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Strzok in Denial: Fired FBI Agent Denounces Durham Indictments For “Dog Whistles”

The indictments of John Durham has shaken up Washington recently as he laid out the critical role played by Clinton campaign associates in the creation of the Russian collusion scandal, including the inclusion of debunked but widely reported allegations. It is clear from the latest indictment why leading Democrats like Majority Leader Chuck Schumer tried to kill the Durham investigation. None of that however prepared some of us for the response of MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow, who called upon fired FBI counterintelligence agent Peter Strzok to question the indictments. Strzok was fired at the recommendation of career investigators and has been cited as an example of the raw bias of key players in the Russian investigation. Yet, he was the choice of MSNBC to review the recent indictments and he did not disappoint in belittling the crimes alleged by the Special Counsel.

Maddow was one of the leading voices pushing the Russian collusion claims. She has not corrected her past statements or apologized for pushing the discredited claims. She was particularly assertive in touting the debunked Steele dossier.

On her Jan. 13, 2017, program, she stated:

“I mean, had the FBI looked into what was in that dossier and found that it was all patently false, they could tell us that now, right? I mean, the dossier has now been publicly released. If the FBI looked into it and they found it was all trash, there’s no reason they can’t tell us that now. They’re not telling us that now. They’re not saying that. They’re not saying anything.”

In March 2017, Maddow seemed eager to get people to just call the allegations facts. She invited Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.) onto her show to highlight the 35-page dossier. She asked Schiff: “When you cited … that dossier, should we stop describing that as an uncorroborated dossier? Has some of the information of that been corroborated?”

Now Durham has detailed how the dossier was the product of the Clinton campaign, which long denied that it funded the dossier and only admitted the truth long after the election.

The response of Maddow was to invite one of the most biased and discredited figures in the scandal to cover the indictment.

Strzok’s bias and violation of FBI rules led to career Justice Department investigators referring his case to prosecutors and led to his firing from the FBI. His emails showed intense bias against Donald Trump and highly concerning statements about having an “insurance policy” in place if Trump were to win the election.

On January 4, 2017, the FBI’s Washington Field Office issued a “Closing Communication” indicating that the bureau was terminating “CROSSFIRE RAZOR” — the newly disclosed codename for the investigation of Michael Flynn.  Strzok intervened.

Keep in mind CROSSFIRE RAZOR was formed to determine whether Michael Flynn “was directed and controlled by” or “coordinated activities with the Russian Federation in a manner which is a threat to the national security” of the United States or a violation of federal foreign agent laws.  The FBI investigated Flynn and various databases and determined that “no derogatory information was identified in FBI holdings.” Due to this conclusion, the Washington Field Office concluded that Flynn “was no longer a viable candidate as part of the larger CROSSFIRE HURRICANE umbrella case.”

On that same day, however, Strzok instructed the FBI case manager handling CROSSFIRE RAZOR to keep the investigation open, telling him “Hey don’t close RAZOR.”  The FBI official replied, “Okay.” Strzok then confirmed again, “Still open right? And you’re the case agent? Going to send you [REDACTED] for the file.” The FBI official confirmed: “I have not closed it … Still open.” Strzok responded “Rgr. I couldn’t raise [REDACTED] earlier. Pls keep it open for now.”

Strzok also wrote FBI lawyer Lisa Page, the same person Strzok had referenced his “insurance policy” to in emails. Strzok texted Page: “Razor still open. :@ but serendipitously good, I guess. You want those chips and Oreos?” Page replied “Phew. But yeah that’s amazing that he is still open. Good, I guess.” Strzok replied “Yeah, our utter incompetence actually helps us. 20% of the time, I’m guessing :)”

That exchange is not as disconcerting as Strzok’s actions.  After a finding of “no derogatory information,” Strzok reached for the Logan Act and sent a research paper on the notoriously unconstitutional law.

Now that same fired official is holding forth on Durham, a prosecutor who has been widely praised as an apolitical and unbiased investigator. Strzok declared “I’m certainly concerned when I read these indictments, both Mr. Sussmann’s and Mr. Danchenko’s… They have subtle dog-whistles to these kinds of pro-Trump conspiracy theories.”

Here is my favorite line: “The indictment makes a point to note that the FBI was unable to corroborate Steele’s reporting, but at the same time, it neglects to mention that we weren’t able to disprove it either.”

No line better sums up Strzok’s approach to his work.

First, Durham details how, in 2017, the FBI was informed that the main source for the dossier (and the Page secret warrant) told them that they were “unsubstantiated” and misrepresented. The FBI was also informed that American intelligence believed that Steele relied on a known Russian agent and that the dossier may have been the vehicle for Russian disinformation. The FBI also knew that then-President Obama was briefed by his CIA director, John Brennan on an intelligence report that Clinton planned to tie then-candidate Trump to Russia as “a means of distracting the public from her use of a private email server.” That was on July 28, 2016 — three days before the Russia investigation was initiated.

Second, it is bizarre to note that allegations have yet to be clearly disproven. The allegations have been debunked to the extent that the key source has called them unreliable and little more than bar gossip. More importantly, the issue is whether there was sufficient evidence to launch (and continue) the investigation.

Strzok also notes that Mueller was able to nail the national security advisor. However, Mueller prosecuted Flynn for false statements much like the Durham indictments. Mueller found no evidence to support charging of any Russian collusion crimes. Strzok seems stuck in denial and suggesting that somehow targets should effectively have to “prove the negative” — prove they are not secret agents of Russia.

I supported the appointment of the Special Counsel on the Russian collusion allegations after Trump fired James Comey. While I stated that the Russian collusion allegations were unlikely to be proven as crimes, I felt the public needed the assurance of an independent investigation. That is also why I supported the Durham investigation. Now that Durham is confirming that the Russian collusion allegations were engineered by Clinton campaign associates, there is a full court press in the media to downplay or ignore the underlying evidence.

The problem is that Durham does not appear to be done.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-2AcwgRzIY

126 thoughts on “Strzok in Denial: Fired FBI Agent Denounces Durham Indictments For “Dog Whistles””

    1. Give it 2 more years, and the emerging data will show that all of the panic porn re: COVID, will have been just like the Hillary Clinton dossier: bought, paid for and propagated for political power.

      https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2785832

      Association of Self-reported COVID-19 Infection and SARS-CoV-2 Serology Test Results With Persistent Physical Symptoms Among French Adults During the COVID-19 Pandemic

      Findings
      In this cross-sectional analysis of 26 823 adults from the population-based French CONSTANCES cohort during the COVID-19 pandemic, self-reported COVID-19 infection was associated with most persistent physical symptoms, whereas laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 infection was associated only with anosmia. Those associations were independent from self-rated health or depressive symptoms.

      Meaning
      Findings suggest that persistent physical symptoms after COVID-19 infection should not be automatically ascribed to SARS-CoV-2; a complete medical evaluation may be needed to prevent erroneously attributing symptoms to the virus.

      CONCLUSIONS AND RELEVANCE
      The findings of this cross-sectional analysis of a large, population-based French cohort suggest that persistent physical symptoms after COVID-19 infection may be associated more with the belief in having been infected with SARS-CoV-2 than with having laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 infection. Further research in this area should consider underlying mechanisms that may not be specific to the SARS-CoV-2 virus. A medical evaluation of these patients may be needed to prevent symptoms due to another disease being erroneously attributed to “long COVID.”

      1. Estovir,

        I know a bit of you, I believe you are a serious person & in certain areas you are sharper then I.

        That said, “anosmia”, yes & more, aside from the millions injured there are these people who have morphed into TransHumanism & Warp Sped Away & they’re on their way to another dimension, above or below us.

        I am not anti Vax As I know they can work, I am Pro very Safe Vaxxes & very Anti- Bio-Weapons like , Sars-Cov-2 Wuhan H1 Illegally cooked up & Released from a Lab & the Patented mRNA Death/Clot Shots based off their Bio-Weapons.

        What I’ve come to believe is that those cursing others & I for demanding Safety First in regards to these so called Vaxxes are dropping like Flies.

        People that believe as I do think the truth will revel itself next May & June 2022 by those that survived the Death/Clot Shots.

        This gentleman, along with millions of others, is out forever out of the debate, h/they lost. They Choose Poorly with their One Life. ( Pro-Tip: Choose Wisely)

        https://vaccineimpact.com/2021/41-year-old-florida-man-who-cursed-anti-vaxxers-found-dead-in-his-home-by-neighbors-after-second-covid-19-pfizer-shot/

        And then this: Oops not up yet.

        Try this one, at least as good:

        Dr. Peter McCullough Issues Emergency Warning: Vaccine Created Spike Protein is Deadly in the Human Body

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        Dr. Peter McCullough joins The Alex Jones Show to issue a warning to the public and expose corruption behind the growing medical tyranny state.

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        1. If you look at the historical CDC Influenza reports, they lag 3 years behind. I have been in medicine for decades, and there has always been the element of “wait and see”, a judicious, sober, patient approach until all data are collected, verified and reported. Death certificates for influenza deaths vary from state to state, some completed based on clinical judgment, others on verified lab diagnostic PCR tests, others based on antibodies, and others are guesstimates. Some completed by physicians, others by nurse practitioners, others by individuals who never saw the patient. These also vary county to county in the same state. None of these can be measured against each other. Additionally, every diagnosis is based on evidence interpreted as an art. That said, the rapidity with which COVID data, dx and deaths have been reported for our nation, as if speaking in one voice, have been alarming. Now reports are being fleshed, like the one I posted above, that tell a more responsible account. There are no objective diagnostic tests for long term COVID. Its all subjective.

          The politicization of medicine has gotten depressingly bad. Reading most traditional medical journals has gotten so repugnant that I rarely read my issue of New England Journal of Medicine or JAMA, which I receive weekly. See below. Medicine as a patient is really sick. Americans dont know the half of it.

          Eat nutritious meals, exercise, lose weight, break addictions, focus on your loved ones and goals. Try to practice preventative medicine, avoid getting sick at all costs. Health is wealth

          See:

          https://www.nejm.org/toc/nejm/medical-journal?query=main_nav_lg

          Table of Contents most recent issue:

          Racial and Ethnic Diversity at Medical Schools — Why Aren’t We There Yet?

          Time to Eliminate Health Care Disparities in the Estimation of Kidney Function

          Race, Genetic Ancestry, and Estimating Kidney Function in CKD

          Applying a Subpopulation Lens to Population Health

          1. Despite all our technological advances we have been terrible at data collection and it is getting worse. If one knows how death certificates are filled out one recognizes that our data collection system is flawed.

            Covid added a dose of politics never before seen. There is so much corruption of the data that I think we have to rely on other countries when using data to make decisions.

          2. Inadvertently at a young age I was forced to become very aware medically of the seriousness of respiratory issues long before this latest Bio-Weapon Sars-Covid2 Wuhan H1.

            For me, lungs,, my wife, surviving stage 4 cancer & others we can’ afford to take Any, Any Chances now at seeking help in “Any US Hospital:, including the 4 majors here in Tulsa. Their Protocol will kill us!!! “When Death is Near”, just look at Fauic drug of choice, Pat. Rendisavir (Sic). 6-10 days & your kidneys will drown your lungs, as I recall from the studies I’ve seen. ( Dr Adais, sic)

            And as you say we believe in Very, Very Early Treatment, armed with vitamin/mineral supplements & the help of what I believe are Expert Docs in this field & the pharma drugs they reco.

            I’ve posted link after link of different Docs for all to check into & to consider.

            And forgetting all the medical stuff, I can not & will never willingly take their Mark Of the Beast so called Vaxxes with ties of Aborted Fetal Tissue in/about it.

            Whatever people wish to call it, God, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit, Angles, with all I know everything is screaming to me Hell Phk’in No to these type mRNA jabs.

            https://www.aestheticsadvisor.com/2021/05/dr-peter-mccullough-hydroxychloroquine.html

            I miss some of this below today as my internet connection kept cutting out:

            POWERFUL INTERVIEW! COVID Jabs are Premeditated First Degree Murder, says Dr. Zelenko

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  2. Someone forgot to tell these registered voters that administration policy doesn’t matter.

    USA Today asked 1,000 registered voters what they most wanted Joe Biden to do and the top answer, which drew the highest percentage, is awesome:

    What do Americans want President Joe Biden to do now?

    We asked them.

    In the new USA TODAY/Suffolk Poll, we asked 1,000 registered voters to name the single thing that was most important for Biden to do in the next year.

    There was only one answer that unified people the most in the selections, and that was for Joe Biden to get the heck out of office.

    Here’s the list from top to bottom:

    1.Resign/retire/quit – 20%
    2.Economy/jobs – 11%
    3.Unite/help the country – 8%
    4.Immigration/border control – 8%
    5.COVID/mandates – 6%
    6.Infrastructure bills – 5%
    7.Inflation – 4%
    8.Health care – 3%
    9.Climate change/environment – 3%
    10.Bipartisanship – 3%

    I love it and I totally would have picked that one too. The top four, which account for nearly 50% of the voters, says alot about the angst people feel toward Biden and why they want him to resign.

    With the same registered voters, both Biden and Kamala’s approval ratings are at rock bottom:

    And even worse, a huge percentage of these registered voters do not want Biden to run again in 2024:

    58.4% don’t want Trump to run either, which is less than Biden, and that tells you a lot about these registered voters.

    Point is that Biden hasn’t even been president for a year yet and the country is already so fed up with him that they are giving him approval ratings around Trump’s lowest. Trump had a media that scandalized him every day of his presidency, which is why his approval numbers were so bad at times. What is Biden’s excuse? He’s just a horrible president.
    https://therightscoop.com/usa-today-asks-1000-registered-voters-what-they-want-joe-biden-to-do-and-the-top-answer-is-awesome/

  3. We must always remember that “intelligence” is largely inaccurate and assumptions, it’s a possible scenario, nothing more. American Article III courts are the most accurate truth-gathering mechanism with the least amount of leaks, primarily because suspects are confronted and testimony carries a legal risk.

    In intelligence you can have a 40 year case built on a false foundation and nobody ever corrects the foundation – intelligence is valuable but heavily flawed and inaccurate. Excessive secrecy compounds the problem. Intelligence should rarely be viewed as fact, since by it’s very nature nobody can actually confront those involved. Mistakes and incompetency are hidden by secrecy.

    It’s high time that federal judges provide judicial review over this intelligence process when it harms innocent Americans. The courts are co-equal to the intel and security agencies, not subordinate.

  4. Swamp ‘Noun”: watery waste land having certain types of growth, not fit for cultivation.

    The Washington DC swamp is littered with dazed denizen’s thinking their lies could be cultivated and grow into the removal an elected President. Nastrovje tawarish!

    I quote from ‘Shooting an Elephant’ by George Orwell “In our time, political speech and writing are largely the defense of the indefensible.”

    Leaving aside the famous quote from Joseph Goebbels about repeating a lie, or Arnold Bennett’s writing that journalists knowingly LIE in hopes their cock-and-bull story becomes true, I’ll define the denizens through Mr. Bennett’s thoughts from ‘The Title’ Act 1 “Examine the Honours List and you instantly tell how the Government feels in its inside. When the Honours List is full of rascals, millionaires, and-or-chumps, you may be quite sure that the Government is dangerously ill.”

  6. “We will stop him.”

    – Peter Strzok to FBI paramour Lisa Page
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    “[Obama] wants to know everything we’re doing.”

    – Lisa Page to FBI paramour Peter Strzok
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    “I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office — that there’s no way he gets elected — but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before 40.”

    – Peter Strzok to FBI parmour Lisa Page
    ________________________________

    “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.”

    – Barack Obama
    _____________

    The Obama Coup D’etat in America is the most egregious abuse of power and the most prodigious crime in American political history.

    The co-conspirators are:

    Kevin Clinesmith, Bill Taylor, Eric Ciaramella, Rosenstein, Mueller/Team, Andrew Weissmann,

    James Comey, Christopher Wray, McCabe, Strozk, Page, Laycock, Kadzic,Sally Yates,

    James Baker, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, Priestap, Kortan, Campbell, Sir Richard Dearlove,

    Christopher Steele, Simpson, Joseph Mifsud, Alexander Downer, Stefan “The Walrus” Halper,

    Azra Turk, Kerry, Hillary, Huma, Mills, Brennan, Gina Haspel, Clapper, Lerner, Farkas, Power,

    Lynch, Rice, Jarrett, Holder, Brazile, Sessions (patsy), Nadler, Schiff, Pelosi, Obama,

    Joe Biden, James E. Boasberg, Emmet Sullivan, Gen. Milley, George Soros, John McCain,

    Marc Elias, Igor, Danchenko, Fiona Hill, Charles H. Dolan et al.

  7. Hey Anonymous, Schiff said he had HARD EVIDENCE of collusion…what is that evidence? You think you are on the winning side and yet you are aligned with Schiff and Swalwell and we shall see how that plays out. Once the Republicans take back the House the game will be over for you and your lying side.

  8. Russia Russia Russia the Really Big Lie but who will face the consequences? For years it was perpetrated against a legally elected President, the nation and it’s citizens by those in and outside the government. Will there be justice, real justice the kind you and I would face or just a show?

  11. If Strozk had any sense he’d keep his mouth shut. He could still be indicted by Durham for his role and any statements he’s making to the media used against him. Apparently his ego is bigger than his brain, lol.

  12. JT:

    “Here is my favorite line: “The indictment makes a point to note that the FBI was unable to corroborate Steele’s reporting, but at the same time, it neglects to mention that we weren’t able to disprove it either.”

    No line better sums up Strzok’s approach to his work.”

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    Actually, my favorite line is yours! Very Russell’s teapot!

  14. Why is it, that only corrupt Progressives HEAR these Dog Whistles they keep claiming they hear?? Maybe THEY are the problem they are trying to pin on everyone else?? So funny to hear all the pundits use the same terminology day after day like they haven’t been handed the talking points …..

    1. WB:

      “Why is it, that only corrupt Progressives HEAR these Dog Whistles they keep claiming they hear?? ”
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      Seems obvious. They’re dogs. Scummy ones at that.

  15. “[W]e weren’t able to disprove it either.”

    *That* is frightening: Law enforcement pursuing an individual until they can disprove the allegations — which is a pretext for hounding individuals until they give up or are bankrupt.

  16. “Maddow was one of the leading voices pushing the Russian collusion claims…”

    So was Robert Mueller.

    “…She has not corrected her past statements or apologized for pushing the discredited claims. She was particularly assertive in touting the debunked Steele dossier.”

    She has no need to correct them because they’re true and haven’t been discredited..

    Be honest, Turley…, would you actually be surprised if Trump paid Russian hookers to piss in a bed he thought Obama had slept in? He’d dedicated several years to pushing false birther claims against Obama and Obama made him sizzle in embarrassment at a press dinner over it. The entire world knows trump is incapable of getting over something like that.

    Or just continue to embarrass yourself. Your choice, Turley.

    1. Not that the only claim in the dossier was trump’s piss the bed fantasy, several other claims have been upheld at every stage of review. Probably just best to let go the dossier in total as a way to make out of context points, Turley. It will always come back to bite you.

    2. “Maddow was one of the leading voices pushing the Russian collusion claims…”

      So was Robert Mueller.

      “…She has not corrected her past statements or apologized for pushing the discredited claims. She was particularly assertive in touting the debunked Steele dossier.

      She has no need to correct them because they’re true and haven’t been discredited..”
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      Well bong or bottle? You decide!

      2. The dossier is completely discredited at this point. It is intentional misinformation. Even the primary sub source (the guy just arrested) has said it can’t be relied upon. The gas-lighting is insane.

        1. Still contending with getting censored here, but a more accurate statement on your part would be that some aspects of the dossier have been discredited (temporarily) while others not. The Mueller report did a good job of digging in to the dossier because it was formed through Popadopolous’ statements to Austrian intelligence in a bar and not through the dossier.

    3. “She has no need to correct them because they’re true and haven’t been discredited.. ”

      Go ahead, ATS quote one of Maddow’s statements and then provide factual proof that what she said was true. That is something you seldom do despite all the rhetoric your posts contain.

      Listen to your comment. See if there is any factual material in it other than a deceitful way of making a statement already debunked. You wrote: “Be honest, Turley…, would you actually be surprised if Trump paid Russian hookers to piss in a bed he thought Obama had slept in?”

      Your entire object is to defame another person who you don’t like and to defame the owner of this blog who refuses to lend credence to a non-credible guy who lies and deceives. You have lost almost every debate on the hoaxes made by left-wingers and occurred during the Trump administration. Yet, you continue with the same factless garbage to impune the integrity of another.

      Your actions are despicable.

      1. Actually what’s clear is that you need to actually listen to the interview before popping off with your standard out of context lack of understanding. Maddow was conducting an interview and was framing her “statements” as questions. I agree with the reads she presented to Stroczyk, and in every single instance she then checked in with him for feedback…, in fact that’s her interviewing style writ large.

        Here, watch the interview so you can narrow your hostility down to a single point that can discussed on the other side…

        https://youtu.be/i-2AcwgRzIY

        1. What you are saying is that Maddow needs no proof and neither do you. That is hogwash.

          ATS, I don’t have to refer to Maddow. She is not on the blog. You are. It is up to you to prove the case you present. You are miserable at doing so.

          You wrote: “Be honest, Turley…, would you actually be surprised if Trump paid Russian hookers to piss in a bed he thought Obama had slept in?”

          Your entire object is to defame another person who you don’t like and to defame the owner of this blog who refuses to lend credence to a non-credible guy who lies and deceives. You have lost almost every debate on the hoaxes made by left-wingers and occurred during the Trump administration. Yet, you continue with the same factless garbage to impune the integrity of another.

        1. Your question to Turley was to defame a third party while embarrassing the second. You failed at both. When did you stop beating your wife.

  17. Then there is the comparison of Flynn’s and the Russian ambassador recorded conversation and the written indictment. Even the PHONY 302 twisted language does not support the charge in comparison with the transcript of the phone calls. Also judge Amy Jackson? Said Rachel Maddox wasn’t to be seriously, judge Emmett Sullivan apparently did. John Carlin boasted in the final minutes of house testimony that Carter Page risked his life to collect evidence to secure the conviction. So he forgot who Carter Page was in the 90_days from end of the trial and starting the FISA process.

  18. This is another example of Turley completely distorting the facts to push his own agenda. Recent coverage on the Rachel Maddow show pointed out how Durham misrepresented the connection between Russian “Alfa Bank” and a Trump Organization server. Durham in his indictment represented it as totally false yet the people he suggested misrepresented the Trump Organization role said there was coordination between the two and they never indicated otherwise. Durham was no different than Barr in his covering up for for Trump actions. Right-wing media which pretty much includes Turley, make everything seem alright. Yes, Clinton allies were involved in turning information suggesting Trump collusion to the FBI. Isn’t that what they were supposed to do, especially since all the “debunked” claims don’t seem to be false after all.

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-contested-afterlife-of-the-trump-alfa-bank-story

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/01/us/politics/trump-alfa-bank-indictment.html

    1. Again the courts have decreed Rachel Maddox just opinions, not to be taken as fact. Reference to her is not accepted in serious discussion x

    2. Not much of an enigma…

      You lip sync everything intelligence agents with knowledge of the matter speaking on the condition of anonymity whisper in the ears of mainstream media stenographers.

    3. Also there’s a slight difference between turning over and manufacturing information.

      1. There’s also a difference between saying those who turned over the material not actually believing it was true (as Durham did) and them steadfastly believing there was communication.

  19. Strozk is a notorious liar.

    While the Lefties will trot him out for their denial games, it is only the stupid or willfully ignorant who still give Strozk any credence.

    1. Not so sure it’s simply his being a liar. Watching him testify really made me wonder if his brain was miswired. And the playing around with someone you work with in a serious job seemed a bit off. He will never recognize the truth even if it smacks him right in the face. He seems to believe the stories he makes up and it sort of spells a mental health problem.

  20. These false denials will only end if Durham indicts and convicts senior leaders of the CIA, FBI, DOJ and/or Special Counsel’s office.

    2. Look at what was done to the first one he caught. That doesn’t bode well for a correction.

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