask him to describe an adult tree and a baby tree. CNN is treason. Fox News is truth, justice and the American way.

      1. Getting that way but it is all that is left in the main stream since the others followed their true base and became lame stream propagandists

      1. Now THAT is a factual statement. Political meanings of liberal are outsiders trying to be insiders and it’s opposite is consercative means insiders trying to maintain control. Both are overworked garbage words at present but suffice to say the definition of the less courtesy of George Lykoff is a conservative is anyone who disagrees with the progressive socialists – the rest of us he is blind to our existence.

  16. A constitutional covenant? How about the bill of rights? How about the responsibility not to lie to a FISA judge. Senator Kaine sounds so lame because his party could not take their lumps. 24 Hour News that skews. Those Omnipowerful Reds (I mean Russians) under the bed. Be so afraid. Oh, yeah, Senator Flake (can’t make that name up) said our president was ‘Stalin-esque.’
    It is time to sing:
    Land of Treason. Waste no reason. We are breathing fire. We’re packs-of-dogs. We’re enemies of men. We are not desired.

  17. Maybe Professor Stephen Cohen might just be right about this being “Russiagate”.

    1. It is for sure but the gate is at the end of a path that didn’t count on being discovered

  18. It is politics and you play to your base, Trump to his, the Democrats (who are bankrupt) to theirs. One of the things I have always liked about American politics is that it can get wild and wooly at times. It is a blood sport.

    1. Nice. Meanwhile the rest of us are close to becoming a majority as the second and third place finishers duke it out.

  19. One without reason can jump up to treason. Trump can be a bit yakkity yak. But. He is better than Hillary. He is not as bad as many make him out to be. He miscalculated the reaction from the military industrial complex when he yakked about military parades. Trump is from New York. That is almost a foreign country. On the Dem side you have Bernie and Hillary. Jeso.

  20. Trump is merely the Good Wrestler, who is smart enough to pick up a folding metal chair and whack the Bad Wrestler over the head, after having been whacked the same way by the Bad Wrestler. Which doesn’t make Folding Metal Chair Fu “legal”, but it does make it understandable. And, forgivable for the Good Wrestler.

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

    1. That’s a very interesting observation Squeeky. Always taken note of that. One of my favorite examples (this goes back a bit…) was when Bjorn Borg became very successful, very quickly. He decided to move to Monaco, and that was deemed as very unpatriotic of him at the time. Following him was Mats Wilander, also a speedy player of unflappable mental fortitude. He became very successful quickly (won the French Open at 17 in ’82) and promptly moved to Monaco. The Swedes were like, “of course, wouldn’t you??,” in stark contrast of what Borg was chastised for.

      It also explains how what starts as small transgressions from a marginally intelligent group (government) multiplies over time until you have a complete failing mess. Similar to the entropy of cancer. I believe that is a fitting illustration. Saw an article yesterday that Russian hands were “all over another set of ballot machines” or whatever. This follows the revelation that the NSA or CIA or F-US have malware that can simulate any source for a hack. Why we choose to believe these people is beyond me.

      Pass the popcorn.

    2. Hey Squeeky,

      I find that analogy to be perfect because never has politics been this entertaining. Trump is clearly having fun, and it is infectious. I don’t believe I’ve ever felt so good! Although that is also due in large to some major life changing decisions I made, but still!
      Sh*thole was the funniest to date, and then Treason! I’m DYING over here!

        1. the last resort of the left …. is the the world of four letter words. as Ken just demonstrated. Another one is deny.

      2. True. The Democratic hysteria is morbidly hilarious! However, just like Gotterdammerung (Ragnorak) where the forces of evil and chaos destroy the world, the Democrats will successfully destroy America, and we will end up like Venezuela or North Korea.

        Squeeky Fromm
        Girl Reporter

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