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Trump Calls Bloomberg A “Racist” In Tweet Over Stop And Frisk . .. Then Deletes It

President Donald Trump had another embarrassing tweet debacle today. Trump sought to highlight the recently disclosed remarks by Michael Bloomberg on the stop-and-frisk policy. Trump tweeted out “WOW, BLOOMBERG IS A TOTAL RACIST.” The problem is that in 2016 Trump supported that policy. The tweet was suddenly taken down but not before journalists like Abby Phillip took a screenshot. The issue could loom large in both the primary and general election. There are however a couple of points that could be used by both candidates in addressing criticism, though Bloomberg has already renounced his prior statements and policy.

The Bloomberg campaign reportedly tried to pressure the Aspen not to release the tap. That effort to bury the recording failed and the tape shows Bloomberg saying:

“Ninety-five percent of murders- murderers and murder victims fit one M.O. You can just take a description, Xerox it, and pass it out to all the cops . . . They are male, minorities, 16-25. That’s true in New York, that’s true in virtually every city (inaudible). And that’s where the real crime is. You’ve got to get the guns out of the hands of people that are getting killed.

. . .

“So one of the unintended consequences is people say, ‘Oh my God, you are arresting kids for marijuana that are all minorities.’ Yes, that’s true. Why? Because we put all the cops in minority neighborhoods. Yes, that’s true. Why do we do it? Because that’s where all the crime is. And the way you get the guns out of the kids’ hands is to throw them up against the wall and frisk them… And then they start… ‘Oh I don’t want to get caught.’ So they don’t bring the gun. They still have a gun, but they leave it at home.”

Trump is fighting to peel away a fraction of the African American vote and pounced without thinking:

That triggered critics to note that the “racist” policy was supported by Trump.

Abby D. Phillip✔@abbydphillip

There’s just one little problem with this…

Donald J. Trump in 2016: “I would do stop-and-frisk. I think you have to. We did it in New York, it worked incredibly well and you have to be proactive and, you know, you really help people sort of change their mind automatically,” https://twitter.com/timmurtaugh/status/1227231557057949696 …

The hair-trigger tweets are continuing to undermine Trump. While other Democrats like Bernie Sanders could use this to wedge African-American voters away from Bloomberg, the issue may have less success in a Trump v. Bloomberg race. On the other hand, it creates an equivalency with Trump when Trump is not trying to win the African-American vote but simply peel off enough to win. Yet, Trump will also have to decide if he wants to oppose the policy given the support of some law enforcement advocates and his own clear support in interviews in 2016. Yet, other Republicans like Lindsey Graham have called it “pretty offensive.”

The New York stop-and-frisk policy was found unconstitutional before Trump gave his full-throated endorsement of the policy. Indeed, in an exchange with Lester Holt, Trump noted that the district court judge had been removed from a related case and that New York would have ultimately won the case if Mayor De Blasio did not abandon the litigation: “No, you’re wrong,” Trump responded. “It went before a judge, who was a very against-police judge. It was taken away from her. And our mayor, our new mayor, refused to go forward with the case. They would have won an appeal. If you look at it, throughout the country, there are many places where it’s allowed.”

Bloomberg however tried repeatedly to set aside such decisions and reinstate the policy.

There is a couple of nuanced points here that may work in Trump’s favor. First and foremost, stop and frisks are not unconstitutional per se. In  Terry vs. Ohio, the Supreme Court ruled that an office could legally stop a person if the officer has reasonable suspicion of criminal activity. The Court said a frisk could occur if there was reasonable suspicion that the person was armed or presented a risk to the officer. The issue therefore in the U.S. District Court in Manhattan, Floyd vs. City of New York, was how New York was using this power. Thus, the issue was whether this constitutional practice was being implemented in an unconstitutional way. In her opinion, Judge Shira Scheindlin said that it was being done unconstitutionally, noting “[b]oth statistical and anecdotal evidence showed that minorities are indeed treated differently than whites.”

137 thoughts on “Trump Calls Bloomberg A “Racist” In Tweet Over Stop And Frisk . .. Then Deletes It”

  4. Turley Overlooks Crime Stats

    The Professor gives us the same story playing throughout mainstream media: Bloomberg’s Stop & Frisk was labled ‘racist’. Yet Trump had previously condoned Stop & Frisk before pretending he’s against it’.  

    But mainstream media, and Turley as well, felt it was incorrect to note that NYC crime statistics trended downward under Bloomberg.  It seems that something was working right.  Yet for the sake of current discussion one must only say that Bloomberg promoted ‘racist’ policies.

    It’s no secret Turley wants Bernie Sanders to be the Democratic nominee.  Turley has, in fact, become an Honorary Bernie Bro.

    An Honorary Bernie Bro is a Trumper who knows Bernie Sanders is a George McGovern in waiting.  Honorary Bernie Bros keep telling us how “Democrats screwed poor Bernie”.  

    Honorary Bernie Bros fear Mike Bloomberg more than any Democrat.  They know Bloomberg’s money (and grasp of technology) could bury Donald Trump.  So honorary Bernie Bros never miss a chance to say, “Poor Bernie, the Democrats want to screw him again”.  In this spirit Turley runs this column to hint that ‘Bloomberg’s a racist’.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/bloomberg-is-correct-about-crime-in-new-york-city/

  7. “embarrassing tweet debacle today”? Poor taste maybe, .. no, not really that either. Telling the truth is now an embarrassing debacle? Even Turley is part Orwellian.
    Grow a pair pansies.

    1. “Live Free or Die”, voted for a communist. Let that sink in for a minute. People with a death wish.

      1. Nope. A member of the Norwegian Conservative Party stated that Bernie Sanders would fit right in with that group.

        1. If that’s true, that “member of the Norwegian Conservative Party” isn’t very familiar with Bernie’s vision of expanded government.

            1. Mr. Benson demonstrates ignorance of the tenets of the Norwegian Conservative Party.

              1. Did Mr. Benson find the comment supposedly made by “a member of the Norwegian Conservative Party” in the Ukraine English- language news service?🙂🤗

  9. I ignore comments by “Anonymous”.

    It is easy to pick a display name, sometimes called a handle. For example,
    Ohwa Tagu Siam

    For those who are frightened of using their actual name.

  13. Sorry, JT. It is one thing to support stop and frisk based on probable cause and quite another thing to say what Bloomberg said.

    1. Stop and Frisk based on reasonable suspicion via articulate facts, under the totality of circumstances.

      If it is probable cause, or PC, (but not the Politically Correct, pc, the other one), then it will lead to an Arrest.

      Many times those who are SF-ed are let go to carry on with their day….

      Reasonable Suspicion standard, including, time of day, location, i.e., a high crime neighborhood, where crimes are rampant, “casing” the joint. yada, yada, yada…..I’ll know it when I see it.

  14. Remember, Michael Bloomberg didn’t want to let you buy a 32 oz. soda. I’m trying to get government out of my life as much as reasonably possible. I’ve got my own moral compass, I don’t need Michael Bloomberg value system.

  15. Blacks have no where to go in the DNC. With Black voters switching more and more to Trump, the Dems are done. Even the black news websites are undermining the Dem candidates. They are done

    🤣

    “NYPD ‘Stop-and-Frisk’ Numbers Up 22 Percent in 2019”

    https://www.theroot.com/nypd-stop-and-frisk-numbers-up-22-percent-in-2019-1841604541

    The controversial “stop-and-frisk” policy of the New York Police Department has spent a great amount of time in the news lately as former NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg—who is currently running for president—has been repeatedly called to task for the policy he supported up until recently.

    Regardless of how Bloomberg is now trying to clean up his image and divorce himself from stop-and-frisk, the controversial policy is still in place within the NYPD, and even worse, the number of stop-and-frisks jumped up by 22 percent in 2019, according to a report released by the department Friday.

    1. We’ve never heard of FBeklhr before. Funny how he, or she, just popped out of nowhere to comment on this.

      1. You of all people have no standing to question a new name on this blog. Come on paint chips, if you just took 30 seconds to question the stupidity of your posts, not only would you stop needing to change your ID, you would shorten the thread counts by 10%.

        2. Olly, one of these days you might come up with a new joke. But then again, it’s hard to teach an old dog new tricks.

          2. Paint Chips or Peter or Seth, or any of your other aliases, you don’t know when to give up. I think that we should refer to you as Paint Chips from now on.

      2. Seth eats paint chips in West Hollywood, CA when crystal meth isn’t available.

        It shows

  16. The problem is in the history of that candidates party

    Northern Democrats trafficked in slaves
    Southern Democrats bought and owned slaves
    combined together
    Democrats were the Black law and jim crow law party
    Then after being taken over by the socialist style liberal regressives
    became the party of anti civil rights
    and that continued up through the most of the last century
    when they became the party of one leader/one party pushing for no voting by citizens

    One can hardly not think of them as still in the clutches of slavery considering except for a few Toms have done what exactly for African Americans?

    Well drafted them into the military for the never ending but that was sexist as they made women remain second class as baby factories while supporting victimizers of women

    They are lucky he didn’t call them racist, sexist and adding in their leadership religious bigots.

    But then we didn’t pick President Trump to be like the insider politicians. We picked him to help expose and destroy ‘all of the above’ and preserve, protect and defend Our Constitutional Republic of, by and for the citizens against foreign and outdated ideologies.

  17. The RNC has raised $241 million this year and $17 million since impeachment started in the Senate. The Dims are insolvent. Follow the money.

  18. There is another button under the finger of the President. It’s called the nuclear button. If he kid too quick to press the Twitter button he may y a threat with the nuclear one.

  19. Allan said:

    “I normally like to wait 3 days…”

    lol

    sure you do, Allan. and speaking of “spew[ing] garbage”… lol, again.

  20. I normally like to wait 3 days by which time we generally find out that what was said wasn’t true, out of context or had an explanation.

    I’ll accept for now that in a tweet Trump called Romney a racist. In the context as it is presently understood that wasn’t an appropriate statement. While everyone is screaming their opinions they are forgetting Trump has been called a racist and an anti-Semite all the time as are his supporters that are also called deplorables.

    For all I know Romney might have called Trump a racist as well. As stupid as they are none of these statements significantly affect policy rather demonstrate the coarseness of people in high places. The big difference, however, is that Trump took his statement down demonstrating that the statement as it stood had no present backing. On the other side of the coin the left continues to call Trump a racist and an anti-Semite while they call his followers the same adding the word deplorables. Instead of ceasing such vile talk the left doubles down and continues to spew this garbage day after day.

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