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MSNBC Analyst: Trump Will Resign In Two Weeks

the-crystal-ball-1902I am always surprised by commentators who not only predict a historic event but put a specific date on its occurrence.  Rudy Giuliani of course predicted that the Mueller investigation would be over by September 1, 2018 (though he insists that Robert Mueller gave him that date). Now, Scott Dworkin, a Democratic strategist and MSNBC contributor, has gone one better and predicted that Trump will resign in two weeks due to the plea bargain struck by former Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort and Mueller. Most people would hedge at least to say “by the end of the year” or “before his term is up.”  A fortnight prediction now puts Dworkin on the verge of being declared a political Nostradamus or nincompoop.  

In anticipation of the cooperative deal, Dworkin went to  Twitter to announce the new:

Scott Dworkin

✔@funder

If Manafort flips, I bet @realDonaldTrump will resign within 2 weeks of a deal.

Of course, we still do not know if Manafort has anything of real value against Trump.  He was not known as a close confidant and only served as chair for a couple of months.

Moreover, if Manafort had the goods on Trump, why would he resign? Being president would likely deter Mueller from indicting Trump during his term. Resigning would allow for an immediate charge.  The only risk avoided would be impeachment, but it is incarceration that presents the greatest personal risk.  Finally, Trump could well lose an impeachment but win a Senate trial if the GOP keeps a majority or even a near majority.

In other words, Pence might want to hold back from actually packing up boxes and picking out curtain colors.

133 thoughts on “MSNBC Analyst: Trump Will Resign In Two Weeks”

  1. “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the people discover they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy–to be followed by a dictatorship.”

    ― Alexander Fraser Tytler

    The new illegitimate, imported majority votes for Obama, the cult despot bestowing the most benefits, as one man, one vote democrazy collapses into dictatorship of the proletariat.

    Ben Franklin, we gave you “…a republic, if you can keep it.”

    Franklin’s was a restricted-vote republic with a thesis of complete Freedom and Self-Reliance and a Constitution that does not allow Congress to tax for any form of “individual welfare” and preserves the full, undiluted right to private property, precluding any “regulation,” interference or intercession in any aspect of the private property of individuals by government.

    America.

    The land of Incoherence and the home of Hysteria.

    1. I’m not even sure he will voluntarily depart from the White House, whether after 1 or 2 terms.

      1. Jay S said, “I’m not even sure he will voluntarily depart from the White House, whether after 1 or 2 terms.”

        I’m not sure either, Jay. But there’s a pretty good chance that at least some of Trump’s money might be at risk for criminal or civil forfeiture–including a portion of the $26 million that went to Melania from the inaugural funds as well as the remainder of the inaugural funds that are still unaccounted for–an estimated $50 million give or take. It’s not for nothing that Mueller got Sam Patten to plead guilty to FARA violations.

        BTW, in the final analysis (whenever that becomes available to the public), there could turn out to be a relatively simple, straightforward bribery case against Trump. They say that bribery is specifically mentioned in the Constitution as an impeachable offense. If Trump had to give the money back, Trump just might cut a deal to resign The Presidency so that he can keep the money, instead.

    2. Trump will not resign. Why should he? The economy is doing better than expected even by the optimists and certainly better than those predictions on the left. He has real numbers to prove his policies to be beneficial to all Americans of all races. Maybe he won’t choose to run for another term or maybe he will but at the end of 4 years or 8 years elections will take place to determine who will run the executive branch of our government.

  3. Well it does look like ole JT just can’t wrap his mind around how bad this is turning bad for Trump. Hell, he even threw out the Hillary card the other day. But to keep his MAGA { Morons Are Governing America} crowd happy he throws out a “msnbc analyst” and by the way a Democrat Strategist views. The fact that Rudy G and the obstruction of justice republican congress has said things everyday that does not make sense in the real world, just ignored by JT. Stick your fingers in your ears and yell and just believe Trump when he says don’t believe your ears or eyes everything is just fine.

      1. Oh by. Oh boy. A guessing game. I love it. I’ll guess that ETTD stands for electronically transmitted Trump derangement disease. My wager is zero dollars and zero cents. They say that that wager is highly recommended in “The Art of the Deal” by Tony Schwartz.

    1. “Sis Boom Bah”? I thought it was that K Pop song “Boombayah” by Black Pink, in which they “culturally appropriate” everything from Native American war whoops and war dances, to Italian badaboom, and rap. When did the dispersing of ideas become a negative thing? Do we owe the wheel to some ancestors of the guy who invented the wheel?

    1. Aging has unfortunate effects on some people’s capacity to think straight. The man also shlepped through the divorce courts when he was past 60.

    2. No. That aside Pence becomes President and his term(s) are either two of four available or remainder of one and one of four depending on the time served in the first one.

      Comrade Reich continues a non broken litany of proof why his needs a ruling class. They can’t read.

  7. SLOGAN BY MANAFORT: “MAKE UKRAINE WORK AGAIN”

    MANAFORT’S WORK IN UKRAINE WAS TOTALLY DECEITFUL

    Manafort was brought to Ukraine in 2005 by wealthy businessman Rinat Akhmetov, who persuaded him to put his talents to work on behalf of the Party of Regions, a pro-Russia group in that country whose candidate, Yanukovych, had just lost a contested election and was looking for a comeback.

    He imported into Ukraine the data-driven, image-obsessed political tactics of American campaigns. Plans were drawn up for an ad riffing on the TV show “Mad Men” and another inspired by Reagan. A rally would feature confetti cannons and a balloon drop. Yanukovych, voters were told, would “Make Ukraine Work Again.”

    Under Manafort’s direction, Yanukovych’s party made advances in parliamentary elections, and in 2010, he was elected Ukraine’s president. He served until 2014, when he was ousted by public protests and fled to Moscow.

    Court documents show that Manafort devised a complex and secretive lobbying campaign to rebrand Yanukovych, who was dogged by corruption charges, as an earnest, pro-Western reformer.

    American law, seldom enforced until recently, requires that anyone lobbying government officials or working to shape public opinion in the United States on behalf of a foreign government or political party register with the Justice Department.

    Edited from: “Manafort Guilty Plea Exposes Hardball Tactics He Used To Thrive In Washington Swamp”

    THE WASHINGTON POST, 9/14/18

    1. The above article goes on to say that Manafort devised a smear campaign to brand Yanukovych’s main opponent as an anti-semite (which gained traction in western media). Manafort also used secret payments to employ former heads of state from eastern and central Europe to lobby western leaders on Yanukovych’s behalf.

    2. The last paragraph is irrelevant. Manafort was working to shape public opinion in Ukraine, not in the US. Everyone in US Govt. was enthusiastic about Russia and Ukraine holding true democratic elections in this timeframe. The last paragraph is a WaPo propagandist’s ploy to conflate the Ukraine-Yanukovych campaign work to the fake narrative about Russian “collusion” in 2016.

      1. pbinca, Manafort was highly concerned with opinion in Washington. He worked hard to present Yanukovych as pro-western and committed to democracy. When in reality Yanukovych was a loyal ally of Putin.

    3. I don’t think many find Manafort an appealing guy. I wonder if when Manafort was dealing with the Ukranians if he ever bumped into the Clinton team that has been accused of colluding with the Ukranians.

      1. Allan – Dick Morris, former Clinton ally, was in the Ukraine working on the other side.

      2. Ukraine’s best wineries were in The Crimea, which was seized by Russia. Ukraine has gotten screwed since the Holodomor.

  8. “Of course, we still do not know if Manafort has anything of real value against Trump.”

    Torture isn’t reliable due to the fact that people will say anything to stop the torture
    Plea Bargains aren’t reliable due to the fact that people will say anything to avoid the jail time/penalties

    1. No one thing is reliable. That is why those involved in the prosecution of others need to be independent of politics and able to strictly follow the intent of the law. The Mueller gang is not independent of politics and that fact has been demonstrated over and over again.

      1. allan

        “Facts are stubborn things” — but take it your way if it helps to ease that #9 migraine

        1. BilI, I don’t have a problem with facts and certainly none with migraines. Perhaps you do and that leads to your obsession with migraines to such an extent that you number your imaginary friends.

    2. As a practitioner in federal court, I can tell you that the federal gulag is full of individuals convicted by the words of former co-conspirators turned government witnesses. Your more salient question at this point would be: “what is that ticking sound?”

      this is to “I heard this on reddit today” bernie

  9. Trump can be arrested for war crimes;

    “John Bolton Escalates Blackmail to Shield US War Criminals”

    by Marjorie Cohn
    Marjorie Cohn is professor emerita at Thomas Jefferson School of Law, former president of the National Lawyers Guild, deputy secretary general of the International Association of Democratic Lawyers and an advisory board member of Veterans for Peace. The editor and contributor to The United States and Torture: Legal, Moral, and Geopolitical Issues, Cohn testified before Congress about the Bush interrogation policy.

    https://truthout.org/articles/john-bolton-escalates-blackmail-to-shield-us-war-criminals/

      1. A front organization like the National Student League or the U.S. Peace Council, not a formal subsidiary.

        I don’t think there’s anything left of the CPUSA. (It had 100,000 members in 1947).

        1. Didn’t supporters of the communist party move much of their support to the Democratic Party? e.g. John Brennen who voted for CPUSA though to my knowledge was not a member. I think the CPUSA stopped nominating candidates in 1988 and in succession supported Dukakis, Clinton, Gore, Kerry and Obama.

          1. Allan – you are correct. The support of the Lawyers Guild went to the Democratic Party.

      2. pcs,

        Do you agree that orange muffin will resign in two weeks or will he overcome his well known cowardice and start a war, or go to Nixxon Egypt to distract from what’s coming here in the home of the brave?

        1. bill mcwilliams – fact (or not fact) that Trump had (or did not have) unprotected sex with Stormy Daniels shows me just how brave he is. He has the heart of a lion.

  10. Turley wrote, “Resigning would allow for an immediate charge. The only risk avoided would be impeachment, but it is incarceration that presents the greatest personal risk.”

    If the immediate charge were Conspiracy to Defraud the United States, and if Mueller offers Trump a deal that foregoes both civil and criminal forfeiture attached to that federal crime in exchange for Trump’s resignation, then refusing to resign could put a fair bit of the Trump family fortune at risk alongside the risk of incarceration.

    Does anybody know who the real author of “The Art of the Deal” was?

        1. Trump, in his own ghost-written words, excerpted from the article linked above:

          “I don’t do it for the money,” Trump declares. “I’ve got enough, much more than I’ll ever need. I do it to do it. Deals are my art form. Other people paint beautifully on canvas or write wonderful poetry. I like making deals, preferably big deals. That’s how I get my kicks.”

        2. Also excerpted from the article linked above:

          Schwartz now laughs at this depiction of Trump as a devoted artisan. “Of course he’s in it for the money,” he said. “One of the most deep and basic needs he has is to prove that ‘I’m richer than you.’ ” As for the idea that making deals is a form of poetry, Schwartz says, “He was incapable of saying something like that—it wouldn’t even be in his vocabulary.”

  11. Turley wrote, “Of course, we still do not know if Manafort has anything of real value against Trump.”

    Certain straws are hollow such that you can breathe through them under water while you grasp at them. [What’s it mean?]

    A) Trump and Manafort had a private meeting (just the two of them) on June 7th, 2016, (just two days before the Trump Tower meeting on June 9th, 2016).

    B) Manafort attended the Trump Tower meeting on June 9th, 2016, along with Trump Jr. and Jared Kushner.

    C) Rick Gates almost certainly knows what George Papadopoulos claims that he can’t remember. If Gates knows, then so does Manafort.

    D) Roger Stone, Roger Stone, Roger Stone.

    E) Money, money, money, money . . . .[ungh] . . . Money!

    1. Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS met with the Russian lawyer Veselnitskaya right before the Trump Tower meeting, and again right after that meeting.
      They had worked together in a case involving the Russian company Prevezon.
      By L4B’s “logic”, if Veselnitskaya “knows”, then so does Glenn Simpson.
      And if Glenn Simpson “knows”, so does Christopher Steele and Perkins Coie and the DNC and the Hillary campaign, etc., etc.
      When L4B rubs two straws together and lights a match to them, she gets fire.

      1. The limited cameo role for me that L4B referred to on another thread is OK.
        I wouldn’t want to steal her thunder in her starring role as Inspector Clousseau.

  12. Physicist Stephen Hawking was a Doomsday Prophet

    NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY
    In 2007, Prof Hawking fronted a campaign to cancel Trident, Britain’s nuclear weapons deterrent.

    DONALD TRUMP
    Prof Hawking made it clear he was not a fan of Donald Trump.
    He was particularly critical of the US President after he vowed not to sign the Paris Agreement on climate change.

    ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE
    In recent years, Prof Hawking had raised the alarm about the potential threat of artificial intelligence.

    DEATH BY FIREBALL
    Overpopulation is going to turn our planet into a red-hot fireball.

    ASTEROID STRIKES
    Prof Hawking has warned that if global warming doesn’t wipe us out, an asteroid strike will.

    1. I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure than even Trump, himself, would concede that the extinction of humankind would be far worse than the resignation of The POTUS, Trump.

      P. S. I’m not yet certain that Putin would concede that point.

    2. In this case, British journalism supplied the hype in most of the stories about what Stephen Hawking said. But the asteroid strike’s a real “thing” – if the bolide that detonated (with several hundred kilotons of explosive force) over Chelyabinsk (which happens to be one of Russia’s “nuclear cities”) had detonated a little lower, with, say, a megaton of force, over Moscow instead, a nuclear exchange might have resulted between Russia and the US in the confusion.

      Hawking was right to use his position to argue for more vigilance and even a way to divert or destroy large asteroids before they do more damage than they’ve done so far.

    1. Hope Springs is a hot water spring above the Coachella Valley in southern California. We suspect that it is long lasting but not, alas, eternal. 🙂

  14. To the tune of “Tradition!” from Fiddler on the Roof: “Prediction, …”

    You fill in the rest.

    1. “Prediction. Without our predictions, family fortunes would be as shaky as… as a fiddler on the roof!”

  15. The unemployment situation must be so low that a man with the common sense level of Mr. Dworkin can somehow manage to be a paid analyst with a major entertainment organization such as MSNBC.

    Looking at his twitter account website, this man needs to get outside more often.

  16. MS stands for More….S*it ‘n’Barking Canines. It is the programming branch for the exceptionally stupid. Now on to serious business and discussions.

  17. I find the Mueller investigation disturbing. He was tasked with investigating Russian involvement in our election. However, he completely ignored the only person who actually did hire a British spy to pay Russian spies for false information, in an attempt to steal the election at the 11th hour through slander. Hillary Clinton also brokered the sale of 1/5 of all US uranium to Russia, who made a hefty donation to her Foundation. That seems like a pretty obvious direction for an investigation into Russian activity in our election.

    Instead, Mueller is investigating her victim. Regardless of how many meetings Hillary Clinton’s go betweens had with Russians, merely accepting a meeting is being treated as high treason. It is my understanding that Mueller has investigated anyone even obliquely connected to the Administration for anything, over any amount of time. Then he piles on concurrent charges, threatening multiple lifetimes in prison unless they hand over any dirt, on any topic, on Trump.

    That is how Third World dictatorships operate. It’s not how I envisioned the US justice system to operate. The weaponization of government agencies against conservatives is a real and present danger to our liberty.

    This may have a cooling effect on conservatives in general. How willing would anyone be to work for the Trump, or indeed any future Republican Administration, knowing the FBI will abuse its power, spy on you, and investigate you back towards infancy, while Democrats openly fought laws with impunity?

    People don’t serve hundreds of years in prison, in solitary confinement, for tax evasion. That’s worse than rapists and pedophiles get. Even Charles Manson got sentenced to life with the possibility of parole.

    It is frightening to see the vast power of the United States turned against citizens, in the apparent pursuit of a Single Party State.

    1. This is so precious. You have no personal knowledge whatsoever of Muller’s strategy and have no idea what evidence he has or what he knows. Why don’t you wait for the evidence to come out before whining.

      Since Mueller is a Republican, what kind “single party” state are you referring to? You sound like the doofi (plural of doofus) in Florida who are criticizing Gov. Rick Scott as being a “liberal” for disagreeing with Trump about the death toll in Puerto Rico. If Rick Scott is a “liberal” then Turley must be getting ready to annoint Hillary Clinton’s feet.

      And there you go again, being soft on crime because you don’t think tax cheats deserve hundreds of years in solitary confinement. Not only should they all get solitary confinement for hundreds of years, they should also have to eat food from the McDonalds’ menu every meal while in prison and should have to alternate between listening to Tucker Carlson and Michael Avenatti bicker with each other and listening to the Brett Kavanaugh confirmation hearings whenever they watch TV.

      1. and have no idea what evidence he has or what he knows.

        The investigation has been ongoing for 25 months, not counting the time the FBI was running informants before they formally opened the investigation. So far, the indictments issued have concerned (1) Paul Manafort’s tax returns and business interests, about which Trump knew nothing; (2) Michael Cohen’s extraneous business interests and tax returns, to which Trump wasn’t a party, either; (3) Russian internet trolls he never thought he’d have to try; (4) Russian security officials he’d never thought he’d have to try. Terminally dense partisan Democrats are persistent in their refusal to understand what that means (or to compare the output of this investigation with previous special prosecutor investigations). The rest of us understand that there is no there there and that the investigation was foundationally corrupt (see Sztrok-Page).

        2. Teaching — You may wish to check Manafort’s recent guilty pleading and update your list of what Manafort is guilty of. Keep telling yourself he knows nothing about Trump. It will still hurt when his testimony eventually comes out but you can avoid the stress between then and now.

          1. Manafort was charged in DC with failing to register as a foreign agent and with money laundering to conceal that he was a foreign agent. He worked for a Ukrainian political party prior to 2016. No clue what you fancy this has to do with anyone but Paul Manafort and his business partner.

            1. When the prosecutor had to state to the court what they would have proved in court (which Manafort acknowledged), it took 40 minutes to read the offenses. Your paragraph doesn’t even begin to reflect what he pleaded guilty to.
              I suggest you get other sources of information which is readily available. I find if I provide it, people tend to just reject the source no matter how credible. Google is a wonderful thing which can expand your horizons.

              2. Sorry, but I can’t figure out how to copy and paste the confounded thing. Check on Page 17, Paragraph 23. Manafort accused Tymoshenko of contracting a hit man to murder somebody. Manafort knew that accusation was false. He paid people to push the story without leaving any fingerprints on it. The story ended up on Breitbart news. So one now has to wonder how many negative stories about Hillary Clinton published on Breitbart were paid for by Yanukovich, Deripaska or some other Russian oligarch. And Turley still doubts that Manafort has anything of real value to offer Mueller. Pshaw!

              3. FTR, there’s nothing wrong with pushing fake news in a federal election if you pay for it with your own legally acquired campaign funds. It’s only wrong if you get a foreign national to pay for the fake news that your pushing in a federal election. Did you know that Roger Stone once told Henry Greenberg that, “You don’t understand Trump. He doesn’t pay for anything”? If so, then Trump could be undone by his own “cheapness.”

              4. Seriously though. We could need a new theory of the crime by way of idle speculation and rank conjecture. Here it comes:

                Unknown US persons legally pay for the fake news that the Trump campaign was pushing in the 2016 election. The missing $50 million or so of inaugural funds come from Russian oligarchs and Tom Barrack distributes those missing funds to reimburse the US persons who had legally paid up front for the fake news that the Trump campaign had pushed in the 2016 elections. Or not. If so, however, then Gates and Patten would know about it. And, if Gates and Patten know about it, then Manafort knows about it, too. Now here’s the best part: If Gates, Patten and Manafort know about it, then he who will not be deterred, Robert Swan Mueller The Third, also knows about it.

                1. Repeated for emphasis from the article linked upstream:

                  “I don’t do it for the money,” Trump declares. “I’ve got enough, much more than I’ll ever need. I do it to do it. Deals are my art form. Other people paint beautifully on canvas or write wonderful poetry. I like making deals, preferably big deals. That’s how I get my kicks.”

                  1. Yep. I’ve been hoping that Mueller will tie it all up in one big package with a ribbon and a bow and present it to Congress as a final report. However, there’s some evidence that Mueller and Rosenstein intend to do all of their talking through indictments, only–no final report. Meanwhile, Giuliani keeps touting his own counter-report while complaining that he can’t finalize it until Mueller presents the OSC’s final report. And that, more than anything else, makes me think that there won’t be a final report from Mueller–just indictments.

                    BTW, all the stuff in Manafort’s criminal information about Skadden Arp’s lawfare against Yulia Tymoshenko is particularly fascinating. Especially Paragraph 33 (I forgot the page number) that says that Skadden Arp informed Manafort that the evidence against Tymoshenko was practically non-existent and Manafort kept pushing it anyway. How much fake news from the 2016 election has Manafort’s fingerprints on it? And how many foreign nationals paid how much money to the alt.-right media to push that fake news? If Manafort knows, then Mueller knows.

                    1. I feel certain that Mueller (assuming he doesn’t get fired) will write an extensive report. The only issue is if whoever is in the job currently held by Rosenstein, will allow its release? The pressure to have it released will be quite intense.

                    2. If Mueller is going to allege an impeachable offense or offenses against Trump, then the final report would be preferred over the indictment of a sitting president. The fate of Rosenstein seems to hinge on the outcome of the midterm elections. Of course, such is also sometimes said to hold for the fate of Sessions. If Republicans lose control of The House, then Rosenstein might be left in place. Trump risks losing support from Republican Senators if he fires Sessions. If Trump gets impeached, then he’s going to need 34 Republican Senators, many of whom will be old friends and colleagues of Sessions. I know, I know, I know . . . Desperate times for Trump call for desperate measures from Trump. Well . . . whose fault is that? The guy pointing his finger at Mueller. That’s whose fault it is.

                    3. L4Yoga enables David Benson, R. Lien and Marky Mark Mark – after the FISA warrant applications are released unredacted, Rosenstein may have no choice but to recuse himself.

                    4. The first FISA warrant application on Carter Page was signed by Comey several months before Rosenstein replaced Yates. Trump’s order to declassify the FISA applications on Carter Page (with WH redactions) will only show what the FBI investigation looked like in the months of August, September and October of 2016. It will not reveal any developments that have been discovered since October of 2016. For instance, the FISA warrant applications on Carter Page will reveal nothing whatsoever about Rosenstein’s supposed conflict of interest that supposedly requires Rosenstein to recuse himself. Rosenstein’s signature on the three renewals of Carter Page’s FISA warrant does not constitute a conflict of interest requiring Rosenstein’s recusal. It was his job to do that. He did his job. No conflict. No recusal.

                    5. L4Yoga enables David Benson, R. Lien and Marky Mark Mark – his testimony to the committee says he did not do his job. When he signed it, he is telling the court, under oath, that he has read it (which he told the committee he had not) and that it is true and complete (which it is not).

                    6. Here’s what Trump’s declassification order says you’ll get:

                      At the request of a number of committees of Congress, and for reasons of transparency, the President has directed the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the Department of Justice (including the FBI) to provide for the immediate declassification of the following materials: (1) pages 10-12 and 17-34 of the June 2017 application to the FISA court in the matter of Carter W. Page; (2) all FBI reports of interviews with Bruce G. Ohr prepared in connection with the Russia investigation; and (3) all FBI reports of interviews prepared in connection with all Carter Page FISA applications.

                      In addition, President Donald J. Trump has directed the Department of Justice (including the FBI) to publicly release all text messages relating to the Russia investigation, without redaction, of James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, and Bruce Ohr.

                      So you’ll only get the FISA application on Carter Page in June of 2017. And only pages 10-12 and 17-34. I think the June, 2017, FISA application on Carter Page was the last one. None of the previous FISA applications on Carter Page are declassified under Trump’s order.

        3. Sorry “counselor.” The feds move at their own pace. I have client’s facing trial now whose relevant conduct occurred in 2015. Pro tip: hannity doesn’t have a bar card. So sorry for your loss. What is that ticking sound?

          this is to “but I have a lawyer suit in the closet” spaz

          1. stop fabricating quotes Mark M and do you withdraw your false and malicious statement that “I watch Hannity and bag his balls”?

      2. Since Mueller is a Republican,

        Really? Where is he registered to vote?

      3. Oliver Clozoff – you can put a handle on a printing press, but that does not make it portable. Joseph Stalin could register as a Republican, that does not mean he is one. Same for Mueller.

      4. Oliver:

        “This is so precious.” Did Mueller, or did he not, interview the only person, Hillary Clinton, already proven to have obtained false information from Russian spies, in order to defame her opponent at the 11th hour before the election? Hillary was also involved with the Uranium One deal with the Russians, and her foundation received a multimillion dollar donation.

        You can make cutesy comments all you like, but can you discuss facts? That would add actual substance to the conversation.

        I find it highly disturbing that Hillary Clinton actually did what Trump was accused of, and yet she has not been named a person of interest in this investigation.

        “Soft on crime”? Justice is supposed to be blind to political affiliation. People don’t get consecutive life sentences for failing to declare an offshore bank account.

        Rapists, murderers, and pedophiles get far less than a 300 year sentence. Bernie Madoff undermined financial institutions and wrecked the finances of a great many American citizens, and he only got 150 years. If you have read any of my posts on the topic, I’m not soft on crime. Quite the opposite. I believe that prison needs to be a serious deterrent. I believe in equal and fair justice.

        As far as the death toll in Puerto Rico, which is wildly off from my point, there needs to be a serious investigation into the rampant corruption, mismanagement, and incompetence on the island. FEMA does not take control of entire states or an island. They coordinate with local governments. They are restricted by the infrastructure on hand. FEMA delivered billions of dollars in supplies, much of which was left to rot by the Puerto Rican government. There are shipping containers, faithfully delivered, filled with rats because the food was never handed out. Puerto Rico has one of the most aged electrical systems on Earth. FEMA does not rewire an entire island nation after a disaster. After the hurricane, there was a scandal in which the electric company charged residents thousands of dollars to turn on their electricity. The US paid $300 million to Whitefish, and got nothing out of it. We have faithfully shoveled billions of dollars, that honestly we don’t have to spend, on Puerto Rico, only to have it accomplish almost nothing. You can throw all the money at a problem that you want, but unless it is managed properly, efficiently, and honestly, it will come to nothing.

        Takeaways from PR:
        1. The Spanish American War was a long time ago. Puerto Rico should either become an independent country, or a state. No more shadow in between. As for arguments against statehood because of the cost, we aren’t exactly saving money now.
        2. Our contract procurement system needs to be overhauled. There needs to be a meritocracy; contracts should be judged according to output and cost. As it stands, contracts are given out as plums by both sides (See Haiti and the Clinton donor’s “Hurricane Proof” moldy trailers). There is not the same competitive bidding that occurs in the private sector.
        3. Puerto Rico’s infrastructure needs to be overhauled. We need to figure out if they are going to be an indecent country, or not, to see who should pay for it.
        4. Any and all corruption in Puerto Rico must be investigated and rectified, as well as incompetence and inefficiency. This includes allegations that Whitefish was a plum awarded by the Interior Secretary. That island is a complete mess. What’s been holding it afloat are the pharmaceutical drug companies’ manufacturing centers, which take advantage of the tax rate. Those companies will exit, soon, if Puerto Rico cannot get its act together. The complete inability of the island to respond to a natural disaster, years later, has impacted the production of prescription drugs.

        1. You left out (but hinted at) that most of the residents–who are as American as you–don’t look like you. Pro tip: using the code word you learned from watching Pravda Faux News doesn’t shield you from being considered a racist.

          this is to “why can’t ‘those people’ just pull themselves up by their bootstraps” karen

          1. you’re not funny you’re just a malicious defamer, stop making up quotes.
            do you withdraw your false and malicious statement that I ‘watch hannity and bag his balls”?
            Please state your meaning about what is “bagging his balls.” I do not golf with him and we have never met. Explain your remark slanderer.

            1. Mr Kurtz – I think it is libel (which is written) as opposed to slander (which is oral). 😉

              1. Paul don’t you think it unimportant whether it oral or written? Mark M. needs oral satisfaction and keeps his mouth open on this blog waiting for someone to fill it. Bananas, that is what Mark needs. Rich in potassium as well.

    2. “The weaponization of government agencies against conservatives is a real and present danger to our liberty”

      It is very clear when you remove the word conservative which is leftist speak for anyone who doesn’t agree with us and replace with Constitutional Centrists, or Constitutionalist of any kind. They also replace ‘citizen’ with ‘people.’ Thus marginalizing and devalue-ing the importance of the individual self governing citizens to fit their version of the ‘ruled’ class by the ‘ruling class’ in their ‘classless society.”

      Their new campaign slogan of “For The People” spells this very un-American attitude out in three words. ‘For’ meaning the people need their guidance and are incapable of anything without them in charge. People meaning what to them is a blob, a mass, an object to be viewed as a singular stupidity or just ignored.

      In 2016 they recognized only 60% of the voters claiming the majority of those and completely ignored 40% who voted against them. They failed to obtained enough votes. It is all ‘for the people’ and there is nothing in their plans that means ‘of’ the people or ‘by’ the people Much less by, of and for the citizens

      You might think about those who now openly run for office under their label of Socialist, what that really means and then ask…. how do you intend to take the oath of office required?

      Why should you not be denied a seat in our government in light of your openly anti Representative Constitutional Republic which is Our System?

      How does ‘for’ the people stack up against ‘of, by and for the citizens or rep-resenting the public?

      Representative both includes all citizens and the underlying democratic principles while rejecting the danger of ‘mobocracy.’ Constitutional means the Contract is written and Republic means it was accepted by 100% of the founding city states. as the Social Compact of the USA. It’s accepted every day someone turns 18 and registers to to vote, signs up for jury duty or acquires any other tangible form of acceptance such as a drivers license.

      Disregarding the dog whistles of the left I put those ideas out to the rest of the participants that we should not follow false words like bi- and cross-partisanship which mean give in to the leftist foreign ideology and replace any form of leftists such as secular progressive liberal socialists with the following.

      “Targets of Opportunity” .

    3. Haha. More fantasy and hokum. You out to get out more, or at least change the channel. Pro tip: hannity doesn’t really care about you.

      this is to “but all those people on Pravda Faux News are so pretty and white” karen

      1. Commentators on Trump wish too hard for bad things to happen to him. One after another their predictions fall by the wayside. The incredible thing is that some people don’t seem to learn. They continue tol listen to these predictions and run with them.

        1. Allan, correct you are. I’d add it’s all one big case of denial of having to look at who they supported and emotional voting has its consequences as well.

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