Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has joined other critics of President Donald Trump in denouncing what she sees as racist language being used to “distract” the public. She is referring to Trump’s reference to the “Chinese virus.” The reference to the origin of the virus is fairly common and it is hard to see how such a reference “distracts” anyone from any aspect of the pandemic. China does appear to have failed to immediately notify the world of the virus or share accurate information in the early critical period. The response of China this week was to throw out reporters from leading media organizations for reporting on the origin and spread of the virus in China. Two Chinese experts referred to this as the “Wuhan virus” until they were pressured to take down their column. Now, it appears that others want all reference to the origins barred as an act of racism.
Clinton tweeted that “The president is turning to racist rhetoric to distract from his failures to take the coronavirus seriously early on, make tests widely available, and adequately prepare the country for a period of crisis. Don’t fall for it. Don’t let your friends and family fall for it.”
Fall for what, precisely? How would referring to the origin of the virus excuse any early failures?
Trump has defended the reference and made specific mention of the claim by a high-ranking official that the virus may have been a bio-weapon designed and released by the U.S. military — a preposterous allegation. Again, as China expels reporters and spreads this conspiracy theory, the origin of the virus is a matter of discussion. I personally do not use the term “Chinese virus” because that seems inaccurate and not based on the recognized scientific terminology. I also agree that it seems gratuitous and may increase the ridiculous and horrible attacks on Asians by unhinged individuals. However, the term was used by many scientists and experts in the early days. If “Chinese virus” or “Wuhan virus” racist, how about the continued use of the “Spanish flu” which was always based on a misconception of the origin?
What I cannot see is how this controversy is part of, to paraphrase an earlier Clinton expression, a “vast right-wing conspiracy” to distract people from early failures. The respected Dr. Anthony Fauci has repeatedly said that Trump was not responsible for the lack of testing kits or the delay. The Administration is holding daily pressers with the President with instructions, and increasingly tough measures, for preparation. That does not seem to fit with Clinton’s warning for people not to be lulled by Trump in failing to prepare.
What I do see is a raw politicalization of the crisis to suggest a racist conspiracy without acknowledging the extensive measures already enacted to combat the virus. There is no question that Trump offered reckless and inaccurate statements in the early days of the crisis, as noted even by some conservative sites. However, I am not sure what still can be done further or if enough was done fast enough. Fauci did not believe that there was a failure at the policy level, but the jury will be out until after this crisis and a full review is possible. However, this narrative seems more driven by politics.
She’s a snake. She’s a snake!
She’s a snake all the way!
From her first husband Bill..
To her last whining day!
Using just the figures from Washington state, where COVID -19 has been particularly deadly, this flu season has been 1.6 times as deadly and automobiles about 4.25 times as deadly.
I opine that the response is disproportionate.
— David B Benson
Two months ago, January 20, 2020 – a date which will live in infamy – the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by the Communist People’s Republic of China.
The United States was at peace with that nation and, wittingly or unwittingly, through criminal dereliction and negligence and attempting to obtain the cloak of plausible deniability, the People’s Republic of China released on the world the COVID-19 biological weapon.
China has, therefore, undertaken a surprise offensive extending throughout the World. The Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy has directed his entire Cabinet that all measures be taken for the defense of the United States.
With confidence in the United States Center For Disease Control and with the unbounding determination of the American people the Untied States will gain the inevitable triumph so help us God.
Congress must declare that since the unprovoked and dastardly attack by China on January 20, 2020, a state of war has existed between the United States and the People’s Republic of China.
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has joined other critics of President Donald Trump in denouncing what she sees as racist language being used to “distract” the public. She is referring to Trump’s reference to the “Chinese virus.”
Hillary Clinton (etal) is pathetic.
Squeeky Fromm, maybe instead Mayor Young needs to exort them to aim better.
— David B Benson
Anyway, that’s what I thought you were thinking but didn’t dare write?
No, actually I wasn’t. What I did wonder about was his term “senseless shootings” – which made me consider whether shootings that made sense were OK. Like maybe shooting somebody over a chicken sandwich, or a pair of new Jordans, would be permissible.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Liberty 2nd — I try by immediately averting my gaze.
— David B Benson
Since laughter is the best medicine — after you’ve had real medicine — I offer the following catchy tune”
Karen S, as I have posted about twice before, it is the only way I can comment on this site using my mobile device. The defect is in the formatter and it’s inability to recognize my WordPress account.
— David B Benson
The worst virus on the world is Hillary Corona Clinton. Stay away from and do NOT look at her picture.
You can call it the OLLYSoCalCPO2020 virus, if that will stop the imbecilic proliferation of Chinese propaganda.
The idiots here who keep saying the administration was slow in addressing the situation seem not to recall the timeline.
CHINA acknowledged that the virus existed in late December of 2019. What was happening in late 2019 and early 2020? Let’s see………..oh yeah, the Democrats were busy impeaching the president and the Senate was tied up with the trial.
Now, what would the screams have been from the usual suspects in the media and our local idiots personified by bythebook if the administration had talked about the virus?
TRUMP USES VIRUS TO DISTRACT FROM IMPEACHMENT
And when he banned flights from China in January, what was the response?
TRUMP IMPOSES RACIST TRAVEL BAN
As for Hillary, unless Biden implodes, her only chance is the VP slot —- but I don’t think political suicide is what Biden has in mind.
Natacha — Wrong. The virus is a coronavirus named SARS-CoV-2 and causes the disease called COVID -19.
— David B Benson
Benson – why post anonymously and then sign your name. Why are you no longer posting under your name?
Karen S — On the contrary, the problem is Chinese culture with its live animal markets and the quirks of traditional Chinese medicine which includes parts from rare creatures.
— David B Benson
that’s right Benson, it was a factor in sars. the CCP for all its many many faults, tried to stamp out these bizarre culinary practices based on TCM and was successful to a degree, but it wore off and old bad habits returned.
Chinese people and people who’ve lived there know this.
It’s one of the few good things i can say about the Communist party that they tried to rectify these backwards beliefs about eating disgusting animals.
However, overall, the CCP is bad.Bad for Chinese and bad for the US. They are certainly encouraging the US mass media to jump on the “Racist” bandwagon. This is an irony considering they have no regard for Uighurs or various other ethnic minorities in the PRC. Hypocrites, who pursue nakedly ethnocentric policies in favor of the Han people. Now i don’t normally get too exercised over that, but, if they are going to be attacking Trump, then they need to look to their own behavior.
Attacking Trump along this trivial line is an irrelevant distraction to everything else. It will also backfire and enflame the US population against China more, which overall, is not a good thing
The Chinese people are a blessing for humanity overall, in spite of the PRC government, and not because of it.
There is so much stupidity out there now I can barely bother to try and rectify any of it anymore.
Meanwhile, those Zany Negroes. . .
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Baltimore Mayor Begs Residents To Stop Shooting Each Other So Hospital Beds Can Be Used For Coronavirus Patients
BALTIMORE (WJZ) — Baltimore Mayor Jack Young urged residents to put down their guns and heed orders to stay home after multiple people were shot Tuesday night amidst the coronavirus pandemic.
Young said hospital beds are needed to treat positive COVID-19 patients and not for senseless violence. Seven people were shot Tuesday night in the Madison Park neighborhood, as Baltimore reported its fifth positive coronavirus case Wednesday.
“I want to reiterate how completely unacceptable the level of violence is that we have seen recently,” Young said. “We will not stand for mass shootings and an increase in crime.”
“For those of you who want to continue to shoot and kill people of this city, we’re not going to tolerate it,” Young implored. “We’re going to come after you and we’re going to get you.”
He urged people to put down their guns because “we cannot clog up our hospitals and their beds with people that are being shot senselessly because we’re going to need those beds for people infected with the coronavirus. And it could be your mother, your grandmother or one of your relatives. So take that into consideration.”
https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2020/03/18/we-need-those-beds-baltimore-mayor-urges-people-to-put-down-guns-after-violence-continues-during-covid-19-pandemic/
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ROTFLMAO! You just can’t make this stuff up.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Africans in America are all illegal aliens.
On the date of issuance of the Emancipation Proclamation, the Naturalization Act of 1802 was in full force and effect requiring citizens to be “…free white person(s).” Freed slaves were in violation of the Act and their status changed from that of “property” to “illegal alien” requiring immediate deportation.
Since Abraham Lincoln persisted in office in violation of the Constitution, including his denial of Southern secession and suspension of Habeas Corpus in a condition of secession not rebellion, none of his acts or the acts of his successors were legal or constitutional, including the improperly ratified and unconstitutional “Reconstruction Amendments.”
Africans in America were and are illegal aliens requiring deportation and compassionate repatriation.
Karen S, the influenza epidemic of 1918–1919 was named after the first country to report it. The so-called Spanish flu is thought to have originated in the western US.
So it was named for its first reported patient zero. That is also common. Was that racist against Spain? No.
Karen, other than defending “he who must blame others”, why are you doing this exercise in stupidity?
CORONAVIRUS
Everyone will know what you mean and no one will go to Chinatown with baseball bats.
KAREN’S POST FROM MONDAY:
Other churches use individual cups. There is no reason the Catholic Church cannot follow suit. It was a fairly recent addition to the mass. If some churches suspend the cup during the Covid-19 outbreak, then they admit the cup may transmit contagion, and should stop using it altogether, changing to individual cups. And drinking the dregs from the community chalice is a health hazard.
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Just 2 days ago, Karen was referring to the virus as Covid-19, a very clinical term. Yet today Karen thinks “China Virus” is perfectly correct. Which goes to show that Trumpers follow Trump’s lead.
Natasha, COVID -19 is the name of the Disease.
COVID-19 is how the virus itself is identified by scientists. I explain below what it means.
That Mean Ol’ Trump! Now he has suspended all mortgage foreclosures and home evictions!
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Hopefully, a link:
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1240312163195125765/photo/1
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
OK, here is another. Lookie at the title! Chinese Virus! and its from Bloomberg!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WVmthHuLwA
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
“Chinese virus” does not mean that it affects Chinese people. The naming convention for common name is the origin – animal or location. Spanish flu. German measles. Middle East Respiratory Syndrome. Swine Flu. Avian Flu.
China is in damage control. It arrested 8 of its own doctors who tried to warn us. An opthalmologist released a viral video from his hospital bed, and was arrested for disturbing the social order. He later died. It originated in Wuhan, in workers of a live exotic animal meat market. China had been warned for years that these markets were unhygienic, spurred poaching, and spread disease. But they pushed back that it was their culture, and they would not listen to criticism. The other possible origin is the BSL4 lab. No matter where the virus originated, patient zero was in Wuhan. I don’t blame a country just for starting an outbreak. For instance, I don’t blame Africans for Ebola. But I do sharply criticize China for arresting first responders sounding an alarm, and for those live animal markets. The entire planet is paying the price because the communist dictatorship of China caused a 2 month delay.
The problem is not the Chine people, but rather the Chinese government.
Chinese-Americans are Americans, just like us. We are all in this together.
Pretending that calling attention to the origin of this virus is racist or unfair is a PR campaign spread by a dictatorship to deflect criticism. Do not do the dirty work of a communist dictatorship. Criticize them loud and proud.
Karen, the problem is the coronavirus and the only advantage in calling it the Chinese virus is to our selfish lying racist president who has also blamed Obama and Europe.
Aren’t you sick of this fool yet? What is wrong with you?
Bythebook – are all these others racist or bigoted, too?
Spanish flu
German measles
Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS)
Lassa fever (from Lassa Nigeria)
Crimean-Congohaemorrhagic fever
Legionaire’s Disease
Avian Flu
Swine Flu
Possum fever
There are many common names for the virus. In fact, China itself used to refer to it as the Wuhan virus. The name of the virus is SARS-CoV-2. The name of the disease is Covid-19.
China is doing damage control. It arrested 8 doctors who sounded the alarm. The ophthalmologist was arrested for disturbing the social order. It lied and abused first responders. That created a 2 month delay that the globe is suffering for. It was warned that those live exotic animal markets were unhygienic, spread disease, and encouraged poaching. It claimed that such criticism was racist against Chinese or insulted their culture. Now China is trying to save face with its furious people and the globe by spreading absurd stories that this was a US bioweapon, or that calling it the Wuhan virus or Chinese virus is racist. It even claims that the proper name for the virus is unfair because it emphasizes its genetic relationship to SARS, another Chinese origin virus.
That’s ridiculous. So many diseases are named for their location or vector of origin. It is not insult to the people therein.
Stop doing the dirty work of a communist dictatorship. China deserves sharp criticism. Calling a virus by its origin has been commonplace for many years, and is not racist.
Karen, probably at least half of them are. No doubt you’ve heard of German cockroaches too. They’re from SE Asia.
“Trump flu” isn’t racist, so how about that?
“Trump flu” isn’t racist, so how about that?
It would be more accurate to name it after Patient 0: HRC2016. Symptoms are somewhat named after the President: Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Here you go again, Jon, stretching the facts to pander to the Fox News crowd. The part of the story you left out are the documented instances of attacks against Chinese Americans since this pandemic was identified– a backlash against persons of Chinese ancestry because of this virus. A viral pandemic has been anticipated for years–not a matter of “if”, but “when”. Well, the “when” is now. This virus may have first been documented in China, but it affects humans all over the world. The correct name for this virus is COVID-19–“co” for “corona” “vi” for virus (don’t know what the “D” means–maybe some genetic subtype designation) and “19” for the year it was first manifest.
It is incorrect for Trump to keep calling this the “Chinese virus”, which you claim is a common means of identifying it. I read and watch news shows a lot, and I’ve never heard anyone other than Trump call it the “Chinese virus”. Trump is a known racist and is known to be frustrated because his efforts to bully China haven’t worked. He also is known to lash out against anyone or anything he thinks doesn’t kiss his plus-sized ass. Not so long ago, he used to brag and bluster about how he was going to control China–force it to purchase more American goods, punish it with tariffs. This crisis has exposed him as the incompetent narcissist some of us have always known he is.
As to Dr. Fauci, everyone on this planet knows that if you don’t praise der fuerher, you get the axe. I can’t wait for his book after this is all over. Trump did dismantle the rapid response team, which would have given us a head-start on this crisis. Trump did refuse tests from the WHO, and has tried to bluff and lie his way out of this mess, which has just made things worse. Response to this crisis has been excruciatingly slow, exacerbated by Trump’s lies, ineptitude, lack of vision, lack of leadership and our general lack of preparedness, all of which he bears blame for.
Turley says: “Fall for what, precisely? How would referring to the origin of the virus excuse any early failures?” Trump wasn’t referring to the origin of the virus by INTENTIONALLY MIS-NAMING IT–he was trying to shift blame onto China and away from the magnitude of his failures, as Secretary Clinton explained.
Natacha – when covid-19 first bombed out Europe, for a while, any Chinese person in Europe who coughed frightened people. They encountered fear and mistrust all around the world.
If some terrible Ebola like plague broke out in Australia, then anyone with an Aussie accent who coughed, or talked about recently visiting Australia, would encounter something similar.
Right now, if anyone, of any ethnicity, tells me they just got back from Italy, France, Asia, or NY, I’m going to take a big step back. The other day I was shopping in Trader Joe’s, and a woman started hacking and coughing, without covering her mouth. Everyone in a 20 foot radius sucked back.
I have asthma. I don’t want to get covid-19. I don’t want my family to get it. I don’t want anyone to get it. With that in mind, if someone is deemed a risk factor, the natural response is to step away. There are billions of people in the world. Some of them are jerks. Those people might take it a step further and be abusive towards someone they think is an infection risk.
The reality is that covid-19 is global. God help Africa, India, and North Korea. I think they are the least able to deal with the pandemic. Now that it’s spread, anyone can be a carrier or sick.
And, a common name is not misnaming a virus. SARS-CoV-2 is a mouthful. Speaking of common names, you often refer to Turley by a nickname. Is this a way to pretend that you’re friends?
Names for Covid-19 used during the past few months:
1. Wuhan virus (used by those inside China, too)
2. Wuhan Coronavirus
3. China Coronavirus
4. 2019-nCoV
5. Covid-19
6. SARS-CoV-2
7. Covid-19 virus
International Committee on Taxonomy of Viruses has named the virus SARS-CoV-2 which causes the disease covid-19. China objects to the name SARS-CoV-2 because it emphasizes its genetic relationship to SARS, another Chinese origin virus.
Co – corona
Vi – virus
SARS – severe acute respiratory disease (Covid-19 is related)
Perhaps we could more easily avoid the confusion Karen thinks we are otherwise going to experience – big problem no doubt – let’s call it the Trump flu. No one will forget and the lettering can be gold leaf and copywrighted.
Bythebook – but it’s not the Trump flu. He was not the origin, nor patient zero. Clear the fog of political partisanship for a moment and pay attention.
Karen, it’s whatever we decide to call it and it’s origin no more logical than he who has been the most willfully damaging to a concerted effort to limit it’s spread.
You understand that people of Chinese origin – many of them Americans – feel stigmatized by this, just as you would if it was the California Catholic flu.
Just stop. He is not worth defending.
It’s the Xi Flu!! 🤣
You guys suddenly care so much about Chinese Americans! Ha ha what a fake ploy this is. Do you think they are so stupid they believe it? maybe the rah rahs on board on the Dem party payroll but sorry that’s not all of them, welcome to diversity! Chinese people are not all just Democrat quislings.
Everybody can see through this. We know this “attack trump as racist” thing is old hat. It is certainly not about helping Chinese Americans. You guys are just playing politics at a dangerous time.
The funny thing is that the political circus that is party politics in America, sometimes makes the CCP look very smart by comparison!
Natacha, almost everything you spew is a lie, a falsehood, a Democrat talking point. Unbelievable.