The No-Show Option: Trump Could Sit Out The Senate Trial And Still Prevail

Below is my column in the Hill on why President Donald Trump might want to consider skipping the upcoming Senate trial. This is an expanded version of that column. Rumors continue to suggest that Trump is considering Rudy Giuliani as counsel — a role that would be viewed as open contempt to the Senate and, as Karl Rove noted, would increase the chances of a conviction.  There is a better defense: no defense.

Here is the column:

In a matter of days, this country will face an unprecedented Senate trial. The Senate not only will try a president for a second time but will do so after he has left office.

Vice President-elect Kamala Harris assures us the Senate can politically “multitask” to deal with an impeachment, an incoming Biden administration and a pandemic. However, the threshold question is whether this is constitutionally one of those tasks — and for soon-to-be citizen Donald Trump, the best defense may be no defense at all.

In fairness, people on both sides are struggling to deal with this novel impeachment. While I have stated that I do not wish to serve as the president’s counsel, I have spoken to members of Congress and the White House on the historical and constitutional backgrounds for a trial.  In my 1999, Duke Law Journal article on impeachment, I wrote that “[t]he Senate majority, however, was correct in its view that impeachments historically extended to former officials, such as Warren Hastings.” See Jonathan Turley, Senate Trials and Factional Disputes: Impeachment as a Madisonian Device, 49 Duke Law Journal 1-146 (1999). It indeed was used retroactively in Great Britain. Yet, there are significant differences in the use of impeachment in both countries. Indeed, the colonial impeachments were strikingly different in many respects. As I noted in the Duke article, “Even if the only penalty is disqualification from future office, the open presentation of the evidence and witnesses represents the very element that was missing in colonial impeachments.” This has remained an open question and much contested in the United States as I noted in my later North Carolina article.  Jonathan Turley, The    “Executive    Function”    Theory,    the    Hamilton    Affair    and    Other    Constitutional Mythologies, 77 North Carolina Law Review 1791-1866 (1999).  The point of that piece is that impeachment is not limited to violations of an executive function but can involve other violations like perjury.  We are left with the value of a trial for a public judgment on past conduct and the costs of a retroactive trial on the constitutional system. That has remained unresolved though my views have evolved over the last 30 years on aspects of this question. The prior discussion addressed how impeachment serves a type of dialogic role in our society. Such trials can have value as with Trump. However, there are also serious countervailing costs that are equally evident in the case of Trump.

From a purely strategic perspective, I believe Trump may be wise to skip any trial.

For a notorious counterpuncher, avoiding a fight might be the most difficult decision of all, particularly because he has obvious defenses. First, he was denied due process when the House held an unprecedented “snap impeachment” without a hearing or inquiry even though a trial likely would not occur immediately. Even a one-day hearing would have allowed evidence to be discussed as well as a formal request for a response.

Second, the impeachment article is poorly crafted and poorly conceived, built around assertions that Trump’s Jan. 6 speech to supporters was an “incitement to insurrection.” His speech raised potentially impeachable grounds; I condemned it as he gave it and opposed his challenge of electoral votes from the outset. But as I wrote previously, it would have been far better to censure him for it in a bipartisan, bicameral resolution.

While impeachment can be based on noncriminal grounds, Trump’s speech alone did not amount to criminal incitement. Absent direct evidence of intent, a criminal charge would likely collapse in an actual trial or on appeal on First Amendment grounds. Trump expressly called for his supporters “to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.” He told them to go to the Capitol “to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women,” to “fight like hell” to challenge the election, and to remind unsupportive Republicans that their actions would not be forgotten. It was a reckless speech — but, in a court of law, it would constitute protected speech.

Despite the strength of such defenses, the president must first decide whether he wants to sit for trial at all. He can legitimately argue that a private citizen cannot be impeached and that the Senate cannot remove a person from office who has already left.

Article I, Section 4, of the Constitution states that the sole purpose of an impeachment trial is whether “the president, vice president and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office.” While the Senate can later add a disqualification from holding federal office again, that is only after removal is decided — because it is a question of the penalty, not the purpose of the proceeding.

The Constitution refers to a present-tense status of “the president.” That status is key to other provisions bestowing official powers and privileges, which do not linger after leaving office. No one would argue that Trump could continue to exercise those powers once President-elect Biden is sworn in. Yet a Senate trial would insist that, while Trump has no continuing powers, he remains subject to continued penalties tied to the office. Moreover, the stated purpose of the impeachment trial is whether a president “shall be removed.” Thus, the only person constitutionally subject to an impeachment trial would be the sitting president, Joe Biden.

This issue has been debated since the first impeachment in 1797, when Sen. William Blount of Tennessee faced allegations of conspiring to help Great Britain seize what is now Louisiana. Blount was expelled from the Senate before being impeached, so he insisted he was not subject to trial and refused to appear. The Senate apparently agreed and dismissed the case — just 10 years after the Constitution’s ratification, with most of the Framers still alive and some serving in Congress. (Indeed, Blount was one of its signers.)

The second case fared little better. In 1876, former Secretary of War William Belknap was tried even though he resigned before being impeached. Almost half of the senators voted that they did not have jurisdiction, and Belknap was later acquitted, in part due to doubts over the trial’s legitimacy.

The absence of a defendant or defense counsel might not be the only curious element in this trial. It is unclear, for example, if Chief Justice John Roberts would be called upon to preside. After all, the Constitution stipulates that when “the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside” — but the president will be Biden, not Trump.

The failure to put on a defense is not an admission of guilt. The Senate has a duty to resolve whether there is a valid impeachment trial to be held and then whether the constitutional standard has been satisfied. If the Senate does not dismiss the case in a threshold vote, Trump can treat the proceeding as an extraconstitutional act because he is no longer subject to removal. If the Senate were to convict, he would have standing to challenge any disqualification from future federal offices. He could well prevail, and the Senate would have created a precedent against itself: history’s first judicial reversal of an impeachment verdict.

Courts have long maintained that impeachments are left to Congress. Yet this is different. This is a question of whether a private citizen can be subjected to a proceeding that is expressly committed to the removal of officeholders. Impeachments go to the status of an officeholder, while indictments go to the status of an individual. If prosecutors believe Trump incited insurrection, they should charge him. However, the Senate must decide if it wants to hold a trial based on a legal fiction: a vote to remove someone who is no longer in office.

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law with George Washington University and served as the last lead counsel during a Senate impeachment trial. He testified as an expert for the impeachment hearings of Bill Clinton and Donald Trump. Follow him with Twitter @JonathanTurley.

 

This column was updated.

258 thoughts on “The No-Show Option: Trump Could Sit Out The Senate Trial And Still Prevail”

    1. After 50 postings like this, people stop wondering about the riots, and they start wondering about you.

      1. for all of 2020 riots burned through America. No one will forget them particularly the calling by Democrats to defund the police.

  1. So, Turley’s legal advice is to have the Trump term of crack lawyers and Trump sit and hold their breath and kick their feet hoping the whole thing goes away.

    1. Does Trump’s legal team consist of Crazy Rudy and QAnon crackpot Sidney Powell?
      If so we’re in for a lot of laughs.

  2. Can’t tell you how depressing it is today to get an earful of Turley’s divide and conquer nonsense that contradicts his past positions on impeachment.

    Elvis Bug

  3. The Ties That Bind

    Dominion Voting Systems (DVS) claims that it *is* not connected to Smartmatic (an elections company), or to Venezuela (and its corrupt elections). Now we discover that Dominion is pulling a Clinton: “It depends on what the meaning of ‘is’ is.”

    Smartmatic grew up in Venezuela, with the help of a $120-million contract from the Venezuelan government (which also owned about 28% of the company). With that windfall, in 2005, it purchased Sequoia Voting Systems (SVS). In 2010, Smartmatic sold Sequoia to — wait for it: Dominion Voting Systems. (*) Dominion took control of the physical assets, IP, and key personnel of the very company (Smartmatic) that grew up in Venezuela.

    Those are the ties that bind Dominion to Smartmatic and to Venezuela.

    Those who deceive like to play games with verb tense.

    And they like to re-write their history. As a sure sign that Smartmatic is hiding something, they have erased documents from their website about the Sequoia transactions.

    (*) Don’t be fooled by the following diversion: The claim that Smartmatic sold Sequoia in 2007. On the surface, that is true. But if you did deeper, you discover this: It sold Sequoia to members of *its own management team.”

    “U.S. Investigates Voting Machines’ Venezuela Ties”: The article is about Smartmatic — published in, of all places, “The New York Times.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/29/washington/29ballot.html

    1. https://thepostmillennial.com/the-new-yorker-runs-antifa-propaganda-days-before-election

      The New Yorker runs Antifa propaganda days before election

      Their defense of Antifa ignores the evidence that shows this loosely affiliated group to be violent and intent on the destruction of American democracy.

      The New Yorker published an expose defending Antifa militants who are simply “protecting their communities,” affirming that “confronting fascists with violence can be justified.” Their defense of Antifa ignores the evidence that shows this loosely affiliated group to be violent and intent on the destruction of American democracy.

      .@lukemogelson interviews members of Rose City Antifa, a Portland group that has been confronting Proud Boys and other right-wing groups that hold rallies in their city.
      — The New Yorker (@NewYorker) October 26, 2020

      The defensive piece, entitled “In the Streets with Antifa,” is prefaced: “Trump is vowing to designate the movement as a terrorist organization. But its supporters believe that they are protecting their communities—and that confronting fascists with violence can be justified.”

      In the promotional tweet, The New Yorker tagged the contributing writer, Luke Mogelson. According to the Twitter handle mentioned, the account had only seven followers at the time of publication and a bio that read: “Their Voices Will Become The Voices Of Creeps Their Joy Will Become Their Sudden Death.”

      Mogelson first described an afternoon gathering co-sponsored by the Democratic Socialists of America’s Portland arm on Sept. 26, in which approximately 1,500 Antifa activists congregated on the lawn of Peninsula Park in black bloc attire—the monochromatic clothing that anonymizes suspects to law enforcement.

      “[B]ut the event was family-friendly…” Mogelson reported, detailing the hippie aesthetic of Woodstock with booths set up in a leafy grove that offered free barbecue, herbal teas and tinctures, arts and crafts, condoms and morning-after pills, radical zines, and organic vegetables.

      Later that night, projectiles were launched at Portland Police Bureau officers including full beverages cans, firecrackers, and ball bearings fired from sling shots. Earlier in the day, one large banner hung on the pavilion above the stage read: “Everyday Antifascist / Come for the anarchy / Stay for the soup.”

      Before the rain began (it is currently drizzling) chanting could be heard nearly a block away from those gathered at Peninsula Park.
      — Lesley McL (@Human42LM) September 26, 2020

      Mogelson attacked President Donald Trump for alleging “without evidence” that anarchists had weaponized cans and bags of soup to hurl at law enforcement. The president also cited bricks, rocks, bats, Molotov cocktails, and frozen bottles of water used to assault police officers.

      “Somebody said last night, one of the protesters—I saw it—he said, ‘It’s only water. How can water hurt you?’ Yeah, they don’t say it’s frozen, in a bottle the size of a football. And they throw it at the police. It’s unbelievable,” Trump mimicked.

      “And then they have cans of soup. And they throw the cans of soup. That’s better than a brick because you can’t throw a brick. It’s too heavy,” Trump said at the July meeting with National Association of Police Organizations leadership. “But a can of soup, you can really put some power into that, right? And then when they get caught, they say, ‘No, this is soup for my family.’ They’re so innocent. This is soup for my family.” Eventually, “soup for my family” turned into a tongue-in-cheek slogan at Portland riots.

      ‘Some things just don’t get any crazier’

      I give you Donald Trump on…………..soup#soupgate #campbellconspiracy
      — Jelle Simons (@jelle_simons) September 2, 2020

      “Other Presidential statements have been harder to make light of,” Mogelson continued, claiming that Trump has “vilified demonstrators as nefarious insurrectionists” throughout the nationwide upheaval set in motion by George Floyd’s death on May 25.

      “Much as adversaries of the civil-rights movement once contended that it had been infiltrated by Communists,” the president “invokes antifascists” to “delegitimatize” the Black Lives Matter movement, he wrote.

      As civil unrest spread from the Minneapolis uprising to other Democratic-led cities, Trump factually declared as a “president of law and order and an ally of all peaceful protesters” at a Rose Garden press conference just as rioters clashed on the opposite side of Pennsylvania Avenue: “Our nation has been gripped by professional anarchists, violent mobs, arsonists, looters, criminals, rioters, Antifa, and others.”

      President Trump speaks in the Rose Garden:

      “We cannot allow the righteous cries of peaceful to be drowned out by an angry mob. The biggest victims of the rioting are peace-loving citizens in our poorest communities and as their president, I will fight to keep them safe.”

      1. Antifa stinks. Also, the right wing extremists who follow Trump stink. And Trump himself? He’s a lying, depraved, unAmerican sack of shit.

        And he also stinks.

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