Turley Speaks Today At The National Constitution Center

Today, I am in Philadelphia to debate National Review editor Rich Lowry on President Donald Trump’s emergency declaration to build the wall on the Southern border. I have previously testified and written on the subject. Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center, will moderate the debate to be held 6:30 – 7:30 p.m at the National Constitution Center.

You can watch this America’s Town Hall program live at constitutioncenter.org/live.

30 thoughts on “Turley Speaks Today At The National Constitution Center”

  1. Some of the newest numbers from DHS/Customs/Border Patrol.

    So far mid April 2019 they’ve caught around 416,000 illegal Invaders on our southern border.

    In 2018 for the whole year it was like 360000.

    Further the DHS/BP will tell you for every Invader they catch 3 or 4 more are not caught.

    Using DHS/BP math that would mean so far this year it’s very likely 6.6 MILLION illegal Invaders will cross into the USA this & a large part of them are already here.

    (I’m now skipping the curse words for the fools here….)

    Ask yourself how many illegal Invaders are already from the past 40 PH…, Years?

    The Invasion Force at Normandy was only around 72,000!

    I’m currently hearing from insiders even Tulsa, the city, is starting to see the outbreaks of the invaders crime growing. I’ll be ck’in on that crap.

    Oklahoma has about 4 million people. 2 million are voters. Small like many other states.

    Just last year Texas found over 100,000 voters did so illegal.

    It was either Harvard or Yale study that found there were over 6.5 million illegal votes in the 2016 election. ( So much for the Hillary beat Trump in election’s popular vote Myth.)

    So in other words it is foolish for anyone to suggest that there isn’t a National Emergency in the USA as state after state is having their voters Disenfranchised by Illegal Invaders, no matter where they illegally vote.

    Some of the new numbers I used here are from around the 25:51 mark.

    1. I meant to add onto the piece above that this invasion of illegals is also a key part of they ongoing Coup attempt in DC against the people’s govt/leader Trump!

  2. https://youtu.be/cdrFBwwWJ44
    Fed. papers,
    I think you should have an idea of who YOU’RE talking to. Hope the link helps.
    YNOT is one of a few trolls here whose exclusive gig is slithering out from under a rock and making brief, snotty remarks.
    That is her stock on trade; today seems to be “Troll Monday” from the looks of the activity of a few of the slimier contributors here.

      1. Just keep these brilliant, “substantive”, bitchy little comments coming.
        One of today’s feature on these JT threads is the heightened activity of anonymous troll-trash like you, SNOT.
        Enriches this site beyond all measure. And to think scum like SNOT were limited to writing on bathroom walls and making anonymous calls before the internet opened up a whole new world for scum like that.

  3. Folks. Pay attention to the Constitutional Law Center and it’s blog. They have great topics and a good group of people running the show and a good group invited on.

  4. I’ll debate you both, and you both will lose! Because the Constitution is clear, the President has no Emergency Powers, and Congress cannot empower the President with any powers without violating Articles 1 and 2 of the Constitution. We have a weak Executive, in a Confederated Republic congress necessarily predominates! The coequal branches of government refer to the House and the Senate, Not The Executive, Legislative, and Judicial!

    I think you all have been sitting around too long contemplating the meaning of life and have forgotten to refer to the Constitution, which is written on a 6th grade level, which is why you all don’t understand it, you think too much!

      1. You want to get in on it too, I’ll take you all on simultaneously, and you can confer and try to come up with the best rebuttal, and you will still lose because I have the Constitution on my side! What are you going to bring, 20th century statutes which aren’t worth the ink they were printed with?

          1. All religion is carrot and stick to gain your compliance and get you to conform to their view of morality, meaning it is a control system. Faith comes without a spoon full of sugar! If you need a spoon full of sugar then you don’t have faith, you are trying to buy salvation! It’s not an if then statement, if you believe this, then you will be saved. Faith is you believe regardless of if you will be saved or participate in your utopian afterlife.

            I don’t need someone to formulate a belief system for me to buy off the shelf, I’m satisfied with my own custom made belief and morality system.

            This is how politics and religion are similar, I don’t need a party to represent me through a canned set of platform issues that I can. Shop and buy off the shelf Political at the Political Walmart.

            Parties don’t promote participation, parties prevent, and obstruct, participation forcing the People to conform to their Political ideology.

            Politics is not Governing! Governing comes through Nonpartisan Assembly of all participants according to their Proportion in society! Politics only sets the stage for the debate in the assembly that leads to a Majority Consensus Vote Based Upon the mode of assembly!

            I know this isn’t what you expected as a reply, but even sarcasm should be clarified with a dose of reality!

              1. Absolutely not, the Constitution is mane made like Algebra is man made, white just about as many people who understand it.

                Why?

                Because the Constitution defines a system of indirect democracy that is based upon the mathematical principles of ratios, proportions, and percents of assemble the Government and reach Majority Consensus Based Upon the mode of Assembly, Proportional in the House and Equal in the Senate!

                And like mathematical principles they cannot be interpreted they are applied as defined!

                  1. Ok, you say I’m wrong, then you are willing to use a scientific method to support your conclusions, because I am to support mine.

                    Here is a good description of the stages of scientific method:

                    The eight steps of the scientific method are: identify the problem, ask questions, research the questions, create a hypothesis, conduct experiments, collect and analyze data, draw conclusions and share the results. The eight steps of the scientific method can be grouped into three stages: observation, experiment and confirmation.

                    I can form a Government, which assembles the government including the roles and responsibilities of of all Principle officers, gives a description of the Legislative process, and shows how it’s a form of republican Government, an Indirect Democracy, which complies with the basic principles of the equality of every person, and the equality of the States through Representation and modes of Suffrage to reach Majority Consensus using only the Current Census and the Constitution!

                    I then can test my Government using the Journal of the Senate, the first 100 Years, which detailed the assembly of the first government established by the Constitution after ratification by the required 9 States!

                    Give it a try, if you can’t you must be able to explain why! And like I said, using only the Constitution and the current census, no congressional statutes or Supreme Court rulings!

                    Then you can say I’m wrong!

                    1. Algebra, mathematics in general, is the law of the universe whereas the Constitution is a law of man. Nothing you say proves your point but I am sure you will keep babbling.

                    2. Let me give you an idea of who you are talking to! I’m a Senior Electrochemical Engineering Manager With over 30 years experience in process development, troubleshooting, and Optimization of Equilibrium systems and processes, which republican Government just so happens to be.

                      I also have been Studying the Constitution and the Fundamental Principles of republican Government for over 40 years.

                      So when it comes to your idea of what algebra is, let me let you know, I know how algebra was developed from the principles of adding zero and multiplying by 1, so if you feel qualified to tell me what you believe it is, knock yourself out!

                      Furthermore if you don’t understand the per capita equality inherent in all indirect Democracy systems, then I won’t be able to convince you of anything.

                      If you want to remain ignorant, then keep on doing what you are doing, I’m not going to try to disabuse you of your belief system based upon faulty inputs!

                    3. federalistpapersrevisited:

                      A critique:

                      1. “I’m a Senior Electrochemical Engineering Manager With over 30 years experience in process development, troubleshooting, and Optimization of Equilibrium systems and processes, which republican Government just so happens to be.”

                      Logical analysis: Appeal to false authority (being a electrochemical engineer with 100 years of experience doesn’t make one a political scientist) and false definition of “Republican Government.” No recognized etymological authority defines “Republican Government” this way. You can check. I like the Encyclopedia Britannica’s definition.

                      2. “I can form a Government, which assembles the government including the roles and responsibilities of of all Principle officers, gives a description of the Legislative process, and shows how it’s a form of republican Government, an Indirect Democracy, which complies with the basic principles of the equality of every person, and the equality of the States through Representation and modes of Suffrage to reach Majority Consensus using only the Current Census and the Constitution!”

                      Logical Analysis: False on its face. The speaker can no more form a national government than any other individual. Possible cause: Delusions of grandeur which can be a symptom of various disorders. Maybe he means form a model of government. If so, his assertion proves nothing without the actual model to examine and critique.

                      3. “I then can test my Government using the Journal of the Senate, the first 100 Years, which detailed the assembly of the first government established by the Constitution after ratification by the required 9 States!”

                      Logical analysis: Nonsequitur. Mandated by the Constitution, The Journal of the Senate is not a comprehensive record of Senate proceedings, does not include actual debates, omits proceedings by the House, and was never designed to test anyone’s idea of government. Article I, Section 5 of the Constitution, provides that:

                      “Each House shall keep a journal of its proceedings, and from time to time publish the same, excepting such parts as may in their judgment require secrecy; and the yeas and nays of the members of either House, on any question, shall, at the desire of one-fifth of those present, be entered on the journal.”

                      On the positive side, you’re making me appreciate the ramblings of YNOT as near sensical.

                    4. Sorry your criticism of my comments lacks the level of support of Constitutional references that is necessary to qualify as a valid rebuttal! It also shows you have no idea what the Constitution is, what republican Government is, or what the Union is, when you figure those three things out, maybe we can have a substantive discussion!

                    5. fpr:

                      “Sorry your criticism of my comments lacks the level of support of Constitutional references that is necessary to qualify as a valid rebuttal! ”
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                      Of course, what my comment doesn’t lack is a logical critique of your unlettered comments. You have no proffered experience and hence no credentials in government administration, law or constitutional theory. You do have the arrogance of the Dunning–Kruger effect and feel that your wild claims “constitutional research” is somehow persuasive rather than an obvious self-guided folly. You’re a blowhard providing a range of entertainment from mild amusement to outright astonishment on a blawg where many readers have experience in all three. You managed to unite both sides of the philosophical debate with the consensus opinion you have absolutely no idea what you’re preaching about. Bravo.

                    6. I can’t think of the right word to characterize your approach to discussion and debate, and for some reason you want me to get into a pissing match with you, which I refuse to do.

                      I know nothing about you, as you know nothing about me, and for some reason you don’t want to deal with a debate of assembly, and function of governing systems, which you are ill prepared for, but you would rather trip about my letters in political Science, like that diminishes the value of my arguments, which I haven’t displayed.

                      My mother taught me that if I didn’t have anything good to say, then say nothing at all. So I will leave you with, “Get a Life”!

                    7. federalistpapersrevisited

                      Do you understand that once the government is established through the methodology you reference, the government is limited and severely restricted and exists merely to facilitate the freedom and free enterprise of individuals?

                      Congress has the power to tax but it cannot tax for the purposes of redistribution of wealth, only “…general Welfare…” Do you understand “general?” Clue: It isn’t individual – all people utilize it in similar amounts and frequency – roads, water, electricity, sewer, trash pick-up, post office, etc.

                      Congress cannot regulate anything except exchange, trade or “…Commerce among the several states…” to preclude bias or favor by one state over another.

                      Please refer to Article 1, Section 8.

                      Private property means that Congress cannot possess or dispose of any private property with the sole exception of Eminent Domain. James Madison defined private property as “that dominion which one man claims and exercises over the external things of the world, in exclusion of every other individual.”

                      Affirmative action, quotas, welfare, food stamps, rent control, social services, forced busing, minimum wage, utility subsidies, WIC, TANF, HAMP, HARP, Education, Labor, Obamacare, Obamaphones, Social Security, Social Security Disability, Medicare, Medicaid, “Fair Housing,” laws, “Non-Discrimination” laws, etc., the entire communistic American welfare state is unconstitutional.

                      Karl Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto 59 years after the adoption of the Constitution because none of the principles of the Communist Manifesto were in the Constitution. Had the principles of the Communist Manifesto been in the Constitution, Karl Marx would have had no reason to write the Communist Manifesto. The principles of the Communist Manifesto were not in the Constitution then and the principles of the Communist Manifesto are not in the Constitution now.

                      Unconstitutional principles of communism are:

                      Central Planning
                      Control of the Means of Production (i.e. regulation)
                      Redistribution of Wealth
                      Social Engineering

                    8. Actually Congress doesn’t have the power to tax within a State within the United States! The Federal Government only has the power to assess indirect taxes, import and excise taxes, and tariffs, and there is nothing in the 16th Amendment which changes this, because it is defined, unalterably, by The rule of Apportionment of Representation and Direct taxes of Article 1 Section 2 of the Constitution.

                      The States are responsible for assessing and collecting all taxes within their States, and all those Federal programs you mentioned, would only exist if a Majority of the States agreed to pay their Proportional share of those expenditures.

                      Approval for all expenditures must come before the Collection of revenue, which is through Proportional direct taxes paid by each State. The federal Government has no revenue! The Federal Government is as a child that has to ask its parents, the States, for everything it wants to buy, or for an allowance to pay for recurring expenses, by capitation, like the overhead to run the Federal Government.

                      This is the control that is missing today that allows the Federal Government to collect $3 Trillion in direct taxes on the people , barrow another $2 Trillion, and spend it all on expenditures which never get the authorization, or Majority Consensus, of the States, or the people in their collective capacity. The control, the power of the Purse, which is held by the States, not Congress, Controls the size and scope of the Federal Government!

                    9. Do you understand that Congress cannot tax for “…individual Welfare…’ or any form of redistribution such as are the cases of Social Security, Medicare, etc.

                      And that inferior levels of government cannot circumvent the restrictions, rights and freedoms on the federal level. No state or local government may deny freedom of speech, press, religion, etc., and, by the same principle, no inferior level of government may execute the power to tax for individual welfare and, like Congress, may tax merely for “…general Welfare…”

                      Inferior government may not “regulate” anything that the federal government is prohibited from regulating.

                    10. Congress cannot tax for anything, except indirect taxes which include import and excise taxes and tariffs.

                      All other capitation, and Direct, taxes must be assessed upon each State according to the rule of Apportionment for Representation and direct taxes contained in Article 1 Section 2 Clause 3 of the Constitution.

                      The States must approve every expenditure before the revenue is collected from the States Themselves for expenditures they themselves legislated!

                      That makes the States the independent Governments, and the Federal Government they form by their Union, the dependent government, where their participation and compliance is the trade off of sovereignty which is the glue which joins the States Together as Equals.

                      None of what you said is consistent with the principles of republican Government, which Requires the Equal participation of the States through Representation and Rights of Suffrage Based Upon the modes of Assembly of the States into Congress.

                      Face it, the States are Congress, the States are the Union, and the States are the Federal Government, the States are in no way inferior to, or subservient to, the Federal
                      Government which they are a constituent part.

                      I would reiterate, but I have a feeling you would not appreciate the sprit in which it was made!

                      No taxes can be assessed by the federal government within a State in the United States, none what so ever, Not on income, not for social security, not for Medicare, Medicaid, or any other capitation on the people, or corporations, within any State.

                      Furthermore income and payroll taxes are extortion, a hold over from slavery, where the slave master would collect a large percentage of their Slaves income that was earned from working in the community, and they had just as much right to those slaves earnings as the Federal Government has of the income earned by Americans today, none whatsoever!

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