Pelosi Shreds Decades Of Tradition In Demonstrating Against Trump

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This morning I have a column in the Hill newspaper on my reaction to the disgraceful conduct of Speaker Nancy Pelosi and various Democratic members at the State of the Union address last night. As I tweeted during the address, her conduct tore up more than a speech, but decades of tradition and left any semblance of civility in tatters on the House floor.

Forty-four years ago, I walked on to the floor of the House of Representatives as a new Democratic 15-year-old page from Chicago.  I stood and marveled at the beehive of activity on the floor in the People’s House. I can still remember that moment because it forged a bond and reverence that has never weakened for me.  As a Democratic leadership page during the speakership of Tip O’Neill, I watched some of the most passionate and important debates of the generation from the Neutron Bomb to civil rights legislation to sweeping national park bills.  The country was deeply divided, but both parties maintained the tradition of civility and decorum.  I was struck how members, even in the heat of furious debates, would not attack each other by name and followed rigid principles of decorum. They understood that they were the custodians of this institution and bore a duty to strengthen and pass along those traditions to the next generation.

That is why I was (and remain) so offended by this display. I believe that President Trump himself is worthy of criticism for not shaking the hand of Pelosi. I also did not approve of aspects of his speech, including bestowing the Medal of Freedom on Rush Limbaugh in the gallery like a reality show surprise scene. There was much to object to in the address, but presidents often make comments that enrage or irritate speakers.

However, none of that excuses Pelosi. At that moment, she represents the House as an institution — both Republicans and Democrats. Instead, she decided to become little more than a partisan troll from an elevated position. The protests of the Democratic members also reached a new low for the House. Pelosi did not gavel out the protest. She seemed to join it.

It was the tradition of the House that a speaker must remain in stone-faced neutrality no matter what comes off that podium. The tradition ended last night with one of the more shameful and inglorious moments of the House in its history. Rather than wait until she left the floor, she decided to demonstrate against the President as part of the State of the Union and from the Speaker’s chair. That made it a statement not of Pelosi but of the House.

For those of us who truly love the House as an institution, it was one of the lowest moments to unfold on the floor. That is why I argue in the Hill that, if Pelosi does not apologize and agree to honor the principle of neutrality and civility at the State of the Union, she should resign as speaker.

570 thoughts on “Pelosi Shreds Decades Of Tradition In Demonstrating Against Trump”

  1. Her actions clearly blatantly demonstrate her narcissistic personality disorder. Her lack of empathy for others was on full display when POTUS introduced so many fine Americans, that she wouldn’t even acknowledge them by looking up toward them.

  2. So now, we all (foreign leaders, etc) get to see what this creature who goes by the name of n. pelosi truly has become – So hyper-sensitive to criticism (of any kind) that she threatens her own party members. Free speech doesn’t exist when it comes to her. Nor most democrats.
    What a great example she provide for leadership! HA

  3. Have you ever seen a personality disorder as bad as N. Pelosi’s?
    Few and far between, and a good thing.
    She is Queen Monarch over the Dem’s elected to the House. If you ever say anything bad about her governing style, she threatens to withhold any reelection campaign funds. Even worse she will fund a same party opponent. Senator Dianne Feinstein expressed the frustration of many members in saying, “The longer it goes on, the less urgent it becomes. So if it is serious and urgent, send them over. If it is not, do not send it over.” But she and other members were quickly pressured to “correct” their earlier statements by stating the exact opposite and praising the brilliant strategy of Pelosi. It took just a few hours for Pelosi to get House Armed Services Committee Chairman Adam Smith D to say that he “misspoke” and praise her inspired strategy.

    1. Orange Troglodyte is worse and you know it

      Ill bet you laughed when he made fun of a paraplegic

  4. The founder of the Republican Party warned that “a house divided against itself, cannot stand”. Real leaders try to “unite” their fellow citizens not divide them. Trump has tried to divide American pitting one group against another group – the worst trait of any leader.

    A previous administration (from the same Party of Lincoln) had DOJ Liaison, Monica Goodling, try to purge government employees in the U.S. Department of Justice of LGBT employees and Democrats, even firing federal prosecutors. To avoid criminal prosecution, Goodling revealed this divisive purge to Congress.

    Obama, by contrast, although not perfect, tried to unite Americans. This same divisive party then attacked his Christian minister. When that didn’t work, they switched Obama’s defamatory title from “Radical Christian” to “Kenyan Witch Doctor” to “Muslim”.

    Pelosi has always been civil to her political opponents and as a staunch Christian claims she doesn’t hate anyone, but she is still human. Maybe Republicans could learn something from her?

    Democrats aren’t perfect, sometimes even tone-deaf, but they seem like they try to unite all Americans – real leaders! Not falling for the GOP spin job.

    1. There was NEVER a more “divisive” Republican leader than Abe Lincoln who sent 300,000 yankees not rich enough to evade the draft to their demise “stiff in southern dust”

      and crushed the secession in the process. That’s unification alright– “by any means necessary!”

      not to mention suspending writ of habeas corpus — that means folks, he arrested anybody he liked for any reason at all– and smashed dissident newspaper printing presses and a host of other things that never had been seen in America since the British and never have been seen since

      George is right, Lincoln was a tyrant if there ever was on in America. Arguably it was a necessity. Arguably.,

      Trump is nowhere near the supposed “Dictator” that they’re foolishly saying about him. Lincoln actually was. For a time.

          1. that’s exactly correct. and what lead to tyrants in athens?
            pandering to the ochlos, the mob. not the demos, the people, but the mob.

            same in Rome. they got emperors because the factions were tearing it all apart and they needed them

            the problem is emperors are always under threat of deposition from praetorians
            ‘and we have that now too
            only an emperor that fields a sound program that visibly and quickly helps the Republic, and gains sufficient popular support, can an emperor survive his backstabbers…… can only hope Trump will too

            1. Mr. K:

              According to Livy, middle-aged, ex-Senator Cincinnatus was plowing his field with his own hand when a hopeless group of Roman Senators came to him and begged him to take command of the Republic to end the siege of the Aequi and their Sabine allies who had encircled and isolated two Roman legions. He did it with mostly old men and teenagers. True to his pledge he resigned the seat at the end of his six month term. That’s nobility, that’s civic responsibility and that’s precisely what the Dims hate in orders of magnitude.

      1. The south commited a treasonous act….and Sherman burning it all down was a great thing

        1. Stephane:

          Yeah sure. Destroying, ransacking then burning homes and farms defended by widows and children was a “great thing.”

        2. i disagree sherman targeted a civilian population with terror. and that was a violation of just war principles that have distinguished the West since it was elaborated by Saint Augustine

          like many other terror campaigns which have been used in war, it is still being justified in retrospect in spite of necessity, not because of it

          As to treason, that is questionable. What they called the right of secession was a part of the fabric of federalism at the time…. though in retrospect the war eliminated it decisively. that’s the final court for settling all political questions, war.

          don’t be too quick to seek that venue, it might not turn out the way you hope

          as to the question of slavery, keep in mind it was a social institution that had existed back into the mists of prehistoric times… it was unjust, i would agree. but life is full of suffering and injustice and pain and ever will be. it can be ameliorated but never eliminated. the question is always one of what is feasible. and, moreover, if people think that low wage employment is necessarily so much better than slavery, in every place and time, than you may not be familiar with economic reality.

          I might add that in some places like the People’s Republic of China, they went straight from chattel slavery into slavery to the state, and that resulted in the great famine and the death of tens of millions of people. oh, but give them their due, the PRC surely did make chattel slavery illegal! and the whip passed directly into the hands of the communist party.

          now, people are often ignorant, that in other large nations in the 19th century, slavery was eliminated through laws passed by legislatures which offered compensation to former slave-owners for the manumission of slaves.. brazil for example…. that was never on the table in America. if you think the Yankee oligarchs were going to pay for with gold what they more easily paid for with blood, then you don’t fully understand what happened.

          I can accept the results of the civil war but a blind moralistic interpretation of the struggle is unrealistic and not helpful to understanding the problems of our time. but that’s how they teach it in school and the movies i guess.

          1. Mr. K:

            No, he clearly targeted the civilian population and was ruthless about it. Here’s what he wrote Gen. Halleck:

            “We are not only fighting armies, but a hostile people, and must make old and young, rich and poor, feel the hard hand of war, as well as their organized armies. I know that this recent movement of mine through Georgia has had a wonderful effect in this respect. Thousands who had been deceived by their lying papers into the belief that we were being whipped all the time, realized the truth, and have no appetite for a repetition of the same experience.”

            His general Order 120 to preserve homesteads was uniformly ignore with his knowledge. He never apologized or even entertained the thought. Under the law of the time, they were still citizens and noncombatants. it wasn’t a legal war crime as we know it today but it was a moral outrage.

        3. “Stephane Gaudette” said “burning it all down was a great thing”

          I wonder is Stephane Gaudette a Quebecois?

          I wonder if he feels the same way about the persecution of the Acadians

          or maybe he never even heard of that

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_the_Acadians

          the Crown said they were traitors too. Americans were a lot more sympathetic!
          yes now it’s all mostly forgotten since the schools here just teach a lot of garbage

    2. President Obama did more to divide this country than any other president in US History. How quickly we forget his condemnation of police officers doing their job. How quickly we forget that “Hand’s up, don’t shoot” NEVER HAPPENED.

      1. Yeah sure…giving healthcare to millions of people….what a tyrant he was

        In the words of Joe Wilson….YOU LIE!!!!

      2. Yea something about being black didn’t sit well with the rethuglicans and thus the Tea Party, the klan’s political arm.

        1. YNOT seems to have things backwards but he is a backwards guy of little intellect. Republicans were the party that wanted slaves freed while the Democrats were slave owners. Republicans pushed the Civil Rights laws. Today there is a new plantation for black Americans known as the Democratic Party where blacks have been taken for granted. Who has increased jobs and incomes among blacks? The Republicans. Who wants to give blacks more choice of schools? The Republicans. The YNOTs of this world are do nothings and worthless.

    3. AZ:

      “The founder of the Republican Party warned that “a house divided against itself, cannot stand … Democrats aren’t perfect, sometimes even tone-deaf, but they seem like they try to unite all Americans – real leaders! Not falling for the GOP spin job.”
      **********************
      The founder of the Republican Party was not Abraham Lincoln whom you allude to. He was the first elected Republican President but not the first candidate. That was John Fremont in 1856. Obviously, he lost. The Party was founded in 1854 by anti-slavery activists, free soil Democrats and ex-Whigs to oppose your imperfect, tone deaf Dims who were slavery’s staunchest proponents. You might want to learn your history lest you be accused of reaching the same flawed conclusions as your knowledge of history suggests.

    4. Ashcroft’s Zersetzung, are you getting paid $35 by the DNC to post your post? Perhaps n. polosi? Wearing the name mask you do lets you get away with posting your line of BS. But we clear thinkers all know what your all about and don’t give U the time of day. As a matter of fact, my reply to you is really dumb on my part.

    5. Pure Bull Crap! If Trump really wanted to divide the nation he would not have honored the 100 yr/old Tuskegee airman, by promoting him to General and having him at the SOTU. Like wise the young woman with her 4th grade daughter who wants to go to a magnet school. likewise the Hispanic new chief of the Border Patrol. I don’t blame Trump for not shaking her hand. He just suffered the most ridiculous impeachment effort in our country’s history. As far as respect goes, neither Pelosi or any other dimms have earned an ounce of it since 2016. Your TDS is pathetic.
      I DO agree that Trump should be less demeaning in his nick-names habit, because it is disrespectful, but President Trump has suffered withering Dimm criticism sine before he even was sworn in. At least he has the guts to stand up for American values/traditions, as he outlined and illustrated in his SOTU. Nancy’s response was demeaning to the House, paints HER as disrespectful and petty…

  5. Her actions clearly blatantly demonstrate her narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others.

  6. For all those butthurt Democrats and Leftists who do not appreciate hearing bad things about Democrats and Leftists, I wrote this poem a few years ago:

    The Echo Chambers of Yesteryear
    A Poem by Squeeky Fromm

    The Echo Chambers of Yesteryear
    Are calling to me now.
    The comforting sounds of my own voice
    To soothe my weary brow.

    Voices echoing my own thoughts
    Reverberate around.
    I lay my head upon my hands
    And listen to the sound.

    And nary one dischordant note
    Is plucked within this womb.
    No flats, no sharps, unless in key
    Are heard within this room.

    And here, my mind in safe repose
    In silken threads is twirled
    As Echo Chambers of Yesteryear
    Cocoon me from the World.

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter and Poet

    1. That’s a good poem!

      Again i find one of my favorites timely:

      The Hollow Men by T.S. Eliot

      Mistah Kurtz – he dead.

      A penny for the Old Guy

      We are the hollow men
      We are the stuffed men
      Leaning together
      Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
      Our dried voices, when
      We whisper together
      Are quiet and meaningless
      As wind in dry grass
      or rats’ feet over broken glass
      In our dry cellar

      Shape without form, shade without colour,
      Paralysed force, gesture without motion;

      Those who have crossed
      With direct eyes, to death’s other kingdom
      Remember us – if at all – not as lost
      Violent souls, but only
      As the hollow men
      The stuffed men.

      Picture

      II

      Eyes I dare not meet in dreams
      In death’s dream kingdom
      These do not appear:
      There, the eyes are
      Sunlight on a broken column
      There, is a tree swinging
      And voices are
      In the wind’s singing
      More distant and more solemn
      Than a fading star.

      Let me be no nearer
      In death’s dream kingdom
      Let me also wear
      Such deliberate disguises
      Rat’s coat, crowskin, crossed staves
      In a field
      Behaving as the wind behaves
      No nearer –

      Not that final meeting
      In the twilight kingdom

      Picture

      III

      This is the dead land
      This is cactus land
      Here the stone images
      Are raised, here they receive
      The supplication of a dead man’s hand
      Under the twinkle of a fading star.

      Is it like this
      In death’s other kingdom
      Waking alone
      At the hour when we are
      Trembling with tenderness
      Lips that would kiss
      Form prayers to broken stone.

      Picture

      IV

      The eyes are not here
      There are no eyes here
      In this valley of dying stars
      In this hollow valley
      This broken jaw of our lost kingdoms

      In this last of meeting places
      We grope together
      And avoid speech
      Gathered on this beach of this tumid river

      Sightless, unless
      The eyes reappear
      As the perpetual star
      Multifoliate rose
      Of death’s twilight kingdom
      The hope only
      Of empty men.

      Picture

      V

      Here we go round the prickly pear
      Prickly pear prickly pear
      Here we go round the prickly pear
      At five o’clock in the morning.

      Between the idea
      And the reality
      Between the motion
      And the act
      Falls the Shadow

      For Thine is the Kingdom

      Between the conception
      And the creation
      Between the emotion
      And the response
      Falls the Shadow

      Life is very long

      Between the desire
      And the spasm
      Between the potency
      And the existence
      Between the essence
      And the descent
      Falls the Shadow

      For Thine is the Kingdom

      For Thine is
      Life is
      For Thine is the

      This is the way the world ends
      This is the way the world ends
      This is the way the world ends
      Not with a bang but with a whimper

      Here, let’s here it rendered by the great Marlon Brando, may he rest in peace!

        1. I’m just a nobody anyways, but the reason why i picked this nom de plume is all right there in the poem

          for people who aren’t familiar with the stock interpretation of this poem, here is an essay that lays it out

          https://www.litcharts.com/poetry/t-s-eliot/the-hollow-men

          the line from Conrad to that poem to Apocalypse Now to right where we are today zigzags but it’s all connected

          Is Trump Kurtz? That’s what the shopkeepers with their lying timid morality think. I can just see some Generals and CIA geeks sitting around, with the likes of McCabe, contemplating how to “Terminate his command!” When Kurtz is actually the one who’s out there fighting the battle for real, yet, the shot callers can’t wait to shiv him for it!

          faced with their hypocrisy, we feel the nihilism that grips Western man at his core, in the entire post-Enlightenment era, from Napoleon right up until now….. Is it all just about money and narrow gain? What has taken the place of God, whose throne may be empty, but yet looms large above us? This is the metaphor Heidegger laid out in his essay “Nietzsche’s Word” … Heidegger pointed back to Fred, said embracing existence itself is the only thing we can do, accept the perplexing wholeness of our being and time, that or die like so many mere animals.

          Watching the movie, the heaviest thing, is what I was left thinking as Martin Sheen pokes his eyes up out of the water after the napalm strike wipes out Kurtz’ compound is — realizing that his commanders intended to execute him with the napalm strike too, once he killed Kurtz— was Kurtz right?

          sometimes i feel like a nut like Hopper in this scene

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kqFwVuQ-Hg

          but it’s in that moment that Martin Sheen pokes his eyes up that you realize, why he’s the narrator– because he’s become what Hopper predicted in the other scene in which Sheen is locked up in the bamboo cage– Sheen’s the one who would come after it was all wiped out, to tell the real story of Kurtz

          i understand, i need to go out there in the world and tell that story too. if you are a Western man, than you have all these figures inside of you. You are not a billionaire, nor a shot caller like the General or his CIA geeks– you are either a grunt like the guys in the boat, or an observer like Hopper, who perceives the insanity on all sides and can’t help being infected by it– and you also have the bitter executioner, Sheen, who barely escapes execution himself, but lives on to tell the tale.

          and that tale is wholly encompassed in that poem by TS Elliot

          that’s our Dasein!

          like the poet, I can’t resist saying the stupid things I say here every day. nobody is paying me for this, I lose money because of it! I should be selling my time instead. but this is what happens once you’ve looked into the abyss.

  7. Trump has spent his entire time ripping up tradition and decorum. The Republicans turned the State of the Union into an election rally and Trump turned it into a reality show. To come down on Pelosi just shows your bias.

    Also, can we please agree that the State of the Union address is gotten out of hand (by both parties) and we should go back to written ones, or really tone it down?

    1. “To come down on Pelosi just shows your bias.”

      Turley didn’t vote for Trump. And as far as I know, he doesn’t plan on voting for him this year. Although given Democratic behavior, he may be forced to.

  8. In my opinion, President Trump is maturing in his role. It’s really uplifting to watch.
    But as he embraces this maturity, and shows a growing, deep respect for his office, the Democrats seem to be going the other way, becoming more and more immature and disrespectful. It’s “ironical”, as they say in south Austin.

    1. Yeah sure…so mature indeed that he refused to allow witnesses or documents for the oversight

      Also he hands out a medal to a racist….but not to a Tuskagee airmen

      Next time he makes fun of a paraplegic….i guess you’ll find that funny again

      1. Stefane:

        “Yeah sure…so mature indeed that he refused to allow witnesses or documents for the oversight

        Also he hands out a medal to a racist….but not to a Tuskagee airmen

        Next time he makes fun of a paraplegic….i guess you’ll find that funny again.”
        *************************
        Trump exercised his executive authority as any student of the doctrine of separation of powers would attest; honored both a dying man with a civilian medal of freedom and a military one with a general’s star pinned on that same day which incidentally was the best he could do for each man given their service to the country; and never made fun of a paraplegic. He also didn’t call a man who isn’t a racist a “racist.”

        Truly, if it weren’t for outright provable lies, your comments would be five letters long; “I suck.” That said, in your incessant, inane statements that conclusion is always inferred with ample reason.

  9. Face it, the Democratic Party has sunk into the depths of depravity. They are no longer the Democratic Party founded by Andrew Jackson. They no longer represent “the people,” they represent themselves. As for Pelosi and Trump, remember that she tried to destroy him by cooking up a farcical impeachment based on a lie. I don’t blame Trump for refusing to shake her hand. Remember there is no law prohibiting a president from seeking help from another country in a possible criminal investigation, even if the subject is a presidential candidate. As for Trump, while I don’t have a problem with bestowing the PMF, which is a political award, I do have a problem with the spectacle of a returning soldier and the “promotion” of a long-retired Air Force colonel for political purposes. There was no reason to promote Col. McGee just to show him off.

    1. You do understand that a LOT of well known Republicans are LEAVING the party to become independants or even Democrat

      Ill bet you’re part of the uneducated squadron that Cheeto loves so much

  10. This is politics in Trump’s America. Don’t act surprised and don’t cry about breaking decorum.

  11. Professor, all due respect,but you’re a dinosaur. The self righteous indignation card got shredded in the age of Trump. There is no going back. Time to catch up.

    1. He’s a dinosaur from the age when great Americans of both our respected parties worked together to make America great

      after the Democrats soil the bed in the upcoming election, new voices of leadership will be heard to reverse the disgracefully bad leadership

        1. yeah we’ll see about that.

          I’m just hoping the Democrats get new leadership because it would be good for our country. Our bipartisan system will totally fail if they keep on sliding into increasingly radical and opportunistic stances.

          Unfortunately, I don’t actually think they will be able to break the death grip that the megapolises have on the party and the bad habit of opportunistically using the lumpen masses to riot in order to menace the rest of us. eventually if you don’t shuck that bad habit off it will eat you alive

          look to the communists of Russia. the first people who got locked up after the win were the anarchists., because they are rabid dogs, that’s why. but Bernie has enlisted them as campaign organizers! good luck with that.

          https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/01/15/sanders_field_organizer_there_are_a_lot_of_anarcho-communists_working_for_the_sanders_campaign.html

          Noam Chomsky has said that the Soviets were actually fascists in practice. He’s got a point. the point he didn’t make, was that any sane population would choose fascism over rule by the rabid dogs of anarchy.

          20th century history proved that again and again.

          Today, the Left completely misunderstands the phenomena of successful communist insurgencies. They were almost all of them nationalistic at the core. Not communist in motivation but nationalist. But what can you expect from a bunch of ivory tower Trotskyites. Like Trotsky, they loathe nationalism. Which is why Russians backed Stalin and he easily outflanked Trotsky and sent him running away.

      1. This sounds great, but I don’t see any “new voices of leadership” on the Dem’s horizon. I am in favor of the two-party system, mainly to keep one party from going extreme. But it hasn’t worked with this crop of Dem Leaders. Maybe time for a new “second” party? At least get some rational players.

        1. The midwest had a lot of fine Democrat leaders. Mayor Richard M Daley was an example of a competent Democrat mayor, overall, though he had many faults. His father Mayor Richard J Daley had faults but again was a competent leader. Wow, how the Democrats of today, particular the Trotskyites in ivory towers, have trashed his memory! They’ll never forgive him for bashing communist rabble and yippies in the head during the 68 election.

          But you can see how Democrat radicals in the big cities have sidelined them. Lori Lightfoot is a crazed lunatic compared to her predecessor Rahm Emmanuel. Not that he was all that great, but time will tell he did a lot better job than she’s doing. When Illinois declares bankruptcy– that’s coming sure enough, if they don’t tame Chicago’s teacher unions– history will show it clearly.

          I hate to say it but Bill Clinton was ten times the politician than anything they’re fielding today. Even Obama looks sane compared to this pack of Leftist hounds!

          What Democrats don’t get is WHY they have so many billionaires backing them. The billionaires are afraid of the current trajectory! That’s why they’ve put a lot of money into Mayor Pete, he seems moderate compared to these fools. And yet he’s running to the Left like all the rest, staking out crazy positions, Pandering to the lumpen mob is going to be the total death of the Democrat party if you don’t get it under control.

        2. Dude….one party already went extreme….the Republican is extreme right

          The Dems are center right.

          Don’t believe me?…Go look at the policies of Reagan and the policies of Hillary

          Even easier….You have the balls to claim the Romney and McCain are RINO’s and you voted for them for the presidency not long ago

          You are the extreme Bubba…..

          1. Socialism is not “center right”.
            Reagan probably would not have been a fan of men “marrying” men and women “marrying” women.
            The “squad” faction in Congress is not exactly pulling the Democratic Party back to a center- right
            position.

  12. You missed that Nasty Nancy insulted the President in the way she introduced him there by deserving the snub of no hand shake She broke with tradition and protocol proving how low class she and her ilk are all the time

    1. That is true, she didn’t announce him in the proper way “it is my high privilege & distinct honor to present to you the president of the United States,” is what she was supposed to say not “members of congress, the president of the United States”. He didn’t shake the Vice Presidents’ hand either.If he had that would have been different. Remember the last time her famous nasty clapping. She thinks people should play by her rules only. NOT GONNA HAPPEN!

  13. MLK Jr., Letter from a Birmingham Jail:
    “I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice …”

    The presence of justice requires honesty. Trump is a compulsive narcissistic liar, and that was on ample display last night. The presence of justice requires that bigots like Limbaugh not be awarded the National Medal of Freedom. These are just two examples of what it would mean to focus on justice rather than “order” in the context of the SOTU.

    Your choice to focus on whether Pelosi was sufficiently decorous rather than on the cause of justice is sad.

    1. Justice is more brought about by economic opportunity such as fostered by the leadership of Donald J Trump than endless government handout programs which reward indolence instead of initiative

      the POTUS has offered a helping hand by approving of bipartisan endeavors such as school choice which give the downtrodden a chance to lift themselves out of poverty through education, better choices than what’s been served up by decades of incompetent administration of public schools in big cities that have been a 100% lock for self serving Democrat functionaries

    2. So? MLK also hoped for the day when all people would be judged by the “content of their character.” We had that. You lot through it out the window and went hard on quotas of ridiculous varieties and combinations. ???? At best, you are the champions of the situational ethic, or by less generous term, “whatever I can get away with at the given moment.” Don’t listen to me, you are doing a great job of destroying yourselves, so do carry on.

  14. Prof Turley, I don’t get your continual disparagement of Democrats as compared to your only occasional tsking at President Trump. Not that some of your criticisms of Democrats are unwarranted. But, in my view, Trump’s daily misconduct calls for far greater objections than you have voiced.

    1. Let me rephrase that for you:

      “Please Prof. Turley, can you confirm my biases more often??? Because it makes me uncomfortable when smart people like you do not agree with the things I believe. It makes me have a bad case of cognitive dissonance, and I tend to hit the bottle when the pain is too much. Then I wake up with a headache, and lost time. So please, can you just echo my beliefs back to me??? Pretty pleeeeease???”

      You are welcome.

      Squeeky Fromm
      Girl Reporter

      1. “Squeeky” – Back again with the ad hominems.

        Squeeky – Assuming that you are not the Charles Manson-crazed woman, Lynette Squeeky Fromme, who was convicted of attempting to kill President Ford, why in the world have you assumed the name of that villain?

        And why do you want to be seen to be a “Girl.” My search reveals that you are well over 30 years old. It’s time to grow up.

      2. “Please Prof. Turley, can you confirm my biases more often???

        Three or four leftoids have had just about the same outburst on this thread. (Gainesville, of course, being one).

  15. Maybe if Pelosi swings naked on a strippers pole something like their super last weekend the American people would then like here?

    Give us a warning 1st, I’ll need to shield my eyes.

    Seriously, as a Trump supporters we all need to support Pelosi, Shitf, Nader, AOC, etc. as they are going great works for us. Just keep them talking.

      1. Thanks Cindy.

        I’ve noticed the more I’m laughing at what I’m posting the more I need to re-read it checking for typos, but the point seems to have came through.

        We love Pelosi, Shciff, Nader, AOC, etc.

        And if enough people give money to AOC she could possible defeat Chuck Schumer & be the new Minority Leader.

        I can dream can’t I? lol

    1. i would take a look. she’s got a great figure for a lady her age, and a charming face when it’s now torn into a scowl or displaying a false mask, the usual disingenuous grin that they fake for the cameras

      it’s too bad her decorum doesn’t match her good looks

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