Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz pulled a Giuliani on television this weekend by claiming bombshell evidence in his possession but refusing to disclose it. On Fox News, Dershowitz claimed that he has conclusive proof that Barack Obama “personally asked” the FBI to investigation someone “on behalf of George Soros,” the wealthy liberal donor. However, Dershowitz mysteriously referenced future “litigation” where all of this would be disclosed.
Dershowitz was responding to allegations of political influence exercised by Bill Barr in the Stone case. Ironically, Dershowitz’s defense (like his widely rejected impeachment theory) seemed more damaging than helpful. He argued that plenty of presidents have used the Justice Department for political purposes — hardly a moral high ground. He insisted “There was a lot of White House control of the Justice Department during the Kennedy administration and I don’t think we saw very many liberal professors arguing against that.” However, he then dropped this bombshell:
“I have some information as well about the Obama administration – which will be disclosed in a lawsuit at some point, but I’m not prepared to disclose it now – about how President Obama personally asked the FBI to investigate somebody on behalf of George Soros, who was a close ally of his.”
Dershowitz also harkened back to his impeachment argument with the ‘shoe-on-the-other-foot test” reference:
“We’ve seen this kind of White House influence on the Justice Department virtually in every Justice Department. The difference: This president is much more overt about it, he tweets about it. President Obama whispered to the Justice Department about it. And, I don’t think these 1,000 former Justice Department officials would pass the shoe-on-the-other-foot test. Maybe some of them would, but a good many of them wouldn’t.”
The first assumption for many was that Dershowitz was referencing the Epstein litigation where he has been at the center of cross lawsuits against lawyers and Epstein victims, including women who allege that Dershowitz was one of the men who had sex with underaged girls. These lawsuits continue to expand. However, it could be an entirely separate lawsuit. The only connection that I know of between Soros and the Epstein matter was the appearance of the nephew of Soros in the phonebook of Epstein.
Previously, others like Joe diGenova have said that they have evidence that Soros was involved in the Ukrainian scandals and added “Well, there’s no doubt that George Soros controls a very large part of the career foreign service of the United States State Department. He also controls the activities of FBI agents overseas who work for NOG’s, work with NGO’s.
What was clear is that the discovery referenced by Dershowitz includes field “302s” which many of us acquire in discovery in criminal cases. When pressed, Dershowitz stated
“That’s going to come out in a lawsuit in the near future, yeah. That is not unusual. People whisper to presidents all the time; presidents whisper to the Justice Department all the time. It’s very common; it’s wrong, whoever does it — but it’s common, and we shouldn’t think it’s unique to any particular president. I have in my possession the actual 302 [witness report] form which documents this issue and it will at the right time come out, but I’m not free to disclose it now because it’s a case that’s not yet been filed.”
His statement that he is “not free to disclose it” is curious since he is disclosing part of its content, albeit without names other than Soros and Obama. That makes it sound as if it could still be under a court seal. I would think that a court would look with displeasure on a pending or later motion to unseal if the document has been raised in interviews on an unrelated subject.
I am not keen on such opaque references alleging serious improprieties. It sounds a bit too much like Wimpy promising “I’d gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.” He is alleging that a Obama asking for an investigation at the behest of a Hungarian billionaire into an individual in the United States. That is pretty serious, if true. However, without some details, it is toying with a matter of great national importance — or yet another defamation lawsuit.
There is no doubt that Trump faces greater scrutiny because he is rather transparent in his thinking (even the thoughts that aren’t “constructive”). I’d much rather have a small lie told to my face (Trump) than big lies happen behind closed doors (other politicians, in my opinion). The political class has yet to accept that greater transparency of their actions is a new feature of the landscape…they are afraid to death of it.
” He argued that plenty of presidents have used the Justice Department for political purposes”
Barr is his own man and quite independent of Trump. I don’t think Trump could make Barr do anything Barr didn’t want or intend to do. People generally don’t change their stripes so late in the game. I think Barr is pretty straight and my fear would be that he wouldn’t want to upset our government to the degree that he might not prosecute those that deserve prosecution.
In any event look at FDR. He inappropriately used the, IRS, played quid pro quo all the time, used the tax payer monies to incentivize groups of people to vote for him and he tried to pack the courts. When it came to politically protecting the public one can refer to a poll: 45% of the public felt his acts and policies might lead to dictatorship.
Taking up on something Anonymous just said, consider this. The Democratic leadership is pretty blatant in their contempt for deplorables, rustic credulous boomers, and bitter clingers – mostly poorer type white folks and white middle classes in flyover country.
Do you really think that such people just love the heck out of black people??? You know, that bunch of uneducated, near 80% illegitimate birth rate, highly violent and criminal group that can barely speak in an articulate manner when considered as a group? I mean no matter how much they rail against poor white folks, and praise “people of color”, do you really believe they are sincere???
I don’t. I think the mask slips sometimes and also why I think they are so “anti-racist” on the surface. Because the truth is, they can’t stand most black people either, and they figger that if they, the elite chosen ones, harbor such feelings in spite of their status and education, then surely the feelings are worse among the white hoi polloi. I think the proper psychological term is “projection.”
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Considering that the Justice Department was founded for political purposes in the first place – to “investigate the Klan,” which had already disbanded, it’s not surprising that it has been used for political purposes ever since. The idea that the DOJ and it’s spinoff, the FBI, are “independent agencies” is a myth. It is part of the Executive Branch and answers to the president, who has the authority to order it to do anything, period. Dershowitz is probably right. After all, he can read and understand that “treason, bribery and other high crimes and misdemeanors” aren’t open to liberal interpretation.
Considering that the Justice Department was founded for political purposes in the first place – to “investigate the Klan,” which had already disbanded
The Attorney-General’s office was founded in 1789. There was no Klan. A federal statute consolidating functions (including those of the Attorney-General) into a new department was passed in 1870. There actually was a Klan at that time, but attention to the Klan was hardly the sole reason or even and important reason we have a federal court system and a set of officers to argue the government’s case in that system.
The Democrats from Bill Clinton forward are exposed as the liars many Americans knew and now all can plainly see: Obama, Hillary, Mayor Pete, Bloomberg, Kamala Harris, Betto ORourke, the list is endless- they hate Americans except those in cherry picked states
Trump 2020!
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“Bloomberg comments reveal ‘ugly core of lies’ in Dem party that created ‘Dumpster fire of a country’.”
Fox Nation host Tammy Bruce said Michael Bloomberg’s reported history of sexist comments and recorded remarks about the treatment of minorities have revealed a disturbing nature about the Democrats.
“I think Michael Bloomberg is great in that he finally reveals that ugly core of the lies that have driven this party to create a Dumpster fire of a country as it manifested through Barack Obama and the Democratic establishment,” Bruce told “Hannity” Monday, referencing the former president.
“You get that when you really have contempt for the people you say you represent. It’s the ultimate lie and this is what Bloomberg represents. He has contempt for everyone but himself,” she added.
‘THROW THEM UP AGAINST THE WALL AND FRISK THEM’: BLOOMBERG DEFENDS STOP AND FRISK IN NEW AUDIO
Bruce’s comments came amid reports that while promoting a $127 million, three-year initiative to help minorities in the workplace in 2011, Bloomberg, then the New York City mayor, declared there was “this enormous cohort of black and Latino males” who “don’t know how to behave in the workplace” and “don’t have any prospects.”
The head-turning comments in a resurfaced interview were just the latest headache for the billionaire’s campaign. In the past week, Bloomberg has been confronted with his previous claims that farming didn’t take much intelligence and that “anybody” could do it, as well as his insistence that the way to get guns “out of the kids’ hands is to throw them up against the wall and frisk them.”
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“He is alleging that a Obama asking for an investigation at the behest of a Hungarian billionaire into an individual in the United States. That is pretty serious, if true.”
Be careful JT, for if (when) it comes out that Trump did this, you will have a tough time arguing why it is just peachy for Trump to do it.
Who was the investigation into???? Guess
“I am not keen on such opaque references alleging serious improprieties. It sounds a bit too much like Wimpy promising “I’d gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.”
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Whatever your opinion of Prof. Dershowitz, he’s not in the habitat of saying he can prove things when he can’t.
Exactly. Now if Laurence Tribe had said something like this, then it would have zero cred.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
You mean Looney Larry?
That’s right! We’ve all seen the pics of him getting a massage from a 15 year old girl while dressed only in his tightie whities and reading Black’s Law dictionary.
btb:
Another “never happened.” It was an adult woman and there are no pictures in the public domain. The lies just never end.
I believe what A.D. said
There was a lot of under cover activity in the Obama W.H. We will eventually find out. He did a lot of whispering . Trump puts it all out there no guessing
The FBI was just the tip of the iceberg. If HRC had got elected we would all be in the dark. Americans need to wakeup and see the truth about the Democrats. Before they elect more of them
Who Flung Foo was a Chinese activist in the Carter terms. His words were often smelled but not spoken. The article kind of mimics Who Flung Foo. It smells on my computer.
I’ve been watching Narcos and it’s becoming clear to me that the DNC is just the gringo version of Mexico’s PRI.
This is from an article in today’s Atlantic. What to do about the threat posed by this dangerous and vocal group?
“The consistent support for Trump from a small, but vocal, subset of Latino voters is a real threat to Democrats. If unchanged, this dynamic could have devastating repercussions for Latinos, and for the country as a whole.”
Douglas Shulman was asked why he appeared on the White House visitor logs so many times when his predecessor appeared hardly at all. He mentioned the White House Easter Egg Roll. That was a tell. Partisan Democrats’ understanding of their own office-holders is quite fanciful.
I remover when Dershowitz was a respected law professor. Now, in my opinion, he’s just a hack.
Remember….autocorrect is annoying.
I’ll remover that, J. Holmes.
It is heresy to speak ill of St. Barack.
I believe Alan Dershowitz and I believe Soros would ask Obama who would do anything Soros asked. Obama has a lot to be worried about, from spying on Trump, stacking informants, covering for Hilary, Corruption, the Biden family corruption and etc.
Dershowitz – if he has the goods – it may blow things widen open. But, also Barr and Durham are quietly moving and they are looking not only at Brennan, Comey, Clapper and etc. But, it appears they are closing in on Obama.
You said, “Dershowitz – if he has the goods – it may blow things widen open. ”
No. Sadly it won’t. It will hardly be a blip in the Main Stream Media. Half the country, the Democrats have no interest in morality, consistency, or logic. Nope. All they care about is winning, power, and money. This does not help them, so it will go nowhere.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
@Squeeky-
It will go nowhere, except that Dershowitz will be excommunicated.
I wish I could say you are wrong Squeeky…but I can’t.
I know. Isn’t it sad?
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Is Durham still alive??? I demand to see him fog a mirror or some kind of proof of Life.
Who were all those other names at AG that were going to do something.
Trust the Plan, Bullsh*t my azz & the Tic Toc crap, get hell off my Lawn Sean Hannity….. Hannity a Loser. Go start a Drywall hanging Biz with Barr & Durham Hannity! & you should cut Jeff Sessions in on the deal. LOL;)
At this point I don’t think AG Barr or Durham are going to bring a damn case against anyone of those corrupt bast*ds in the DOJ/FBI/FISA.
I watched a Lou Dobbs show last night, I think it was a rerun of the Sunday show, there’s been plenty of proof against those American hating Aholes like Obama, Hillary, Comey, McCabe, 4 Fed FISA Judges, CJ Roberts, etc. ……
At least 17 lies on 4 FISA warrants that the judges should have flagged.
DOJ has had 4 ph’in years to bring charges & there’s nothing.
Kill their budgets, fire everyone of them & bring in the Bulldozers for the buildings as they are worst then worthless now.
I don’t think Alan would say this without being able to back it up. For instance, it appears Guiliani has started turning over his Ukraine materials to the DoJ.
I guess you are as stupid as you seem. BTW, are your children genetically burdened by your hubris and incompetence?
So if he proves to be telling the truth will you apologize for damning him here? You try very hard to hide your biases but you are someone who inflames the crazies to attack the Republican voter registration tents. Your love of Hillary and hate for Trump is thinly veiled. Dershowitz is obviously someone you feel a strong need to discredit because he differs with your interpretations of law. I do not hear him talking about you in the same tone.
You say it’s flimsy yet plant the seed with an article
Brilliant right? it is Clintonesque!!
lmao