“Technically Black”: Atlantic Columnist Supports Biden’s Statement That Black Trump Supporters Are Not Really Black

220px-Biden_2013Former Vice President Joe Biden had a bad day yesterday after his statement during an interview with Charlamagne tha God on the radio show “The Breakfast Club” that “if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”  To Biden’s credit, he came out an apologized. (Something President Donald Trump has consistently refused to do for comments like his statement that Jewish voters who voted for the Obama Administration “do not like Israel too much”). However, Atlantic staff writer Jemele Hill has kept the controversy brewing with her insistence that Biden’s statement that over a million such Black voters in recent polling are not really (as opposed to “technically”) black was “accurate.”  The controversy raises some of the issues addressed recently in a column on the stereotyping of Trump supporters.  [Biden is also facing a push back from the NAACP which said that, despite his repeated statements to the contrary, it has never endorsed Biden or anyone else.]

We have previously discussed Hill’s controversial career at ESPN.  Now a writer for The Atlantic, Hill argued that, while clearly meant as a joke, Biden was actually right.

“The issue wasn’t what Joe Biden said, because it was accurate. The issue was that it came from Biden. It also was clearly a joke that didn’t land. But I’m wondering where all this outrage was yesterday when y’all president declared his public devotion to a Nazi sympathizer.”

That appears a reference to Trump praising the family (and “bloodline”) of Henry Ford at a visit to the Ford factory. She later added that such black voters could still be considered “technically black.”

“I don’t have a problem with the statement because he was clearly referring to this from a policy and track record standpoint. If you’re black and you support anti-black policies and positions, then that makes you …? You’re still technically black but you ain’t with us.”

359 thoughts on ““Technically Black”: Atlantic Columnist Supports Biden’s Statement That Black Trump Supporters Are Not Really Black”

  1. Often useful to reverse the situation to put in an understandable perspective. I’ll use a recent Presidential but unqualified candidate as an example. An attorney in a court case as a prosecutor. – or the other way around – Please answer the question it isn’t rocket science it’s a simple yes or no answer. the last six words hammer and brow beat the witness over and over. No other answer is allowed except yes or no.

    What is lost in this scenario?

    The witness has taken an oath to tell the truth, whole truth and nothing but the truth. Attempting to do exactly that is being forced into perjuring themselves. Because the truth is the truth is that seen from the eyes or heard in the ears of the witness and only the witness.

    The truth is not in the playbook of the attorney who is attempting to force a false statement.

    The truth is the attorney is committing a crime in trying to force his or her opinion and block the truth as it is known to the witness.

    The truth is that type of attorney has no intent to follow Constitutional Law and is forecasting their probable behavior if mistakenly given even more power. There were at least two of that group in the group of twenty then eight maybe three.

    f Speaking of course at the fascist tactics of of Motor Mouth Harris. who should been reminded if you don’t know that you ain’t yellow or brown or white or black because you are not a Constitutionalist nor a Citizen nor are you upholding your oath of office but in violation of iyour oath of office.

    The witness would be wrong to answer falsely and correct to, if not given the opportunity to speak the truth as they know it, refuse to answer in order to not commit perjury.

    The attorney or attorneys thus proclaim openly their willingness to commit crimes aganst the Constitution and the Citizens.

    Motor Mouth is but one example and not alone in that group. Regardless has proven themselves not to be fit to be put into higher office. Now we are seeing a seated Judge perform in much the same manner and then try to hide behind another ham’n’egger.

    If such should happen when you are on a jury. You should vote against the true offender and as a Citizen with hold your approval and vote against the true offender.

    Lest you too should become one of this form of criminal.

    Mark Twain said it best. The US Congress is the nation’s only true home grown criminal class, Those running for office under a slate headed by Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer are merely their connection to their ruling class.

    1. I picked on Harris not because of gender. She fit the picture in that she is exactly 50% of one major racial division and 50% of another. But so far has stayed away from race baiting. One can no longer say that for Biden. just as Harris cannot claim to be a Constitutionalist.

  2. Biden QUIET as an investigation into China’s donations to the Biden Center: How beholden to Cnina is Biden or the Biden Center?

    Watchdog asks feds to investigate university, Biden center for millions in anonymous China donations
    The group says the university is in violation of federal disclosure laws

    A watchdog group is asking the U.S. Education Department to investigate the University of Pennsylvania and its Biden Center, a diplomacy and global engagement initiative named after the Democratic presidential candidate, for accepting millions of dollars in anonymous funds from Chinese donors.

    The complaint, filed by the National Legal and Policy Center, says that over the past three years, the university has accepted around $22 million in anonymous funding from Chinese sources. That’s out of a total of more than $70 million from Chinese donors during that time, the NLPC said.

    Those significant funds, including the anonymous amounts, rolled in after the Biden Center was announced in early 2017 and launched in February 2018. The center is located in downtown Washington, D.C.

    Federal records show that the University of Pennsylvania has received significant donations from China since the opening of the center. One 2018 donation alone totals $14.5 million; it is listed as “anonymous” in federal records.

    The NLPC alleges the university may have violated federal law in accepting those anonymous monetary donations. The Higher Education Act mandates schools report the national origins of any donations above $250,000 although not necessarily the individual names of donors themselves.

    Still, the NLPC is calling on the Education Department to “conduct a full Investigation and Records Request of all monetary gifts and contracts that have been received by the University of Pennsylvania and its Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement from China sources.”

    Neither the Biden campaign nor the Biden Center responded to requests for comment on Sunday. The University of Pennsylvania’s media office also did not respond to a query.

    ‘It’s not too hard to connect the dots’

    It is not immediately evident from Penn’s financial disclosures how much, if any, of those Chinese donations are going to the Biden Center. Yet Paul Kamenar, a lawyer for the NLPC, told Just the News on Sunday that “it’s not too hard to connect the dots.”

    “This is foreign money coming into the university. It’s not going to their English department,” he said via phone. He noted that the university has a center called “Penn Global” with several sub-departments, one of which is the Penn Biden Center.

    “It’s just logical that it goes from the university to the university’s international global groups, of which the Biden center is one.”

    Kamenar also highlighted the university’s 2020 Penn China Research Symposium, held near the end of January. That symposium featured Ambassador Huang Ping, the Consul-General from New York’s Chinese consulate general. On one panel of that event, called “China and the Future of Healthcare and Biotechnology,” was a representative of the Penn Biden Center.

    “It’s not a stretch to conclude that the Penn Biden Center has to be getting money from somewhere. They’re not holding bake sales to raise funds,” Kamenar said.

    “Even if the source of the all the mega-millions of China donations are disclosed, depending on the terms and conditions of the grants, there’s a question of whether the University and its Biden Center are violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act,” he added, calling the matter “a national security issue.”

    Asked about the university’s outward compliance with the Higher Education Act, Kamenar ultimately framed the issue as part of a larger picture.

    “Regardless of the true source of the funds in China, the larger question for UoP and Biden Center is how beholden the university is to the millions pouring in from China, especially the $14.5 million that came soon after Biden Center opened?” he said, adding that the group is “asking [the Department of Education] to conduct a full investigation and … get ALL the underlying gifts and contracts, conditions and all regardless of whether it has to be reported.”

    The NLPC in its complaint specifically requested that the Education Department “obtain and inspect all copies of the monetary gifts and contracts, whether or not listed as Anonymous, in order to determine what if any conditions or restrictions were or are placed on those gifts or contracts.”

    The university has received numerous other anonymous international donations over the contested time period, including a $2 million gift from Canada last year and a $1 million donation from Hong Kong.


  3. it’s so a fraud it’s impossible to claim otherwise.
    Every rube in America can prove it to themselves in far less than 1 hour with a scanner and a computer, even a noob.
    It is obvious that the long form BC is a computer generated composite. In fact it is so obvious and blatant computer image manipulation it absolutely has to be intentional. No effort was taken to hide the image editing. It is definitely a greyscale image overlaid onto a color background. And that is just the most obvious computer image manipulation. There is tons of evidence of more subtle computer image editing.

    The birther controversy is a lot like the Trump/Russia hoax. There is no reason for Obama to do anything but encourage the birthers to make fools of themselves. It makes his most rabid opponents look like deranged idiots in the same way that the Mueller investigation makes all the fools that believe the Russia collusion and Trump obstruction stories (those are Trump’s most rabid opponents) look like deranged idiots.

  4. Ok, then from 1937 to 2020+ is the 3rd industrial revolution, culminating in a massive elimination of much work.

    1. David Benson is the God Emperor of Making Stuff Up and owes me forty-four citations (one from the OED, one from the town ordinances and two from the Old Testament), an equation and the source of a quotation, after seventy-six weeks, and needs to cite all his work from now on. – the period from 1937 to 2020 is not an Industrial Revolution. However, we started the Computer Revolution in the 1960s.

  5. PCS — A cite is required for a claim of two industrial revolutions, whatever that is supposed to me.

    1. David Benson is the God Emperor of Making Stuff Up and owes me forty-four citations (one from the OED, one from the town ordinances and two from the Old Testament), an equation and the source of a quotation, after seventy-six weeks, and needs to cite all his work from now on. – you first Red Ryder

    1. David Benson is the God Emperor of Making Stuff Up and owes me forty-five citations (one from the OED, one from the town ordinances and two from the Old Testament), an equation and the source of a quotation, after seventy-six weeks, and needs to cite all his work from now on. – a cite is necessary for stating the Industrial Revolution didn’t get up to speed until 1860. BTW, it is not the “so-called Industrial Revolution” it is the Industrial Revolution. As a sidenote, there were two Industrial Revolutions.

  6. Biden’s record on his slaved voters blocks:
    1. More absent Fathers and fatherless children
    2. Reduced education literacy
    3. Fighting with Cornpop
    4. As Joe said, learning about cockroaches.

    After taking a look, it doesn’t look good.

  7. Cindy Bragg — In those days cotton clothing was manufactured in England. It was probably too expensive for the yankees.

    1. David……..so, you are saying that not one thread of cotton made it across the Mason Dixon line? No cotton from the South was used for anything in the northern states of America.?

    2. David…………oops! I just read about the early textile industries in Mass.and Northeast in early 1800`s that were using a natural product grown in south, picked by slaves….it was white and furry-like 😊 Any guesses? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
      Not to mention that the cotton industry was the bedrock of the Northern Banking institutions!

      1. I believe the earliest machine manufacturing of textiles occurred in Massachusetts at about the same time as the Constitution was writen. At that time the cotton was obtained from the West Indies. If I am wrong correct me.

        1. Allan……this is my first rodeo…..don’t have an answer for you! I know very little about the NE….except I do love the Eerie Canal…..
          It was built in 1820’s, right?
          My point was that surely the Northern states benefitted from slavery in the South and North. I know the banks did!

          1. Cindy, you are right about the Erie Canal. It completes the circle of our major waterway system which was a great part in the rapid development of this nation. The whole system is incredible. The Missouri and the Mississippi flow south to New Orleans, around the coast of Florida up the Atlantic Coast protected almost entirely by barrier islands and then flows into the Great lakes through the Erie Canal built by man. The tributaries thoughout a huge area were close to the farms etc. so water traffic (the least expensive form of moving products and goods) could be moved all over most of the Eastern US by water. It was a giant highway system appearing naturally. Compare that to Russia where the main rivers all go in opposite directions which is not helpful for growth and development.

            That port in New Orleans was so important that one could consider foreign control of Texas to be an existential threat.

    3. It was probably too expensive for the yankees.

      Get back to us when you’ve learned the difference between production and consumption.

      While we’re at it, the Maddison Projects historical statistics crew estimates that in 1820 Britain had the highest per capital product in the world. The estimated per capita product of other countries they’ve researched in that ear were, as a ratio to the British level, as follows:

      Canada: 0.71
      Denmark: 0.78
      France: 0.66
      Ireland: 0.54
      Italy: 0.68
      Netherlands: 0.79
      Norway: 0.61
      Portugal: 0.65
      Sweden: 0.55
      United States: 1.0

    4. David Benson is the God Emperor of Making Stuff Up and owes me forty-four citations (one from the OED, one from the town ordinances and two from the Old Testament), an equation and the source of a quotation, after seventy-six weeks, and needs to cite all his work from now on. – the Industrial Revolution moved to the US, including cotton manufacture.

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