Witness: Joe Biden Was “The Big Guy” [Updated]

A former business partner to Hunter Biden, Tony Bobulinski, has made a bombshell statement that not only are the emails on the Biden laptop authentic but the reference to giving a cut to “the big guy” was indeed a reference to former Vice President Joe Biden. More emails are emerging that show Hunter Biden referring to his family as his asset in these dealings.

The emails that have attracted the most attention refer to an actual meeting of Joe  Biden with these foreign figures and one referring to a proposed equity split of “20” for “H” and “10 held by H for the big guy?” Bobulinski confirms that “H” was used for Hunter Biden and that his father was routinely called “the big guy” in these discussions.

Another email Bobulinski being instructed by James Gilliar not to make any mention of the former veep’s involvement: “Don’t mention Joe being involved, it’s only when u [sic] are face to face, I know u [sic] know that but they are paranoid.”

 Bobulinski said he was brought on as CEO by Hunter Biden and James Gilliar and stated that he believes Joe Biden was lying in denying any knowledge of these dealings, stating Hunter “frequently referenced asking him for his sign-off or advice on various potential deals.”  He added that “The Biden family aggressively leveraged the Biden family name to make millions of dollars from foreign entities even though some were from communist controlled China.”

His statement reads in part:

I am the CEO of Sinohawk Holdings which was a partnership between the Chinese operating through CEFC/Chairman Ye and the Biden family. I was brought into the company to be the CEO by James Gilliar and Hunter Biden. The reference to “the Big Guy” in the much publicized May 13, 2017 email is in fact a reference to Joe Biden. The other “JB” referenced in that email is Jim Biden, Joe’s brother.

Hunter Biden called his dad ‘the Big Guy’ or ‘my Chairman,’ and frequently referenced asking him for his sign-off or advice on various potential deals that we were discussing. I’ve seen Vice President Biden saying he never talked to Hunter about his business. I’ve seen firsthand that that’s not true, because it wasn’t just Hunter’s business, they said they were putting the Biden family name and its legacy on the line.

I realized the Chinese were not really focused on a healthy financial ROI. They were looking at this as a political or influence investment. Once I realized that Hunter wanted to use the company as his personal piggy bank by just taking money out of it as soon as it came from the Chinese, I took steps to prevent that from happening.

This is obviously just one side and the documents do not show a direct role or benefit for Joe Biden. However, it would seem that between the FBI statement and this witness statement, there is ample foundation for media scrutiny.  Yet, organizations like NPR has dismissed the story on Thursday as a “distraction.”

In prior columns and in my testimony in the Trump impeachment, I asked if the Ukraine allegations against Trump would be different if the Congress believed that there was influence peddling or pay-to-play schemes by the Biden family. As I wrote in September 2019:

Despite efforts of critics to downplay the underlying allegations, the Biden affair would be relevant to the merits of such a trial. If Trump simply picked up the phone and asked a foreign leader to investigate Elizabeth Warren without any outstanding allegations of corruption, it would be impossible to defend. The problem here is that the Biden contracts do appear to involve corruption, precisely the type that Biden lambasted when he bragged about getting the Ukrainian prosecutor fired.

If one agrees that the windfall contracts secured by Hunter Biden were obvious influence peddling, then Trump pushing for an investigation into that possible crime becomes more defensible. It does not, however, make it right. Trump clearly tripped another wire for possible impeachment, immediately after the special counsel made his final report on prior controversies. Congress is justified in investigating, and the transcript is not the entirety of the evidence that might show the intent or act or corruption. All this is why House Democrats still need to find the quid.

I have written for years that Hunter Biden was clearly influence peddling and he contradicted his father’s denial of any knowledge of his dealings.  The media can continue to hold its breath for weeks to try to avoid the obvious in this story.  That could well guarantee Biden the presidency but it will destroy the media’s credibility for years.

189 thoughts on “Witness: Joe Biden Was “The Big Guy” [Updated]”

  1. When will comrade Christopher Wray, dutiful soldier of the communist Deep Deep State and co-conspirator in the Obama Coup D’etat in America, investigate and reveal which democrats requested of China that it release “China Flu, 2020” from its Wuhan Institute of Virology in a presidential election year?

    C’mon, man!

    America is waiting for the truth.

    1. Missdirector of the FBI, Christopher Wray, “Truth, we don’t need no stinking truth!!!”

  2. S-M-O-K-I-N-G G-U-N
    ___________________

    “Just the facts, Ma’am.”

    – Joe Friday
    _________

    “20” for “H” and “10 held by H for the big guy?”

  3. With every new bit of evidence pointing to Democrat collusion and corruption with China it is becoming increasingly clear why Democrats never mention China in connection with the Chinese plague ravaging the entire planet.

  4. Mr. Turly, for a guy who goes around like your poop don’t stink. Poking your finger into this nasty mess just 12 days before the election most certainly reeks of it.

    1. What I admire about Leftists is their refined sense of courtesy, style and simple decency.

    2. It’s called integrity and honoring an oath. I don’t recall anywhere in that oath requiring anyone to ignore it before, during or after an election.

  5. Where’s Joe? Avoiding the press again?

    Joe Biden has run his entire presidential campaign without actually campaigning and without having to answer more than a handful of pre-screened softball questions from the media on a handful of rare occasions. Kamala Harris has yet to hold a press conference and answer questions since she was selected as VP on the ticket. The Biden/Harris campaign hiding from and avoiding the any press scrutiny is unaccetable …. and the media’s complicity in allowing it? It is shameful and entirely unacceptable.

  6. What, no mention of the Trump children’s nepotism and corruption here? Remember when Trump was going to separate himself from his businesses and have his sons run them? Spoiler alert – he hasn’t. If you want access to Trump, you need to pony up a $200,000 per year membership to Mar-a-Lago. That money goes into Trump’s pocket. If Qatar wants Trump to back off a blockade of that country, they needed to pony up hundreds of millions to Jared’s building project. If Ivanka meets with the Chinese President, a Chinese trademark appears the next day.

    This is the most corrupt family regime in the history of the country, by far. In this context, anyone outside of the Trump bubble laughs at what they are accusing Hunter of.

  7. “Don’t mention Joe being involved, it’s only when u are face to face,” Biden family associate James Gilliar—the head of J2cR—says in one WhatsApp text message that Bobulinski provided to the Senate committees. “I know u know that but they are paranoid.”
    *****************************
    Is this epitaph too long to carve onto Sleepy’s Joe’s headstone?

  8. Biden v Trump Debate Strategy? How many minutes for back and forth on the laptop scandal, if any, and when?

    Mespo727272 says Trump should bring the matter up “early and often.” He may be right, both strategically and predictively.

    I am more cautious. I wonder if Trump shouldn’t bring it up only during the sixth segment, when he can focus his pressure on the issue to a carefully worded closing argument.

    Biden must be prepared to defend against either extreme.

    “The topics slated for discussion over 90 uninterrupted minutes, beginning at 9 p.m. ET, include “Fighting COVID-19,” “American Families,” “Race in America,” “Climate Change,” “National Security” and “Leadership.””

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/22/politics/presidential-debate-tonight/index.html

    1. I’d mention this too: ““Don’t mention Joe being involved, it’s only when u are face to face,” Biden family associate James Gilliar—the head of J2cR—says in one WhatsApp text message that Bobulinski provided to the Senate committees. “I know u know that but they are paranoid.” Very Don Corleone! You think he was in the olive oil business with Hunter’s father?

  9. Joe Biden will continue to say his son “did nothing wrong.” Even if the corruption was “legal,” is it okay because this is what they all do in Washington DC? This kind of corruption is legal and they all do it, so therefore Hunter did “nothing wrong,” and therefore Joe Biden did nothing wrong, and therefore he and his family have nothing to explain or answer for? It’s just how “The Swamp” operates in Washington? They all do it?

    How on earth is Joe Biden NOT compromised by all of this ‘Biden family business’? The Bidens have made hundred of millions of dollars cashing in all over the world on the family ‘brand name’ that made them all multi-millionaires. At least the Heinz family made their fortune selling ketchup. Joe Biden’s family made their fortune selling Biden, Inc. and selling out America in the process.

    It’s unreal that this was going on when Joe Biden was VP. It is impossible to believe Joe Biden did not know. It disqualifies Joe Biden from ever becoming president.

    Is this really where the press is going with this? Nothing to see here. It’s all just ‘vile, baseless conspiracy theories being spread about Hunter’…..and that’s the extent of their “reporting” on this enormous scandal?

    1. It’s called “corruption by proxy” which is why none of this money will ever show up in Joe Biden’s tax returns. “The big guy” gets his kickback.

      Ever wonder why Joe Biden spends so much time talking about being one of the “poorest member of Congress”? Joe loves to tell that story about being so poor. Joe Biden nicknamed himself Middle Class Joe to make voters believe he’s working hard for the little guy, the blue collar workers. Why does he talk about being Lunch Box Joe so much? It’s his guilty conscience. ‘Corruption by proxy’ explains the whole family business.

      1. Anon: “corruption by proxy”

        Yep. With one of those proxies being the Penn Biden Center at UPenn, which since 2016 has received some $22 million from “anonymous” donors in China. To date, Joe Biden’s cut is about $900,000. (All sources are publicly available.)

        It’d be nice if those concerned about Trump releasing his tax returns, were equally concerned about Joe Biden releasing the names of the “anonymous” donors to his family’s various nonprofits.

    2. How on earth is Donald Trump NOT compromised by all of this ‘Trump family business’?

      It’s unreal that Trump’s kids are conducting Trump family business when Trump is President. It is impossible to believe Trump does not know. It disqualifies Trump from ever being reelected.

  10. “The Free Press” John Swinton on the Free Press

    “One night, probably in 1880, John Swinton, then the preeminent New York journalist, was the guest of honour at a banquet given him by the leaders of his craft. Someone who knew neither the press nor Swinton offered a toast to the independent press. Swinton outraged his colleagues by replying:
    “There is no such thing, at this date of the world’s history, in America, as an independent press. You know it and I know it.
    There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper I am connected with.
    Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job. If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone.
    The business of the journalists is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press?
    We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.”
    (Source: Labor’s Untold Story, by Richard O. Boyer and Herbert M. Morais, published by United Electrical, Radio & Machine Workers of America, NY, 1955/1979.)

    Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas

    “The press is a gang of cruel [f*ggots]. Journalism is not a profession or a trade. It is a cheap catch-all for
    [fu***ffs] and misfits—a false doorway to the backside of life, a filthy piss-ridden little hole nailed off by the building inspector, but just deep enough for a wino to curl up from the sidewalk and masturbate like a chimp in a zoo-cage.”
    (Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas)

    The so-called “Fourth Estate”
    exhibits itself as mere “gossip gluttonous gromlins” and “rapacious rumor rats.”
    In a word, presstitutes.

    Presstitute is a term that applies to journalism that is misleadingly tailored to fit a particular partisan, financial or business agenda. Coined by Gerald Celente, the word is a portmanteau of press and prostitute.

    Offensiveness is a necessary consequence of opinions strongly held and openly expressed, and free societies should treasure and protect it. An idea that offends no one is not worth entertaining.

    The so-called “free press” exists as a childish delusion. The delusion serves to keep the public fat, dumb and happy.

    Generally, the delusion works exceedingly well in the United States. Why?

    We, “Americans!” are exceptional.

    dennis hanna

  11. Turley is a tool. This is not the 1st time the press has decided to not run salacious and so far unsourced information close to an election amd the most recent example was to the benefit of Turley’s candidate:
    .
    ” In September they (Fusion GPS) arranged a private meeting between Steele and reporters from The Washington Post, The New York Times, The New Yorker, ABC News, and other outlets. The results were disappointing, as none published any stories before the election.[56]

    Jane Mayer has described how, in “late summer, Fusion set up a series of meetings, at the Tabard Inn, in Washington, between Steele and a handful of national-security reporters. … Despite Steele’s generally cool manner, he seemed distraught about the Russians’ role in the election.” Mayer attended one of the meetings. None of these news organizations ran any stories about the allegations at that time.[21]

    Only two sources mentioned allegations, which we now know came from dossier reports, before the election. Steele had been in contact with both authors. These were a September 23, 2016, Yahoo! News article by Michael Isikoff which focused on Carter Page,[104] and an article by David Corn on October 31, 2016, a week before the election, in Mother Jones magazine.[81]….”

    Footnote links at the article.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steele_dossier#Hints_of_existence

    1. Gainesville:

      I guess you see the noose tightening on Joey, so here’s a rule of thumb on the probability of culpability to help you in the future:

      If the Dims allege wrongdoing of others,its because they did it first and it’s false.

      If the Repubs allege wrongdoing, it’s because they’d like to do it but some Dim got there first.

      If a citizen does it and isn’t paid by the first two groups in some way, it’s likely true –doubly so if it involves DC, the Red Chinese or a Dim politician.

  12. The major media (NPR, CBS, ABC, CNN, etc!) keep saying “it can’t be verified” so they are not “reporting the story” about Hunter’s laptop and so they are sitting on the whole story? While Joe Biden ‘calls a lid’ for the entire week and goes into hiding ‘preparing for the debate’ for a whole week without answer questions?? It’s unreal.

    Here’s a clue for the media that doesn’t want to “verify” the Hunter Biden email story: ASK JOE BIDEN a freakin’ question and do not stop asking until her answers!

    What is the matter with these people?

    They are corrupt Fake News covering up for Joe Biden. Everyone can see it now.

      1. ‘For those keeping score, today’s Bobulinski statement means

        a) the emails are real – well, duh
        b) ‘H’ was ‘holding’ 10% for ‘the big guy’
        c) ‘the big guy’ is Joe Biden
        d) Joe Biden was lying about not knowing
        e) Bobulinski has flipped, so more to come’

        @johnwhuber

    1. A search on NPR, CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, and several others return exactly zero (combined results) stories about Tony Bobulinski. Not a single, even passing, mention of his name. To their credit, MSN, Yahoo, and the Washington Times do cover Mr. Bobulinski’s statement.

      It’s almost as if the entire DNC propaganda machine that refer to themselves as “media” or “journalists” have an assiduous and universal utter lack of interest in, or curiosity about, any and all things that would cast (to use Mr. Schumer’s favorite word) a scintilla of aspersion on the candidate they are too heavily invested in to back away from now. It certainly seems they have all agreed to stick their collective… … … heads in the sand for the next 12 days. Even then, they’re extremely unlikely to repent and reform in the days, weeks, months, years, or even decades after 3-NOV-2020.

      It is not enough that they have actively killed journalism. They appear to have found a way to reanimate it’s corpse and act as if nothing happened. A sort of zombie journalism, as it were, which explains how they all act in absolute concert–they are given ideas and marching orders, and dutiful carry them out. I suppose it also explains their disinterest in this story. The reanimation process must have found a way to change them from constantly braying “BBbbrrrraaaiiins” to instead cry “RussisRussiaRussia” incessantly.

  13. In honor of Navy Lt. Bobulinski, and good, decent sailors everywhere…… (by the most incredible British Band,ever……imo)

    1. Ms. Bragg, outstanding!

      When music was music; when artists were artists,when musicians were musicians and lyricists were lyricists.

      I immediately went and found my vinyl record and played the entire album … three times.

      Then, I picked up guitar, strummed along and sang along.

      Mahalo.
      dennis hanna

      1. “When music was music; when artists were artists,when musicians were musicians and lyricists were lyricists…” and albums routinely included 4:43 long songs that highlighted all of the above!

        Meanwhile pop song generators are going out to buy more bubblegum.

      2. Dennis….Glad you like procol! You’re so right!…I’ve got all the vinyls too. Here’s a fabulous recording in Denmark in 2006…concert with Danish choir and orchestra…Salty Dog had been re done with the choir singing Latin at the beginning. Outstanding,…. Brooker at his best! The only difference, the original drummer, BJ Wilson died in 1990. His drums in Salty Dog were never replicated, imo. He was the best. RIP BJ Wilson

  14. Professor Turley should investigate the story by Ken Silverstein titled “And the Winner of the ‘War on Terror’ financed dream home giveaway is….” published by the http://www.theintercept.com on 12-31-14. Law & Order is based on looking back to use legal precedent. Since we are looking back, we should all try to support Equal Justice Under Law.

    1. wonder if that’s the same Ken Silverstein that tried to expose Morris Dees as the fraud he was eventually proven to be and fired last year from SPLC- Silverstein called it many years before– in the article from Harper’,s “the Church of Morris Dees”

  15. ’60 Minutes sat on a story in 2012 showing Pres. Obama refusing to call the attack in Benghazi a terrorist attack, contrary to what Obama (and Candy Crowley) said in a debate. Huge news, no coverage. Today, MSM is doing same with the Biden laptop story. No coverage. Huge bias.’ (ari fleischer)

  16. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8866713/Hunter-Bidens-ex-business-partner-says-Joe-Biden-talked-son-deal-Chinese-firm.html

    Hunter Biden’s ex-business partner says Joe DID know about son’s deal with Chinese energy firm and IS ‘the big guy’ in email set to get 10% cut of the deal
    Tony Bobulinski said he was Hunter Biden’s business partner in 2017
    Bobulinski said Hunter brought him into joint venture with Chinese energy firm
    Hunter Biden was involved with China’s largest private energy company CEFC
    He was given equity, ownership of a holding company and huge consulting fees
    He also allegedly held a share of the equity for his father Joe Biden
    Sources told Fox News that a person identified only as ‘the big guy’ in an email about equity payments was the former Vice President
    Hunter was dealing with CEFC chairman Ye Jianming who has since vanished
    Bobulinski said in his statement that ‘the big guy’ was indeed Joe Biden
    He also confirmed authenticity of emails recovered from Hunter Biden’s laptop

  17. Wow! Right on cue for tonight’s sh(t show, starring Donald Trump. Team Trump has decided that since he cannot run on his record–i.e. — 8 million Americans contracting COVID, almost 250,000 dead, 10+% unemployment rate, economy in shambles, massive evictions and foreclosures, the “art of the deal” dealmaker unable to arrive at a deal for COVID relief, and trade deficit worst in 14 years, so we must pivot to try to make Joe Biden look bad. First, they tried the “crackhead Hunter is influence-peddling” theme, but that didn’t fly. Next, they tried “sleepy Joe is senile”, and not only did that not fly, it offended a key Republican demographic–senior citizens. Now, we’re back to “crackhead Hunter is influence-peddling”, which Trump will try to interject instead of responding to questions. Turley is nothing more than another media outlet for Team Trump.

    How about talking about more-relevant matters involving China and presidential candidates, Turley? How about Trump’s bank accounts in China and dealings with Chinese companies?

    1. Trump’s an international businessman seeking licensing deals. Perfectly legal for him to have a Chinese bank account and pay some taxes there if the government claimed they were due.

      Hunter Biden was no international businessman. Not until “Pops” got the VP slot that is and they begin “Foreign Corrupt Practices” of self enrichment

      imagine whatever you like Natch, the adults in the room are delving into FACTS

  18. Off topic, sort of:

    What ever happened with the warden and guards in the Epstein death?

    Punished or rewarded?

    Wondering because Biden’s jailed whistleblower is now worried for his safety. Does he have the same sterling folks ‘guarding’ him?

    1. You are aware, aren’t you, that Epstein was in a FEDERAL facility. Who runs the Federal government now? Surely not Hillary Clinton. So if anyone had him offed, this would have been Trump, not Democrats.

      1. Ha, Trump does not know what CIA does. Not the half of it. They keep them in the dark. To a degree that is legit. but they keep them really in the dark. Mushroom treatment.

        To some degree, the Presidents only pretend to run CIA. And FBI too it seems at times. Though, I have to admire Obama’s hold on them. Or was it they who held on to him?

        This was the lesson we take from JFK.

      2. Natch– Ever hear of Col Vindman or Agent Strzok or other plague rats like them in the federal government?

        1. Vindman has more patriotism and ethics in his pinky than you do in your entire body, Young.

    2. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/correctional-officers-supervised-jeffery-epstein-night-suicide-indicted/story?id=67119576

      2 guards indicted for falsifying federal documents

      watch that case for a long time. a year or two from now it may get dropped

      i would lay odds “men in black” came in that night with national security letters in hand and told them to do it.

      will they dare say this in their own defense? would we dare? I doubt it.
      jail is a lesser penalty than death and if they keep yaps shut their families may get bags of cash when it all blows over
      the “Men in Black” can visit jails anytime they want and keep their presence off the books

      and have the surveillance scrubbed too

      1. Kurtz– At one time your speculation would be outrageous. Now it sounds like a perfectly reasonable possibility. The simplest explanation for much that has happened is that many in the DC Establishment are either incompetent or corrupt or both with ‘both’ sounding more probable every day.

        1. I have no special insight but I do have an idea of how operations like that can be accomplished and successfully covered up.

          and we can see that somehow the relevant surveillance video was deleted. in my thinking, this confirms my “men in black” hypothesis, at least to a degree

          https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/09/jail-video-of-jeffrey-epsteins-first-suicide-attempt-was-deleted.html

          “spoliation of evidence” is the legal principle i draw upon. kind of like how the DOJ “lost” the front door to Waco– which was the key physical evidence that could have confirmed their allegation that the Branch Dravidians fired on them first. But they “lost” it. “spoliation of evidence” is the idea.

        2. to further elaborate, it generally does not occur that the federal government which has a “witness protection program” that they use to manufacture false identities and legends to protect their snitches, which I will agree is a necessity of law enforcement methods that can’t be eliminated, but, it can also be, MISUSED.

          How? what do i have in mind?

          Well, anybody like these guards can be tossed in jail and then shortly extracted from jail covertly. They are in federal custody and so are the BOP records.

          It’s probably not necessary with small charges like this, but, perhaps for a higher value defendant, all they need to do is the same two-step dance they do with snitches.

          a. they plead guilty and get sent off to whatever federal jail or prison. and by the way, the federal government houses their inmates in county and state facilities too, all over the country, where they lack space. so they can send them to jail and create the first record

          b. then they manufacture the new identity and legend and use the program to go buy a house and get the fellow some lame job like truck driver or cook or whatever. They do this as a matter of due course with the program day in and day out.

          c. after people move on and forget, they cut the prisoner loose and give him a new identity. he goes on and maybe his family too and they may be even better off than before. Maybe the guard gets a pay raise as a truck driver. and it all works out see?

          d. maybe they keep a record of incarceration on their books and the guy is not really in jail at all. see, they can do that.

          e. who follows up? journalists? they don’t care about the stories dangling in front of them every day, why would they bother following up on verifying where some ex con former guard is two or three years from now. IE after the conviction BOP can keep a false record of incarceration on the book and then cut him loose the next day for his “new life” and nobody may ever detect it or care.

          How do you verify things like this? Well you would need access to audit trails for record changes, that’s how. And considering that the Witness Protection program has executive level ability both to change those records and cover the audit trails– NECESSARILY SO IN ORDER TO DO WHAT WE ALL KNOW THEY DO– they can not only use the program, but misuse it too.

          If people think that the US does not have the capability to do things such as this or that they don’t happen, then you are ignorant of how the methods of how the program works and naively lack the imagination to see how it can also be misused.,

          1. i meant to say it generally does not occur to people in the first line, omitted to people. people can’t imagine how things can be done, so, they pretend that it doesn’t happen. this is applicable to all kinds of human endeavor, not just crime or coverups, but business or things like engineering, too. most folks can’t imagine that such and such could happen, so they pretend that it is impossible. no not impossible, just the means of doing it escape the imagination of the average person, that’s all

            this is where “conspiracy theories” get a bad name– people think “oh that could never happen.” because THEY COULD NOT MAKE IT HAPPEN. well– some people have abilities which exceed those of others. they are called “experts” and they can get things done.

            likewise it is also why conspiracy theories do attract a number of nutjobs out there. because, and any shrink will confirm this, many nutjobs are actually quite imaginative and creative people. think of Van Gogh the famous bipolar for example.

            but just because something is hard, does not mean it is impossible, and just because it is hard, does not mean that it has not been done, or is not underway

            we have heard a lot recently about how “there is no evidence of voter fraud.,” and you are called a conspiracy theorist. and then when you give the evidence they call you a different name. it’s always name calling. we see this now in play with the biden foreign corrupt practices evidence being ignored. We are all “tools of Russian disinformation” rather than informed citizens asking good questions. And so forth.

            Folks, don’t let your brain stop working just because some arrogant jerk calls you a name.

            1. On the thought that they may be incompetent as well as crooked, Biden’s ex business partner received a text message warning him not to “mention Joe” in communications. They are almost like ‘hood rats who post videos of themselves committing crimes. But, then, they know that Wray is busy framing ‘white supremacists’ and giving empty news conferences so perhaps their lack of care is not so unreasonable after all.

          2. And that’s what they did with intelligence operative Epstein. They staged his death and gave him a secret new identity.

            1. possible lysias, you get my point.

              but I definitely do not have any information about that whatsoever. I am just speculating.

        3. The simplest explanation for much that has happened is that many in the DC Establishment are either incompetent or corrupt or both with ‘both’ sounding more probable every day.

          Young,
          The simplest explanation is that this is the norm and that only an insider was supposed to be elected president. Progressives have been building this criminal enterprise we call our government for 100 years and their plan was working right up until the Obama era. Obama wasn’t going to be content however to follow the trajectory that would keep the country ignorant and most importantly apathetic to the rise of the administrative state. No, he was going to have the unrecoverable progressive takeover of our government completed on his watch.

          He got the IC/FBI/DOJ, Big Tech, MSM under his control. He purged the military. He already had most colleges and universities indoctrinating the next generation. They got control of the K-12 curriculum to feed into those colleges/universities. He opened the floodgates for illegal migration into this country. He was even on his way with the courts. Where he pressed too hard was with Obamacare. That got people’s attention and most notably lit a fire under the Tea Party movement. Then the IRS scandal happened, which forced people to look at how our government operates. Then we got Benghazi and the American people got their first real look at the hideous Hillary Clinton and the corrupt relationship among the above agencies and the media. When Roberts amended the ACA instead of striking down the law as unconstitutional, the American people were now wide awake and active.

          The Democrats had no idea the extent to which the American people were disgusted with what they saw happening. They thought they could just anoint Clinton and she’d be running against the likes of Jeb Bush or John Kasich. They thought the nomination of Donald Trump would seal the deal. Clinton wouldn’t even need to campaign for electoral votes. And then BOOM!

          The entire weight of the corrupt, criminal enterprise has not been able to remove this outsider. One of two things will happen in this election. If the election is legitimate, Trump wins in a landslide and Republicans gain seats in the Senate and takeover the House. Down ticket will be a disaster for the Democrats. If Trump loses, then I expect the Senate to flip and the House gain seats. Down ticket will be a toss up. Progressivism will be back and on steroids.

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