There was an interesting moment on Monday as the hosts and guest on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” were discussing the coverage of the election. Willie Geist raised the possibility that President Trump could declare victory on election night before all the votes have been counted. Joe Scarborough responded that NBC would simply make a Twitter-like determination and not carry the speech. It would not be treated as obvious news but rather “disinformation” . . . regardless of what has transpired on election day.
What is ironic is the Geist had just slammed Trump for making plans to send in lawyers “no matter what happens.” Without missing a beat, Scarborough then announced that no matter what happens on the election (like a surprise victory), Trump’s speech would be blocked for NBC viewers.
“We’ll be doing coverage on Peacock and we can assure you if Trump declares victory we’ll say, don’t take the feed. It’s not going to happen. We won’t be part of any disinformation campaign, we’ll be doing election coverage until midnight or whenever is over.”
The point tracked a statement from Biden campaign manager Jen O’Malley Dillon who declared that “[u]nder no scenario will Donald Trump be declared a victor on election night, and that’s fundamentally how we want to approach tomorrow.” I can understand the mathematical point but the Biden campaign does not make such decision. Moreover, this appears only a bar on a Trump victory speech. Some Democrats like James Carville are predicting that they will know by 10 pm. I would find it difficult to see a scenario where an election night victory could be declared but we do not know what will occur today in terms of any surges or landslide. More importantly, the issue raised on Morning Joe goes to the coverage not the claims on election night.
I happen to like and respect Scarborough. I have defended him and his co-host and wife Mika Brzezinski after personal attacks from President Trump. However, this statement was unnerving. I understand what he and Geist are saying about the need to count many votes sent in by mail. The problem is that they are in the news business and NBC viewers tune in for news. This would be, by any measure, news. Indeed, if premature or completely baseless, a victory speech would be even more significant news.
What concerns me is the relative ease with which news figures now state their role in protecting viewers from what they consider “disinformation.” It is precisely the slippery slope that took us to the expanding private censorship on sites like Twitter and Facebook, where a well-founded story in the New York Post is blocked for weeks. Despite the tech companies admitting that the move was a mistake, Democratic Senators demanded more censorship from the companies in the recent hearing. What is missing is the original clarity of the free and open forum of the Internet.
Now a news program is pledging in advance to block its viewers from hearing the President directly if he claims victory on Tuesday night. Instead, they can expect the same formulaic, approved coverage that we now expect in the age of echo chamber journalism. NBC recently was criticized for a bait-and-switch story on Hunter Biden where they debunked an obscure document rather than address the confirmed emails found on Biden’s laptop.
Obviously, viewers on NBC can switch over to Fox or another network to watch any presidential speech on election night. However, Scarborough was assuring the viewers that they would be protected from such news. Clearly he viewed promising to censor the President as a draw for NBC’s viewers — assuring viewers that they would be protected from the news like some journalistic safe space. Protecting viewers from news was not a goal of NBC when I worked for the company many years ago. This would be news any way you cut it. It can be immediately followed by commentary pointing out that such a claim may be premature. However, we do not know “what will happen” on Tuesday night anymore than President Trump does beyond one guarantee . . . it will be news.
SNEAKY DEMOCRAT TRICKS– BAR COURT APPROVED TRUMP POLL WATCHER FROM POLLING PLACE IN PHILLY!
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1323702850711552001?s=20
what an outrage. infuriating Democrat lies, 4 years, now this!
Get out and vote BY GOD if you do not vote today if you are able, then you deserve the fate that awaits you
FOLKS DONT FORGET THESE DEMOCRAT IDEAS FOR 2020
DEFUND POLICE
so Democrat shock troops can riot and loot at will
ELIMINATE ICE BORDER PATROL
so the unfortunate poor of the third world can dash across our border and apply for Medicaid and other taxpayer funded program and take jobs
END FRACKING
so tens of thousands of oil workers can lose their jobs and America can go back to relying on Saudis for oil
END THE OIL INDUSTRY
so we can all ride bikes to work and eventually starve to death
because they think we’re just red state CO2 emitters anyhow!
RAISE TAXES
because Washington DC can spend your money wiser than you can!
VOTE REPUBLICAN TO RESTORE LAW ORDER AND PROSPERITY!
VOTE TRUMP!
Kurtz, when you;re down to lying, that says it all – you can’t support this creep without surrendering your dignity. There is no GOP platform this year. That says it all too,
No lies from me, I heard the debate. Kind of like Green new deal– first it’s informing Biden’s plan, then poof! its not. Which one is it?
First he says he will end fracking, then he says he will not! Well, which one was the lie, Joe Friday?
Don’t worry about a nobody like me lying, worry about your man Joe Biden lying! or not remembering his commitments from one day to the next at the very least.
But don’t worry, surely Kamala and her backers will shunt him aside in a year or so if he wins!
Everything you said was a lie Kurtz.
Biden has more money for COPS programs in his platform and no defunding advocated for any cops – remember when your party wasn’t a cult and you had a platform instead of a leader who musty be obeyed?
BIden is not advocating for ending Ice border patrols. He and Obama kicked out more illegals in their last 4 than Trump has.
He is for limiting fracking on federal lands, not private.
Biden recognizes we need to work toward a petroleum limited future or pay what we can’t afford.
If you make more than $400k he wants to raise your taxes. Maybe you think there’s free lunch.
Joe, you’re right, Kurtz sounds desperate today.
Turley’s at it again, trying to normalize a malignant narcissist who is out of control. First, Trumpy Bear decided he’s going to make a victory speech, no matter the outcome,no matter how premature. Joe Scarborough has said that NBC won’t air it because if it is premature, it is disinformation. If Trump hasn’t won because the votes haven’t been fully counted, then a premature “victory speech” IS disinformation and nothing more than the wishful ranting of someone with emotional problems who should be pitied and medicated. One thing it is certain: it’s not news, and Turley cannot morph it into news by criticizing Joe Scarborough.
FOLKS DONT FORGET
DEMOCRATS ARE APOLOGISTS AND CHEERLEADERS FOR RIOT, LOOTING AND ARSON
4 MONTHS OF IT MADE THAT CLEAR. here’s an example from the stuffed shirts at NPR, whining about how the looters oughta be able to take stuff, because, racisss!
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2020/08/27/906642178/one-authors-argument-in-defense-of-looting
vote REPUBLICAN FOR LAW AND ORDER
“a malignant narcissist who is out of control”
Yes, indeed.
“How Barack Obama Destroyed Libya”
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/06/02/how-barack-obama-destroyed-libya/
Yet Trump has done the opposite of Barry the Grifter, and not only has he refused to wage war, he has steadfastly continued to bring American soldiers back home.
So, it appears that you and Barry are the real malignant narcissists, Natacha.
At least you spelled my name right. Oh, and Obama isn’t running for anything this year.
Likely that the Liberals are promoting chaos, violence and shutting down America because they know their cause is dead. Much like Richmond was burned to the ground by Richmonders before the Union troops descended on the Confederates, the liberals want to “burning down the system”
Has Liberalism Failed? – Bishop Barron Presents: A Conversation Featuring Dave Rubin
Of course, the bishop realizes, doesn’t he, that when he starts talking politics he has crossed the line away from practicing religion and is no longer entitled to tax exempt status?
Catholics have every right to speak on politics. A priest is not barred from having an opinion. You’re some Catholic, first in line to spit on other Catholics! Pathetic
https://news.sky.com/story/vienna-terror-suspect-wore-a-bomb-belt-and-was-is-sympathiser-minister-says-12122320
But we can see how the Islamic migrants to France the past week, attack Catholic worshippers, chopping an old lady’s head off in Nice, murdering a Greek Orthodox priest in Lyon, and now murdering numerous people at a synagogue in Vienna! And remember who wanted to keep the Muslim refugees from sketchy countries out of America? And Democrats called him a bigot an xenophobe!
TRUMP– VOTE TRUMP TO PROTECT AMERICA
A priest or bishop can have whatever opinions they want, but when they start advocating for a political position, their tax-exempt status goes away because that’s not part of practicing a religion.
Not it does not “go away”
It only “goes away” if a tax authority says so and does not get reversed by a court who has a de novo review
But maybe you think it just goes POOF!”
Would the same thing happen to NAACP when its employees spout off about whom to vote for? er er er … no way.
Actually 501c3 losing its NFP status is a pretty rare event.
There is nothing in a 501c3 that is a gag order on employees of the 501c3s who CAN SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT
they just have limits on saying it as representatives of the institution itself
and moreover when it comes to religion, “Render unto Caeser” is often a question of perspective!
What a farce to run someone like Joe Biden: fragile, confused, going senile, and too corrupt and compromised to do the job. Voters are smarter than they think.
Trump is only a few years younger than Biden and yet he is smiling and dancing after doing four rallies on a single day. There is no comparison between Trump’s endless energy and Joe Biden’s obvious mental fragility and lack of stamina required for the job.
Want to bet that he’s still taking steroids?
It’s not “energy”: it’s mental illness, the pathological need for attention, praise and adulation from a deeply-flawed and sick person who needs help. I agree with Anonymous below. He’s likely still on steroids, or maybe amphetamine. He knows that it’s likely that the days of cheering crowds are over.
On the other hand, Joe Biden is neither frail nor senile. He rides a bicycle. Did you ever see your fat hero do that? He bounds up the stairs to the stage like a teenager, unlike your obese hero who needs a hand rail. Joe is slim and trim, and speaks of healing and unity, which this country desperately needs, instead of the rhetoric of hate and division.
Trump has the DRAGON ENERGY
https://www.newsweek.com/dragon-energy-donald-trump-kanye-west-901759
HALLELUJAH – IT’S GREAT TO BE ALIVE
Joe speaks of healing and unity while calling half the country “chumps” and other nasty words. Joe speaks of healing and unity while lying through his teeth to the voters. Joe speaks of unity and healing while telling black voters that if they don’t vote for him, they are not black. Joe speaks of healing and unity while DIVIDING the country with his lies and angry hate-filled campaign speeches.
But hey, Joe rides a bike. Wow. Problem is that most voters believe that Joe doesn’t know where he is riding his bike or how to get home if he didn’t have an entourage with him at all times.
U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan orders USPS to sweep facilities for remaining mail ballots and immediately send them for delivery –
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17520670/vote-forward-v-dejoy/
It is hereby ORDERED that, beginning no later than 12:30 PM EST today, Defendants shall send Postal Service inspectors or their designees, to processing facilities in the following Districts and direct them to sweep the facilities between 12:30 PM EST and 3:00 PM EST to ensure that no ballots have been held up and that any identified ballots are immediately sent out for delivery: Central Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, Detroit, Colorado/Wyoming, Atlanta, Houston, Alabama, Northern New England, Greater South Carolina, South Florida, Lakeland, and Arizona. Alternatively, Defendants may satisfy this paragraph if inspectors from the USPS Office of Inspector General (OIG) are available to oversee the sweep of processing facilities described in the previous sentence. No later than 4:30 PM EST today, Defendants shall file a status update certifying compliance with this paragraph upon confirming, in the most efficient manner available, that sweeps were conducted and that no ballots were left behind. To be clear, the inspectors themselves need not provide any certifications to the Court. It is FURTHER ORDERED that by no later than 4:30 PM EST today, Defendants shall identify the 27 processing centers at which the OIG was onsite and the list of facilities that the Postal Inspectors have observed since October 19, 2020, unless OIG raises an objection to the identification of these sites.
And so the search for an adult in the Democrat Party continues………
Scarblow is a nutjob and prides himself on edging as far up to illegal speech as he can openly calling for Trump to be executed. He is a scoundrel and the whole network sucks badly
Joe Biden believed Blacks to be Predators. SMH
Joe Biden is a disgrace. This ad is a flatout LIE. And he knows it.
Donald Trump and his enablers and stans are the disgrace.
The parrot repeats what another says only changing the subject. That is what parrots do.
LMAO that Allan thinks parrots change the subject.
Anonymous, you are a parrot with a very small vocabulary.
Joe Biden is going to give them REPARATIONS
open your wallet Whitey!
If you don’t want to pay descendants of slaves freed 160 years ago just for being black, GET OUT AND VOTE
BIDEN IS FOR REPARATIONS TO BLACKS– FOR SLAVERY THAT ENDED 160 YEARS AGO!
VOTING FOR BIDEN IS LIKE PROMISING TO OPEN YOUR WALLET AND PAY MONEY JUST FOR THEM!
oh and also these Dems plan to bail out the failing Chicago school pension system– those retired principals making $3000,000 a year want their money! they mishandled the pension so now they want the voters to bail them out~
and some other failed blue states and state pensions, too
IF TRUMP LOSES– GET READY TO OPEN YOUR WALLET FOLKS!
MSNBC is just accelerating their drift into irrelevance. They may as well buy themselves some reruns of “Lucy” to play because as a new channel they are kaput.
What do you expect from the Communist Party. Not like they are Citizens.
This type of attitude is like my grandson who just looks away if he doesn’t like the lesson I might be trying to teach. Oh how the once mighty have fallen!
Luke, you used this comment last week.
I wonder if the shoe is on the other foot, will MSNBC not telecast an early Biden declaration. I would feel much comfortable if they had made the statement to that effect for both candidates. Whether there is bias or not, the apparent bias is every bit as damaging to the credulance of the news.
vote and DO NOT LEAVE THE LINE UNTIL YOU DO!
got to the bathroom before you get in line, in flyover the lines are all 2 plus hours long!
Democrat sneaks are already trying to suppress the election day vote, banking on their mailed in ballots, by late opening and broken machines!
GO AND VOTE AND DONT LEAVE UNTIL YOU DO
I live in a flyover (maybe the same one as you do), and I voted today–car to car time today: 12 minutes.
You must be in a Dem heavy precinct that did early voting by mail. Low Energy Jeb level participation on Election Day. hehe
The dems are going to attempt to creat chaos straight through January. Our country may be toast today, and the DNC are more vile and despicable than could possibly be imagined. Unbelievable, truly.
Trump is going to attempt to creat chaos straight through January. Trump and the GOP are more vile and despicable than could possibly be imagined. Unbelievable, truly.
Trump is going to attempt to creat chaos straight through January.
Speaking of vile and despicable, it hasn’t been Trump supporters rampaging throughout the U.S., burning and looting for conservative causes. Chaos is exactly what Democrats have wanted the nation to fear and it’s working only in Democrat-run cities. Whatever chaos this election brings will be initiated by the Left and if necessary, responded to appropriately by the Right.
Sure, pal, that’s why so many right-wing Boogaloo Boys have been arrested.
yeah like five or six booger bois who are just another sort of anarchist
MEANWHILE DON’T FORGET THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF BLM AND ANTIFA RIOTING, ARSON, LOOTING, ATTACKING POLICE, AND PUBLIC BUILDINGS FOR 4 MONTHS NONSTOP!
vote TRUMP for a return to law and order!
Trump himself is a criminal. He has no interest in law and order.
The people engaged in rioting, etc., were a mix of those on the right and on the left.
You can’t deal honestly with that range because you’re too full of hate.
you’re a liar. They were BLM and ANTIFA and the mix if any was about 99.99 % LEFT
totally obvious from a thousand different on the scene videos
VOTE TRUMP TO RESTORE LAW AND ORDER
LOL! That does not make my comment any less true.
Trump isn’t a conservative–he’s an out of control narcissist. According to Bill Krystol, who IS a conservative, conservatives believe in personal integrity and character, honesty, taking personal responsibility and in prudent fiscal management. None of these apply to Trump.
Bill Kristol is an old fool. And a war pig
And you are no conservative so don’t pretend you can say the first world about it
I don’t claim to be a conservative, but i do understand and appreciate the things listed above, especially character, honesty, personal responsibility and prudent fiscal management. Trump is clueless as to any or all of these.
Hey Natch, you witch-sisters are hexing Trump. This should give you something to do today!
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/thousands-witches-are-casting-binding-spells-donald-trump-lose-election
Witches for Biden!
Don’t like witchcraft, necromancy, and other black-hearted practices? VOTE TRUMP
You are bloviating again about things you know nothing about. I do know some who are wiccans, and they are very decent people, business owners, they appreciate nature and natural healing via herbs. I try to be broadminded and non-judgmental. There is nothing black-hearted about the wiccans I am acquainted with.
I know a couple too and they are just goofy ladies.
Mostly it’s just costume play for adults. The pagan cults were all terminated long ago. Some guy in the 19th century Englishman cooked up most of what is called “Wicca” out of his own imagination.
Most people who “practice” such things as that no more believe in it than your local scientist does. They think they are “focusing energies’ or some such new age babble as that
And there they are seeking attention from reporters, and getting it, like a bunch of clowns
But don’t make the mistake of thinking that every self proclaimed witch is as goofy and harmless as the ones you or I may know.
There certainly are blackhearted people hiding in nearly every religious cult and group, as we have painfully seen. Is that them? I don’t know. Maybe!
PS a “binding spell” is a bogus name for what used to be called a CURSE. They are haters CURSING Trump. They are too fake to just come out with the proper word for it– which means they are weak. These “Witches” are too weak to be blackhearted is my suspicion– rather their hearts are just a dirty grey. To be truly black-hearted they would have to be strong and unafraid to use the word “curse”
The ones I know are fine, decent and kind. The Wicca religion is not one thing–it is many things, with several varieties of belief and non-belief, practices and non-practices, but I haven’t seen any evil. They definitely aren’t ugly old women with moles on their faces and dowager humps stirring cauldrons. One I know who runs a gift shop, has little signs up saying: “if you were thinking about shoplifting here, just remember that this store is owned and operated by witches.” They do tarot card readings and sell things like candles, incense, books, figurines and other doo dads, and they have cats all over the place, too.
You’ve been wrong for 4 years, so at least you’re consistent. Compared with you and your progtrash cohorts, Trump is absolutely conservative. And there is certainly nothing out-of-control about his personality. Regardless of whatever label you care to apply to him, he’s the American people’s President and unlike your dementia-addled candidate, he’s worked tirelessly to advance American interests and not his own.
If Democrat riot and revolution talkers want to kick it off, go ahead. give it a test!~
You gon find out about the vote too. watch as it grows. you know who’s voting today right?
You are correct. Last night, he said he was going to fire Dr. Fauci right after the election. Assuming the predictions are correct, Trump will lose, and that will enrage him, and he will bluster, complain, file lawsuits, falsely accuse everyone on earth of cheating him out of his presidency, and when that doesn’t work, abuse the power he cheated to get for revenge. He is no patriot, and is motivated by nothing altruistic.
But they aren’t correct and get ready to find out. All the lawfare the Dem money men can buy won’t stop this result
Kurtz, can we count on you to come back tomorrow and eat those words if you wished wrong? That doesn’t even rate as a guess, which implies convincing evidence.
“are more vile and despicable than could possibly be imagined.”
Look in a mirror.