Is This The [New] Greatest Generation?

Below is my column in The Hill on how the pandemic has brought about a generational shift on the front line effort against this virus. After years of being maligned, millennials and Gen Z members are stepping forward in a way that creates their own “greatest” generational story.

This is not an easy Passover and Easter for the people celebrating those holidays in the midst of a pandemic. My family celebrates both given our mixed Jewish Catholic marriage. At both dinners, one chair will be empty. Our eldest son Benjamin is a premedicine student at George Washington University and working at the only psychiatric hospital in the district as a psychiatric counselor. With the coronavirus raging in the area, and many patients coming from the homeless population, Benjamin does not want to risk transmission to the family, so we have not seen him for weeks.

It is a scene being played out across the country. But it also serves as a reminder of a generation shift worthy of note. Those people on the front lines of this pandemic are members of the much maligned generations of millennials and Gen Z. They have been stepping forward by the thousands to answer a call in what may be their finest moment. However, when Bruce Aylward, a senior adviser at the World Health Organization, was asked of his greatest concerns, two groups were highlighted for two very different reasons. First were older individuals who remain the primary vulnerable victims of the coronavirus. Second were “millennials” often blamed for spreading the disease or failing to take the threat more seriously.

It is a widely stated view, often using sweeping references to the multiple generations as millennials. A Fox News medical expert objected to “these millennials and these younger generations” spreading the disease. Even Deborah Birx of the White House Coronavirus Task Force herself called on this group to stop “socializing in large groups” to curb the infection. It is during a crisis that generations can be deified or demonized. World War Two defined what Tom Brokaw called the Greatest Generation in his 1998 book of the same name. He not only explained why that cohort was our Greatest Generation but noted that a “common lament of the World War Two generation is the absence today of personal responsibility.”

As my students often love to point out, “millennial” is a term that is widely misused by my generation. By standard definitions, many millennials are now entering their 30s and 40s. They are not those kids on spring break blissfully ignoring public health warnings while blatantly proclaiming, “If I get corona, I get corona.” The fact is that even the younger generations are being misrepresented by an errant few. Many young people had read the reports that they were not at high risk of lethality, which remains the case right now. Most did not see the risk to their parents or grandparents, a danger that became far more clear as spring break was ending.

Indeed, the Greatest Generation was a title bestowed with hindsight. After all, while it is true they prevailed in World War Two, other members of that cohort started World War Two. Yet if you look at the faces of courageous hospital workers, first responders, and others in the news today, you are looking at the faces of millennials who have not only showed “personal responsibility” but assumed public responsibility for others in this fight against a deadly invisible enemy. Many did so without proper protective equipment, and many have already gotten sick in the process. Once they are done battling the pandemic, they will be left to deal with trillions of dollars in debt, climate change, and rising international instability.

Obviously, on a holiday like Passover that celebrates the sparing of a first born son, there is added meaning at a time when thousands of our own children are working in essential public health and safety sectors during this pandemic. Our pride in the decision of our son Benjamin to continue to work with psychiatric patients is mixed with continued anxiety about his situation. The reality is that the Greatest Generation is being attended to by members of millennials, Gen X, and even Gen Z. These people are glued to hospital monitors, not Game Boys or Nintendo Switches.

So could they be the new Greatest Generation? Rather than playing beer pong on South Padre Island, these young people are showing up to the front lines, some wearing garbage bags rather than personal protective equipment, to hold the line against one of the most contagious diseases in history. I wish Baby Boomers could take credit for raising them so well. However, I have my doubts. These are the kids we protected against every challenge that traditionally makes for a great generation. We gave them all trophies and declared them all to be brilliant. We removed every obstacle as we hovered above them like helicopter parents. It is astonishing they could even leave the house when many of us were done with them.

To make matters worse, we then cleared a path of accommodation for them in the workplace. In both government and business, older workers were trained how to deal with millennials. This is what is called “reverse mentoring” in which older workers are shadowed by a millennial to teach them how to speak and interact with younger workers. One professional friend was corrected by her mentoring millennial because she failed to compliment a younger worker who brought her document copies.

I asked my class about this image of millennials as very sensitive, trophy demanding, and high maintenance. Certainly, these reverse mentoring programs often seem to be essentially anthropological in character, like training explorers to deal with some inscrutable remote tribe. One of my students responded to my question by asking, “What generation do you think gave us all those participating trophies?” My students universally expressed contempt for the clear insistence of Baby Boomers on making everyone a winner and giving awards for simply showing up. They said it destroyed any value of working hard toward victory. They said they threw out those trophies. Now these same millennials are showing up despite the risk to their own lives, ventilating and feeding my generation.

I was born in 1961, the year President Kennedy famously declared during his inaugural address, “Let the word go forth from this time and place, to friend and foe alike, that the torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans, born in this century, tempered by war, disciplined by a hard and bitter peace.” Baby Boomers have always adored that image of their generation. But we now have recognized that, perhaps despite our best efforts, a new generation has come of age, tempered by adversity and being disciplined by a hard and bitter pandemic. There is no trophy for that. Just thousands of Baby Boomers kept alive thanks to them.

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. You can find his updates online @JonathanTurley.

141 thoughts on “Is This The [New] Greatest Generation?”

  1. Trump is avoiding responsibility and the result is chaos.

    Today’s WaPO:

    ““We’re doing what everyone else is doing,” Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine (R) said in an interview. “You’ve got 50 states and the federal government all chasing the same companies. It’s crazy.”

    …..some governors and lawmakers have watched in disbelief as they have sought to close deals on precious supplies, only to have the federal government swoop in to preempt the arrangements.

    Officials in one state are so worried about this possibility that they are considering dispatching local police or even the National Guard to greet two chartered FedEx planes scheduled to arrive in the next week with millions of masks from China, according to people familiar with the planning. These people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, asked that their state not be identified to avoid flagging federal officials to their shipment.

    As the Trump administration assumes what the president has called a “backup” role in distributing supplies to fight the pandemic, state governments are taking extraordinary — and often unorthodox — steps to compete in an increasingly cutthroat global marketplace.

    The result is a patchwork and often chaotic scramble for goods, pitting states against each other and, often, against other countries or even the U.S. government.

    Soaring prices have left states at times to pay up to 10 times the normal prices for certain goods, according to officials from multiple states, eating away at cash reserves and laying the foundation for a fiscal crunch that several governors believe will require federal bailouts. Windfalls, so far, go largely to foreign companies that make the equipment along with third-party brokers that often help connect states with manufacturers and then get a cut, according to state officials and business people.

    Worried about losing potential deals, state governments have tossed aside long-standing purchasing rules about how to spend taxpayer money, offering funds up front for equipment before it disappears. Governors and top aides are spending hours on the phone, hunting for friends, relatives of aides or other personal connections that might give them an edge. Teams of senior state aides — who in normal times oversee issues such as climate change and health policy — sit in conference rooms and bid all day.

    The frenzy invites the potential for fraud, according to several aides to governors, with officials in New Jersey, Illinois, Massachusetts, Connecticut and Washington state all saying they have been inundated with pitches from likely scam artists.

    Help from the federal government is inconsistent, with some governors having luck working with their regional directors from the Federal Emergency Management Agency, others finding an in with Jared Kushner, a White House adviser and the president’s son-in-law, and some appealing directly to President Trump.

    Some governors are directing blame at the federal government, which has taken only partial control of the supply chain, dictating how certain supplies are allocated while standing by as a bidding war ensues over the rest.

    “If I was going to draw a model, I think that our national response should look a lot more like a national response to World War II and less like the Balkans,” said Washington Gov. Jay Inslee (D), whose state saw the initial outbreak.

    This account of the worldwide scramble by governors and their administrations to locate the supplies they need to protect their residents and health-care workers amid a public health crisis unlike any other in modern history is based on interviews with 48 state, local and federal officials and business leaders involved with the response, as well as a review of procurement records and public statements by officials….

    “You have literally everyone in the world competing for all the same manufacturers right now,” New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu (R) told WMUR-TV. “A small municipality in France is competing with the state of New Hampshire, which is competing with the country of Mexico and the United States for these exact same items.” Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson (R) told NBC this month that it “literally is a global jungle that we’re competing in now.”….”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/as-feds-play-backup-states-take-unorthodox-steps-to-compete-in-cutthroat-global-market-for-coronavirus-supplies/2020/04/11/609b5d84-7a70-11ea-a130-df573469f094_story.html

  2. American debt to China is $1.1 trillion (USD).

    Damages for the preemptive, germ-warfare attack and “first strike” of World War III by China begin at the level of the U.S. unilaterally

    freezing its $1.1 trillion debt to China and being increased proportionally at future dates.

    Willful dereliction and negligence in food production or other practices are alternative causes of the current “Wuhan Flu” and the

    “Spanish Flu” of 1918.

    China is an indefensible and reprehensible repeat offender or military aggressor which may no longer act with impunity.

    This is war or a reasonable facsimile.

  3. The contrived pre-election liberal tactic, the “Pandemic Panic and Melodrama of 2020,” takes place in the theater of the absurd – the virus is inescapable and will kill a percentage of the population no matter what measures are taken by homo sapiens – bank on it – emoting pity is not a solution to anything.

  4. Coronavirus: Elderly Europeans Denied Treatment
    by Soeren Kern
    April 11, 2020 at 5:00 am

    In addition to the ethical questions raised by the rationing of healthcare according to age, the denial of medical attention to the elderly, many of whom have paid into the social welfare system all their lives, also casts a spotlight on the shortcomings of socialized medicine in Southern Europe, where austerity measures imposed by the European Central Bank have resulted in massive budget cuts for public healthcare.

    In documents leaked to several Spanish media, the Catalan Emergency Medical Service (Servicio de Emergencias Médicas) instructed doctors, nurses and ambulance personnel to inform the families of older patients suffering from coronavirus that “death at home is the best option.” … The protocol also advised medical personnel to avoid referring to the lack of hospital beds in Catalonia.

    “My father started working at the age of 14 until he was 65. He never asked for anything. On March 18, he needed a respirator to avoid dying and was denied…. This is the Spain we have. My father’s generation built this country, its reservoirs, roads, agriculture, working 14 hours a day, coming out of a postwar period. And they are being left to die.” — Óscar Haro, YouTube video, March 20, 2020.

    In November 2019, two months before the coronavirus first appeared in Spain, the Spanish government revealed that nearly 700,000 patients were on a waiting list for surgeries. Nationwide, patients had to wait on average 115 days to receive surgery; in Catalonia, patients had to wait nearly six months; in Madrid patients had to wait for six weeks.

    The severity of the coronavirus crisis in Italy and Spain, where elderly patients are being allowed to die for the benefit of the young, is due in large measure to the austerity measures associated with their membership in the eurozone. The large numbers of dead, especially among the elderly, appears to be the price that Italians and Spaniards are paying to be part of a monetary union which they never should have joined.

    ….”In November 2019, two months before the coronavirus first appeared in Spain, the Spanish government revealed that nearly 700,000 patients were on a waiting list for surgeries.”

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/15870/coronavirus-elderly-abandoned

  5. Greatest Generation? Are you kidding?

    The Gen Zs refuse to curb their social activities, uncaring if they kill their parents, grandparents, relatives, neighbors, strangers. They are so coddled that they feel entitled. They don’t know what to do. It’s their parents freezing casseroles for them. They aren’t calling the old folks in their neighborhood to see if they need anything, or to mow their lawns. They don’t even know the neighbors.

    The Millennials are the ones who still think they are young enough to be safe. They clamor to go back to work, vacation, socializing. Uncaring if they hurt their parents, grandparents, relatives, neighbors, strangers. They don’t have any reserve food or supplies stored. They buy every last roll of toilet paper, if they have to elbow a granny to get it. They think of themselves, not others.

    We are seeing a very ugly consequence of raising kids to be entitled. They think the world revolves around them. Do you think that the same people who view opposing opinions as “hate speech” to be shut down with violence will suddenly care about their neighbors? Go out of their way for them? They were raised to hate America, and Homo sapiens. These are the people who feel safe from Covid-19, and therefore express satisfaction that a portion of humanity is getting purged. They wish harm on Trump voters, Southerners, white men, etc. The dark side of identity politics is wishing harm on those born on the wrong end of the sliding scale of value. They Tweet about how good for the planet a reduction in population is. We are all enjoying cleaner air because there are less cars on the road, and more factories are closed. The human-haters go beyond that. They view humanity as a pestilence. They are taking unhealthy satisfaction in this plague.

    There is no “Greatest Generation”. There are Great Role Models.

    *The doctors who rent an apartment together so they can keep working, while keeping their own spouses and children safe. They give up the precious little time they had with their families, taking on the risk of a very serious illness. My own pulmonary doctor is very sick right now.
    *The gardeners who make up bags of produce and fruit and take them to neighbors and those in need.
    *Those who find out who in their neighborhood needs help. There have been calls out in my area to organize a buddy system for seniors. People are assigned to stay in contact with an elderly person, make sure they have all they need, and check to make sure they are OK.
    *The homesteaders – a loose term that applies to those who sew, can, freeze, garden, raise poultry and meat, hunt, fish…They provide food for themselves and others. They teach others how to preserve food. Lots of people are sharing how to make big batches of soup, casseroles, and roasts to put up.
    *Police, fire fighters, and other first responders who keep going to work, knowing it may get them sick, possibly kill them. But they keep showing up. I am chilled to think of fire season. We have had a lot of rain here in CA. That will mean brush during our arid months, just in time for the peak number of our fire fighters to be out sick.
    *Teachers and professors who work hard to help students continue their education online.
    *Parents who suddenly find themselves homeschooling, and trying to keep their kids occupied, active, and still give them some sunshine.

    1. Karen, I don’t think I am your normal Gen Y or normal generally-speaking for that matter. Hah, a true statement.

      Every time I go shopping, I call my folks, and sometimes I have asked if either one of my siblings need anything to give to my parents to give to them. I always, always ask my ex-bf mom, who I live with for now, if she needs anything. Sometimes I get her stuff too, sometimes she declines.

      We had neighbors drop off some restaurant food here since the restaurant officially closed for the rest of the pandemic. I immediately offered it to my folks/mentally ill brother and the elderly neighbor in the back of the building.

      Not all Gen Y is bad. Some, yes.

      I will say both my brothers are Gen Y. One is incapacitated and cannot help himself, let alone anyone else. If he does his laundry and doesn’t stink, it is a #win.

      Now, the other sane brother, he has not called or offered anything to me, or his/our parents. He recently asked our parents to bring him TP. I offered to bring TP to parents to give to him. Lol. This is bc I don’t want him forcing them to go to the store for him. It is ridiculous. Haha. I’m sidetracking here, but that sane brother is the “Golden Child.”. He is also Gen Y, and he complained to me on phone about having to work from home on his computer. 😆 lol. I told him that he is lucky to still have a job and getting paid. He said Whatever.

      So, you can see, in my family alone, 2 Gen Y, and 2 very differenr mentality.

      Now, agreeing with you, I have seen some Gen Y and Gen Z in my building throwing a party. So, some are inconsiderate.

      But I also heard of some Gen X throwing CV19 party. And they’re 40-50s.

      So, idk. It is a toss up.

        1. Paul – I didn’t say read the book, just page 122, as a cite for what I wrote.

          I have no idea what is in that book, found it on Google Books last night.

          That means you read 62 pages more than me.

          Ay, chihuahua! 🤓

                1. WW33 – I have not been reading in the areas you are reading in. I have recommendations in other areas. 😉

                  1. Paul – Alrighty then. What other areas?

                    Anon below tossed a few suggestions.

                    1. WW33 – here are some I am currently reading or have read.
                      Enemies: A History of the FBI – Tim Weiner
                      American Heritage History of the United States – Douglas Brinkley
                      William Tecumseh Sherman – James L. McDonough
                      Germany: A History – Francis Russell
                      America’s First Civilization – Michael D. Coe
                      Bunker Hill – Nathaniel Philbrick
                      The Woman Who Smashed Codes – Jason Fagone

                2. Stephen Kinzer. Poisoner in Chief: Sidney Gottlieb and the CIA Search for Mind Control. New York: Henry Holt and Co., 2019. 368 pp. $30.00 (cloth), ISBN 978-1-250-14043-2.

                  OCTOBER 3, 2019

                  Poisoner in Chief

                  “Stephen Kinzer talked about his book, Poisoner in Chief: Sidney Gottlieb and the CIA Search for Mind Control, on the work of Sidney Gottlieb (1918-1999), the head of the CIA’s MK-ULTRA mind control program that was dissolved in the mid-1970s.”

                  https://www.c-span.org/video/?464648-1/poisoner-chief

                  1. @WW33

                    A book recommendation for you @ 12:28. And here’s a trailer for a documentary that is available to rent via Amazon.

                    Cold Case Hammarskjöld – Official Trailer

                    1. Anon – this looks good too, the documentary. I’ll check it out.

                      There was another plane that went down. Had some engineers on it, a bunch of them. Idk, can’t remember, might have been Malaysian flight. Or maybe not.

                  2. Anon – Thanks for the suggestion. I think I have joked around on here in the past about MK Ultra, so this should be interesting to read.

                    It is funny when in lockdown, reading goes up. Well, for some folks.

                1. World War Thirty-Three,

                  try “Crimes and Cover-Ups in American Politics,” Donald Jeffries

                  And then go have some babies, K?

                  1. George – Does my dog count as a baby? Hah. I am kidding. Like a baby. 😉

                    I’ll check it out. Thanks for the suggestion. I have a few to entertain, until May 15th.

                2. Paul – Ah, weird, why didn’t mine? Idk, you can never be so sure with any technology…I think I’ll just go back to a flip phone.

    2. Karen S:
      Kids don’t buy the breathless “we’re all gonna die” hype. Good for them.” This “pandemic“ will be shown for the globalist fraud it is. It’ll just take some time.

      1. Mespo.

        As a first responder in upstate NY, Local VFD, I still am yet to know someone personally who has gotten the virus. In fact I do not even know someone who knows someone who has it. I’ve reached out to my friend still in CA who works for the gas company and he doesn’t know anyone either. The only thing this crisis has done is wreaked havoc on peoples finances. I know plenty of those people, including me. I lost employment last Friday. How many deaths are being caused by this? Honestly, I think this has been around longer than we knew. Months ago, several of us at the fire dept came down with a strange dry cough and no one knew what it was. Seems to me, we should have just said to be smart around our elderly.

        1. Jim22 – there are some people who are positing the virus has been here since November, just not identified.

          1. Of course people get sick from virus’s all the time so one has to be careful in linking Covid with illness that could be caused by other viruses.

            1. Allan – if we agree that the ChiCom virus started in Nov in China, or was at least identified then, then there is no reason to believe in the age of immediate travel of the virus no entering the US in November. Could it be something else? Of course.

              1. Paul, we would need antibody testing to be sure. A lot of these cases have no relationship to one another so if a number of them were actually Covid we would have likely seen more in that area but we didn’t until a considerable time later. Is it possible? Of course but too much is possible and I find it better to narrow things down.

                A bit of information:
                Wuhan lab had a job opening Nov 18 having to do with the relationship of the coronavirus and bats. Another advertisement appeared Dec.24 looking for people to research a new and terrible virus. A researcher there, Huang Yan Ling, suddenly disappeared and many consider her patient zero and believe she is dead. Her name was wiped out from the Wuhan lab website.

                The lead researcher at that lab, Zhengli Shi, wrote 3 articles on how bats can transmit coronavirus to humans.

                1. Allan – but, but, but, according to WHO, it cannot be transmitted human to human. #BeliveWHO

                  1. Paul when you say WHO I think of Hu. Then I think of Biden WHO has dealt with Hu thru Xi and then I think of:

        2. Jim 22, can you tell us the date span of the cough?

          I think we were not prepared as we are supposed to be. I read that the hospitals had been surveyed not that long ago and stated they were prepared but it turns out from one article that 85% were not. State supplies at least in some areas were knowingly lower than recommended. NY in particular was told to buy almost 16,000 ventillators in 2015 and didn’t do so. Federal stocks of supply was not up to need. The supply chain for the necessary PPE came from China and we could not quickly ramp up our own and we couldn’t depend on China. Our testing kits were inadequate. I am not sure that the CDC has been pushing forward to protect us from such calamities.

          Add to that the political left that has been at war with the Republican President and a bureaucracy under the former Democratic President that had been weaponized against the right. Then add a MSM that no longer was doing its job rather was acting as a Democratic shill. The President has been under attack since before he took over the government. He was under impeachment during the time the country needed clarity. The left took any position that opposed the President so when he closed certain airline travel and later imposed the Chinese Travel Ban the left called him racist and all sorts of names. Then the left didn’t cooperate in doing things to lessen the transmission of disease even encouraging celebrations where large numbers of people came in close contact and then could spread the disease all over the country.

          Add to all that and look at an enemy, China, who likely was responsible for what happened and lied to the world. The question is was the transmission of this disease intentional? I doubt. Was it natural? Possibly. Did it come from the lab in Wuhan due to accident or error? Possibly. We didn’t know its transmission rate, It’s death rate, Its after effects, etc.

          What follows is the result of a divided nation where one side is willing to see Americans die or impoverished just to gain power. (Not unusual for leftist type of thinking and one can look at the 20th century and take note that outside of war over 100 million were killed just so leftist type dictators could remain in power.) This is compounded by an unknown virus that has a potential of being very deadly or not so deadly. I think it was made impossible for the economy to stay open though if we were prepared I think we would have leaned more in that direction and what you say “we should have just said to be smart around our elderly” says it all.

          The thing that constantly bothers me is the distribution of the virus as superficially it seems to me that it is not behaving in the same way other virus’s have. Maybe I am wrong but that is the appearance I see.

          “Inside Every Liberal Is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out.” __D. Howowitz

          1. Allen,

            As for a date span, it is tough. It was definitely after Christmas because I didn’t have any issues at the new year. Spent Christmas in KS. I didn’t think much of the coughing since it didn’t prevent me from going to work. Some of my other firemen were hit harder. If I recall correctly, they had it before me and struggled more. I would think it was in February.

            I have another twist on the escalation and economy. Yes, I believe that the Dems were celebrating all of this. But, to me, it happened too soon. There is a long way to Nov. The twist I wonder about is this. Back in Novemeber/December several times I told people that the economy will need to crash for one of two reasons. One the dems need it to hurt the President or two, if you remember, we kept being told that a correction is needed or bound to happen. To me, the second reason is a President Trump conspiracy. If there is no virus and a correction happens killing the economy say, in the summer, this would be really bad for the President. But, this virus happens, now, the President can have the “correction” wrapped up in with the virus. Two things come from this if the virus gets contained fairly quickly. Trump gets to look like the hero and the economy bounces back come November. That’s my tin foil hat thought.

      2. I wouldn’t be so quick to label it hype. Half the reason the acceleration is slowing is because Americans are starting to take it seriously. China is reopening mainly because they enforced a police state and required everyone out to wear masks and only let them out occasionally. We don’t have to enforce such draconian measures but this isn’t your run of the mill virus. I’m still with Tom Cotton in that we need to be researching the nearby lab. The American media still talks as if this came from the market when China admittedly ruled that out in February then proceeded to blame the US for it. It wasn’t created from scratch but they have a lab less than 10 miles from the supposed epicenter where they’re injecting groups of bats with all types of pathogens and conducting other research banned in the US.

        Besides the ones the Chinese government locks up, groups of scientists will clamor that it’s wrong to investigate the lab and rule it out using traditional methods of virus manipulation by looking at the backbone structure of the virus. However if you saw a bat that was injected with AIDS and mated with a bat that was injected with SARS etc it wouldn’t register as some type of viral manipulated structure, it would look quite natural. We have the most infectious disease in over a hundred years, that can remain hidden for weeks at a time, and if people stopped looking at it as something that occurred naturally but the result of leaked genetic experiments no one would be acting so casually and we might actually be preparing ourselves for the next time something leaks due to lack of proper controls, and only it has the mortality rate of the Spanish flu or something that could wipe out a significant percentage of the population besides wreaking systematic economic havoc

      3. My cousin died last week from this virus. Got diarhea, a low grade fever, then a slight cough for a couple of days. Then his wife could not rouse him from sleep the next morning. She called 911, he was hospitalized, put on a ventilator the same day, and rapidly declined, was in critical care, died within two weeks of first getting symptoms. Healthy, fit 66 year old. Virus took his life. I also know numerous people from across the country who have gotten the virus, felt very ill at home, and recovered. This is not a fraud. And fwiw, I am a Trump supporter.

    3. Karen, don’t you have a kid who’s in one of these generations you have viciously attacked. CRipes, nothing good about stereotyping an entire generation in such general negative terms. What;s your sample? What do you think others similarly prone to hostility would label yours?

  6. If the powers that be try to cancel more than half the baseball season, or fiddle around with any of the football season, you’re going to see civil disobedience — I don’t care which generation you’re in.

  7. No one has noticed the elephant in the room.

    Democrats have SHUT DOWN the country.

    The democrats repeatedly shamed republicans for threatening to SHUT DOWN the country.

    Now the democrats have taken the opportunity of this “fake” Rahm Emanuel “crisis” – “The Pandemic Panic and Melodrama of 2020” –

    to SHUT DOWN the country with great deliberation and purpose.

    Once capitalism, actually American free enterprise, takes the now inevitable turn to the downside, the communists (liberals, progressives,

    socialists, democrats) will pick up the pieces, further enable their burgeoning masses of counterintuitive, ineligible, hyphenate voters,

    and cinch the yoke of slavery up tight on the neck of the state under global communism.

  8. Americans are flying a Boeing 747 over the Atlantic Ocean and one of the passengers develops a temperature and fever.

    The Captain announces, “Ladies and gentlemen, we are experiencing a medical emergency so I am going to shut off the plane’s engines. When the patient recovers and we’re nearing the ground, I’ll restart them. I know this will work and it will provide the best outcome for all of us.”

    – Glenn Beck
    ___________

    “That dudn’t make any sense.”

    – George W. Bush

  9. The elephant in the room is democrat COLLUSION with China and China MEDDLING in a U.S. presidential election.

    No one has yet seen or, otherwise, detected the elephant in the room.

    1. George – that elephant is as big as the Goodyear blimp. A ton of us have seen it. 🙂

      1. PCS, were the tables turned and the perps Chinese, no one would ever see or hear from them again; I should say no one would ever see or hear from their exponentially disarticulated remnants again.

        The direction America is taking is quite acceptable to the anti-American communists in this country.

        Obama, Pelosi, Schiff et al. emphatically desire the full abrogation of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights and the subjugation of America by the global communist Dear Leader of China, General Secretary Xi JInping.

        Hold your arm out, Herr Schulte. You will soon receive the chip or proverbial “Mark of the Beast” and trade in the cashless “Wuhan” society in bitcoin on blockchain.

        1. George – I think there are enough of us to hold off the Dems in Nov.

          1. We prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

            I see no way out of a totally broke Treasury, Weimar inflation, food shortages, war and variations on those themes.

            The communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats) will soon learn the dear cost of “free lunch.”

            1. I see it the same way George.

              We’re still prepping here.

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              btw, zerohedge, a real news outfit, thought one of P Turley’s article was good enough to post on their site.

              I thought it cool of them.

        2. George, makes a very good point here. The first time I heard about Bitcoin was in grad school, ans I wondered right off the bat, are we all going cashless.

          Then, some stores, specifically food were cashless. Hrmmm, interesting.

          A quick Google search revealed Sweden is already cashless. Wow. Okay.

          I think part of it, is the desire to go, Cashless, and to track everyone on everything, every purchase. Pretty serious surveillance. It is coming for sure.

          The most interesting point, is how, the govt relaxed the weed biz, and the war on drugs. And how cashless society and the weed/drug biz, tie into the whole world drama. Just watch what happens once we all go cashless…

                    1. Paul – Hrrm, that’s a good question. Where did we leave off? There is too many questions.

                      I mentioned the Round Table, and you said, which one. I guess I know the least about The Club of Rome.

                      I also want to know how the Rothschild family ties into the Weishaupt Knigge division in Germany? Is it true they funded both sides of wars? So, no matter which side, it did not matter, a loan is a loan.

                      Also, saw some interesting photos from the 70s of the family at a Castle 🏰 par-tay in Europe. Looks just like Kubrick’s Eyes Wide Shut. Okay, maybe not exactly like that, but the masks.

                    2. WW33 – here is the encyclopedia on the Club of Rome.

                      Club of Rome
                      BIBLIOGRAPHY

                      Founded in Rome in early 1968 by a group of European businesspeople and scientists, the Club of Rome is a nonprofit nongovernmental organization (NGO) that serves as an international think tank on global issues. The Club of Rome is run by an Executive Committee of eleven members that appoints a president, vice presidents, a secretary-general, and a treasurer. The president of the club represents the organization to the outside world; HRH Prince El Hassan bin Talal of Jordan became president of the Club of Rome in 1999.

                      Individual membership in the Club of Rome is restricted to those who are elected by the Executive Committee. There are three levels of individual membership. (1) Active members are persons of established reputation whose work is international in scope and whose views on global issues are congruent with the Club of Rome. Serving terms of five years, the number of active members is limited to one hundred. The Club of Rome’s professed aim is to balance membership in this category by regions, cultures, professions, age, and gender. The public listing of active members reveals men and women from such fields as banking, private industry, academe, government (both elective office and bureaus), and other NGOs. (2) Associate members are individuals who are involved with the work of the club or wish to cooperate in the future. They may apply for membership or be recommended by a member of the club and are elected by the Executive Committee for five-year terms. Again, associate members are drawn from those who have attained distinction in a variety of fields, though those from academe and research institutes dominate this category. (3) Honorary members are persons of high reputation or office whose work can support the mission of the club. Honorary members must be proposed by a member of the club and are elected by the Executive Committee. The membership of this group is dominated by former high government officials, though there are a few academics as well.

                      The professed mission of the Club of Rome is to “act as a global catalyst of change” by sponsoring studies and conferences and issuing reports and news releases that focus on long-term global problems and their interrelationships. The club is committed to an interdisciplinary perspective that highlights both the increasing interdependence of and problems among nation-states. From its first report in 1972, titled The Limits to Growth, the Club of Rome has dedicated itself to identifying the most critical problems facing humanity; analyzing the interrelationships of these problems on the basis of an interdisciplinary, holistic, and global perspective; and positing future scenarios based on humanity’s response to these problems. The club has identified a number of significant global issues, referred to as world problematique, facing humanity, including: depletion and pollution of the environment; demographic problems of both growth and aging; uneven development within and between nations; the decline of traditional values; dysfunctional governments; the quality and distribution of work; the sociocultural impact of new technologies; dysfunctional educational systems; the globalization of the economy; and international financial disorder.

                      The best-known report sponsored by the Club of Rome was its first, The Limits to Growth. The book was based on multiple simulations of a “systems dynamics” computer model of five major human activities: industrial production, population, agricultural production, resource use, and pollution. The basis of systems dynamics is the assumption that the often complex and intricate interrelationships between components of a system are essential in determining the behavior of the components as well as of the overall system itself. Accordingly, levels and rates of change in each of the sectors were interrelated through mathematical formulae that sought to simulate the impact of growth in one sector (for example, a growth in agricultural production) on levels and rates of change in the other four sectors. The model was then run under differing assumptions regarding physical limits to growth (supposing the known reserves of resources versus doubling those known reserves). The results of the simulations lent support to the idea of physical limits to continued growth consisting of resource depletion and pollution, with the authors arguing that if present growth trends continue, these limits will probably be reached within the next century; the typical mode of hitting these limits was one of “overshoot and collapse.” Rather than a simple prediction of doom, however, the report argues that the world can move quickly to establish a condition of economic and population stability that is sustainable and a state of global equilibrium that more equitably distributes resources to each person on earth.

                      The Club of Rome’s main focus is upon global problems associated with population and economic growth. It espouses a neo-Malthusian agenda of limiting population growth and promoting sustainable economic development in order to address perceived problems of environmental degradation.

                      SEE ALSO Birth Control; Elites; Limits of Growth; Malthus, Thomas Robert; Malthusian Trap; Natural Resources, Nonrenewable; Overpopulation; Population Control

                      BIBLIOGRAPHY
                      Club of Rome. http://www.clubofrome.org.

                    3. WW33 – one of the Rothchilds funded Knigge and the Illuminatti.

                    4. WW33 – the Rothchilds seem to have only funded one side at a time.

                    5. WW33 – let me answer this tomorrow, I am starting to fade. 🙁

                1. Paul – What kind?

                  Also, Ok1y was saying “Careful Paul, it is a trap.” Not sure what he means, this was in re our convo, yesterday.

                    1. Okay, Paul, 😉. That is good.

                      I have tried to bring these topics up to ppl I see in person.

                      I always get either blank stares, or that is fake, or it is just a conspiracy, or you should mind your own biz, or why do you care, or don’t go sticking your nose where it doesn’t belong… the list goes on and on.

                    2. PCS, might I suggest that you and World War Thirty-Three get an, shall we say, accommodation?

  10. “…how the pandemic has brought about a generational shift…”

    – Professor Turley
    ______________

    “The Pandemic Panic and Melodrama of 2020”

    By “pandemic,” are you referring to the “Fake Pandemic” and attendant “Pandemic Panic and Melodrama of 2020” induced by communists (liberals, progressives, socialists, democrats) who were staring a massive landslide Trump victory in the face a few short weeks ago?

    This panic is “fake.” The “Wuhan Flu” arrived last fall, was contracted by many Americans in various areas and was soundly defeated by their human immune systems. The “Wuhan Flu” was only as dangerous as every other flu since the advent of homo sapiens. The flu always kills particular individuals as do freeways, diseases, parachuting, snow skiing, etc., etc., etc.

    To continue “…fundamentally transforming the United States…” by employing random “models” and ridiculously high estimates of death, this whole “Fake Pandemic” and “Pandemic Panic and Melodrama of 2020” is a fraud perpetrated by the communists in America who adhered to the admonition by a prominent communist operative and hatchet man a few months – big surprise – before a presidential election.

    “You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it’s an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.”

    – Rahm Emanuel

    The only question for actual Americans is whether they will exert their hereditary control and restrict the vote and participation in self-governance by parasites, communists and every other form of dependent, hyphenate anarchist “in order to form a more perfect union.”

    The inmates have taken over the asylum.

    It is time to take it back.
    __________________

    Ben Franklin, 1787, we gave you “a republic, if you can keep it.”

    Ben Franklin, 2020, we gave you “a republic, if you can take it back.”

    1. Well, you said it like it really is. Not pleasant, not pretty, but real.

  11. Way too early to start congratulating anyone. If this “pandemic” ultimately turns out to be a harsh flu, with comparable number of flu deaths, someone should be held accountable for the most sensationalized overreaction in history.

    1. Truth, this “harsh flu” can keep a person in bed for 10 days. And that doesnt mean they pass the time watching TV. In most cases they’re so sick they just vegitate on their backs hoping they don’t land in the hospital. But 20% will, in fact, wind up in the hospital.

    2. The purpose of the thing was to destroy the economy and, under ideal conditions, the United States of America. This pandemic was no accident. Timing is everything, remember?

      1. Catapult, you’re hinting at a conspiracy theory. But the whole world is dealing with this. We should have been better prepared.

        1. You sound like that which Jack Hass.

          In the 2020 U.S. presidential election season, this “flu” was released by the communists in China at the behest of the communists in America who were facing a massive landslide Trump victory, having thrown everything they could at him for 3 1/2 years from fake dossiers to Mueller to “emoluments” to Michael Cohen to Michael Avenati to Christine Ballsey Ford and all the way to contrived, fake, kindergarten “Dumbpeachment.”

          The release by China of the biological weapon, “Wuhan Flu,” was done in conjunction with the communist American “resistance” carrying an effect similar to a mild, mitigated form of a neutron bomb which kills biological entities and leaves structures and equipment untouched and undamaged.

          The “Wuhan Flu” “preemptive first strike” attack by China is similar in magnitude and impact to “fundamentally transforming the United States” by the treasonous, anti-American Obama administration and the anti-Trump Obama Coup D’etat in America…

          Your effete protestations aside.

          The next thing you’ll tell us is that Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK.
          __________________________________________________

          “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”

          – William Casey, CIA Director 1981-1987

          1. much as i dislike them, if the CCP released this on purpose they shot themselves in the foot.

            they’ve taken a huge hit on business in the PRC and that means huge losses in bribes to the CCP

            i dont see a bioweapon. if it came from the wuhan bsl4 lab it was probably under study and then accidentally released due to somebody selling a test animal to the wet market that should have been cremated

            1. International litigation against China for wongful death and damages caused by gross negligence and contemptible dereliction must begin at $25 trillion, to be modified at a future date.

        2. Your only hope is that AG William “Mr. Deep Deep State” Barr and his sidekick Deputy Durham continue to look for evidence in all the wrong places and find nothing resembling in any way the truth and the facts. Imagine the truth coming out about the attempt to destroy America and “fundamentally transforming the United States…,” the “Obama Coup D’etat in America” and the “Wuhan Flu” attack by the communist “Obama Resistance” in alliance with their Dear Leader and General Secretary of Global Communism, Xi Jinping.

          Oh my!

          Treason as defined in the Constitution:

          “…adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.”

          Looks like we have arrived.

    3. “Comparable numbers of flu deaths” don’t occur under these conditions, but with a full tilt economy and social interaction. If we come under that the smart interpretation will be that the lock down worked.

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