Despite a public condemnation by Attorney General Bill Barr, President Donald Trump is back tweeting and atacking a wide range of Justice Department attorneys and investigations. That includes the recently resigned prosecutors in the case of Trump associate Roger Stone. These irresponsible tweets continue undermine Barr and magnify the problems for the Administration with both the courts and Congress.
President Trump lashed out this morning in the tweet series below.
In the tweets, he not only insists that the “Everything having to do with this fraudulent investigation is badly tainted and, in my opinion, should be thrown out” but adds that he may sue everyone involved.
Once again, it is difficult to comprehend the meaning, let along the purpose, of such tweets. Nothing can be “thrown out” in the Mueller investigation in that the report is complete and no conviction was based on its findings. Any convictions were the result of separate trials that were based on grand jury and other information made part of those records. As for suing everyone, such lawsuit could be technically filed but would be quickly rejected as frivolous.
Some of us agree with the criticism of the Russian investigation, a criticism that has been reinforced by findings that there was no probable cause for the renewal of the FISA surveillance and there was no collusion with Russia. In addition, the investigations by the Inspector General found considerable and raw bias by key players in the investigation.
That brings us back to the purpose. This is obviously putting Barr in an impossible position, as he stated publicly. Indeed, Barr stated just two days ago, that “I think it’s time to stop the tweeting about Department of Justice criminal cases. I’m not going to be bullied or influenced by anybody … whether it’s Congress, a newspaper editorial board, or the president.” He added “I cannot do my job here at the department with a constant background commentary that undercuts me.”
It would seem like Trump is fully aware that the tweets could be viewed as calling Barr’s bluff, if he thinks it was a bluff. It would seem obvious that this would create pressure on Barr to either resign from his office or resign himself to Trump’s tirades. That would be a huge mistake for Trump, but Trump may still be angry over being publicly criticized. Whatever his intent, the tweets further paint Barr into a corner either by default or design.
Here are the tweets:
Donald J. Trump✔@realDonaldTrump
These were Mueller prosecutors, and the whole Mueller investigation was illegally set up based on a phony and now fully discredited Fake Dossier, lying and forging documents to the FISA Court, and many other things. Everything having to do with this fraudulent investigation is…32.9K8:14 AM – Feb 18, 2020Twitter Ads info and privacy14.1K people are talking about this
“Everything having to do with this fraudulent investigation is badly tainted and, in my opinion, should be thrown out,” Trump continued, while slamming Mueller himself and claiming he lied to Congress about whether he sought to lead the FBI.
Donald J. Trump✔@realDonaldTrump · 2h
These were Mueller prosecutors, and the whole Mueller investigation was illegally set up based on a phony and now fully discredited Fake Dossier, lying and forging documents to the FISA Court, and many other things. Everything having to do with this fraudulent investigation is…
Donald J. Trump✔@realDonaldTrump
….badly tainted and, in my opinion, should be thrown out. Even Mueller’s statement to Congress that he did not see me to become the FBI Director (again), has been proven false. The whole deal was a total SCAM. If I wasn’t President, I’d be suing everyone all over the place…24.2K8:14 AM – Feb 18, 2020Twitter Ads info and privacy8,625 people are talking about this
Donald J. Trump✔@realDonaldTrump · 2hReplying to @realDonaldTrump
….badly tainted and, in my opinion, should be thrown out. Even Mueller’s statement to Congress that he did not see me to become the FBI Director (again), has been proven false. The whole deal was a total SCAM. If I wasn’t President, I’d be suing everyone all over the place…
Donald J. Trump✔@realDonaldTrump
….BUT MAYBE I STILL WILL. WITCH HUNT!22.6K8:14 AM – Feb 18, 2020Twitter Ads info and privacy10.2K people are talking about this
Washington has a habit of forgetting wicked acts, only to have them resurface. Prophet Trump is reminding those who have a tendency to forget.
What in the world will you write about when you can’t dump on Trump anymore? Every little crumb he drops you make a meal out of. That’s plain and simple laziness. You obviously are dedicated to a new socialist society and are working hard to achieve that. I have my opinion as you do. Academia has gone to hell in a hand basket.
The problems are with Courts and Congress continually undermining the Administration. They seem to have forgotten that the President is the Executive while they keep trying to take over the running of the country.
Is DJT a “boy named Sue?” Kind of a shame that Johnny Cash is no longer alive…
Barr’s statement was nothing more than telling Trump to stop telling what they are up too. To the republican senate and DOJ Trump IS above the law, and there is nothing he can do that breaks the law in any way. With Trump and Barr, breaking the law does not mean there is a crime. And even if it was a crime, so what.
“Trump Should Keep Shaming the Justice Department on Twitter”
“The Justice Department has taken the blindfold off Lady Justice so it can protect its political allies and punish its enemies. Courts and Congress have been powerless to shame them. If a few tweets are causing mild discomfort inside the department, the president should keep tweeting about this as often as possible”
https://amgreatness.com/2020/02/15/trump-should-keep-shaming-the-justice-department-on-twitter/
Who can blame Trump? No matter who he appoints or what he does the DOJ/FBI remains an arm of the Democrat Party Security Service. Even when investigators recommend prosecuting the insurrectionists Barr’s DOJ still declines to prosecute! There is no justice when it comes to Democrat criminality.
Amen
Federal Judges Call Emergency Meeting
A national association of federal judges has called an emergency meeting Tuesday to address growing concerns about the intervention of Justice Department officials and President Donald Trump in politically sensitive cases, the group’s president said Monday.
Philadelphia U.S. District Judge Cynthia Rufe, who heads the independent Federal Judges Association, said the group “could not wait” until its spring conference to weigh in on a deepening crisis that has enveloped the Justice Department and Attorney General William Barr.
“There are plenty of issues that we are concerned about,” Rufe told USA TODAY. “We’ll talk all of this through.”
Rufe, nominated to the bench by President George W. Bush, said the group of more than 1,000 federal jurists called for the meeting last week after Trump criticized prosecutors’ initial sentencing recommendation for his friend Roger Stone and the Department of Justice overruled them.
Edited from: “Federal Judges Association Calls Emergency Meeting After DOJ Intervenes In Case Of Roger Stone”
Article III lifetime tenure judges are powerful and they want to flex their muscles. The problem is they were appointed for their brains not their muscles. And their timidity as opposed to their boldness. So I predict the hens will just cluck and lay an egg.
Those judges are only 0.01% of federal judges. They can say what they want collectively but it will not change everything illegal being done within the government to cover up what was done and is being done to conservatives and the absolute freedom of the Democrats to break the law with impunity.
Phyllis: I really don’t understand how you can claim to be a person of faith and write about your hatred of Democrats and fondness for someone like Trump and defense of his conduct. Do you come up with this stuff during your walks around the lake, or what?
Resolved: Nutjobcha is a strain of Crapolavirus and hopes to spread her virus proteins all over America
Handy Wipes are in order
So you have investigated me ,Nacho. I don’t use my faith like Nancy Pelosi for
political gain. If I did I’d accuse both of you as complicit in the death of millions of unborn. I’m not doing that. You can both stand before God and answer to him.
“Cruz said she could not make further comments about the planned conference call but confirmed that the nine-member executive committee of the group decided the emergency meeting was necessary. Five officers of the group, including Judge Cynthia M. Rufe, its president, will also participate in the call”
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This is from CNN about an hour ago. It appears that 9 Executive Committee and 5 officers of the group will be the only ones “meeting” tomorrow.
With part or all of that meeting in the form of a conference call.
There are 1700-1800 federal judges, and as I understand it, 1,000 are members of this organization.
You rooting for another impeachment?
That is the third time today that you misinterpreted comments, P. Rogers.
BTW you aren’t counting federal judges in every city in this nation
And we should care because…..?
Oh wait, when conservative judges meet under the mantle of the Federalist Society, the ABA states they are violating Ethics Guidelines and has epileptic fits but when they are liberals gathering we should all be sober and alert?
Puhleeze….
https://abovethelaw.com/2019/09/newly-released-documents-show-conservative-judges-are-violating-ethics-guidelines-by-appearing-at-federalist-society-events/
“Newly Released Documents Show Conservative Judges Are Violating Ethics Guidelines By Appearing At Federalist Society Events
Not that conservative judges or the Federalist Society gives a hot damn about ethics”
My mother always told me there is nothing more pathetic than a sore loser so hiss and spit all you want my vote still counts.
https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_federal_courts
This is the source I used; it was easier than trying to go to every jurisdiction, figure out how many there were in each, then add them up to get the total number.
We probably have too much time on our hands. Why don’t we wait to debate when there is a real problem like Bernie winning the nomination. He’s an old hippie with some really quick ways of ruining our country.
Mr. Turley can you help Roger Stone? I believe that you are a honest person. I wish you would rethink your Democrat roots. The party left you a long time ago. Please tell all of us WHY you are still in the Democrat party? Convince us we may join you!!!
Just as I predicted here, Tweety Bird was able to restrain himself for only a few days. And we will see if Barr has the courage to forego his glory as US Attorney General by resigning because – in Barr’s own words – Tweety has “made it impossible for [Barr] to do [his] job.” My prediction now: Barr will not resign. He loves the glory too much. But he will prove that he does not have the courage of his convictions. That is, he is a complete hypocrite.
I like Barr but let him resign. There will be another qualified applicant in line I am sure.
As things heat up, “he who dares, wins”
“made it impossible for [Barr] to do [his] job.”
If you accept this statement of Barr (errantly quoted but good enough) then you should be accepting the rest in the same fashion so I quoted a few of his statements. Of course tweets can make the AG’s job difficult but the tweets arise from what the media and others have done that also make the AG’s job difficult. Barr signed up for a difficult job. Let’s look at the important things.
“And I’m happy to say that, in fact the president has never asked me to do anything in a criminal case.”
“And I will make those decisions based on what I think is the right thing to do and I’m not going to be bullied or influenced by anybody. And I said, whether it’s Congress, newspaper editorial boards, or the president. I’m going to do what I think is right.”
In otherwords Barr’s problems arise from more than just the President. I’m sure many working people have problems that arise from their boss. The essential thing is that Barr will do his job properly something that was not done in the prior administrations.
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“THOMAS: So just to be clear, did you talk to the President at all about your decision regarding the recommendations?
BARR: The recommendations on this case? Never.”
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Let that sink in because that is what created this interview.
” We live, unfortunately, you know, one of the things that makes it difficult is the hyper-partisan age we live in. That makes it very difficult.”
That is the broader problem. The left is so hyperpartisan that it is subverting the law to its own purposes. Can this Constitutional Republic withstand this type of action by the left. In the long term probably not and perhaps the progeny of the leftist defenders of the left might have to badly suffer for the problems created by those alive now.
(All quotes except noted are Barr’s)
Allen — Barr said that Trump’s statements were making it “impossible” for Barr to do his job. Coming from the precise and careful lawyer that Barr is, are we to [mis]interpret his use of the word “impossible” and define it to mean simply “awkward?”
R2D2-AY
Your talking points need to be updated with the most recent directives from your cult leaders. Pay attention and repeat them sequentially without pause
Gort, “Klaatu barada nikto……..Klaatu barada nikto”
+ 10
RD, I guess that means you accept the rest of what Barr says as true along with the fact that he is a good AG. Impossible is a bit of hyperbole so perhaps he should have used a different word but I agree with Barr, very specific tweets should be toned down but only when they are specific. However, in the end Trump has been right about most things so I hope he handles his tweets where Barr is concerned a trifle more cautiously.
The take away sentence: “the president has never asked me to do anything in a criminal case.”
Now we have a proper starting off point that both of us can remember.
They do not undermine Barr. They lite a fire under his ass!!! The new Sheriff in Town is President Trump. What’s that in the Constitution that even lets Presidents speak out. Your old school Proff. Turley.
Trump
Please stop with the distraction Barr is the best. Don’t let him get away you may trouble filling positions in your next term
Barr is the best tool for Trump, but the worst for America. He’s trashing the DOJ and our blind justice system. You understand that, right?
Anon, once again we ask for proof absent the BS.
Barr hasn’t done a thing to help.
Our glorious president last week:
“Believe it or not, a long time ago, I was told I have a great ear for music by somebody. I took a test. They said, ‘He has a wonderful aptitude for music.’ I said, ‘I do?'”
Reportedly only Kim Il Jong has as good an ear for music.
The stable genius and chosen one has spoken.
“now fully discredited Fake Dossier”
Taking Trump’s tweets apart, for the most part he is repeating what is well known and accepted. These tweets are not specifically involving any specific ongoing trials or any names of those that might be investigated. I would be more comfortable if Trump’s tweeting in this specific area were more judicious but I think the media and Turley are making a lot more of Trump’s comments then actually exist.
Many on the left are looking for a one sided fight where the left can beat on Trump but he is not permitted to respond. That leaves the country in a bad place but neither the media nor the left care.
Regarding Above Comment:
“Taking Trump’s tweets apart, for the most part he is repeating what is well known and accepted”.
Known and Accepted by ‘who’..?? Consumers of rightwing media? Trump gets most of his ideas from rightwing media. Rightwing media influences Trump. Trump, in turn, acts on said influence which then seems to validate rightwing media. We’ve seen this pattern since Trump’s first day in office.
It seems Paint Chips believes in the validity of the Steele Dossier despite the fact its contents have been shown to be wrong, admissions from multiple people, etc. Peter Paint Chips likes to litigate everything even after the litigation is over. That is fine with me Paint Chips because what you say is worthless so keep demonstrating that your lead level is in the highly toxic range.
Seth, isn’t it clear to you now that that’s where JT gets his news too?
Anon, What a dumb remark.
Book, I used to think JT was a so-called ‘Establishment Republican’. But lately I suspect Turley’s under pressure to provide whatever support he can for Trump.
why do you think he’s a Republican? He served as a leadership page for an Illinois Democrat
Of course the Dem party is so far left today it makes a lot of former Illinois Democrats blush. The collar counties of Chicago are full of Republicans who grew up in Chicago Democrat households, who left the city and changed their stripes.
Eddie Vyrdolyak is one who comes to mind. One time alderman and head of the Cook County Dem party. Skilled political operator, and a fine lawyer, in my mind, a living legend. But, he got screwed by Harold Washington like so many other former Chicagoans, and left the city and became a Republican. There’s probably tens of thousands who followed his lead, at least.
Kurtz, Fast Eddie typified everything that was wrong with Chicago politics. To hold him up as a ‘legend’s is delusional.
I resolve not to eat anymore Glidden lead based paint-chips and will strive to chew Sherwin Williams ass instead…lead free
Eddie is indeed a living legend. Why am I surprised you don’t like him.
The Deep State type perpetual bureaucrat persecutor guys hated him too. Tried to make flimsy charges stick a hundred times and finally landed a win on a weak tax evasion beef, against an 81 year old man. Pathetic!
Although he kicked many butts along the way, so a lot of people hate him, he also has a stellar reputation among people who worked with him, people who know him, people he helped in countless ways, now and all the way back to the old south side tavern. Matter of fact, he helped me too, but that doesn’t matter. Am I biased in favor of people who help me? Of course i am.
I’ll just leave it at that.
who cares. you guys read his tweets, I don’t. he’s trolling you and you suckers eat it up.
Huh??? I am not seeing anything anti-Barr here. I think that is just the spin that is being put on it. If anything, it is pro-Barr. Because Trump is pointing out that something is screwed with the DOJ and has been for a while. Which undercuts the position of the 2000 “ex-DOJ officials” in the latest Théâtre d’Indignation production.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/protect-democracy-project/
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Squeeky,
Here is a some info about the “non-partisan” group that organized and publicized the “DOJ Alumni” crowd.
They have presented several earlier anti-Trump, anti-Trump Administration DOJs over the past few years.
There’s more information about this group and their 501c in the “Bull Meets China Shop” thread.
As much as i wish he would not do it i understand the need to do it. He knows he did nothing wrong and investigations have proven him right. I remember years ago when he said he thought his campaign was spied upon they laughed at him. When it was proven true they did not acknowledge it. Unfortunately tweeting is his only way to get his truth out.
Carole, that’s false. The House proved Trump’s guilt – even GOP Senators admitted it. Happy to talk details with you if you’d like.
The House proved Trump’s guilt –
More wishcasting from you.
No. The house presented the case using bogus, basement (less-than-open) testimony. The Senate held the trial, finding him innocent of the charges presented by the prosecution (The House) You think the house held a trial! Wrong. The trial was in the senate. The jury — The Senate — found him innocent.
State the exact item Trump was guilty of along with the law.
State the legal proof of guilt (used in courts of law) and the proof provided of non-guilt.
Skip all the BS you use to hide the truth.
You really are extremely gullible
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Some never learned how to quit when you’re ahead!
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Anyone working for Trump will end up diminished
You mean like you?
Yes, we don’t want Trump getting in the way of Barr being a complete tool.
” … a complete tool.”
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As are so, so many others you deride, Barr”s smarter, richer and more accomplished than you. Your criticism should be taken as the greenish slime it is.
Well Mespo, your “reasoning” doesn’t hold up, though illustrative of how Trumpsters think I suppose. I’m smarter than you and Jeffery Epstein was both smarter and richer than you. You don’t even know that this thread isn’t about me.
” I’m smarter than you ”
Anon smarter than Mespo? That is the biggest laugh of the day. Maybe anon can hit a nail with a hammer, but he can’t use a hammer as his only instrument and that is what he does.
Mespo recently claimed the constitution specified that the Senate was not to call witnesses. Of course it doesn’t say that, and given that until the last one, the Senate has heard witnesses at every impeachment hearing it has held, a ridiculous claim he couldn’t back up. I don’t like to brag, but hey, the guys a lawyer. I can admit It’s more a measure of his dullness than my brilliance.
Never said it and you can’t show it. Another fraud.
I should have mentioned that as well Mespo because Anon misquotes all the time. I remember when Anon used the name Jan F. Anon made statements about who said what. I decided to spend the time and reproduce the arguments that showed Anon lied and misquoted. A short time later and after a lot of people noted the same things Jan F. disappeared forever and became Anon. Anon then became Anon 1 and has had several names even posting on the same thread with more than one alias. The one I am responding to is one of his aliases.
Anon is a chronic fabricator and at times abusive.
Now you’re a liar Mespo. The day is young. Want to go for axe murderer.
The Senate didn’t really call witnesses rather they heard from the same witnesses that had been previously interviewed. One could say that you were both right in that instance but Mespo had an understanding of what was under discussion. You did not.
The reasoning is you don’t have the chops to criticize a guy who towers over you in every definable category. To give you the flash card version: Given your limited legal acumen and minimal relative accomlishments, you have no basis to criticize Barr.
Spoken like a true eastern elitist Mespo.
I knew there was nothing in the constitution about the Senate not hearing witnesses, and you didn’t. What does that make you?
An American for starters, Kumrag