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Trump: “I Had Nothing To Do With Russia Helping Me To Get Elected”

Misfires on Twitter for President Donald Trump are legendary. However, today’s now deleted tweet is likely to be repeated endlessly for the next two years. Trump actually tweeted that “I had nothing to do with Russia helping me get elected.”

Trump confirmed in the tweet what is already clear from the record: the Russia specifically was working to help him by releasing damaging hacked material against Hillary Clinton. Trump has repeatedly claimed that he was the last person Russia wanted to see elected despite the record showing the targeting of Clinton

Nothing will deter Trump from continuing such Tweet tirades but he often seems to tweet without any filter or review. Thus, recently Trump was ridiculed for calling Joe Biden a “low-IQ individual” but misspelled Biden as “Bidan.”

The latest tweet is something of an admission. Later Trump reposted the tweet while correcting a typo in the second tweet, changing “acquisition” to “accusation”:

Donald J. Trump✔@realDonaldTrump · 4h

Russia, Russia, Russia! That’s all you heard at the beginning of this Witch Hunt Hoax…And now Russia has disappeared because I had nothing to do with Russia helping me to get elected. It was a crime that didn’t exist. So now the Dems and their partner, the Fake News Media,…..

Donald J. Trump✔@realDonaldTrump

….say he fought back against this phony crime that didn’t exist, this horrendous false accusation, and he shouldn’t fight back, he should just sit back and take it. Could this be Obstruction? No, Mueller didn’t find Obstruction either. Presidential Harassment!66.8K7:57 AM – May 30, 2019Twitter Ads info and privacy30.9K people are talking about this

100 thoughts on “Trump: “I Had Nothing To Do With Russia Helping Me To Get Elected””

  1. Well Heck!

    I meant to post the below on this thread.

    And should have told the readers the Richard Barns speaking starts at about 50:00 minutes in & lasts about an hour:

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    Oky1 says:
    May 31, 2019 at 12:21 AM

    Take a look if you’d like to hear the difference of the way Prof Turley is speaking vs a reputable constitution lawyer Richard Barns in regards to the Mueller/Demo/Never Trumpers pissgate thingy, “Matter”.

    https://www.brighteon.com/6042899352001

  2. If Trump survives all the impeach Trump efforts and decides to run again for another term then the voters will have the right to choose. If it is Biden vs. Trump then I think Biden will win. If it is Bernie or some of these other folks then Trump will win again.

    1. It really needs to be better understood that the Russians did not somehow taint the 2016 election, even if their intention was specifically to hurt Hillary. The Russian Facebook posts could not conceivably have influenced one single vote, and the hacking (using standard methods that had failed against the RNC’s servers) only exposed actual corruption in the Clinton camp that should have been more widely reported by our own media anyway. Is the narrative going to be that the public wasn’t supposed to have known about illegal activity and election-rigging by the DNC?

      1. Isaac. There was no election rigging by the DNC. You are repeating a favorite lie of the Bernie Bros and Trumpsters. If you disagree, state the evidence.

  5. THE MADNESS OF KING DONALD

    Today we saw two instances where Trump’s behavior ranged from arrogantly foolish to mentally unstable.

    First there was a request from White House staffers that a U.S. warship be moved so that Trump wouldn’t have to see it. When asked about said incident, Trump responded that it wasn’t ‘his’ request but whoever made the request did so with ‘good intentions’.

    Before the above had barely played in media, Trump tweeted: “And now Russia has disappeared because I had nothing to do with Russia helping me to get elected”.

    The reaction of Trump loyalists to these incidents has been predictably defensive. Which validates Trump’s observation from two years ago that he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and his supporters would still love him.

    One has to seriously wonder how supporters would react if Trump broke down and ranted like a lunatic from behind a podium. By presidential standards, Trump has come close to ranting like a lunatic on many occasions. But what if Trump ranted total nonsense that was unmistakably nonsense? Like, “I am the Sun King! Bow before me, infidels!!”.

    Based on what I’ve seen today, even if Trump babbled such nonsense, his loyal supporters would still offer rationalizations. Like, “He’s just testing the mainstream media”. Or, “Trump meant that Global Warming is a hoax”.

    One gets a dreadful feeling this presidency is going to end in a very bad way.

    1. One gets a dreadful feeling this presidency is going to end in a very bad way.

      LOL! Yeah, with two full terms. 😱

  7. If Russia did indeed help Trump win the election, in spite of Hillary and Bill buying everything Russia during her stint as Secretary of State and their hiring Fusion GPS, then apparently Hillary is a really bad spy financier and a more terrible presidential candidate x2 than we all already knew

    Hillary makes Dictators like Stalin, Mao, Castro and Pol-Pot look like Nobel Prize winners.
    It’s a wonder she hasn’t set herself on fire

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA5UMNxLQgM

    Put away that can of gasoline and matches Bill! ROFLOL

    1. So incoherent, post doesn’t make sense, probably best to post prior to the crank kicking in.

    2. Jacqueline, you’re pathetic!

      You think this post is ‘devastating’ to the Clintons. But in reality it reveals you as a brainless zombie of a Trumper hopelessly trapped in the rightwing media bubble.

    3. Well done Jacqueline. Keep up the great work!

      And remember this Lawfare truth:
      Comey: Hillary is guilty so she shouldn’t be charged.
      Mueller: Trump is not guilty so he should be charged.

  8. Now to stick a knife smeared with garlic in the left and their idiot remarks. When they supported Money as Free Speech one of the results was opening up interference from foreign countries. When Obama extended and broadened the Patriot Act provisions especially those pertaining to ‘dealing with’ Terrorism he ‘forgot’ to exclude US Citizens and ha haha members of Congress.

    Leastwise I could never find it unless it was moved to a classified portion.

    When the left passed The War Powers Act they ignored it twice (Clinton and Obama

    Oh what a wicked web they wove
    When first the practiced to unrove
    The very net that served us best
    Checked and Balanced all the rest
    Failed to tell their own Collection
    Since HarryTruman’s first election
    And wonder why we point and laugh
    As they take their final choking gasp.

  9. L4D says– Anything Trump Tweets can and will be used against Trump in the court of public opinion.

    Imagine the TV campaign advertisements that replay Trump’s excited utterance of an unforced confession every seven minutes during prime time.

    “I had nothing to do with Russia helping to get me elected.”

    “Russia, if you’re listening . . .”

    “I love Wikileaks.”

    1. Imagine the anti-Trump crowd are stupid enough to spend their money paying the old dead media to run commercials against Trump.

      I case you live in a cave you would know no one is watching them any more & their viewers are fleeing truthful media.

      1. Oops/typo/

        I case you live in a cave you would know no one is watching them any more & their viewers are fleeing to truthful media.

        1. Excerpted from the article linked above (dated November 2nd, 2016):

          Trump, who has raised $795m overall, has spent $74m on TV ads.

          [end excerpt]

          Pa Joad is suggesting that Trump was “stupid enough to spend [$74 million] paying the old dead media to run commercials . . . . [that] no one is watching any more.”

  10. “Trump confirmed in the tweet what is already clear from the record: the Russia specifically was working to help him by releasing damaging hacked material against Hillary Clinton. Trump has repeatedly claimed that he was the last person Russia wanted to see elected despite the record showing the targeting of Clinton ”

    Jeezus P Turley, what you need new eye glasses, maybe you’ve not done your homework.

    But it’s your story/Lie that the DNC was Hacked, so Prove it.

    1. L4D says–Pa Joad, John Podesta’s Gmails were hacked from the Gmail cloud storage hosted by Google. That means that Podesta’s Gmails were NOT leaked from the DNC email servers. Given that all of the emails and Gmails were disseminated through Wikileaks, it is extremely unlikely that any of the DNC emails were leaked from the DNC. If it is extremely unlikely that the DNC emails were leaked, then it is highly likely that the DNC emails were hacked by the same people who had hacked Podesta’s Gmails, and the DCCC emails, and all of the other emails that were hacked from multiple, different email server systems.

  11. Professor Turley, your liberal bias is showing.

    Oh, and the American Founders considered speaking freely a virtue, rejecting insidious, clandestine machinations deleterious to representative governance in a republic.

    1. Oh George, your fascist bias is showing as well….

  12. Are you a lawyer or a gossip columnists? We get enough of this crap from the media. Try to be lawyer like.

    1. He is. Any counsel with half a brain would advise trump against such tweets

  13. PROFESSOR TURLEY IS MISTAKEN..

    RUSSIA TWEET IS ‘STILL’ ON TRUMP’S TWITTER FEED

    Just a few minutes ago, at about 2:33 pm EST, I was surprised to find that tweet was still on Trump’s Twitter feed.
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago

    Very sad to hear the news on the passing of my friend, Senator Thad Cochran. He was a real Senator with incredible values – even flew back to Senate from Mississippi for important Healthcare Vote when he was desperately ill. Thad never let our Country (or me) down!

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 3h3 hours ago

    Robert Mueller came to the Oval Office (along with other potential candidates) seeking to be named the Director of the FBI. He had already been in that position for 12 years, I told him NO. The next day he was named Special Counsel – A total Conflict of Interest. NICE!

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 4h4 hours ago

    “Comey and Brennan are turning on each other.” @kilmeade

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 5h5 hours ago

    Congressman John Ratcliffe, “The Trump Campaign clearly did not conspire or collude.” @FoxNews

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 7h7 hours ago

    ….say he fought back against this phony crime that didn’t exist, this horrendous false accusation, and he shouldn’t fight back, he should just sit back and take it. Could this be Obstruction? No, Mueller didn’t find Obstruction either. Presidential Harassment!

    *****************
    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 7h7 hours ago

    Russia, Russia, Russia! That’s all you heard at the beginning of this Witch Hunt Hoax…And now Russia has disappeared because I had nothing to do with Russia helping me to get elected. It was a crime that didn’t exist. So now the Dems and their partner, the Fake News Media,…..

    ******************

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 7h7 hours ago

    The Greatest Presidential Harassment in history. After spending $40,000,000 over two dark years, with unlimited access, people, resources and cooperation, highly conflicted Robert Mueller would have brought charges, if he had ANYTHING, but there were no charges to bring!

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 18h18 hours ago

    I was not informed about anything having to do with the Navy Ship USS John S. McCain during my recent visit to Japan. Nevertheless, @FLOTUS and I loved being with our great Military Men and Women – what a spectacular job they do!

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 18h18 hours ago

    Great show tonight @seanhannity, you really get it (9:00 P.M. @FoxNews), that’s why you’re Number One (by far)! Also, please tell Mark Levin congrats on having the Number One book!

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 18h18 hours ago

    How do you impeach a Republican President for a crime that was committed by the Democrats? WITCH-HUNT!

    1. Regarding Above:

      One might note that the Russia tweet is not the only dubious message here. That first tweet is another jab at John McCain. Trump also wants followers to be certain that Mueller’s probe was a ‘hoax’ (as if Trump hasn’t stated that enough).

      From any objective standpoint, this string of tweets is evidence that America’s current president is stark raving mad. 20 years from now historians will wonder how this madness persisted so long. Yet the comments of Trump supporters on this blog explains that most are blithering idiots, and, or, mentally impaired.

      1. if by mad you mean affected by senile dementia,. i would say, doesnt seem like it to me. And I know a lot of people who have developed it, and what he says does not really remind me of them whatsoever. it seems like many of the people who get it eschew technological devices even long before their illness becomes evident, other than tv and some of them will stop with the tv too. and just sit there.

        for an old guy he seems pretty sharp to me. biden too. i hope i make it that far. i already forget things and miss-speak sometimes. they say stress alone can cause forgetfulness and verbal errors.

        i think reagan was getting senile however. trump doesnt seem to even be close.

  14. I am really starting to detest the absurd over analysis of every statement made by President Trump (and even of others). EVERYONE knows what was meant. THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN did not work with the Russians but, just like every world actor, Russia has their preferences in leaders. They were pretty poor judge of character because Trump has treated Russia and its allies (Iran, China, Venezuela, Cuba) far worse than Obama or Clinton ever would have. Stop trying to parse statements into lies. And smearing those you disagree with politically. It really is a witchhunt.

    1. You think if Obama or Clinton tweeted the same it wouldn’t be scrutinized? The GOP was still raving over Obama’s 57 state gaffe years after the fact and trump misfires like that daily

      1. If you think the “media” treats Trump like any other President then you should see a doctor immediately.

    2. I am really starting to detest the absurd over analysis of every statement made by President Trump (and even of others).

      This is political capitalism. The Democrats (anti-Trumpers) have nothing else to sell. Economy, Immigration, Healthcare, Taxes? Yeah, not happening. They have to continue this moronic strategy and hope some of it sticks, because once their candidates begin debating those topics that are most important to the American people, then they’ll be exposed.

      Just sit back and grab some popcorn.

  15. Let’s see, now. Russia DID hack the DNC’s computers to obtain information on HRC for the purpose of helping Trump “win the victory.” His son and others met with Russians during the campaign, but Trump lied about the reason for the meeting, claiming it was about adoptions. HIs campaign manager is in prison for lying, but the campaign did funnel key polling information to Russians so they would know how to most-effectively direct a false social media campaign against HRC. AND……Trump knew nothing about any of this. So, we’re all supposed to believe that this all went on behind his back and he is just an innocent victim?

    Of course, neither Trump nor Trump, Jr. ever sat for depositions, nor did any of the Russian conspirators, so Mueller didn’t have all available evidence. When you have a conspiracy, if you don’t have evidence from all of the conspirators, you don’t have sufficient evidence to charge. Mueller made that very, very clear. Trump did admit that Russians helped him “win the victory”, finally. He and Pence are illegitimate, and always will be viewed as such.

      1. L4D says–First question for Don Jr.: Did you invoke your Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination to decline an interview with The Special Counsel’s Office?

        First answer from Don Jr.’s lawyer, Alan Futerfas: I advise my client not to answer that question on the grounds of attorney-client privilege.

        Mr. Futerfas, there is no attorney-client privilege over invocations of The Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. Your client must answer the question in public or invoke his Fifth Amendment right against . . . Wait a second. The Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination is a constitutionally protected civil right. It is not a crime to invoke The Fifth. Consequently, your client cannot incriminate himself by answering the question. Your client could only commit perjury by answering the question falsely. Your client must answer the question.

        1. https://www.thenation.com/article/mueller-report-obstruction-trump/
          “L4D says” a LOT of things”. She once stated that the attendees of the Trump Tower meeting admitted in Congressional testimony that they negotiated sanctions relief for Russia in exchange for emails damaging to Hillary.
          The fact that no such testimony exists is not an impediment for L4B to claim that it exists.
          The linked article states that Mueller did not subpoena Trump, Trump Jr, Ivanka Trump, Eric Trump, or Jared Kushner.

          1. L4D says–The linked article should have explained that Mueller did not subpoena Donald Trump Jr. because Donald Trump Jr. almost certainly invoked his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination when “requested” to answer questions and to grant an interview with The Special Counsel’s Office. Unfortunately, since the explanation for Donald Trump Jr.’s non-cooperation with the SCO was redacted for Rule 6(E) Grand Jury material, the linked article could not state what is otherwise obvious. Now, on what “legal theory” does any information obtained from a person who never testified before the Grand Jury and was never subpoenaed to testify before the Grand Jury get redacted for Rule 6(E) material? Don’t ask me. Ask AG Whitewash Casting Couch.

            1. Late4Dinner says: October 16, 2018 at 7:36 AM
              Tabarrok is in for such a rude awakening. Somewhere between November Seventh, 2018 and, let’s say, January Twentieth, 2019, Mueller will bring indictments against key members of the Trump campaign–including, especially, Trump’s Son, Don Jr.–on charges of Conspiracy to Defraud the United States. What happens next after that is debatable. Will a federal judge dismiss the charges against Don Jr. or any other key member of the Trump campaign? If Mueller indicts the strong case, then precious few federal judges will dismiss the charges. It’s doubtful that Mueller will indict the weak case; because a federal judge might dismiss the charges on the weak case. Will Trump then deploy the

              1. According to L4B, Mueller indicted Trump Jr. in late 2018 or early 2019. So L4B must have “known” months ago that Mueller had enough evidence to indictment Trump Jr. whether or nor he subpoenaed Jr.
                Now, she claims to know the reason that Mueller did not subpoena Trump Jr. But she already told us back in October 2018 that Mueller would indict him And she “knew” when that would happen.
                The entire L4B comment is in the archives in the comments section of JT’s column about the reasons that Mueller might not indict on obstruction. When I tried to copy her entire comment, the entire page got copied with it.
                So I just copied the opening part that displayed her inside “knowledge” of the OSC investigation.

                  1. L4D’s prediction was made on October 16, 2018 at 7:36 AM.

                    Mueller’s office announced Manafort’s breach of his cooperation agreement the Monday before November 26th, 2018.

                    There’s more than a month that went by between those two dates. So sue me.

                    1. There is no criminal or civil penalty for posting the loony ananysis and predictions L4B posts here. And there’s always some lame excuse for why they don’t pan out …….in this case, “if only” Manafort had fully cooperated with Mueller, then Mueller “would have” indicted Trump Jr.
                      Her prediction “would have” worked out . Sure🙄

  16. With all respect, Professor, I don’t see a story here.
    President Trump does not always express his thoughts in a clear manner. He has never been a slick communicator.
    So far, his only “crime” is that he does not speak like an English/ Speech major.

  17. Democrat desparation is deep and hard.
    They are now convicting on misstweets and misspoken words in the supreme court of hysteria, the media.
    Clearly they are emboldened by Muellers summary of the newly installed American Justice System.
    “We’ll get Trump first then we’re coming after the rest of America once we have set the precedent of prosecuting made up crimes with no due process Stalin Style.”

  18. How about using your brain, JT? The evidence clearly shows that top Putin insiders gave disinformation to Steele which the FBI ran with to go after Trump. The longer it takes for this simple fact to settle in the longer you look foolish. Even the NYT is starting to figure it out. The funniest part of this story is that all this was obvious 2 1/2 years ago.

    1. I don’t mean to diminish the many other obvious parts of this sprawling scandal: the roles of Obama/Clinton and their many cronies including Clapper, Brennan, Yates, Power, yada yada yada…and, as I said before, the abuse of the NSA database goes back 19+ years.

      1. Oops, I think you forgot tRump. Ummm, Ivan, is that a Russian name, comrade? Borscht for dinner again when will it end.

        1. LOL…you think I’m Russian! Do you see Russians lurking around every corner like Rachel Maddow? Careful, they might turn off your electricity tonight.

          1. L4D says–It is probable that The Russians planted disinformation in the dossier through Steele’s informant network for the express purpose of discrediting the dossier and Steele. That does not in any way whatsoever rebut the established fact that The Russians interfered in the 2016 election to favor Trump and to harm Clinton. It does, however, show that The Russians always have a plan within a plan, within a plan. just like their famous nesting dolls.

            1. “It’s probable” that Steele, his Russian contacts, and the contacts’ sources didn’t know what the hell they were talking about.
              There’s a reason why established media outlets declined to published the allegations in the Steele/ Russian Dossier when Steele and others were trying to get them to print it before the 2016 election.

              1. L4D says–And the reason is . . . that established media outlets are NOT in the employ of Hillary Rodham Clinton???

                But, but, but . . . if the MSM truly were “colluding” with “Crooked H,” then why wouldn’t they have published the Steele dossier so soon as it came in over the transom???

                1. The reason is that the established media needed verification beyond Steele’s opposition research for the DNC and the Hillary Campaign Fund before printing it right before the election.

                    1. If there were any point to answering L4B’s questions, I would do so. She would immediately jump around to posting links, giving us material “excerpted from” those links, change the subject, and carry on with her columns/ filibusters here.
                      I’d hate to interrupt her every time she does that, and she only has 4-6 + hour shifts to squeeze in her columns.

  19. Russia did not only work to help or hurt one candidate.

    Russia hurt Trump, as well, through the fake dossier, provided by Russian spies, and paid for by Hillary Clinton.

    Russia helped Bernie Sanders, until Democrat cheating at the primary knocked him out of contention. Obviously, they would want a comrade in office.

    “A 37-page indictment resulting from special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation shows that Russian nationals and businesses also worked to boost the campaigns of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and Green party nominee Jill Stein in an effort to damage Democrat Hillary Clinton.

    The Russians “engaged in operations primarily intended to communicate derogatory information about Hillary Clinton, to denigrate other candidates such as Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, and to support Bernie Sanders and then-candidate Donald Trump,” according to the indictment, which was issued Friday.”

    (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/02/17/indictment-russians-also-tried-help-bernie-sanders-jill-stein-presidential-campaigns/348051002/)

    Hillary Clinton was the candidate expected to win. Releasing disparaging information about her would have weakened her presidency, and delegitimized her. Truthful, damning information came out about her activities, as well as those of the DNC.

    Bernie Sanders would have been the candidate most amenable to Russia should he have won. Russia gave him a boost in the campaign, but DNC cheating knocked him out of contention.

    Should Jill Stein have won, she would have limited our military involvement globally, thus, again, freeing Russia to act more boldly.

    Why would Russia try to hurt Hillary, after a series of actions showed she was in Russia’s corner? Russian Re-set button. Uranium One following $145 million donation to her Foundation slush fund (when will that be investigated???). The Kazakstan uranium mining rights.

    There were two reasons. One was delegitimizing the predicted next leader of the United States, be it Trump or Hillary. Either one would be faced with tremendous head winds blowing from Russia. Most of the constant impeachment talks and angst about Trump were brought courtesy of Russia, beginning with the fake dossier that they got Hillary to pay millions for. Imagine, paying millions of dollars to play into the hand of a foreign government to defraud voters.

    Another reason was that Putin blamed Hillary for whipping up protestors after his election in 2011. She publicly stated that she considered the election in Russia was dishonest, which helped spark nationwide protests. She also was rather hawkish, supporting regime changes. That, combined with her declaration that his election was not legitimate, would give any world leader adversarial to the US pause.

    While she was allegedly for sale to influence peddlers, she was at the same time untrustworthy. She went where the wind blows, without taking a stand.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/clinton-putin-226153

    I believe that Russia’s goal was to destabilize the United States. They were successful. This weakens our position geopolitically. It makes us less effective combating the spread of Russia’s influence in Iran, North Korea, Venezuela, and elsewhere in the world. We are in a position of weakness at the negotiating table that would not have occurred if Americans did not cooperate with Russian interests in destabilizing our country. In addition, Russia is hard at work promoting anti-capitalism and pro-socialism sentiment. We can thank Russia for the fact that Bernie Sanders and AOC are able to get elected to office with socialist sympathies. Russian propaganda, and academic cooperation, has delivered a generation of voters ignorant of the economic and humanitarian catastrophe that socialism represents, or of the benefits and justice that capitalism combined with individual rights delivers.

    There were a few more notable omissions from the Mueller report. Unless something recently changed, the DNC never released their servers for inspection by the FBI. Their conclusion that Russians hacked the servers is based on equipment they never had access to. Another is that since Mueller’s focus was on the Trump campaign, he neither investigated nor mentioned Hillary Clinton working with the Russians to obtain false information against her political opponent, and defraud voters. That was a direct connection through Steele to the Russian government. Finally,

      1. And verbosity is the soul of a twit, or, in this case, you could change the “I” to an “a”.

    2. it was a leak not a hack. it was technically impossible for it to have been a hack. william binney proved this., i have posted the links to his work many times. it’s just ignored by the DNC and the Meuller operation and the press. Many people find it unbelievable i guess that the press would collaborate with the DOJ on such a massive misrepresentation of a key fact. but they do.

      1. The good old DOJ.

        Most Americans will believe almost anything if it’s sold in the right way by the press — and others.

        “Many people find it unbelievable i guess that the press would collaborate with the DOJ on such a massive misrepresentation of a key fact. but they do.”

        They certainly do. And I know it for a fact.

    3. I guess I believed Donna Brazille that the Hillary forces screwed bernie. I thought she would know since she was DNC chair, yes?. but you don’t credit her or perhaps I misunderstood what she said?

    4. OK, Honey. Because he is a multiple deadbeat, defaulting on many loans and can’t borrow in the US, Trump is indebted to Russian oligarchs. His son, Eric, admitted that Trump companies receive their financing from Russia. They wanted to help him cheat to “win the victory”, so they could own him. They wanted him to dissolve sanctions against Russia, which he did, they wanted him to denigrate NATO, which he did, they wanted him to help disrupt the EU, so he did. He sided with Putin and against American intelligence agencies that reported Russian’s interference with the 2016 election. He refuses to take steps to stop it from happening again. That’s what is publicly known so far. There is likely much, much more.

      What about the “dossier” was fake? What? Where is the fraud? What allegations in the Steele dossier have been PROVEN false? None. HRC’s campaign was approached by Paul Singer, not Russians. Singer started the investigation, which he handed off to HRC’s campaign when Trump got the GOP nomination. HRC was not only “expected to win”—she DID win the popular vote. With the help of the Trump campaign, Russians knew how to manipulate the Electoral College to defeat the will of the American people by a target-specific social media campaign directed to key districts in a few states. You need to stop repeating Hannity’s rant about “Uranium One”. There is no scandal or anything to investigate, because she didn’t cause this deal to happen. Multiple federal agencies signed off on this deal, and HRC’s signature was not involved.

    5. Karen S said, “That was a direct connection through Steele to the Russian government.”

      L4D says–Steele almost certainly told Oleg Deripaska about the dossier as soon as he started compiling it. Oleg Deripaska almost certainly told Paul Manafort about the dossier as soon as Deripaska found out about it. And that means that Trump and the Trump campaign almost certainly knew about the dossier in late June and early July of 2016. The FBI was not fully briefed on the dossier until late September of 2016. Trump, himself, probably knew about the dossier before the FBI did. Manafort probably had a hand in feeding some of the disinformation in the dossier to Deripaska who either directly fed that disinformation to Steele or forwarded that disinformation to The Russian Government to plant in Steele’s informant network.

      Meanwhile, the Clinton campaign never used the dossier–neither before the election nor after the election.

      1. A State Department official noted that “Steele’s client” was eager to have the material from the Russian Dossier publishished before the election.
        As noted, the established media didn’t bite.

        1. L4D says–That is not what Victoria Nuland said. To what other nameless State Department official are you referring, Great Garbler?

          1. L4D says–Excerpted from the Wikipedia entry for The Trump-Russia Dossier:

            Steele met with Jonathan Winer in September, then the U.S. deputy assistant secretary of state for international law enforcement, whom he had known since 2009. In a 2018 editorial for The Washington Post, Winer recounted that during their meeting in Washington, he was allowed to review Steele’s reports, but not to keep a copy: “I prepared a two-page summary and shared it with [Victoria] Nuland, who indicated that, like me, she felt that the secretary of state needed to be made aware of this material,” he wrote.

            2. Ashley Balcerzak (26 September 2016). “Russian-born oil magnate gives big to Trump Victory”. OpenSecrets.org. The Center for Responsive Politics. Retrieved 1 October 2016.

              1. It’s not surprising that her nomination nation was withdrawn once her activities involving Steele and Ohr became known.
                And those “back-channel” activities were probably after the FBI cut ties with Steele for lying to them.
                I don’t know the status of the criminal referral to the DOJ regarding the allegations that Steele lied to the FBI; it was made over a year ago.

              2. L4D says–I did not post a link to Sara A Carter. Did I? OMG. Yes I did. What’s going on? What’s going on?

                I can explain. The Sara A Carter link is the only one that I could find that mentions Sergei Millian and Simon Kukes. And you really need to find out about those two guys in order to make sense of Nunes, Meadows and Citizens United’s latest rendition of the Carter Page FISA warrant abuse scandal Part Three.

                You see, as it turns out, Kathleen Kavalec and Bruce Ohr were exchanging emails on the subjects of Sergei Millian and Simon Kukes. They were not exchanging emails on the subjects of Carter Page nor George Papadopoulos. For one thing, Christopher Steele didn’t know a damned thing about George Papadopoulos, because Sergei Millian neglected to tell Steele a damned thing about George Papadopoulos. Why not? How should I know?

                But even more to the point, how were Kathleen Kavalec and Bruce Ohr supposed to know a damned thing about George Papadopoulos, if Christopher Steele didn’t know a damned thing about George Papadopoulos? Keep in mind, there’s no record of Kavalec and Ohr exchanging emails on the subject of Carter Page, either.

                I swear. The garbling never ends. It’s truly uncanny. The garbling is.

                1. Kavalec’s nominations was probably pulled after her involvement with Ohr/Steele continued after the FBI dropped Steele for lying to them.
                  I guess that is the commemt that L4B is supposedly “replying to”. And her ability to garble is noted.

                  1. Did I post a link to a recap of the NBA finals? As long as this thread is being garbled by L4D’s jumping all over the place, I felt free to post something as relevant as her comments.

                    1. The link to Sara A Carter is far more informative than your link to the Washington Examiner. But you wouldn’t know that because you never click on the links and read the articles like normal people do.

                    2. If L4B believes that “normal people” read all of her disjointed comments and links, she’s even more deranged than previously known.

                    3. Tom,
                      You know what they say about pigs and mud. I’m not sure who reads her stuff anymore, but this is her daily routine. It’s sad, but just leave her to it. She’ll rack up her frequent poster miles and land on Turley’s infamous wall of *ahem* honor.

                    4. A comment by “Tom Nash” —

                      “If L4B believes that “normal people” read all of her disjointed comments and links, she’s even more deranged than previously known.”

                      Truth be told, unless “Tom Nash” is a hacker or with an intelligence agency. he has no idea who reads comments and links by “L4B” or anyone else.

                      I have to wonder how this “Tom Nash” fella would define “normal.”

      2. L4D says–Excerpted from the Wikipedia entry for The Trump-Russia Dossier:

        In early July 2016, Steele called seasoned FBI agent Michael Gaeta, who was stationed in Rome, and asked him to come to London so he could show him his findings. Because he was assigned to the U.S. embassy in Rome, Gaeta sought and was granted approval for the trip from Victoria Nuland, who was then the Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs. When he arrived in London on July 5, 2016, he met with Steele at his office. Alarmed by what he read, Gaeta remarked, “I have to show this to headquarters”.

        As Nuland later shared, “In the middle of July, when he [Steele] was doing this other work and became concerned, he passed two to four pages of short points of what he was finding and our immediate reaction to that was, ‘This is not in our purview’.” “This needs to go to the FBI if there is any concern here that one candidate or the election as a whole might be influenced by the Russian Federation. That’s something for the FBI to investigate.” Shortly after, in July, the report was sent to an agent with expertise in criminal organizations and organized crime at the FBI’s New York field office — essentially, the wrong person to handle a counterintelligence investigation.

        [end excerpt]

        So the FBI’s New York field office had Steele’s memos before the FBI headquarters did. That almost certainly means that Giuliani’s informant network of retired FBI agents from The New York Office had probably briefed Giuliani on the Steele dossier roughly two months before anyone at FBI headquarters was briefed about the Steele dossier. Meanwhile, chances are that Manafort had already been informed about the Steele dossier by Deripaska. The disinformation in the Steele dossier was probably put there to discredit and to mislead any FBI counter-intelligence investigation of Russia’s efforts at cultivating and recruiting members of the Trump campaign and Trump associates.

        2. My definition of “normal” does not include phony seers like L4B, pretending to have inside knowledge of the OSC investigation as it proceeded. It also doesn’t include a propagandist like L4B who can’t seem to maintain any rational train of thought or dialogue.
          But if that’s normal in her universe, what the hey.

          1. She noted that “Steele’s client was keen” to see the Russian Dossier allegations published before the election.
            I mentioned that a State Dept. Official made that comment.
            You may recall, if your short term memory is intact, that you requested the name of that official when you apparently requested it.
            And that I provided it. Beyond that, I have no interest in following you into the deep weeds where your disjointed marathon crap invariably goes.
            So good luck continuing a conversation with yourself, which you’ve often proved yourself capable of.
            Hope the institution you’re confined to keeps allowing you access to the internet so you can continue to clutter the hell out of this thread site with your non-stop bullsh**.

  20. The latest tweet is something of an admission.

    Sure. He admits he had nothing to with it. The it was laid out in Mueller’s report as well as the findings that Team Trump had nothing to do with it.

    This is not that difficult to understand, but apparently very difficult for some to accept.

    1. Olli, that wasn’t the “it” in either Mueller’s report our house statement yesterday. Collusion has been long been public knowledge and the report confirms it.

      In fact, the collusion continues as Trump to date, starting with having Flynn call his Russian handler to tell them not to worry about Obama’s new sanctions after the election, has done nothing to prepare for Russian interference in the 2020 election while declaring his handler – Putin – innocent. If this guy is not a traitor to the US, he gives a great impression of one.

      2. Grasping at straws are we …. again…… Collusion fool is not a crime.

        The last refuge of your kind is become Collectively Stupid.

      3. Congress is responsible for laws that concern the federal elections, not Trump.

        who controls Congress? Oh. . maybe Putin is Pelosi “handler” too? I’ll bet he could handle her alright

      4. PS Kurtz. The GOP controlled both houses of Congress until this January and was told in 2016 that the Russians were interfering in our election.

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