President Donald Trump had another embarrassing tweet debacle today. Trump sought to highlight the recently disclosed remarks by Michael Bloomberg on the stop-and-frisk policy. Trump tweeted out “WOW, BLOOMBERG IS A TOTAL RACIST.” The problem is that in 2016 Trump supported that policy. The tweet was suddenly taken down but not before journalists like Abby Phillip took a screenshot. The issue could loom large in both the primary and general election. There are however a couple of points that could be used by both candidates in addressing criticism, though Bloomberg has already renounced his prior statements and policy.
The Bloomberg campaign reportedly tried to pressure the Aspen not to release the tap. That effort to bury the recording failed and the tape shows Bloomberg saying:
“Ninety-five percent of murders- murderers and murder victims fit one M.O. You can just take a description, Xerox it, and pass it out to all the cops . . . They are male, minorities, 16-25. That’s true in New York, that’s true in virtually every city (inaudible). And that’s where the real crime is. You’ve got to get the guns out of the hands of people that are getting killed.
. . .
“So one of the unintended consequences is people say, ‘Oh my God, you are arresting kids for marijuana that are all minorities.’ Yes, that’s true. Why? Because we put all the cops in minority neighborhoods. Yes, that’s true. Why do we do it? Because that’s where all the crime is. And the way you get the guns out of the kids’ hands is to throw them up against the wall and frisk them… And then they start… ‘Oh I don’t want to get caught.’ So they don’t bring the gun. They still have a gun, but they leave it at home.”
Trump is fighting to peel away a fraction of the African American vote and pounced without thinking:
That triggered critics to note that the “racist” policy was supported by Trump.
There’s just one little problem with this…
Donald J. Trump in 2016: “I would do stop-and-frisk. I think you have to. We did it in New York, it worked incredibly well and you have to be proactive and, you know, you really help people sort of change their mind automatically,” https://twitter.com/timmurtaugh/status/1227231557057949696 …
The hair-trigger tweets are continuing to undermine Trump. While other Democrats like Bernie Sanders could use this to wedge African-American voters away from Bloomberg, the issue may have less success in a Trump v. Bloomberg race. On the other hand, it creates an equivalency with Trump when Trump is not trying to win the African-American vote but simply peel off enough to win. Yet, Trump will also have to decide if he wants to oppose the policy given the support of some law enforcement advocates and his own clear support in interviews in 2016. Yet, other Republicans like Lindsey Graham have called it “pretty offensive.”
The New York stop-and-frisk policy was found unconstitutional before Trump gave his full-throated endorsement of the policy. Indeed, in an exchange with Lester Holt, Trump noted that the district court judge had been removed from a related case and that New York would have ultimately won the case if Mayor De Blasio did not abandon the litigation: “No, you’re wrong,” Trump responded. “It went before a judge, who was a very against-police judge. It was taken away from her. And our mayor, our new mayor, refused to go forward with the case. They would have won an appeal. If you look at it, throughout the country, there are many places where it’s allowed.”
Bloomberg however tried repeatedly to set aside such decisions and reinstate the policy.
There is a couple of nuanced points here that may work in Trump’s favor. First and foremost, stop and frisks are not unconstitutional per se. In Terry vs. Ohio, the Supreme Court ruled that an office could legally stop a person if the officer has reasonable suspicion of criminal activity. The Court said a frisk could occur if there was reasonable suspicion that the person was armed or presented a risk to the officer. The issue therefore in the U.S. District Court in Manhattan, Floyd vs. City of New York, was how New York was using this power. Thus, the issue was whether this constitutional practice was being implemented in an unconstitutional way. In her opinion, Judge Shira Scheindlin said that it was being done unconstitutionally, noting “[b]oth statistical and anecdotal evidence showed that minorities are indeed treated differently than whites.”
Bloomberg changed his party to republican in 2001.
Bloomberg changes “stop-and-frisk” and admitted that he “…was wrong.”
Bloomberg doesn’t know which party he’s in but he knows he’s wrong and is apologetic for his egregious mistakes and failures.
Anybody got a Big Gulp?
At 5′ 8″ and 150 lbs, it’s the Napoleon Complex personified.
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In 2001, the incumbent mayor of New York City, Rudy Giuliani, was ineligible for re-election, as the city limited the mayoralty to two consecutive terms. Several well-known New York City politicians aspired to succeed him. Bloomberg, a lifelong member of the Democratic Party, decided to run for mayor as a member of the Republican Party ticket.
– Wiki
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‘I Was Wrong,’ Bloomberg Says. But This Policy Still Haunts Him.
After defending the stop-and-frisk policing tactic, the former mayor apologized. But black voters in the Democratic presidential race may not forgive him.
Bloomberg is 5 feet 6 inches — tops. See this article from Reason and be sure to view the embedded film:
https://reason.com/2018/10/11/michael-bloomberg-is-no-defender-of-the/?itm_source=parsely-api
My apologies. I stand corrected. Napoleon, then, was 1″ taller than Bloomberg not 1″ shorter.
Which, this reminds me of that Great Epic Poem by Charlie Tanz. I truly wish I had thought of that title because I could have done sooo much with it. But anyway,
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He’ll Never Row His Boat To Shore!
The Saga of Michael Brown
There was a store in Ferguson town
With grocery goods and meats.
And in one day strolled Michael Brown,
Who stole some Swisher Sweets.
To mix tobacco with some pot
Is what he meant to do.
Though smoking certainly is not
A healthy thing to do.
Abetted in this robbery
By his friend D. Johnson,
Who then would tell a great big lie
As soon as it was done.
And thus began the fatal chain
All across the nation.
Just like those things that happen in
Final Destination.
The post-death autopsy, it found
Michael weighed three hundred,.
And he would throw his weight around.
Getting what he wanted.
Meanwhile an innocent white cop
Was out there on patrol,
When he made a 10-20 stop,
On Michael on a stroll.
Officer Wilson was his name
Just 26 years old.
A man with no real claim to fame,
Who did what he was told.
He requested that Michael halt,
And step out of the road.
What happened next was Michel’s fault
As to the car he strode!
Reaching through the window with
His gentle giant paw.
Brown punched Wilson in the head
Before he even saw!
Then Brown then tried to steal his gun
To shoot Poor Wilson dead.
But even though Wilson was stunned,
This brave man kept his head!
Michael Brown was so much bigger
Still Wilson kept his gun,
And though dazed, he pulled the trigger.
This was shot number one.
Brown then backed away and ran,
But then turned back around,
Then madly charged the policeman
So Wilson shot him down.
Wilson plugged him six more times!
And only then Brown stopped.
Was he high, or was it his crimes?
Or Suicide by Cop?
Brown lay there in the blood and gore,
As people gathered round.
He’ll never row his boat to shore.
He will not make a sound.
Meanwhile Johnson lied that Wilson
Shot Brown down like a brute,
While Brown kneeled, his hands to the sun
And begging, “Please don’t shoot!”
Johnson’s lies got spread all around
And caused an angry mob.
Poor Wilson got run out of town,
Just for doing his job.
Then, a grand jury heard the case,
With all the evidence.
Finding Johnson was way off base
And Wilson’s innocence.
But still the lie was spread around
There wasn’t justice yet.
Criminal blacks burned down the town,
Lest we forget! Lest we forget!
This is a saga about the recent events in Ferguson. I believe I have a unique perspective, because I am an assistant manager at a convenience store, and there are all kinds of mean people who come in and dare you to stop them from stealing things.
https://charlestanz.wordpress.com/2014/12/01/225/
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Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
*You know, I may just plagiarize the title and do a good poem on it.
I think Bloomberg was right on that point, but he is being forced to pretend that YOCs (Yutes of Color) are wonderful people, and not a bunch of hoods and thugs. More of the Trayvon Martin effect.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Trump calls Bloomberg a racist for a policy that Trump supported/supports. So Trump is self identifying as a racist. I get it.
lol
Our tweeter-in-chief:
“Trump hits uncharted Twitter territory while reacting to his impeachment trial”
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-is-trump-unleashed-these-charts-show-that-the-president-is-tweeting-and-speaking-more-than-ever-2019-09-23
“Trump sent 797 tweets in September, or more than 26 per day on average, including retweets, which added up to a little more than 11,000 tweets since he took the White House.”
NyPD acted on tips from the street. Tell me, as a white male, why when I go through TSA at the airport they are not engaging in “stop and frisk”? Everyone complies for the greater good. Residents of NY want safe neighborhoods too.
NY Times, CNN, Washington Post, etc are not covering this headline but their foe who eats their lunch, and the number 1 news organization in the USA, Fox News, is.
Why would the liberals care about this news item since they continually remind Americans that Fox News is a dumpster fire news outlet?
maybe because Americans ignore NY Times, CNN, Washington Post?
bwahahahahaahahaha
https://www.wrcbtv.com/story/41632396/tn-legislator-introduces-resolution-condemning-cnn-washington-post-as-fake-news
“TN legislator introduces resolution condemning CNN, Washington Post as ‘fake news'”
HJR 0779 seeks to recognize CNN and The Washington Post as ‘fake news.’
Missing the Point?
The “racist” part was in the word “minority” that Bloomberg used repeatedly
Michael Bloomberg’s Centrism Combines the Worst Instincts of the Right and Left
https://reason.com/2019/11/08/michael-bloombergs-centrism-combines-the-worst-instincts-of-the-right-and-left/
On a similar note:
New York Cops Protest Pantaleo’s Firing by Hassling Fewer People. Crime Is Still Going Down.
The police union’s attempt to punish the city for dismissing Daniel Pantaleo is instead showing the problem of overpolicing,
https://reason.com/2019/09/04/new-york-cops-protest-pantaleos-firing-by-hassling-fewer-people-crime-is-still-going-down/
So Trump got caught being a hypocrite, again, and Turley tries to defend him, again, trying to draw a distinction between stop and frisk being unconstitutional per se or as applied when minorities are unfairly targeted. We all know how Trump meant it. He’s not into nuances. Yawn. Another Tuesday
Word.
It is statistically indisputable that African Americans commit a disproportionate number of crimes. It is also no coincidence that single motherhood exceeds 75% in many African American neighborhoods. These are not the middle class kids out there committing crimes and dropping out of school. It’s not genetics. Take any community and create a system that incentivizes out of wedlock births, absentee fathers, and single motherhood and that community would be similarly decimated. Destroy the nuclear family and destroy the culture.
As for Trump’s deleted Tweet, I don’t know if he was applying Democrat logic to a Democrat or if he was serious. Thou shall not weaponize words like racist for political purposes.
Profiling takes into consideration statistical risk factors. One would not stop and frisk the Baptist church choir black members just getting out of practice, walking down the street singing a cappella. One would stop and frisk known gang members loitering on a street corner known for drug deals. Since gangs are often racial, if you are looking for an MS-13 member you will have a different profile than if you are looking for the Crips or the Bloods. I do not know if stop and frisk meets the requirements of the 4th and 14th amendment. All of our laws must follow the Constitution. I do know that it is common sense to put together risk factors.
Let’s say that in a white majority neighborhood, there has been an outbreak of OD deaths of teenagers on opioids. The rich white kids have gotten into drugs. There’s this one white teenager who is a known drug dealer. He starts hanging out in front of the 7-Eleven all day. There starts to be a whole bunch of kids coming and going, only staying 5 minutes, and most of them not going inside. The store owner gets suspicious. He’s known families who have lost kids to OD. The neighborhood is going downhill. Then he sees his own daughter talking to that kid. Would a reasonable person find this situation dangerous to his daughter? Would he want this activity broken up? And is this behavior pattern sufficient to justify a stop and frisk to try to get the bad actors off the street? Since the Latino kids were not implicated in this crime ring, wouldn’t a group of Latino kids playing soccer in the field across the street from the 7-Eleven not garner the same kind of suspicion as the known drug dealing white kid and that revolving group of teenagers loitering?
Every community has its own patterns of behavior, and risk factors. As our country has learned to its sorrow, no community is safe from the drug epidemic. Depending on what crime you are chasing down, you run down the risk factors to profile possible suspects. Of course, race is sometimes relevant, as in particular gangs. Of course race should never be the only factor, see the above example of the church choir.
Every law abiding citizen should have a safe neighborhood to live and work in. Every child should have a safe journey to school, and a safe place to play. It doesn’t matter what color they are.
Trump is pure id. Can’t keep the checkbook away from Trump Water. Trump Steaks.
Can’t keep the fingers off the phone to send that Tweet that makes perfect sense in his own head but blows the hell up in his face on Twitter.
Truth is, NYPD is part intelligence agency, part police force. There are limited number of ways to ‘restrain an area’ all security force style. Detailed intelligence on the goings on. Leaning on the citizenry to restrain weaponry. Forcibly moving the occupants away.
And while there are some spectacular cops at NYPD, there are also a fair number of juiced up, raging guys from Queens on it too. Turning them loose on neighborhoods they regard as problematic had some predictable results.
Most interesting aspect to me is why those neighborhoods were targeted in the “War on Terror/Drugs/Things that scare the hell out of us” rather than on sick white boys actively planning mass shootings.
Elvis, a legitimate question with a legitimate answer
active shooting incidents are overly publicized tragedies. in 2018 they accounted for 87 fatalities
https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/active-shooter-incidents-in-the-us-2018-041019.pdf/view
in 2015 by contrast, there were about 2,400 blacks killed by other blacks
just a wee bit more number of whites killed by whites, but if you consider the relative proportions of the overall national population, and concentrations of certain demographics into urban enclaves, then, perhaps it can explain the law enforcement strategies which are in question
Also, the notion that mass shootings are committed exclusively, or even disproportionately, by whites, is wrong. the relative breakdown is pretty close to reflective of national population
https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/
The misconception is not accidental. mass media over the past few years systematically downplays the race of non-white violence. the trend started in the big cities and now it’s common for smaller newspapers to routinely omit racial data for non-white violent offenders. there are euphemisms that we can all understand now, like “urban youths” which almost always means, young black male offenders, the kind that Bill Clinton called “super predators” decades ago
Kurtz, poor black communities deserve to be protected just like rich white communities or rich multiracial communities.
To make things look equal we could pull more policemen out of the poor black communities and place them in the rich white communities. The homicide rate in the rich white communities likely won’t see much of a change but we will likely see more black kids killed in the street.
What is the objective of placing police where they are needed? To make those areas more peaceful and to permit the peaceloving people to spend more time striving to benefit their lives. I can’t figure out the objective of removing police and putting them in rich white areas except if that helping hand is used as a talking point by some awful people that don’t care about dead children.
True. Gun violence is gun violence is gun violence. Or better yet, violence is violence is violence. And I think we all know the remedies available that are obviously not happening. Just on a public relations basis alone, sometime, somewhere, rousting potential shooters will have an uptick. Probably already has…, after Dayton and El Paso there was a relative flood of potential shooters profiled and their arrest made public. Tide’s changing a bit, perhaps?
Can’t keep the fingers off the phone to send that Tweet that makes perfect sense in his own head but blows the hell up in his face on Twitter.
It is a gift to Americans that lefties like you think this, so we thank you for that
Meanwhile Americans hate the MSM more and more, the people are rejecting their DNC elitist nomination picks and life is grand
“The hair-trigger tweets are continuing to undermine Trump. While other Democrats like Bernie Sanders could use this to wedge African-American voters away from Bloomberg, the issue may have less success in a Trump v. Bloomberg race. On the other hand, it creates an equivalency with Trump when Trump is not trying to win the African-American vote but simply peel off enough to win.”
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Here’s a little something I wrote on the blog about six-years ago and it’s as true today as it was then:
𝘐𝘵’𝘴 𝘢 𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦-𝘵𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘧𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘈𝘮𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘗𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘪𝘤𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘫𝘶𝘥𝘨𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘺 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘥𝘰 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘱𝘦𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘩𝘰𝘸 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘥𝘰 𝘪𝘵. 𝘓𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘰𝘭𝘯 𝘪𝘴 𝘳𝘦𝘮𝘦𝘮𝘣𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘥 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘤𝘪𝘰𝘶𝘴𝘯𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘶𝘣𝘭𝘪𝘤 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘦𝘯𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘊𝘪𝘷𝘪𝘭 𝘞𝘢𝘳 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘴𝘶𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘯𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘩𝘢𝘣𝘦𝘢𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘳𝘱𝘶𝘴. 𝘍𝘋𝘙 𝘪𝘴 𝘭𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘪𝘻𝘦𝘥 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘕𝘦𝘸 𝘋𝘦𝘢𝘭 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱 𝘢𝘨𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘴𝘵 𝘧𝘢𝘴𝘤𝘪𝘴𝘮 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘳𝘵-𝘱𝘢𝘤𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘯. 𝘈𝘯𝘥 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘯 𝘰𝘭’ 𝘶𝘯𝘱𝘰𝘱𝘶𝘭𝘢𝘳 ‘𝘞” 𝘩𝘪𝘮𝘴𝘦𝘭𝘧 𝘩𝘢𝘴 𝘳𝘦𝘤𝘦𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘥 𝘢 𝘱𝘰𝘱𝘶𝘭𝘢𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘢𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘴 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘦𝘧𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘣𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘮 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘥𝘭𝘺 𝘢 𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘥𝘶𝘣𝘪𝘰𝘶𝘴 𝘮𝘦𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘥𝘴 𝘩𝘦 𝘦𝘮𝘱𝘭𝘰𝘺𝘦𝘥. 𝘞𝘩𝘺 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘶𝘣𝘭𝘪𝘤 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘭𝘢𝘴𝘵 𝘵𝘸𝘰 𝘦𝘭𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 𝘣𝘦 𝘭𝘰𝘰𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘢𝘯𝘺𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘥𝘪𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵? 𝘎𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘶𝘴 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘸𝘩𝘰 𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘣𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘱𝘰𝘴𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘦 𝘪𝘯 𝘞𝘢𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘵𝘰𝘯 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘰𝘤𝘪𝘦𝘵𝘺 𝘪𝘵 𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘦𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘰𝘳𝘥𝘦𝘳 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘰𝘱𝘶𝘭𝘢𝘤𝘦.
https://jonathanturley.org/2014/07/06/the-boehner-manifesto-how-to-do-nothing-and-look-constitutional/
mespo! Thank you for posting that esp., for us newbies. A great post!
You’d make an excellent law professor……..in fact, you really are a law professor, freelance!
Cindy:
I don’t do tweed or the penny loafers.
Mes😁
mespo…….on further reflection,……Since you are your own boss, how about creating your own fashion line called………..
Boss Tweeds!? 🤓 or…. Legal Duds for Legal Dudes……?
Hahaha 😂
What is best in life, it was asked?
video unavailable, but I’ll give the text:
“to crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women”
I would add that these words did not come from Robert E Howard the creator of Conan, nor from the brilliant John Milius, the writer of that screenplay (and also Apocalypse Now)… they came from Temujin, the Great Khan, the Khaqan, the Emperor of the Mongol Empire, Chinggis/ Ghengis Khan, slayer of nations and the most fearsome murderer in all human history
the Mongols: they slew their vanquished foes because they were moving too fast to take slaves. think about that one. but he left his demographic mark as well:
https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/1-in-200-men-direct-descendants-of-genghis-khan
Interesting!
Didn’t know that, though I had heard 1 out of 7 people in the world had the Genes of Ghengis Khan.
It’s apparent Khan was very serious about the delamentation of his enemies women.
My mind caught that piece decades back because I always thought this “Civility”, this civilization crap would blow over, humans would completely destroy our/themselves or we would revert back towards old forms of barbarism & animalistic behaviour..
Mr K,
Your are correct about the text.
All these decades I’ve been & the word was delamentation.
But I knew I had a hearing problem for it seems like forever.
Like all the old songs & sometimes I’m amazed the song meant something totally different then I thought.
ha ha that was just Arnold’s Austrian accent
things are more sneaky nowadays
Mr K a ? if you can.
I seen a few weeks back Colorado legalized magic mushrooms. They already have legalized Cannabis.
Another report, the I recall, 65-70 of Americans are on some sort of prescription drug.
How in the heck are the insurance co’s & law enforcement dealing with these issues?
Looks to me it’d be hard for them to get insur.
I am against the full-blown legalization of weed/mushrooms.
If you have cancer, fine….go smoke, you might not be here very soon.
If you are a child with a medical condition, fine….go smoke, helps numbs the pain.
But everyone does not have crippling anxiety and in need of the weed (that is just ridiculous).
Not to mention, this isn’t the weed your parents or grandparents smoked….this is some high level potency…..and the gov’t. has their hand in the cookie jar on it too. Who knows what “extra” chemicals they are putting into it. No regulations.
But for some reason, the gov’t is now okay with everyone smoking….LOL, want to turn ppl into a bunch of mind controllable zombies, with mood regulation problems.
I would argue the weed is not curing the stress, but in fact, inducing the stress….it doesn’t make anxiety better, it makes it worse, its just a flip.
And I don’t smoke, but I know ppl that do, a lot of ppl, cause it’s legal here….hate the smell of it….
Going to “drop-kick” that “smoking jacket” off the balcony edge down into the planters and bushes….
I’m against criminalization, but something about how it’s rolling out doesn’t pass the smell test.
It’s still illegal at the Fed level thus I/m thinking one might be risky all their civil Rights & maybe even doing time.
But I’m looking at the traffic zipping around these expressways in the Tulsa area & wondering
… How many illegals, no insur, then all the MJ & big pharma pills.
I’m starting to think the rural areas are looking safer?
I am against criminalization as well.
We do not need the prison system clogged up with minor offenders…agree with you on the “smell” test for sure….
I tell those that I know who smoke all-the-time that it is still illegal on the Fed level. But try getting folks to listen to you, that is a whole other bucket.
The neighborhood is full of Weed stores now, every other corner….and I am very serious about this….so many weed shops. I guess the demand is there for the supply, b/c no one is closing up shop….
So many ppl smoke in California, at all levels of society, and economic levels….and they all “claim” they can’t cope, and they have anxiety issues….
Why do so many ppl have anxiety issues today? I can’t honestly say that the anxiety pills are any better.
The Benzo-class of drugs is addictive, and habit-forming. Even rappers, rap about it, in their songs….
So, what’s better, someone on a Benzo, or someone on weed, driving around in a vehicle? I would say neither….but that is not a solution…
Self-driving cars?
And just by the numbers, rural areas are safer, overall….
And of course, we have a lot of folks, driving without car insurance here too, at some point in time, car insurance wasn’t required….I wasn’t alive for that time period, but it is required and mandatory now…for obvious policy reasons….
And I have been in a fender bender with someone who did not have car insurance, and it was not a fun situation….I will say that much….
Yes, I’m ok with people /kids using different cannabis products if they have cancers , seizures, etc.
And as odd as it may sound it may help people get of harsher drugs/big pharma drugs/alcohol etc.
There was a study on cannabis out of Israel 5 or 6 years that it’s results sounded mostly correct.
That people react to it differently the others. Some can’t stand it, others like.
I’m interested in seeing the real stats as they come out.
It is concerning the different strength levels.
But most have manage different strengths of alcohol. Some fail.
Another point was it took a Constitutional Amendment to take way the Right to buy booze & then another Amendment to restore the Right.
I would think the same with about every drug, 1st, 2nd Amd, etc… if govt wishes to attempt to do something different.
BTW: I’ve heard eat able cannabis is being sold. You might suggest try some of that so the don’t smell like a brushfire?
Of the many things I think could be causing so many people to have anxiety could be the ingestion of metals/Chems like Mercury, Lead, Aluminium, Sodium Fluoride, etc.
So our bodies work because of cells that run off Chem & Electrical reactions.
For example, if one hooks up the jumper cables wrong on the car battery the sparks fly & it’s shorting out the electric system.
When those human cells come into connect with lead, mercury, aluminium cells short out & as with radioactive particles those metal can keep bouncing around cell to cell short.
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And of course, we have a lot of folks, driving without car insurance here too, at some point in time, car insurance wasn’t required….I wasn’t alive for that time period, but it is required and mandatory now…for obvious policy reasons….”
I remember before Okla & some other states around here made insur mandatory. Early 70’s
The good ole days back then with lead in the gasoline & coloured smog we could see.
Now they’ve takening the lead & most of the SO2 so there’s still smog, it’s just clearer smog. lol;)
The cost of insur was less then half as much & more people could afford it if they wished.
The states & the insur Co’s promised, pass mandatory insur & the price will drop,
it didn’t, it shot straight up, as did lawsuits etc.
Others here likely know more then I on the insur issue.
We should ask the upper echelons of society what their favorite drug of choice is….the “elites” so-to-speak.
The one that Mrs. Robinson is hiding in her cabinet….
I think with most of those recreational use of drugs is just burning tomorrows fuel today.
What I find amazing is that Trumps older then I, takes no drugs like the drug booze.
And look at all the damn energy he has with the clarity of mind. Even if some don’t understand what he’s talking about or trying to do so.
So we call all see if a body is working correctly it’ll produce it’s own type drug.
I like it.
I know what your getting at about Miss Robinson.
Infowar.com/store Jones has some herbal stuff his team put together put together.
Among other products, Super Male Vitality & Super Female Vitality. The reviews are very good for both & the Super Female Vitality is said to make their special lady friend horner then the devil in a thorn bush.
If one wishes to make their special lady friend extra horny there’s this stuff called Cash & Gold.
LOL
i dont know about insurance but I’ll say this much
the whole “Legal cannabis” industry is engaged in a massive RICO wire fraud, using banks without telling them what they’re up to, is illegal under federal law
this is a bad situation for us all., federal laws must be taken seriously., wire fraud can’t be the order of the day for legal businesses. they need to amend the federal laws to handle the reality of legal cannabis trade at state level.
I refuse to take on any dispensary work. I have talked a lot to lawyers that are taking the business and it’s keeping them up at nights, worrying how to make the fees without getting theoretically tainted by the illegal money too. the short answer is, how broad and vague RICO laws are, and money laundering statutes, you can’t!
That was 2016. Even first graders are allowed to change when they get to fourth grade and that goes double for former Democrats.
With all due respect, Professor, I don’t see how this faux drama is a “tweet debacle”. Personally, it sounded like Pres. Trump was trying to be funny….and was mocking the “he’s a racist” mantra usually hurled at him.
So why immediately delete it? Who thinks that El Presidente is ever funny? Ridiculous, true.
Why delete it? Because no one got the joke…..why else?
So you are saying that all El Presidente’s many adherents are not smart enough to get his “joke.”
RDKAY:
Well, I think you’re funny. So there’s no accounting for taste.
Tweety Bird has an itchy trigger finger. Frequently, when you shot from the hip, the wound is self-inflicted. Maybe Trump will say that his Twitter account was hacked by the wicked Ukrainians. Surely, El Presidente would never contradict himself.
RDKAY…………….It’s adorable the way you actually believe people give a flying fig about Trump’s clumsiness on Twitter and his social klutzyness, in general.
Voters want a real person, flaws and all, who will stand up to ridiculous, shallow PC demands from people who hate the simplicity of basic goodness in America.
You and the Dems’ imagined Emily Post clause in Article II is getting old.
Cindy
Trump purposely posted the tweet then deleted for the effect it would have and has had . Trump is using the social media sites to his advantage. He did not make a mistake in deleting it nor is he being clumsy. He is using Twitter just like everyone else does: for theater.
Kudos to Trump for once again commanding the news headlines as he and Mitch McConnell push through the US Senate conservative judges. The liberal media and Dems are gullible rubes
‘Anonymous says:February 11, 2020 at 1:12 PM
“The liberal media and Dems are gullible rubes”‘
…as are many of the repugs — repugs like anon @ 1:12
make that Repugs with a capital “R”
Some of them hang out here.
Anonymous……I really don’t agree about his manipulation of the tweet. When it comes to his tweets, I really think they’re written impulsively, and from the heart. If he deletes, it means he has changed his mind, IMO.
I also think he’s a frustrated stand-up comic and tries to be funny at times. Although his delivery and subject matter usually do not meet the requirement for “funny”, Trump perseveres!
For you, the more flawed, the better
The Bloomberg Campaign carefully scrubbed the internet of his many non-PC views and tried unsuccessfully to persuade the Aspen Institute to remove some of his even more candid remarks. His views about the hoi polloi at Davos meetings are very revealing.
“Stop and frisk” was originally known as “stop, question, frisk” when Giuliani was mayor. It changed under Bloomberg who was very aggressive and unforgiving according to NYPD.
As a female in the financial services industry, Bloomberg is also vulnerable as a leading MCP (male chauvinist pig). Why won’t he release the scores of women from their NDAs for the documented misbehavior that took place at his company?
out of all Mayor Mike’s stupid policies, stop and frisk was the least stupid
Unconstitutional, yes, but effective. when targeted at those very neighborhoods he’s being called a racist for policing
like it better now New Yorkers? Every day a new sensational mugging there. Today four or five black “urban youths” from Queens including one caught on video with a stick, beat some poor guy take his phone and earpods
facts of crime are not “Racist” — denying them is maybe short term “smart” in the PC sense,
but long term harmful for society which misunderstands the concentration of violence in certain demographics
i’m sure you’re correct that the Dems will be quite delighted use it against Trump. Never-mind that Hillary and Bill started the private prison system while rounding up poor black kids in urban areas to fill these prison. The 3 Strikes enforcement. Private prison stock a very hot stock on Wall Street. May still be. The Dems don’t care what you do, as long as you’re a Dem, and especially if you’re Bill Clinton.
Aside from Trump’s Twitter problems, I’m thinking that healthcare may become the biggest issue by November. So many Americans are, and have been, suffering financially and health-wise due to our corrupt, terrible healthcare system. Now that would be a real feat, IF Trump could introduce a GREAT healthcare plan. The Dems have campaigned on it for decades without doing anything. “Access to affordable healthcare” is a standard campaign slogan for the Dems. I’m a recovering Dem. There hasn’t been an FDR since FDR. Just phony promises.
I’m not going to run Clinton down for locking up “super predators.” He had a point there.
The words “racist” and “racism” are misused. Anyone with any knowledge of the English language knows to add “ist” to a word means a practitioner, as in dentist, Baptist, Methodist, communist” etc. while “ism” means a practice or belief – “communism, Presbyterianism, Mormonism, legalism” etc. Therefore, a racist is someone like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton while racism would describe Black Lives Matter, the SCLC and the NAACP, which are based solely in race.
Sticking men, women and children in cages is racist.
Mr Anarchist:
We call those jails and they are part of every civilized society
Anarchists misunderstand law and order. This is why even Stalin purged the anarchists from the Soviet ranks. Law and order is not possible without jails. Anarchism is purely the fancy of ivory tower intellectuals, and the style of lumpen hordes desiring to run amuck.
But they have a berth for you in the Bernie Campaign, maybe you will enjoy!
Finally someone who is honest, has brains and recall Obama as the disgraceful racist that is and always will be a racist. Plus Michelle looks like an gorilla dressed in million dollar outfits too
bwahahahahaaha
Your liberals are freaking out because your own party is a dumpster fire ablaze. It breaks our hearts to see you look so despondent and pitiful
bwahahahaahahahaa
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“Obama’s ICE Chief: Illegal immigrant ‘cages’ were built by the Obama Administration”
An Obama Administration official said this week that former President Obama directed the migrant detention cages that President Trump has been blamed for.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) director Thomas Homan said at an immigration conference on Wednesday that Obama ordered the construction of the facility with the so-called “cages,” the Washington Examiner reported.
“I’ve been to that facility, where they talk about cages. That facility was built under President Obama under (Homeland Security) Secretary Jeh Johnson. I was there because I was there when it was built,” Homan said.
Homan made the remarks at a Center for Immigration Studies conference. He referenced a Democratic chairman who asked a Trump Administration official if they were “still keeping kids in cages.”
“I would answer the question, ‘The kids are being housed in the same facility built under the Obama administration.’ If you want to call them cages, call them cages. But if the left wants to call them cages and the Democrats want to call them cages then they have to accept the fact that they were built and funded in FY 2015,” Homan remarked.
According to Homan, the migrant detention centers don’t include “cages” at all, but rather chain link fencing as a divider to keep children from unrelated adults as a measure of safety.
The “cages” were never intended to hold children in the first place, Homan explained. They were intended only as holding facilities
“People talk about deaths in ICE custody. The city of New York has eight times the number of deaths in custody than ICE does. ICE’s rate is lower than nearly every penal system in this country. The problem is that when people come into ICE custody, many are in bad shape,” Homan pointed out at the conference.
Center for Immigration Studies
@CIS_org
· Jun 26, 2019
Replying to @CIS_org
“Nothing happens on the northern border of Mexico without the blessing of the cartels. For aliens to be smuggled through, they have to pay them off. What’s happening at our southern border is making these cartels very rich. We’re bankrolling them.” -Tom Homan#BorderCrisisPanel
Center for Immigration Studies
@CIS_org
“People talk about deaths in ICE custody. The city of New York has eight times the number of deaths in custody than ICE does. ICE’s rate is lower than nearly every penal system in this country. The problem is that when people come into ICE custody, many are in bad shape.” -Homan
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Homan also referred to the House humanitarian aid bill, calling it “extortion” due to its cuts on border enforcement.
“The people in Congress complaining about the conditions of people in custody are the very same people who are not giving the funding to make those facilities better. What have they done to address the crisis at all? What has Congress done?” Homan said at the conference.
Center for Immigration Studies
@CIS_org
· Jun 26, 2019
Replying to @CIS_org
“People talk about deaths in ICE custody. The city of New York has eight times the number of deaths in custody than ICE does. ICE’s rate is lower than nearly every penal system in this country. The problem is that when people come into ICE custody, many are in bad shape.” -Homan
Center for Immigration Studies
@CIS_org
“The people in Congress complaining about the conditions of people in custody are the very same people who are not giving the funding to make those facilities better. What have they done to address the crisis at all? What has Congress done?” -Tom Homan#BorderCrisisPanel
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Before serving as director of ICE upon his appointment in 2017, Homan had filled the position in an acting capacity, and was previously executive director since 2013. Before his time at ICE, he worked with the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS), and was also a Border Patrol agent and investigator.
Always fascinated by sandbox disputes proffered and then withdrawn. Imagine if we had real problems to discuss!