Florida Man Arrested After Attacking Elderly Man Who Asked For Social Distancing

We recently discussed the attack on an elderly man in an elevator over social distancing in Florida. Now, another Florida man, Rovester Ingram, has been charged with a vicious attack on a 70-year-old man at a convenience store after he was asked to social distance.  The charge caught my attention.

Ingram was without a mask when the elderly man asked him to step away so he could step inside the store at a Citgo gas station according to a police statement. Ingram then followed the victim outside of the store and began punching him.  When the victim went into the store, Ingram allegedly followed and continued to assault him. He then pulled the man by the hair outside of the store and continue to hit him and spit on him.

The elderly man was taken to the hospital with serious injuries and Ingram identified from surveillance footage.

It is little surprise that he faces aggravated battery on a person over 65 years old. However, he also is charged with kidnapping for dragging the man outside of the store.

Here is the relevant statute:

787.01 Kidnapping; kidnapping of child under age 13, aggravating circumstances.

(1)(a) The term “kidnapping” means forcibly, secretly, or by threat confining, abducting, or imprisoning another person against her or his will and without lawful authority, with intent to:

1. Hold for ransom or reward or as a shield or hostage.
2. Commit or facilitate commission of any felony.
3. Inflict bodily harm upon or to terrorize the victim or another person.
4. Interfere with the performance of any governmental or political function.
(b) Confinement of a child under the age of 13 is against her or his will within the meaning of this subsection if such confinement is without the consent of her or his parent or legal guardian.
(2) A person who kidnaps a person is guilty of a felony of the first degree, punishable by imprisonment for a term of years not exceeding life or as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
Presumably, the prosecutors are alleging the dragging the victim by the hair outside was “abducting” even if only brief in time. It raises the question of how long or how much movement is needed to quality as abducting.  Fights often involve pulling or pushing or dragging someone for a short distance.  I could not find a clear answer on where that line is drawn under the criminal code.  There is also the question of intent. Was the pulling of the victim outside part of the assault or a mean to continue the assault?
The addition of the kidnapping charge, however, could bring a life sentence so these distinctions could be highly determinative on sentencing.

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  2. Absolutely despicable. That said, take a look at this:

    https://twitter.com/melbprisoner/status/1305339140003696641

    ‘Victoria, Australia (8pm curfew, 1hr allowed outside): police knock a man down with their car, and stomp on his head. He’s now in a coma.

    State premier Dan Andrews comments: “all of this can be avoided if people don’t protest.”‘

    Aren’t their actions just as despicable? Shouldn’t they be prosecuted, too?

    1. Yes, but we have enough problems in this country to worry about what happens in foreign countries. And if you are so concerned about this man, why not post comments about the 1,000’s killed by cartels a year in Mexico and central America?

  3. It’s getting to the point that the health risk of a law abiding person leaving the house is too high unless one has a deadly defense weapon and is ready, willing, and able to use it, with a modicum of training and of course the minimum special CC insurance.

    In my State the risk is far lower than the 50 State average; I presume the risk in FL is about 3-6x the national average. What a chite hole FL appears to be.

  4. He forcibly abducted the man from the store in order to Inflict bodily harm upon or to terrorize the victim. I wonder what part of this goes over JH’s head?

    1. IMO the truth is JT knows this perp’s actions meet the definition, he just DISAPPROVES. You know what I approve of? I approve of this perp being charged with every crime that can possibly be bent to fit, especially federal, followed by every appeal being considered and tossed, then the public hanging with his momma offered a front row seat.

      Am I blocking again?

  5. It would appear that the charge of kidnapping would meet the standard set forth. First, while I do not practice law in FL, a physical assault on a person 65 or older is in many states a felony. Second, it was apparent that it was the intent of the assailant to inflict harm and terrorize the victim.

  6. The kidnapping charge seems off base, but why wasn’t this attempted murder? That level of assault against a 70 year old could be deadly. In addition, Ingram needs to be tested for Covid-19. If he is positive, then spitting on an elderly man is definitely attempted murder, which might be upgraded to murder.

    The way I was raised, you respect your elders. That applies when the elder is grumpy, impolite, etc. It’s yes ma’am, no ma’am. And then you go mow their lawn or prune their roses exactly how she wants you to. The only time you don’t do as an elder asks is if it’s against the law or abusive.

    To see this law not only flouted, but the pendulum swing towards battering the elderly is an indication of decaying society. A protective instinct for the elderly should be at the core of manly behavior, and that of a civilized society.

    What especially troubles me is that there is not universal outcry against such assaults. There is a criminal element sub culture that reacts gleefully.

  7. Similar to the incident yesterday when a another jerk not wearing a mask broke the law. As of this post he is has not been arrested yet.

    “LAS VEGAS (AP) — In open defiance of state regulations and his own administration’s pandemic health guidelines, President Donald Trump hosted his first indoor rally since June, telling a packed, nearly mask-less Nevada crowd that the nation was “making the last turn” in defeating the virus….”

    1. Nothing similar about it. You’re welcome to bow before your King (Governor) and wash his stanky feet, then bend over…. and thank him afterwards……. the rest of us have a little self respect.

  8. If he dragged him into a dark alley? If he took him to an abandoned building? If he took him from inside the store to outside of the store? Stack up the charges in this case. The more time this mutt does the safer the public will be.

    1. It isn’t and it isn’t. Property crime is more common than violent crime and about 87% of the homicides in this country do not cross the color bar.

      It is true that black-on-non-black crime is quite a bit more common than non-black-on-black crime, and that the differential is most pronounced in regard to violent crime.

    1. No, he needs to go to prison for a couple of years. Longer if he’s a disciplinary problem to the guards or he gets in more trouble out on parole.

      1. A couple of years????????? lol. You MUST be a liberal. What is wrong with you people? No doubt this guy has a record a mile long. He belongs in jail for the next decade at least.

  9. The left and the MSM keep pushing the BLM story line.

    And in fact attack as rasist the concept that all lives matter.

    But reading news reports suggest that black on white attacks are far more frequent than the reverse.

    (The press almost always identifies racial identities when a white attacks a black, but rarely the reverse.)

    Don’t know if this victim is white, but there seems to be an awful lot of black on white violence that gets ignored because it doesn’t fit the current narrative.

  10. By dragging him outside the assailant was preventing destruction of property inside the store like bottles of Pepsi stacked against a wall.

    1. Use the terrorist charge. Under the Patriot Act all that is necessary is ‘suspicion of doing or supporting’ Civil rights are dropped all of them not just probable cause no attorneys, judges, juries or trials. The rest is classified That’s the way the Democrats approved the Act the last time it was voted on December 2015. Nor were US Citizens excused from it’s provisions nor was the Congress.

      Considering the reign of terror coming from The Speaker Of The House’s office might be useful. Some are claiming there was a sunset provision but we’ve seen no proof of that and it wouldn’t apply to the classified provisions anyway. Remember it was written by Socialists planning on having a socialist President.

      The vote in the senate by the way was 85 for as the extensions with changes extending some of the provisions was one of those add ons to the years final budget bill. You may recall Obama did live TV schtick about what a good deal it was.

      And as far as we know it’ still valid and in force.

      Who would carry it out? DOHS or a subdivision so we thought Directorate of Internal State Security or Diss might work. That part only maybe macabre humor. The rest of my comment is FACT.

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