We have previously discussed Rep. Al Green’s remarkably low and fluid standard for impeachable offenses. It now appears to be not only low and fluid but repetitive. On Thursday, the Texas Democrat said on C-Span that a “president can be impeached more than once” and that there is “no limit” to how times the House might want to impeach Trump. In my testimony before the House Judiciary Committee, I warned that this incomplete record would lend itself to a type of impulse-buy impeachment. Green’s remarks raises the specter of not just impulsive but compulsive impeachments.
Green stated “I think that the Mueller report has some issues in it that ought to be considered. I think the obstruction of the Comey investigation has issues that should be considered, and I think the invidious discrimination that I have called to the attention of the public ought to be considered,”
He added:
“My hope is we will expand this and take up additional issues. I would also say this for your viewers, for edification purposes — a president can be impeached more than once. So we can do this — we can move forward with what we have on the table currently. We can take this before the Senate, and we can still investigate other issues, and when the president has committed additional offenses — and my suspicion is that he will — we can take those before the Senate.”
“There is no limit on the number of the times the Senate can vote to convict or not [convict] a president. No limit to the number of times a House can vote to impeach, or not, a president. So my belief is that the speaker will probably say we are going to move forward with what we have now, but we are not going to end investigations and that there may be a possible opportunity to do other things at a later time.”
Given the short (and in my view insufficient) investigation on the current issues, it is doubtful that Green’s concept of impeaching early and often would appeal to Speaker Pelosi.
What are the “original intent” and current criteria for “citizenship” in China, Japan, Vatican City, Lichtenstein, Bhutan, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Switzerland, Mexico, Canada, Ireland, Paraguay, Israel, etc., which, apparently, all have “No Vacancy” signs out. I go with the Founders “original intent” given the incessant, persistent and insoluble strife, hysteria, incoherence, chaos, anarchy and rebellion which constitute the current American condition.
Point of fact: The status of slaves changed from “property” to “illegal alien” upon the issuance of the unconstitutional emancipation proclamation requiring immediate deportation per the Naturalization Act of 1802 which was in full force and effect in 1863 – a cold case requiring resolution.
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“[F]oreigners…produce a heterogeneous compound…a discordant intermixture must have an injurious tendency.”
“The influx of foreigners must, therefore, tend to produce a heterogeneous compound; to change and corrupt the national spirit; to complicate and confound public opinion; to introduce foreign propensities. In the composition of society, the harmony of the ingredients is all-important, and whatever tends to a discordant intermixture must have an injurious tendency.”
– Alexander Hamilton
Dear Natasha, I took the time to look at some of these bills that were passed in the house ” Bipartisan “. Not. The ones I saw were not ” Bipartisan “. I confess that I did not look at all of them, but the ones I saw, I’m glad he’s put them in the graveyard. I don’t want them passed either.
It’s certainly a target rich environment, plus with all of the subpoenas working their way through the courts each count could take a while.
Black and Latino minorities have the lowest unemployment rates in history. The Democrat party cannot have that. They’ve been promising nirvana through government care for generations. However, wherever Democrats have total power is a wasteland. It’s like the Walking Dead in many parts of CA.
They must be beside themselves that Republican policies, and unraveling Obama’s Democrat policies, actually worked. They can’t have blacks and Latinos doing well! That’s their voting bloc! That’s why they hurl savage racist slurs at black conservatives. They call them every name in the KKK playbook, trying to intimidate and pressure blacks to vote how they’re told. I cannot understand why any black person would vote Democrat. They have to think, if they didn’t vote Democrat, those same people promising to help would be calling them racist names. And that’s what they want to support? Do they really keep believing that Republicans are a racist party?
If they put a Socialist in power, that would pull the rug out from under blacks and Latinos. It would dump them right back into poverty, where they would be more agreeable to begging for government to take care of them…turning to the Democrats to be their saviors. Funny, the line is usually, vote for a Democrat and solve all your problems. Will voters ever snap out of it and realize how much worse they are off?
Democrats have ruled Chicago for around 90 years. Shouldn’t it be a Tomorrowland of peace and prosperity? That’s what they promise every election cycle. But some parts of Chicago are gangland, with death tolls similar to war torn villages.
Democrats promise to be robber barons, stealing from the middle and upper class, and giving to the poor. Turning black against white, woman against man, gay against straight, transgender against feminist, Democrat against Republican, atheist against Christian (but not Muslim, because they don’t want to die), and Progressives against Israel. Poor against rich. Vegan against Omnivore. It’s entire platform is figuring out who you’re supposed to hate on any given morning. Oh, and enemy #1 is Trump.
My grandparents were lifelong Democrats. I do not believe they would recognize their party.
Perhaps moderates will reclaim their party, and it will self adjust to more rational, reasonable people having intelligent discussions about policy instead of making false accusations against their opponents. But that’s not going to happen without a singularity of purpose and determination of moderates. They have to be willing to be attacked like conservatives are, and do what’s right.
Black and Latino minorities have the lowest unemployment rates in history. The Democrat party cannot have that. They’ve been promising nirvana through government care for generations.
I live in a city with 50% black Americans, 40% white, less than 6% Latinos. I am the only Latino in my very mixed barrio. At work I care for mostly black Americans and one day a week I work at a clinic where I care for mostly Latinos. Neither group talks about Trump, Pelosi, us vs them, reparations, get whitey, etc.
Pelosi and her Klan are completely divorced from the people for whom I care and advocate….on the local level. These groups are focused on the here and now, their families, their health, safety, their tomorrows, etc. I doubt any of them could locate Ukraine on a map….probably not even Russia.
Impeachment and “constitutional crisis” dont even register in their lexicon, When they see me it is because they are in dire straits and Pelosi’s talking points are of no use to them. Why bother?
Every time I see cable news shows at the university, gym, hospital TV monitors, I see wealthy people employed by big corporations dedicated to manipulating their viewers to think as them. It might happen if their viewers had 6 figure income jobs and wear clothing that is couture. Otherwise they have no substantial following…. except each other. Incest is best?
Blacks and Latinos are learning that to get ahead they have to depend on themselves just like every other American has done prior to LBJ
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Estovir, first, thank you for serving your community. The world would be a better place if more people paid it forward.
The last I looked into it, support for Trump had risen substantially in the black community. It was up to around 30%. I am very curious if this will reflect voting behavior, or will Latinos and African Americans vote by rote Democrat yet again. There seems to be an increase in blacks having a red pill moment and coming out, like Candace Owens, for example. Then there’s Larry Elder, of course Thomas Sowell, and many others. Will they get through, I wonder?
It is upsetting to hear Candace Owens’ account of being called every racist slur imaginable for coming out conservative. Of course, the video of white Democrats screaming in her face and dumping water over her head, harassing her at a restaurant, was really shocking. The hostility against black conservatives is really shocking. Kind of like what Professor Turley experienced recently, except with racism thrown in.
Karen S
During a period that lasted more than 100 years, black unemployment was zero.
Bill,
I think I understand what you’re trying to say.
Clivin Bundy of the Battle of Bunkervile Nevada Fame explained it in every man’s lexicon.
Paraphrasing he was saying even as bad as some of that was back then he could not help but wonder if colored people might not have had a better life in some ways then then under this LBJ/Democratic Plantation system.
A system of the Dims & some Rinos pre 1960’s where something like 70% of colored households had a husband & wife family unit in the home, instead of the Dims control where only about 30% had/have an adult male helping to form a family unit.
Where today over 60% of colored baby are killed in the womb & if they survived that large percentages will either be killed or imprisoned because of the failed drug and vice war of the gettos of places like NYC, Baltmore, Chicago, LA, Houston, etc….
I would find it had to believe that any American would want to give up working their real job of today & go back to the LBJ/Pelosi/Dims Plantation system of the total corruption of poverty.
Bill – are you somehow equating improved unemployment today in the black community with being enslaved? Seriously?
Karen S
You misunderstand. I’m merely saying that there was a long period when unemployment of African Americans was zero. What’s important today is NOT how many people have jobs, rather, how much are they being paid.
The per capita income of black American is fairly similar to that of an ordinary person in Britain or Spain. They are not, by any cross-national or historical comparison, a deprived population. They do face quality of life issues unusual in Europe because a large minority of blacks live in sections of town with elevated rates of street crime and school disorder. This problem can be effectively (though not comprehensively) addressed. People like you have absolutely no interest in doing so, of course.
Bill:
Here in CA, Democrat policies are blatantly hostile to employers. The state is bleeding jobs. Even the movie industry commonly films in other states and countries now, to save money. The entire state relies on Silicon Valley and a few pockets of successful holdouts.
The trend is for good jobs to exit, and minimum wage jobs to remain. Democrats thought the solution was to jack up the cost of labor, trying to make people working minimum wage jobs have a middle class lifestyle on one wage earner. However, minimum wage jobs don’t have that kind of margin. All it did was dry up more jobs. Many restaurants closed. This especially hurts the poor, who need there to be upward mobility in jobs. In addition, college is emphasized over trade schools. There are trades who badly need workers. Meanwhile, there are people wasting their time at minimum wage jobs, or with a gender studies degree. Our schools are turning out graduates who are illiterate, bad at basic math, and cannot express themselves. That makes it harder to advance from minimum wage to manager.
It’s like the state is fighting tooth and nail against the booming economy by sabotaging it in state.
So, in this sense, I agree with you that jobs need to be getting people somewhere. Most people, nationwide, in minimum wage jobs get a raise within a year. There needs to be those vertical job paths for this to happen.
That is why one should also look at other indices in addition to unemployment. For instance, there were millions who simply fell off the unemployment rolls under Obama, because they could not find work. That is not the case today. There are other indicates of increasing prosperity.
It is irresponsible that the media is not accurately analyzing the positives in our economy today. They are keeping voters in the dark. It’s like they can’t wait to put people back on unemployment and impoverished. Our economy is good so Democrats want to ruin it with socialist candidates.
bill mcwilliams – to be historically accurate, most of those African Americans you are talking about were not employed, but enslaved. That is a big difference. And what party was in charge of the states with slavery, why that would be Democrats, that right, Democrats.
Who learned the error in their ways, those that didn’t became republicans like you.
Tony – I have been a registered Independent for over 40 years. I have voted for Republicans, Democrats. Greens, Independents and Mickey Mouse. My people came to the US after the Civil War and moved into the Midwest.
They had nothing to do with slavery and were never Democrats. The Democrats carry a sin they can never get rid of.
https://youtu.be/_zrAnhgYzSo
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Mickey’s political career is finished. A video of a violent Mickey was leaked, ending any chance of success in politics.
Anonymous – Arizona has stopped counting votes for Mickey because he keeps failing to register as a write-in candidate. So, now I just do not vote for that race.
“Black and Latino minorities…?”
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Did you say “original intent?”
The Naturalization Acts of 1790, 1795, 1798 and 1802, as passed by the American Founders as congressional legislators, initially in 1790 within the year of the adoption of the Constitution, are shown below. Had “Crazy Abe” Lincoln not seized power, after his initial election with 38.9% of the vote a la Hitler, and barbarically prosecuted his “Reign of Terror” by suppressing his opposition, including his 1864 victory achieved through brute military force, which provided the opportunity for his similarly illegitimate successors to initiate the imposition of communism in America beginning with the elimination of classes from society and proceeding through “progressiveism” to the current communist American welfare state, the original “original intent” would be extant.
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United States Congress, “An act to establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization,” March 26, 1790
“Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That any Alien being a free white person, who shall have resided within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States for the term of two years, may be admitted to become a citizen thereof…”
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America is no longer original, America is a lie.
“Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive”
– Sir Walter Scott
George
George,
Diversity is not a strength, it’s a curse from Satin to be damned to hell.
No more humans, no horses, no dogs, no cats, no birds, just a mixed up of chain sawed mess of DNA cobbled together by insane lunitic scientist/ Vaxx makers & Govts.
I can hardly wait on all the new vaccines for their new diseases they’ve created mixing species like Pigs/Monkeys/Man.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-news/pig-monkey-hybrids-created-china-21043717
Oil and water do not mix. An emulsifier is required. In America, the political emulsifiers to assure the artificial mixture of “oil and water” are unconstitutional generational welfare, affirmative action privilege, food stamps, WIC, TANF, HAMP, HARP, HUD, HHS, forced busing, rent control, “Fair Housing” laws, “Non-Discrimination” laws, Social Security, Social Security Supplemental Income, Obamacare, Medicare, Medicaid, etc., etc., etc.
https://youtu.be/OZp1EL9cupY
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Oky1, Is this what Kramer encountered when he went into the wrong room when visiting a hospital patient?
People really didn’t think the Govt was spending $800 each for Hammers & a $1000 each on toilet seats did they?
With all our money they’re steal, no law n order what did they think they were spending it on.
Booze n hookers, that’s so yesterday I guess, for the uppity.
LOL 🙂
What are the “original intent” and current criteria for “citizenship” in China, Japan, Vatican City, Lichtenstein, Bhutan, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Switzerland, Mexico, Canada, Ireland, Paraguay, Israel, etc., which, apparently, all have “No Vacancy” signs out. I go with the Founders “original intent” given the incessant, persistent and insoluble strife, hysteria, incoherence, chaos, anarchy and rebellion which constitute the current American condition.
Point of fact: The status of slaves changed from “property” to “illegal alien” upon the issuance of the unconstitutional emancipation proclamation requiring immediate deportation per the Naturalization Act of 1802 which was in full force and effect in 1863 – a cold case requiring resolution.
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“[F]oreigners…produce a heterogeneous compound…a discordant intermixture must have an injurious tendency.”
“The influx of foreigners must, therefore, tend to produce a heterogeneous compound; to change and corrupt the national spirit; to complicate and confound public opinion; to introduce foreign propensities. In the composition of society, the harmony of the ingredients is all-important, and whatever tends to a discordant intermixture must have an injurious tendency.”
– Alexander Hamilton
Sanders is an FDR democrat.Social Security and Medicare are socialists programs and the most popular programs in the country.
Free education is a standard right in the USA and free college used to be available in this country and Europe copied this standard.
California free college built Silicon Valley and it was republicans who destroyed it.
You communists just love “free stuff” from Other People’s Money, understanding that the American thesis was and is: Freedom through self-reliance.
There was some dork on TV last night named Al Green. He was bad.
Alzheimer, love, don’t look now but Al Green is the subject of this post and most comments. So, like, we know!😊
Kimberley Strassel just named Jonathan Turley her “Winner of the Week” while a panelist on the Bret Baer show. Come back to Fox, Prof. Turley!!
So they won’t be getting anything done for 4 more years, great.
Turley Calls Investigation ‘Insufficient’
It Is Because Trump Obstructs
This passage stands out from the Professor’s column above:
“Given the short (and in my view insufficient) investigation on the current issues, it is doubtful that Green’s concept of impeaching early and often would appeal to Speaker Pelosi”.
The truth is The White House is doing everything possible to delay the investigation. However understandable this strategy might be, it largely accounts for the ‘insufficient’ investigation; a point Turley ignores.
Tim, actually, Professor Turley said that the courts have been the remedy for disagreements between the two branches since our country was founded. If going to the courts was going to be deemed obstruction, and impeachable obstruction at that, then he said that it was going to be Congress who was guilty of abuse of power.
Trump has been denied due process. In fact, turning to the courts to decide was deemed an impeachable offense. Can you imagine getting punished for filing a lawsuit? He is not allowed to call witnesses. His team is not allowed to question witnesses. If any of his team appeared, he was told he’d have to waive executive privilege.
Only a fool would cooperate with a lawless coup attempt by Democrats, who stated the day after the election that they would never accept the result, and would impeach him. There are myriad videos of Democrats all claiming they would impeach Trump for the past 3 years.
Meanwhile, this Democrat abuse of power has destabilized our country. This is going on while Trump is overseas dealing with foreign nations, while Democrats undermine him back home.
There is no evidence of any bribery, any fraudulent quid pro quo. This is a despicable power grab one would normally expect in a third world country.
500 law professors state otherwise.
2019 law professors state otherwise.
I’m always behind the times. Thanks.
David – you misunderstand. NO ONE is saying there is direct evidence of a quid pro quo. The Democrat witnesses said they heard it or assumed it, but no one tied aid to any investigation.
I am curious. Why is it OK with you for Demcorats to threaten the President of the US for investigating alleged criminal activity by Joe Biden? Are you claiming that Joe Biden should not be investigated because any wrongdoing uncovered would benefit the Republican Party?
Are Democrat Presidential candidates above the law? If that’s the case, then why investigate Trump? It would, after all, benefit Demcorats.
500 law professors believe that the courts are not the remedy for disagreements between the two branches? Is that really what you think? Then why have so many Administration cases been brought before the Supreme Court? Obama lost a great many of those.
Karen S
Many people agree that Trump’s “election” was a coup. You agree with that, right?
bill mcwilliams – I would agree that many people claim that Trump’s election was a coup. I will agree it was a surprise to many people, including me.
It was a major unanticipated win for a candidate who was given virtually no chance of winning.
Not a “coup”.
I think the actual coup efforts ( insurance policies) followed that upset victory.
Bill – it depends upon the context. “Coup” is either an illegal seizure of government (where a soft coup is non violent and/or gradual), or a bold and successful stroke. Then there’s the Native American “counting coup” which is prestige measured by brave and courageous acts against an enemy, like rushing up to him and striking him.
When I say this is an attempted soft coup, I am referring to Congress and other activists’ abuse of power to attempt to oust a president, refusing to recognize a lawful election.
I do agree that Trump’s election was a major coup, meaning bold win, against the establishment and status quo. People were tired of their politicians counting on their votes, and promptly ignoring them.
Trump’s win, and the impeachment efforts, would apply two very different meanings of the word “coup.”
I suspect that Bernie Sanders gained popularity because the status quo Democrat policies were either not helping their voters, or leaving them worse off. He appeals to those who think a more extremist form of Democrat policies might succeed.
Coup is a “blow” or a “stroke.”
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Hillary Clinton in 2016 before the commencement of the coup against the duly elected President:
“To say you won’t respect the results of the election, that is a direct threat to our democracy,…”
“The peaceful transfer of power is one of the things that makes America America.”
“And look, some people are sore losers, and we just got to keep going,…”
what investigation?
Again, our legislators are not legislating, they’re bury chasing Trump. Our country is being run by executive orders and bureaucrats who were appointed and not elected. When are the people going to wake up?
Well Bob, McConnell has 275 bills on his desk that were passed, bipartisan, in the House, that he refuses to call for a vote in the Senate or even refer to conference committee. This is so that Republicans can claim that Democrats are “do nothing”.
like the infrastructure bill?
oh
btw jobs growth goes up again best rate in 50 years
and you guys hate Trump. enemies of the people!
at least the 159 M with jobs!
https://www.cnsnews.com/article/national/susan-jones/158593000-employed-november-24th-record-breaker-trump
“Turleyneestodienow says:
December 6, 2019 at 3:12 PM
Turley is a pathological liar who blocks comments on his site to rig discourse. I opened the people threatening him succeed, it’d be a great Christmas gift to hear this criminal lying perjurers died
it’s hard to tell who the author of this venemous comment is:
Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, Jerold Nadler, Chris Cilizia, NYT, CNN, Wash Post, and thousands more haters of America
Of course, as the good professor elucidated, President Trump committed no treason, bribery, crimes, high crimes or misdemeanors. TDS has devoured the communists (i.e. liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats), most of whom were never intended by the Founders to vote in any case.
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“You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.”
– P.T. Barnum
Some of my more detailed Constitutional Law study is a bit rusty, but would there be any kind of “double jeopardy” argument that may apply, assuming that a subsequent impeachment drew upon the same set of facts and circumstances to claim impeachable conduct and assuming an acquittal by the Senate? I saw Neil Katyal (attorney from Obama Administration) say that if Trump were acquitted by the Senate, the House could just impeach him again.
double jeopardy is for crimes. congress power of impeachment is probably above that. but Congress can pass resolutions saying whatever they like. they can pass a resolution that day is night and night is day, but do they want to look that stupid?
“but do they want to look that stupid?”
You really don’t know how Democrats think do you?
Nancy Pelosi just stated that Clinton’s impeachment, which she voted against, was for “something stupid”…….
unfrickenbelievable, but hey it’s the Democrat way
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton#Impeachment_by_House_of_Representatives
Article I charged that Clinton lied to the grand jury concerning:
the nature and details of his relationship with Lewinsky
prior false statements he made in the Jones deposition
prior false statements he allowed his lawyer to make characterizing Lewinsky’s affidavit
his attempts to tamper with witnesses
Article II charged Clinton with attempting to obstruct justice in the Jones case by:
encouraging Lewinsky to file a false affidavit
encouraging Lewinsky to give false testimony if and when she was called to testify
concealing gifts he had given to Lewinsky that had been subpoenaed
attempting to secure a job for Lewinsky to influence her testimony
permitting his lawyer to make false statements characterizing Lewinsky’s affidavit
attempting to tamper with the possible testimony of his secretary Betty Currie
making false and misleading statements to potential grand jury witnesses
She didn’t care that Hillary lied either, so at least she’s consistent.
Prairie Rose – Pelosi votes a straight Democratic ticket.
Pelosi: HATE ? “Im a Catholic! I’m a Catholic!” ABORTION? “I’m a liberal, I’m a liberal!” IMPEACHMENT? “I’m doomed!, I’m doomed!”
One outta three ain’t bad.
mespo – Pelosi is a Catholic so she cannot hate. Do we forget the Inquisitions, Crusades, Guy Fawkes. etc.?
Come on, Paul. That was out of love! For their souls, ya know.
mespo – Nancy Pelosi does not have a soul. Prove me wrong. 😉
After Pelosi did her BS rant about not having any hatred in her to the reporter, the reporter’s next question should have started: So Pelosi, about our deeply repressed hatred of the unborn & the 100 million plus Trump supporters, confess your sins here & tell us more….
But that’d have me as a reporter, Alex Jones or any of his friends removed from the property.
I hope reporters will grab ahold of this issue, Pelosi’s hatred on mankind.
Well, give them haters the fishermen’s treatment…. something…, & fishheads. 😉
Paul— Nancy is correct. Catholics do not hate.
Cindy Bragg – Shirley you jest. As a former Catholic I have hated.
Paul….LOL……well I’m sure the object of your hatred was deserving! And I’m sure former hatred doesn’t count.
👨🎓(modified nun’s habit)
Cindy Bragg – that nun deserved every bit of my hatred. She was so insane, the next year the order had her committed.
P.S. Paul….I meant to write: Catholics don’t hate, and Baptists don’t drink. 😄
Cindy Bragg – yah, right. 😉
Paul…..wow….I’ve heard about some nuns, but didn’t appreciate the stories.
That’s just awful that children would be exposed to that behavior.
Cindy Bragg – this happened in the days when if you got hit at school, you got hit at home. And that nun was a hitter.
Paul…..you poor kid! Comedian Dennis Miller did a routine years ago about growing up in Catholic school. He talked about the nuns, and said he tried his best to behave because he “wanted to live!”
I used to laugh about that. Not now.
Catholics love…young boys.
https://images.app.goo.gl/7dowttgeSNWN1PCw9
Whether Pelosi hates or does not hate, she still keeps Trump in her prayers.
Anonymous – hands up of everyone who thinks Pelosi prays for the well-being of the President. Next hands up for everyone who thinks Pelosi prays each night that Trump and Pence did simultaneously.
I have to wonder if she’ll say, “You’ll have to vote for impeachment before you can find out what’s in the charging documents.”
Darren Smith – we both know she has not read Schiff’s Report (which he is too chicken to deliver himself) and she sure didn’t read all the transcripts, so what is she basing her push for impeachment on? I say it is TDS?
LOL:)
Now that’s Funny!!!
🙂 With the paucity of evidence to craft articles of impeachment, that’s exactly what she’s saying. She’s playing impeachment hot potato and she wants that out of the House and into the hands of the Senate.
The communists (i.e. liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats) could care less about the means.
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“It’s the end, stupid.”
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“The end may justify the means as long as there is something that justifies the end.”
– Leon Trotsky,
The workaround for the House would be to charge him with a different offense each time, such as using the trash bin instead of recycling or removing the tag from a mattress: though it does become a bit of a vexatious prosecution to continually try a person on foundationless cases.
Didn’t seem to phase you during the countless Clinton investigations.
Tony – the Clinton investigation was run by Ken Starr (Independent Counsel) and the Starr Report had enough to use to impeach Clinton on. The Mueller Report was a nothing-burger when it came to Trump, so Congress has nothing to impeach him with. They just could get some Democrats to break ranks to convict him.
Let’s face it. Bill and Hillary were guilty of a lot of stuff that they got away with.
Like the investigation of the bribe that Hillary took from Tyson Chicken 4 decades ago? As the Arkansas governor’s wife, Hills turned 1K into 100K in six months while baking cookies and trusting only her “acumen” for futures trading, as if anyone believes she even knew what “futures” were. There’s a little broker’s trick whereby the gains from Tyson’s account were posted to Hillary’s while Hillary’s losses were posted to Tyson’s account, ergo, a transfer of funds, aka a bribe. Bill and Hillary Clinton should have gone to prison for that crime alone. Those low-life, power-hungry parasites were never investigated for that one. Perhaps you can inform us why not, huh, Tony?
BTW, wait’ll you see what you get through a simple audit of the Clinton Foundation books since inception.
Investigate that.
Yet never convicted must be the greatest criminal minds of our time more likely though you are one of the feeblest to believe what you post
What the Senate does is entirely up to the Senate- that’s the Constitution. They could simply vote to dismiss any impeachment issued from the House…no trial necessary. They wouldn’t do it first time round, but certainly on the second, third, etc. They could vote to censure the House.
RS:
Nobody pays much attention to repetitive stupid or repetitive vindictiveness.
For some reason, I continue to read your vitriol.
Bill raped Broaddrick, committed perjury, suborned perjury, obstructed justice, destroyed evidence, tampered with evidence, coached Monica to sign an affidavit to avoid testifying, left Monica on her own, dangling in the hurricane of relentless humiliation, cheated on his wife and daughter, cost the tax payers many millions, slandered Paula, intimidated witnesses on numerous occasions and he wasn’t impeached.
Leftists have coddled this deeply disturbed psychopath his entire life. Trump sneezes and our constitution, our democracy, our very way of life teeter on the verge of collapse.
And Bill Clinton did a hell of a lot more (unethical and criminal) than that. Read “No one left to lie to” by Christopher Hitchens. Clinton didn’t finish his Rhodes scholarship (unprecedented) because of a rumored rape. Don’t read ‘No one left to lie to” is you respect justice and or the Clintons.
Not even mentioning his ’96 re-election and his ‘problems’ (or OUR problems now, since before Clinton China couldn’t seem to launch rockets without them blowing up)with campaign funds. Good thing Janet Reno was ‘on the job’ (good for Clinton that is) And that stolen W-88 nuclear design cost the US billions to develop.
Pelosi the Prostitute has lost her fragrant Eau de Toilette
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“Hannity and Maddow trounce CNN impeachment town hall with Pelosi”
Sean Hannity and Rachel Maddow’s Thursday night episodes had significantly more viewers than CNN’s impeachment town hall with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Her televised town hall coincided with her directing the House committee chairmen to draft articles of impeachment earlier in the day.
Sean Hannity, the host of the most-watched cable news program on Fox News, had 3,750,000 viewers for Thursday’s show, with 618,000 in the key 25-54 age demographic, according to Nielsen Media Research. He led the three cable news networks in both categories with Maddow trailing him in second. Maddow, who hosts MSNBC’s most-watched show, had an audience of 2,628,000 with 420,000 in the key demographic.
Comparatively, Pelosi’s town hall, which was hosted by Jake Tapper, had 1,645,000 viewers with 410,000 in the key demographic.
Pelosi’s counterpart in the Republican Party, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, appeared on Hannity’s show. During his appearance, McCarthy chided Pelosi for directing articles of impeachment to be written up, and he accused her of having “wasted her entire majority on” impeachment.
Givenchy: ” Pelosi the Prostitute has lost her fragrant Eau de Toilette”
This may kill Pepe (le Pew). They’ve been close for years.
Emmm, peach mint, my favorite flavor!
Serve it often.
Don the Con and the GOP “Gang Of Putin” and Moscow Mitch have the whole thing wrapped up already. Facts be damned, If ya can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullsh*it. Throw anything and everything against the wall, and 40% will believe it. Trump said he loves the uneducated, and the GOP “Gang Of Putin” will use that, as they have been.
“…[W]hatever tends to a discordant intermixture must have an injurious tendency.”
– Alexander Hamilton
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“…[T]he people are nothing but a great beast…I have learned to hold popular opinion of no value.”
– Alexander Hamilton
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Now you know why “democracy” was created with a restricted vote in Greece and perpetuated as such in Rome. Now you know why the American Founders restricted the vote to: Male, European, 21 with 50 lbs. Sterling or 50 acres. No you know why “democracy” has devolved into chaos. Now you know the absolute imperative of the restricted vote. Governance will be of the capable, successful and vested, or governance will be of the masses; the great unwashed; the teeming hordes.
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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship…”
– Alexander Fraser Tytler
Oh for God’s sake. Democrats will never accept a Republican President at this point. It will be endless coup attempts, impeachment, constant stream of false allegations in the news…
It will never end.
Don’t vote for all this hate and tyranny. We need more voices among Democrat voters, in addition to Professor Turley, calling this out.
“ It will be endless coup attempts, impeachment, constant stream of false allegations in the news…”
Too late.
The Democrats have made this country into an impeaching nation when they dont get their way. …”a way of life”
She thinks Clinton’s perjury was a non-issue but calling Trump is supposed to have gravitas
We are so screwed
https://nypost.com/2019/12/06/nancy-pelosi-bill-clinton-was-impeached-for-being-stupid-about-lewinsky-affair/
Nancy Pelosi: Bill Clinton was impeached for ‘being stupid’ about Lewinsky affair
Nancy Pelosi said during a televised town hall Thursday night that former President Bill Clinton was impeached for “being stupid’ when he lied about having an affair with Monica Lewinsky.
The House speaker, asked why she supports impeachment proceedings against President Trump when she didn’t back Bubba’s ouster, said the situations were like apples and oranges.
“Some of these same people are saying, ‘Oh, this doesn’t rise to impeachment.’ Right there, impeaching Bill Clinton for being stupid in terms of something like that,” the California Democrat said at the gathering in DC, which was televised by CNN.
“I mean, I love him, I think he was a great president, but being stupid in terms of that, what would somebody do, not to embarrass their family, but in any event, so they did Bill Clinton,” she continued, adding that she was also under pressure from fellow Dems to impeach President George W. Bush.
“They [wanted] me to do George Bush, I didn’t want [impeachment] to be a way of life in our country,” she said.
“…what would somebody do, not to embarrass their family,” Nan
Well, let’s think about that, Nan. How ’bout not repeatedly receive the tongue from a 22 year old woman, whose heart he broke. How ’bout we start there?
Don’t do perjury? Suborn perjury? Rape Juanita? Expose himself to Paula? Assault Willey? Conspire to obstruct justice? Offer jobs to state police who lie for him? Turn his back on the Holocaust of the 1990s? For starters, Nan.
Hi Karen!
I guess everything went ok for you & your friends with those fires out in Cali.
I;ve been close up to prairie fires here & see them now as a bit scary if if one was to get trapped.
Sorry if I was a bit over bearing on the vaccine stuff. Let me just say if it was someone shooting people with a gun, it’d get called in & swat would show up & take them out, but hey, they’ve got a white lab coat & a Syringe so many think it’s just fine/safe & we all should be forced to trust them. (Sen Pen/NYC) Where’s VP Pence’s US yearly Vax injury report for the last 3 years? anyway…
But back on the topic of your post.
At this point I believe it’s clear to me that the Dims/Rino Trump haters have long been a National Security Threat.
How does one say it nice? I’ll same the rough, will see what breaks out with certain people.
I’d think AG Barr had better make a lot of arrests of those traitors.
Oky1 – yes, thanks for asking. California burned again, as per usual. Except this time, Edison had shut the power off. Those of us on a well had no water in their hoses without power. We have a generator, but not everyone does.
Some people lost their homes because their automatic fire sprinklers couldn’t work without power to run their water.
No, you were not overwhelming on the vaccine issue. People tend to have strong opinions either way about it, especially since children are involved. I am vehemently against government mandating vaccines, especially because your own pediatrician cannot make a determination that your child had a bad reaction. The bar is so high that there needs to be actual damage. It’s insanity. Such reactions often get worse and worse. Essentially, the government is forcing parents to give more vaccines to a child after he or she had a bad reaction until they require resuscitation, or receive permanent brain damage. It should be against the Hippocratic Oath. It makes children property of the State, and not their parents.
If pharmaceutical companies come out with a new vaccine that has a high risk of side effects, and they lobby to get it on that mandated list, parents would not have the right to opt out for their kids. It is madness to give the government that kind of control over your children’s medical care.
I also agree with you that activists have abused power to a very serious degree. It’s reached critical mass that operates independently of all three branches of government. There was never supposed to be an unelected ruling bureaucracy, unanswerable to the people. However, we have seen activists target Republicans and help Democrats in the alphabet soup of government: the IRS (Lois Lerner), NSA (Clapper lied about spying), EPA (just a Democrat activist organization at this time land snatching and creating hostility with land owners, farmers and ranchers), FBI (Comey et al)…It just goes on. Activists get into positions of power and abuse their authority to benefit the Democratic Party.
I don’t want this to become the way the game is played. I don’t want both sides to start doing this, based on the Democrat precedent. It would be like every time a new lion takes over the pride, he kills all dependent cubs. Will this be the new normal? A new President gets in, establishes his agents at all levels of government, and rules all aspects of government with impunity? What I think more likely is that the Democrats will establish a Single Party State. Conservative students are already harassed, threatened, and punished for not conforming to group think in K-grad school. Even professors threaten them. Non conformance with the Democrat Party puts you in the sights of various government agencies. Democrats in Congress abuse their authority to investigate and impeach a Republican president on groundless accusations. They are trying to change the electoral college to cheat, and ensure that no Republican will ever win again.
Sure, a Republican can run for election, but he or she will not be allowed to win.
Karen: the entire world laughs at him. Today, the North Koreans called him a “dotard” again. Only blind disciples can’t see him for what he is. And, sadly, Turley had to compromise his credibility trying to argue that Trump’s blanket refusal to cooperate with subpoenas for witnesses and documents isn’t obstruction until he has exhausted all appeals. He had the opposite opinion in 2016, so he’ll forever be seen as a partisan hack.
No one has impeached any Republican President since Nixon, so your arguments (that you got someplace else–was busy and didn’t have time to monitor Hannity last night) don’t hold water. This is just a diversion away from the truth of how Trump cheated to get into office and how he tried to leverage foreign aid in exchange for smearing his opponent. He has few to no legislative accomplishments. Now, he’s started another trade war with France because of his petty spat with Macron. We still don’t have Mexico’s check for the wall. He has stoked racial, political and ideological division in this country in a pathetic attempt to survive politically. He has to go. Why won’t he just resign and spare this country further embarrassment and political division? This country will need to heal internally after he’s gone, and it will take a long time before other countries trust the U.S. again, if ever.
Apparently Justin Trudeau is very busy right now trying to swallow Trump’s member. Since you are an expert FOB douche hose, it’s not too late for you to switch positions
Obama was a castrated eunuch on the global stage while Trump is pushing global leaders to action, like it or not.
“Trudeau admits he joked about Trump but insists they have ‘excellent relationship’”
“I have a very productive and positive relationship with Mr. Trump … we will continue to have an excellent relationship,” Trudeau told reporters during a briefing in London at the NATO meeting.
– Reuters
No healing internally with energy vampires like you sucking all the air out of the room.
Seriously, Natacha. You have a serious mental problem about your obsession with Hannity and Fox. I’m not kidding. It’s weird.
Democrats have stoked racial, political, and ideological hatred. Democrats are the party of hate. Your own posts are nothing more than pure hatred, insults, and false allegations, a good reflection on the state of the Democrat Party.
1. Democrats judge people’s worth based on their skin color and sexual orientation (vestiges of the Klan, perhaps)
2. Democrats insult black and female conservatives with racist and misogynistic slurs (vestiges of the Klan, perhaps)
3. Democrats try to force speech, with 75 pronouns for people who are suffering from gender dysphoria delusions
4. Democrats force women to allow men into their sports, their battered women shelters, their showers, as long as those men claim to be women. That’s all “woman” means to Democrats today, a simple decision. I am woman. Today. At this hour. But an hour later I can be something else. (See Genderbread man)
5. Democrats harass, threaten, and assault conservatives across the country for wearing pro Trump clothing
6. Democrats harass, threaten, and attack invited conservative speakers across the country
7. The general trend when discussing politics falls along the lines of anyone trying to reason with you. Me: Here are facts why I support this policy. Democrat: racist Nazi! Me: Um, that makes absolutely no sense. Here, look at my facts. What do you disagree with? Democrat: racist Xenophobe Fascist!!! It’s like they are brainwashed to repeat mad libs.
8. Conservatives are afraid of Democrats at this point (see myriad articles about how to avoid talking politics with your Democrat friends and relatives because they will viciously attack you for disagreeing with them and end your connection because they are volatile)
9. If you oppose illegal immigration, Democrats call you a Xenophobe who cages children (that was actually Obama, and chain link fences separating everyone to figure out who is a harm to children and who is not is no more caging than a schoolyard playground is)
The list goes on and on. Did you even read Professor Turley’s post about the massive wave of threats that he received for daring to disagree with Democrats? The threats against his life? Why won’t Trump resign? Because there is no evidence of wrongdoing and he was lawfully elected. Do you actually believe that Republican presidents should just immediately resign because Democrats don’t give their permission to serve?
While it is true that there are individuals in any party who are unhinged, and behave abominably, there is an undeniable trend. You may have noticed repeated articles about the harassment of conservatives at universities across the country on this blog.
However, of course you will simply ignore fact, and go with false accusations. It’s your pattern, unfortunately. You don’t even realize that you deny the partisan hate of your party that you gleefully participate in.
I think moderate Democrats must be too terrified to oppose the extremists running the party at this point. If they stood up for what’s right, they would experience what conservatives do.
#WalkAway.
I pity you-you are a textbook example of MSM bias and believing what you hear on CNN and other stations. Life must seem terribly unfair to you. I hope you get the help you need.
My reply was meant for Natacha
Does Turley Think We Should Wait..
For Subpoenas To Be Honored?
Given the short (and in my view insufficient) investigation on the current issues, it is doubtful that Green’s concept of impeaching early and often would appeal to Speaker Pelosi.
“Recreational Impeachment”
– Anonymous