Many believe that Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s greatest single line came in his 1933 inaugural address when he declared that “the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.” Fear is a precursor to panic and FDR gave the country hope. President Trump has repeatedly said that he wants to maintain the same positive attitude but it was hardly a FDR moment yesterday when Trump told citizens “Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life.” Many of us have denounced the statement as absolutely reckless for a president to make in the middle of a pandemic. At the same time, Trump critics have denounced the President while engaging in utter hysteria over the President’s release. Yesterday, for example, Washington Post columnist and MSNBC commentator Jennifer Rubin appeared to become utterly unglued over the release and tweeted that his doctor should be stripped of his license and Walter Reed “defunded.”I cannot imagine a more irresponsible comment than telling people not to fear Covid. I can understand the push to reopen the economy despite the ongoing pandemic. I can understand the opposition to inconsistent state rules governing protests or gatherings. I also understand the need to remain optimistic. However, with over 200,000 dead Americans, there is every reason to be afraid of this incredibly contagious virus, as shown by the President’s own contraction of Covid-19.
On the other side, the same unhinged rhetoric was in full display. Ruben was a case in point. She excoriated the medical team at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center and White House physician Dr. Sean Conley for releasing the President. Rubin declared “Any MD who publicly endorses this insanity needs to lose his/her license. Period.”
The “insanity” was a determination that the President could continue to recover at the White House where there is a full medical facility and staff. Not only did the team confirm that every criteria for release had been satisfied as much as a day earlier, but there are a myriad of reasons why such a release is warranted. First, the hospital staff needs to address acute patients and the huge staff assigned to the President was hardly justified if he was showing no signs of decline after meeting the benchmarks for release. Second, he is the President of the United States. If he can recover at the White House, it is important to have him closer to the situation room and other secure areas in case of emergency. Staff must be able to share classified material and engage the President on matters of state. While the Presidential Suite at Walter Reed is ample, it create logistical and security concerns for staff in interacting with a president.
Rubin however was not finished with her Twitter tirade. She added that “Congress might want to defund Walter Reed. It is a public health hazard.” She added that the President could not be trusted and that the public needed to be protected from him: “A 74 yr old [obese] man with covid – who might have lung damage – and a pattern of disregarding medical advice is returned to an environment in which he may infect others. What planet does Conley inhabit? Where is the rest of Walter Reed? The VP? They are remarkable cowards.”
I think we all need to admit a little forward thinking here – it is now alleged that this can be traced to the pre-debate prep in Cleveland where all were cleared prior to entry, well, what if Trump were to become gravely ill, decapitated for the remainder of the campaign, or, even actually die? It’d be but a short logical hop then to assume the room itself was rife with contagion, but why? Our politics could very well rapidly deteriorate and there are some 600 million guns in this country, owned by the law-abiding, mostly 2nd Amenders, therefore Trump supporters. In light of current tensions do you really believe that they really believe “all lives matter”? Are you really that foolish? THIS is the fear and anger induced panic Trump is trying to forestall.
The problem with many today is that we are never quite so smart. Physically and mentally, as those who endured brutal hardship thoroughly immersed in all that threatens, our Euro colonial ancestors were heads and tails above..And THEY were forward thinkers to the nth degree. Whether we are speaking of political unrest, unbridled blatant corruption, or the shuttering of the economy, none of this would have been permitted in their day.
Trump’s days of being needed for strategic decisions are numbered. His decision making is flawed enough without being all ‘roided out on top of it. Hope he gets better from his Covid huffing party excursion i.e. the Barrett nomination ceremony.
Trump is going to need all the strength he can muster for what awaits him in NY state in ’21.
As for you and Rubin, JT? Get a room.
i think they are using corticosteroids on him not anabolics.
prednisone can trigger crazy in some people, its a rare side effect however
Yes, the dexamethasone he’s on is a corticosteroid.
“Psychiatric adverse effects during systemic corticosteroid therapy are common. Two large meta-analyses found that severe reactions occurred in nearly 6% of patients, and mild to moderate reactions occurred in about 28%. Although disturbances of mood, cognition, sleep, and behavior as well as frank delirium or even psychosis are possible, the most common adverse effects of short-term corticosteroid therapy are euphoria and hypomania.”
https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(11)61160-9/pdf
This would account for why he says he’s feeling so great.
There’s plenty of discussion by physicians about the possible psych side-effects of dexamethasone.
yeah, hypomania. give it to a bipolar person and wow it’s a train wreck. i seen that with my own two eyes
but most people tolerate them well. 6% severe is about 1/20 which is rare in my mind. the mild reaction rate is higher than I thought. a little bit of elevated mood is not a big problem, but hypomania can cause life damaging mistakes. i mean that’s almost how mania is defined per se, ie, elevated mood that leads to bad choices.
“There’s plenty of discussion by physicians about the possible psych side-effects of dexamethasone.”
Yes, every time a teacher gets a shot of dexamethasone for an allergic reaction the country goes into a panic because she might suddenly murder her entire classroom of 8 year olds.
Allan doesn’t understand the difference between a teacher and someone who has the nuclear codes.
Sure I do, but you don’t understand that if dexamethasone can act on Trump in a specific way it can act on anyone in the same way and a lot of people get shots of dexamethasone. That requires more than the simplest of logic so I don’t expect you to understand.
Meanwhile, two more WH staff have tested positive:
“One of those infected is Coast Guard aide Jayna McCarron, a member of the White House Military Office. She’s part of the crew that safeguards the nuclear “football” containing codes for the U.S. nuclear arsenal. The office is a vital cog in operations that provides communications, food, transportation and valet services at the White House complex. The other is one of the president’s valets, who is also active-duty military, and traveled with the president last week, according to people familiar with the matter.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-06/president-says-u-s-must-live-with-virus-like-flu-trump-update
Trump walked into the WH without a mask last night. He still has COVID, he is infectious, and he is choosing to put additional people at risk.
The WH is a COVID hot-spot, and they’re not doing everything they can to protect everyone who works there. They’ve also refused to allow the CDC to do contact tracing.
CNN: “The top US general, Gen. Mark Milley, and several members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff are quarantining after a top Coast Guard official tested positive for coronavirus, several US defense officials tell CNN. The Vice Commandant of the US Coast Guard, Adm. Charles Ray, tested positive on Monday.”
Glad that they’re following protocol, unlike people like Kayleigh McEnany and Mark Meadows, who had not been quarantining, despite exposure (McEnany is now quarantining after testing positive, but did not quarantine earlier, even though she should have).
Utterly, unhinged, etc responses to the blithering idiocy of Trump. Perhaps. But this is nothing more than Newton’s third law. The strong and Turleyesque utterly and unhinged are the appropriate responses to the idiot Trump. Here is a President who is personally responsible for at least 70,000 American deaths and who continues to infect. While infected he defends his position, a well documented position that dates from February, which put America behind in the fight against and control of Covid-19. It is true that Trump is not responsible for the virus, no one is. However, Trump’s well documented responses to the threats, well documented threats, caused far more Americans to die than would have been the case if a President with a patriotic concern for the people were in office. Trump is a megalomaniac. Trump puts Trump’s ego above the safety of the people. This must stop. Nov. 3rd cannot come soon enough.
Turley, instead of being aghast at the reactions to this disgrace of a person, Trump; you should be disgusted with this disgrace of a blithering idiot that somehow made it to the White House. Pull your head out from where the sun don’t shine.
nobody is unhinged. a local friend died of covid last night. a very nice lady loved by many, a real asset to the community. not a close friend, but a friend.
today, I feel how pathetic to read this hysterical outrage
look, it’s a disease, it’s spread socially, people are going to get sick and a very small number will die. but because a lot will get sick, that very small percentage will be a considerable number, even if it is small proportionately, we all understand this now and it is inevitable.
maybe i will get sick and maybe i will die before its through,. meanwhile, im sick of the hysteria how it’s been politicized and that was a 90% Democratic run stunt.
Nothing Trump has ever done for good or for bad has been ok with you clowns. why don’t you grow up and be responsible citizens who take unfolding difficulties with aplomb?
Mr. Kurtz, the problem is nobody knows for sure how the disease will affect somebody. To take a callous approach to it is exactly why we keep having these problems. The “oh only a few will die, it’s just a small number”. 210,000 people have already died from this.
The non-chalant attitude is how the president got infected and how he infected others.
It’s not a big deal until YOU get it, because guarantee you you will be thinking if you will end up in the hospital or on a ventilator as soon as you feel like you’re breathing harder than usual.
The president can put a brave front for the public, but it would be no surprise if the man got scared big time when he contracted the virus given his poor health.
i thought i had it yesterday., there is a little hotspot nearby which has touched social circles. and I thought I finally got my lottery ticket. i had an asthma attack and haven’t had one in years. the symptoms abated when I found my old inhaler. there are a lot of allergens around here and I think that’s what triggered me. I took my temp and it was 97.5% and now it’s 98.6 and i feel fine
it’s the end of the world as we know it, and i feel fine
Mr Kurtz……..I hope you stay healthy! Your comments are enjoyed by so many of us.
Kurtz
You might make a smidgen of sense if Trump had said only one thing, ‘We’re working on it.’ But Trump went in the wrong direction and more than this, he placed his ego above the reality that has cost over 200,000 lives. Trump placed and continues to place his political self above the importance of the health and well being of America. Trump is directly responsible for half of these deaths. If he was never born, a 100,000 people would still be alive. And, there are many tens of thousands yet to die. 4% of the world’s population with 20% of the deaths. Do the math and stop apologizing for this shame, this disgrace, this blithering idiot, this megalomaniac, this killer.
Jan 21: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China.”
Jan 30: “We think we have it very much under control.”
Feb 02: “We pretty much shut it down, coming from China.”
Feb 14: “We have a very small number of people in the country, right now, with it. It’s like around 12… Some are fully recovered already. So we’re in very good shape.”
Feb 25: “People are getting better, they’re all getting better.”
Feb 26: “And the 15 in a couple of days is gonna be down to close to zero.”
Feb 28: “Coronavirus. This is the new hoax… You’ll be fine.”
Feb 28: “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear”
Mar 02: “They’re going to have vaccines very soon.” Mar 03: “Not only the vaccines, but the therapies. Therapies is sort of another word for cure.”
Mar 04: “We’re talking about very small numbers in the United States.”
Mar 06: “I don’t need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn’t our fault… I like the numbers where they are.”
Mar 06: “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect…”
These are the words of a blithering idiot.
whatever isaac. you naysayers should read the words of Teddy Roosevelt:
“”It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”
Kipling, Churchill, etc have all said as much. However, Kipling was a racist of the most convinced sort, an imperialist. Churchill was also an imperialist and a racist. Every time I start to get used to the thought that America has evolved past these megalomaniac moments of shared greatness and disgrace, I read Turley’s blog and am saddened.
However, the final word is that Kipling, Roosevelt, Churchill, and others while being flawed, were ‘strong’ and worthy in their causes. Trump is anything but strong. Trump is a maroon, a product of privilege, wealth, and connections who has, despite the billions he has been able to lay his hands on, gone bankrupt six times, failed at more than a dozen businesses, and lied unrelentingly to anyone who would listen and for the past five years, to the American people. Almost everything Trump has claimed as accomplishment has been built on lies or is lies itself.
This is your champion? Woa.
He’s a maroon? did you know a maroon was an escaped haitian slave? probably not. reminds me, Dessalines, the black revolutionary who took over Haiti, presided over the slaughter of nearly all the white people on the island, man woman and child, except for a handful of priests.
was Dessalines a racist? one would think so, but we only hear songs of praise for him and sidekick Toussaint L’Overture from the few voices who remember them at all.
As for all these other “Racists” of Western history, I can only say, so what. Our ancestors lived and now so do we.
Without them, no New World, no you and me Isaac. Our ancestors would have never had enough to eat in Europe and never reproduced as much as those who “stole” the nation from the Indians and built it here. Say go back far enough and without Catholic bigots like Charles Martel or Jan Sobieski maybe our ancestors would all have been forcibly converted to Islam and we would be speaking Arabic.
Of course maybe you are metis so you have mixed feelings about that or maybe you are Jewish and consider Catholics as big a threat as Muslims are, That seems to be Diane Feinstein’s inclination. I don’t know. perhaps best if I only speak for myself here.
I leave you with this fine poetry from Kipling called “The Beginnings,” very apt in these times too, I think
It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late,
With long arrears to make good,
When the Saxon began to hate.
They were not easily moved,
They were icy — willing to wait.
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the Saxon began to hate.
Their voices were even and low.
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show.
When the Saxon began to hate.
It was not preached to the crowd.
It was not taught by the state.
No man spoke it aloud.
When the Saxon began to hate.
It was not suddenly bred.
It will not swiftly abate.
Through the chilled years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date.
That the Saxon began to hate.
PROUD TO SOME OF THAT SAXON BLOOD IN ME– HAIL HENGST & HORSA!
I meant poltroon
and here i was thinking you meant moron. poltroon is a fun word, i like it, usually
Maroon?
I guess nobody has ever taken a motorcyle safety course or didnt pay attention in business classes.
It’s called Risk Management. For background, also see the Serenity Prayer.
We cant stop a virus, we havent been able since the beginning of us walking up right.
We know that 99% of the population can get this virus and fully recover.
Risk management is having the wisdom to know you cant stop the virus and accept the risk and take whatever precautions you deem necessary.
Since the most vulnerable are those over 65 (retirement age), they should have the least amount of issue with isolating/social distancing from the grandkids for a couple of months, while the rest of society gets infected, gets over it, and it peters out because of herd immunity.
It’s the only way we have gotten past a virus in human history and it will continue to be. All we are currently doing is postponing the inevitable and destroying more lives with the lockdowns/forced enslavement (what would you call not being allowed to earn a living and having to depend on the government for your wellbeing?)
You cant live in fear.
We, as a society, should not let what is effectively a bad flu season control and shutdown our civilization.
The death toll from the flu season of 2019 in the US was 35,000. In 7 months the Covid-19 virus has claimed 210,000 lives. By the end of a year/12 month period, the death toll will be 10 times what ‘a bad flu season’ would have been. The 315,000 extra deaths are the result of your type of thinking. Imagine, for a moment, if you are capable, Trump alone, without Cuomo and the others that saw the writing on the wall, were to have handled this all by himself; a million, two million deaths, still not a yuge percentage of the population. Now imagine a loved one of yours dying alone. Pull your head out from where the sun don’t shine and take a good look at this disgrace, America’s shame.
+10
It is scientifically factual that in some circumstances the covid is less deadly than the flu.
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“Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life.” (Trump)
“That is why the President was wrong in issuing that statement.” (Turley)
You focus on the first sentence, while ignoring the second (which is the key to his view of the pandemic). Thus, you’re misrepresenting his statement to mischaracterize him as a Pollyanna.
“Don’t let it dominate” is, in fact, the psychological healthy attitude for anyone suffering from the loss of any value — be it health, wealth, or a loved one. It is the recognition of the fact that the purpose of life is the enjoyment of values and happiness, while refusing to wallow in pain.
Sam, the problem here is trump is incapable of empathy. He’s not being virtuous here. He’s just talking platitudes about fighting an infection that he had every reason not to get, but because of his indifference to precautions he is now suffering the consequences of his ignorance. He himself undetermined his own re-election. Now he’s trying to salvage it by playing “tough” and phony photo ops.
exactly sam. trump was right
How many manifestations of left-wing craziness do you need before you conclude they’re crazy and a threat to the nation? My Road to Damascus moment was when I realized the Left was surreptitiously push polling us in 2016 over the election. Now they make no bones about their biases. If we don’t do something about it, in the words of Louis XV it’s “après Trump, le déluge.”
What is reckless is for people like JT to discuss or write about things that they know absolutely nothing about. But for those who do want to hear about COVID from genuine experts, see this informative video from leading epidemiologists:
https://youtu.be/9saz5Hp646E
I don’t wake up in the morning thinking I am going to die in a car accident or of the flu or of a heart attack and I am not going to let covid rule my life. When we step out the door every day, anything can happen. That is life. Of course I will take precautions but we simply have to learn to live with it. It is a virus. It is here to stay. I cannot imagine what possible thing any head of any country could have done to prevent it. It is not preventable. Any epidemiologist will say that and many try to but MSM will not have them on their shows because it does not fit the narrative. They also say lockdowns do more harm than good and our beloved children will never recover from not going to school. Again doesn’t fit the narrative. I am also heartsick over people wishing our president had died including many in the MSM. If Joe Biden wins there will be other lockdowns in our future for a variety of things which is why I am glad our Michigan Supreme Court just ruled even governors must have accountability and work with the legislature. But then – – that’s another story.
We could still do something about this type Commie Flu Crap. Shut down/bulldoze all bio level 3 & 4 labs, arrest Dr Fauci, Bill Gates & other ring leaders under current US laws!
I’ve already pre screamed this video, don’t waste your time elsewhere when you can get real info from the link below.
Covid-19 Vaccine is Deadly Poison says Expert
https://banned.video/watch?id=5f7baa6e204fed0eb4d936d7
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Jesus Oky1, you’re flat out nuts.
Mespo, “ It is not preventable. Any epidemiologist will say that and many try to but MSM will not have them on their shows because it does not fit the narrative.”
Actually that’s not true. It’s is certainly preventable. The prevention is entirely possible with all the recommendations that were give. Wearing a mask, social distancing, limiting crowds, washing hands, etc. All of those measures are to prevent the spread and it only works if everyone adheres to them diligently.
Trump got a completely preventable infection because HE was not following the rules, he didn’t want the rules to apply to him because it would make him look bad, he thinks the rules only apply to others.
The mask mandates around the country do help and are very effective in containing the spread. The problem is those who flout the rules because somehow it stifles their liberty and freedom. Yet nobody explains how it does.
A pandemic is preventable or at least containable to a certain region when smart people are in charge. You get an ignorant blowhard in charge, it is no longer preventable.
I correctly predicted the president would end up in the hospital on Friday. I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up going back sometime this week.
The man. was struggling to breathe when he was standing on the patio. You could tell he was breathing hard. That only means he’s not out of the woods yet. Herman Cain died despite all the good prognosis’s he had been receiving.
if everybody hides out in a cave nothing gets done and we all starve or die of some other malady, or go insane
its time for Democrats to grow up and face the fact that dying is part of life and there is nothing we can do to stop it, only defer it for later, at best
” The prevention is entirely possible with all the recommendations that were give.”
Absolutely false and proven so.
Svelaz, someone an follow all these preventative actions, and still get COVID. And still die. Yes, they lower the odds but they do not absolutely prevent it. Sadly.
The criticism of the president is certainly warranted. Turley’s diatribe if Trubin only served as a distraction from the real issue he hasn’t addressed. The fact that it was the president’s own dismissive attitude about COVID has serious consequences. It’s the attitude of “toughness” against common sense that has led to his constant failures in handling the pandemic.
He only feels less fearful of it because he has at his disposal an army of doctors and access to the best drugs and therapies nobody else does free of charge.
He’s currently working to undermine everyone’s access to healthcare while he takes advantage of “socialized” medicine.
Trump was clearly not feeling good based on the video of his return. The man was struggling to breathe and was obviously uncomfortable.
He exposed others to the virus including former governor Christie who had to go to the hospital too. He’s especially vulnerable to covid because of his obesity and poof health.
The contrast in how this is being handled is like night and day. Everyone who didn’t wear a mask during the debate got COVID while the Biden team followed the rules and avoided the fiasco that Trump got himself into.
This the “law and order” President who flouts they rules because he doesn’t believe the law or the rules apply to him.
There should be no sympathy for Trump’s own stupidity. If he dies, it won’t be a tragedy. It will be a case of simple stupidity and he will forever be remembered for that.
Nothing the White House trots our about his health can be trusted. It’s already been shown they will not be honest.
Nothing the White House trots our about his health can be trusted. It’s already been shown they will not be honest.
And yet when given actual evidence proving President Trump was right about the nightmare scandal that Clinton, DNC, Russia, FBI/IC/DOJ inflicted on this country for the last 4 years, you and your ilk are still pumping lies. You have no shame and you certainly have no credibility on a legal blog.
First, apologize to President Trump and the American people for supporting the Democrat/Russia collusion coup. Then and only then should we move on to your next disastrous, false allegation. We may even find a moment for this bs.
You don’t trust it and you don’t count. since you are hiding out in a covid cave for the duration. maybe you could take up playing video games to kill the time, eh svelaz? because you need to come up with something better in your comments than this. however, i took the time to read it, since it was long, and usually yours are short. so good try
I am watching people I once believed were rational (physicians) let fear dominate their lives. They have listened to the news for so long that they have lost perspective. But this is what the news is designed to do, isn’t it? No amount of science based fact will persuade them differently. I appreciate the president advocating against fear. Fear of the virus has led to so many adverse and unintended consequences. Years of learning lost for school children, increases in suicides and mental illness, premature deaths due to a lack of access to healthcare during the lockdowns are only a few. And in reality we are much better at treating this disease. It is a risk to the elderly and to those with lifestyle diseases. Those are the ones who should have a healthy fear of the disease but for the rest of us to bow to the fear that the non-medical media would instill in us is insanity. JT you need to read more, get a healthier perspective on what is happening in this country and how things might have worked out differently if we were a European country without lockdowns. And just as an aside (as a physician myself) masks are not effective at preventing this disease but what they do do is encourage us to go out more and believe that we are safe because we are wearing a mask. The medical litereature does not support the efficacy of masks and the experience of several European countries reflects the same.
” . . .Washington Post columnist and MSNBC commentator Jennifer Rubin appeared to become utterly unglued over the release . . ” Yeh, well . . . . That’s Jennifer being Jennifer. She woulda been overjoyed if her president had been in total misery, desperately clinging to life on a ventilator . . .
We’ve had a pretty good idea since the data on the Diamond Princess passengers was largely complete that the danger was to people over 60 and people over 50 with a high BMI. We’ve had a pretty good idea since about the 3d week of June that transmission in open air is quite unusual. Both of these observations should have informed policy over the last four months. Large indoor gatherings and packed indoor gatherings should be subject to restriction or prohibition. Close contact service provision should be subject to restriction. Masks should be required indoors. High-risk employees should be furloughed (w/ special unemployment compensation) or put on work-from home. Otherwise, life should be proceeding as normal.
Rubin put her name on something you’re seeing in fora like this: masses of a**holes (few of them physicians) second-guessing the President’s doctors. The most obtrusive offender was one James P. Phillips, MD, who is employed at the GW medical center. It doesn’t seem to occur to him that a man under 24 / 7 protection is going to expose his bodyguards and nothing can be done about that other than mitigation strategies which incorporate rotating Secret Service agents over 50 to other duties and providing protective equipment in the presence of the President and the First Lady. Phillips tweets without thinking anything through, and his denunciation of the President’s courtesy call on his well-wishers is broadcast relentlessly by our vile media.
right the mass media are totally stupid. duh, he has bodyguards all the time and there is nothing to stop them from being exposed. quit the fake outrage, fake news
I think Pierre Omidyar or which ever liberal gazillionaire has Jennifer Rubin on his patronage has told her that her job is to move the Overton window by saying things that are insane. When you’re 58 years old and haven’t practiced law in 15 years, it’s a living.
“Many of us have denounced the statement as absolutely reckless for a president to make in the middle of a pandemic. ”
Then many of you are ridiculous. If truck drivers let fear control them, many of you would be starving right now. Not me, because I am sort of a prepper and have a bunch of food and ammo and stuff.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
The president did go on to warn the nation to be careful. Do not fear driving, but be careful when you. I do not find much wrong here.
Steve Brown, the problem is he’s only doing that now after getting the scare of his life. He didn’t say that when the pandemic started. He claimed it was a Democrat hoax made to hurt him.
He knew how bad it was long before his new “journey”.
Woodward’s tapes show trump talking about the virus in the direst of terms while publicly lying to the nation.
When he’s already lying about benign this virus is and acknowledging in private how much worse it really is fear is justified. Trump is the one handling this like an incompetent boob. People have a reason to be fearful because the administration is not being honest with the people.
exactly driving is still the most dangerous thing we do every day. and people are entirely too casual about that.
NHTSA: “There were 36,096 fatalities in motor vehicle traffic crashes in 2019. This represents a decrease of 739 (down 2%) from the reported 36,835 fatalities in 2018.”
If you’re going to look at health effects other than dying, then I wouldn’t be surprised if substance abuse and unhealthy diets cause more health problems than driving.
did you know that in the year after 9/11 there were 1500+ excess deaths from driving, simply because people chose not to fly?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/sep/05/september-11-road-deaths
there is only so much we can do as either individuals or even well ordered societies, to avoid death. why? because it is the natural consequence of living. we begin dying on our first day and it is only a matter of time. people live in denial of this and when public health scares break out they scatter like roaches away from the one thing and fall into the fatal embrace of another.
it’s best to stay calm and take measured and reasonable responses to threats based on empirical data which are contextually accurate
the problem with a lot of the covid scaremongering is that it is contextually inaccurate. facts exist but not in isolation from other facts. wisdom reckons all that’s relevant
I agree that driving can be dangerous. My dad was killed in an accident caused by another driver. I had to replace my car recently after it was totaled when a truck ran into me. I was just questioning your claim that “driving is still the most dangerous thing we do every day.” I just did a search on [annual diet related deaths united states] and it looks like diet contributes to ~500K premature deaths annually in the U.S., via obesity, diabetes, increased risk for heart attack. etc.
diet related diseases like obesity and diabetes are huge killers indeed. excuse me now if I hope on my high horse again and take aim at one of my usual targets, silicon valley
while the silicon valley execs and hotshots live healthy lives with lots of exercise and outdoor activity, and their vegan chefs cooking up swell stuff at home for them, the other 99.99% of the population gets more and more sedentary and sicker, as all eyes are glued to electronic devices that make these cretins richer than ever.
the sinister psychological impetus of “plus ones” and “likes” drives dopamine addicted slothfulness and it all slides ever farther downhill. and the isolation has made it worse
mortality from opiod overdoses has gone up during covid. naturally,. addicts self medicating to soothe the pain of existence made worse by isolation
https://www.ama-assn.org/system/files/2020-09/issue-brief-increases-in-opioid-related-overdose.pdf
one imagines alcohol abuse is probably up too.
suicides are too, and they were already growing steadily
i heard a pathologist say recently that car accidents were down in 2020, naturally, with people driving less
you folks will be glad to know global co2 emissions are down too.
heck, if we had a really lethal virus pandemic, you might get enough dieoff to reach your “carbon neutral” steady state of emissions. but that will take a couple billion or so I have read. maybe covid-20 will get you that population control the Left has been clamoring for since Paul Erlich wrote his famous book?
gee i wonder if the Chicoms have knocked off their gain of function experiments or not. i doubt it. Obama’s best directive: cease funding of gain of functions experiments in ’14
why trump admin reversed it? seems like a poor choice to me. and finally they say they will reconsider
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/01/after-criticism-federal-officials-revisit-policy-reviewing-risky-virus-experiments
“Don’t let it dominate your life.”
The democrat machine and the media have been letting Covid dominate their lives. This is a disease that kills the elderly and sick. By the criteria of this loon Rubin we should shut the entire country down every time Influenza hits the nation. Influenza creates a higher mortality rate for younger segments of the country.
The President’s statement was measured and even follows the infections disease protocols people talk about so frequently.
I happen to appreciate The presidents remarks. As a Nation we can’t live in constant fear. We must continue on and live life. I am in that 69yr. Age and I refuse to live my life in fear. Sure we have to be careful but I am not gonna let my life be governed by the media’s constant outrage over fear. It has hurt so many ppl I know personally. Mentally/emotionally.
I would rather be positive in life and keep moving ahead than let it control my whole life. I want a leader that looks at life that way then one that is soo fearful!!
President Trump has done a lot to get medicines available to help if someone does contract it.
We can’t live life in a bubble. Takes Courage sometimes to still live life and not live in a attitude of Fear. Life is Risky. To me that’s life. The news media has soooo spread Fear just to hurt this President. !!
It’s refreshing that he doesn’t buy it all. Nothing he does is any good for the Mainstream Media.
Our country lacks Gratitude!! Appreciation for what we do have. I sure don’t think he’s reckless. Life happens even if you are doing your Best.!! That’s life. I would rather be positive then and go through it with a positive attitude then just live fearfully.
Doesn’t help a person a Bit!!!
Here is what makes the Democrats really scared. I mean they’re already so scared of bad words we have all this political correctness krap. No. What scares them is this:
THE AVERAGE REPUBLICAN IS NOT AFRAID TO DIE
think about it Democrats. Think about what that means if you want to keep on doubling down on your mischief and dirty tricks.
Aren’t idiotic liberals always telling us how much better the Swiss are than us? Seems they did it right.
When you say “idiotic liberals,” you’re repeating yourself!
The vast majority of the deaths associated with covid19 were early on and many of those deaths were more attributable to early mismanagement Of the infected. With the advancement in the effectiveness of therapeutics in the treatment of covid19 quoting FDR is obviously appropriate when in fact, at this point, it’s true.
You’re wrong that “The vast majority of the deaths associated with covid19 were early on.”
Here’s a graph of COVID deaths in the U.S. over time compared to a few other countries:
https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/5f7bbc99abae6b16d2606129/960×0.jpg
Many Americans cannot afford good health care, and over 210,000 Americans are dead.
Many Americans cannot afford good health care, and over 210,000 Americans are dead.
And 40% of the dead were people billeted in nursing homes.
Being able to ‘afford good care’ has never been the issue here or anywhere else.
Do all 100% count for you, or only the 40% you want to focus on?
Trump’s an obese 74 year old with other health problems. What would the outcome be for him if he were an average American instead of someone being tested daily and getting the country’s best care?
Trumps outcome was at least 95% survival and based on his activities and outlook probably a lot higher. The 40% DSS was talking about might even be higher. It also doesn’t include all of those elderly not in nursing homes but aren’t in much better condition.
The important thing is that Covid should not be dominating our lives. For the young and healthy the risk after infection is likely smaller or the same as the risk of Influenza. We have probably lost multiples of life years because of the lock downs. Those life years lost are the unseen portion described by Bastiat. http://bastiat.org/en/twisatwins.html #1
The sharpest increase in deaths according to your graph was between ~50 – ~100 days into the infection.
Most of the world can’t afford perfect healthcare. The healthcare provided in America is quite good and for Covid it is significantly better than our western friends as are most of our outcomes. Our survival rates for Covid are rising rapidly.
A lot of the earlier deaths were due to incompetence. A number of democrat state governors mixed Covid positive patients with nursing home patients. That increased the spike early on. Cuomo and DeBlasio made other mistakes as well increasing the death count.
The sharpest increase doesn’t mean the majority. Anonymous was talking about the majority, and that’s what I addressed. If you’ve studied calculus, it’s the difference between a derivative and an integral.
Steve, I recognize that and the calculus involved. The greatest rate ~50- ~100 days had the greatest number of deaths in a specific time frame and that was early on. I think that is important when dealing with the virus. However, if I had to choose an answer I might prefer what you said. But the statement wasn’t clearly defined so your response sounded like it could be a gotcha.
I think “The vast majority of the deaths associated with covid19 were early on” is quite clear, Allan, and he’s wrong.
Not when you divide it up into periods of time.
A vast majority is well over half. Half is about 105,000, so a lot more than that. It took about 3.5 months from the first confirmed Covid death until 105,000 had died from Covid, and it took longer than that to reach well over 105,000. We’re talking about 8.5 months total.
The vast majority of deaths in a time period is not necessarily 105,000. It is based on the size of the time frame. Though originally I said I preferred your answer the other explanation is reasonable for the situation. The more you fight the more it seems the reason you responded to the other person’s reply is that you were more interested in a gotcha than in understanding what he was saying.
Right, the vast majority of deaths is not necessarily 105,000, it’s MORE.
Anonymous, if we were talking about your brain half or a quarter wouldn’t matter. You don’t have one.
The time frame is the entire time, unless someone specifies a different time frame. What different time frame do you think he was talking about? Very few deaths occurred early on, as the virus hadn’t spread yet.
Steve, I don’t know why but you are essentially arguing with yourself. I initially told you that I would choose your answer rather than the other one, but the other one standing on its own wasn’t totally incorrect. You assume he wasn’t talking about a time frame but most of the people that say what he said remember the numbers mounting in the early days of Covid. That is when NY and areas close to it racked up numbers that were extremely high so that today those areas by far lead in the death toll when calculated on a per million people basis.
Steve was not reading yesterday when I posted the articles about how well the disease curve looks in the poorest countries on earth like Lesotho, and those marginally above like the Republic of South Africa. Why? Young populations for one, but maybe also because they are already approaching herd immunity
Herd immunity is the goal. A vaccine is a way to bridge forward to herd immunity. The lockdowns are counterproductive and so is all the hysteria.
Masks and reasonable restrictions are fine to flatten the curve, but there is nothing we can do to wholly atomize society into cubicles that will stop the spread for months more until a vaccine comes online. More people will get sick and a small percentage will die. there is not now anything we can do to stop that overarching reality
“Jennifer Rubin appeared to become utterly unglued”
“To become”? Isn’t it her usual condition?
Mao……….Do you realize how many horses it would take to keep Jennifer “glued”?! It would be major equine-o-cide!