“Oh Georgia, No Peace I Find”: The Fourth Indictment of Donald Trump and the Criminalization of Election Controversies

Below is my column in The Messenger on the Georgia indictment. As expected, the indictment is a sweeping racketeering based prosecution involving former president Donald Trump and the 18 other defendants. The scope of the alleged conspiracy is massive.  “The call” is one of those steps but the famous line that has occupied hours of coverage (and led to the investigation) is not the central allegation. Indeed, every call, speech, and tweet appears a criminal step in the conspiracy. District Attorney Fani Willis appears to have elected to charge everything and everyone and let God sort them out.

Here is the column from yesterday before the release of the indictment:

Oh Georgia, no peace I find (no peace I find).”

Those lyrics made famous by the late, great Ray Charles could have been written for former president Donald Trump this week as he awaits his expected fourth indictment. The long-anticipated indictment by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis is expected in the coming days and will focus on alleged election tampering and related offenses in the 2020 presidential election.

If indictments were treated like frequent flyer miles, Donald Trump would get the Georgia indictment for free. However, it will be anything but costless. Regardless of the merits, it will magnify both the cost and complications for Trump.

Like the New York indictment, a Georgia indictment would not be subject to a presidential pardon. Not only have GOP candidates indicated that they would pardon Trump on any federal charges if elected to the presidency, Trump could pardon himself (including a preemptive pardon before trial) if elected — but that power does not reach state convictions.

As with Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, many view Willis as a Democratic prosecutor pursuing the highly unpopular former president. However, given the three grand juries and the three years that have passed, Willis may have found new evidence or witnesses that could tie Trump to criminal conduct in seeking to challenge the results in the election.

Thus far, the focus has been on the controversial call that Trump had with Georgia officials — a call widely cited as indisputable evidence of an effort at voting fraud. Yet, the call was similar to a settlement discussion, as state officials and the Trump team hashed out their differences and a Trump demand for a statewide recount. Trump had lost the state by less than 12,000 votes. That might be what he meant when he stated, “I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state.”

While others have portrayed the statement as a raw call for fabricating the votes, it seems more likely that Trump was swatting back claims that there was no value to a statewide recount by pointing out that he wouldn’t have to find a statistically high number of votes to change the outcome of the election. It is telling that many politicians and pundits refuse to even acknowledge that obvious alternate meaning.

For Trump’s part, he is not helping with his signature, all-caps social media attacks.

In addition to attacking Willis for a supposedly “racist” and “unethical” past, Trump recently declared that Willis “wants to indict me for a perfect phone call; this was even better than my perfect call on Ukraine.” I have previously disagreed with the claimed perfection of that Ukraine call, the subject of Trump’s first impeachment. However, neither call needs to be “perfect” to be protected.

The importance made of the call in the likely Georgia indictment will be one of the greatest “tells” as to what Willis has in terms of evidence. If the call is a critical linchpin to the prosecution, it will look like a political stunt out of the Bragg-school of prosecution.

There have also been stories indicating that Willis is focusing on connections of Trump team members like Rudy Giuliani to a “breach” of the voting system on Jan. 7, 2021. The team was seeking access to the voting machines to show that they could be compromised or manipulated. Text messages state that the team secured an “invitation” to examine the machines in Coffee County.

That “invitation” was reportedly from a Coffee County elections official, who also reportedly claimed, incorrectly, that votes could be “easily” flipped from Trump to Biden.

Coffee County was also discussed as an example of voting irregularities to justify a proposed draft executive order to seize voting machines. However, that order was never sent out.

The problem is that these messages also apparently refer to “voluntary access” and that may have been what was conveyed to Trump. One message reads: “Most immediately, we were just granted access — by written invitation! — to Coffee County’s systems. Yay!”

Yet, the Coffee County allegations highlight another risk in the Georgia prosecution. There are clearly a number of people beyond Trump who are being targeted, including his lawyers Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell. Indictments can unnerve associates who lack the money or support of Trump. That can lead to flipping key figures to offer state evidence.

The greatest challenge for Georgia is to offer a discernible limiting principle on when challenges in close elections are permissible and when they are criminal. There is a relatively short period between the presidential election in November and counting of electoral votes in January. That means that challenges are often made on incomplete data or unresolved allegations. Generally, candidates are suing election officials who control the machines, data, and other evidence needed to make a case. They often (as they did in 2020) resist demands for access to evidence.

That is not to excuse the claims made by the Trump team. In the coverage after the election, I criticized both sides. I could not understand how many experts were declaring that there was no evidence of voting irregularities a day after the election, before any data were available. However, I also said that the Trump campaign had failed to supply such evidence in critical court filings. I also publicly disagreed with Trump’s fraud claims.

It is important for campaigns to seek judicial review of election challenges without fear of prosecution. Some Democratic lawyers after 2020 made their own controversial (and unsuccessful) allegations of machines flipping or altering election outcomes. No one suggested that they should be criminally charged or disbarred.

The pile-on of prosecutions could create a chilling effect for campaigns in seeking recounts and reviews in close elections. That does not mean that there may not be evidence of knowing fraud or criminal wrongdoing. However, another anemic filing like the one in New York will only fuel the deep political divisions and unrest in the country. It needs to be clearly based on a desire for justice, rather than “just deserts.”

For Trump, of course, he may feel that (as Ray Charles sang) it always seems that “the road leads back to you” for Democratic prosecutors. That itself is not a problem so long as the road is both straight and well laid.

Jonathan Turley, an attorney, constitutional law scholar and legal analyst, is the Shapiro Chair for Public Interest Law at The George Washington University Law School.

322 thoughts on ““Oh Georgia, No Peace I Find”: The Fourth Indictment of Donald Trump and the Criminalization of Election Controversies”

  1. It’s ironic. Will courts, due process, mean anything now in select justice? Stalin is looking more like an Albert Schweitzer now in comparison.

  2. Dual benefit for this Soros prosecutor. She can prosecute Trump and ignore the street crime plaguing the residents of her city. It doesn’t get much better than that for a Democrat.

    1. @Anonymous: Re:”She can prosecute Trump..” That lot have resurrected the classic Stephen Sondheim line. .”I’m depraved on account of I’m deprived”. The progressive left’s social engineering apologia for acts of moral and ethical turpitude Victimization is now the rationale for so-called ‘restorative justice’ wherein no punishment fits the crime. There’s Alameda County CA, DA Pamela Price and her contention that offenses by those in young age groups and persons of color have been ‘overcriminalized’. There’s the Mayor of Chicago’s contention that the looting rampages by youth must be referred to as ‘gatherings’ and care must be taken as to how we characterize these pillars of the community and their behaviors. As for NY’s Alvin Bragg and his Governor, we already know the track record there. We’re right, you’re wrong! These arguments cannot be broken.

  3. It’s worth repeating (again): The Process IS the Punishment, fool, for anyone daring to say out load (or even think about) how you’ve been gypped. Let that be a lesson to all of you. — With love, The THoUghT PoLiCE

  4. Why do you say ” the highly unpopular former president” ? He’s only high unpopular in the swamp that is D.C. and the enclaves of the liberal elite never trumpers. You write many thought provoking articles on the Biden crime family and ridiculous indictments of Trump, but I have a feeling were the election to be held today you would still vote for crooked Biden.

      1. In 2020, Trump got 74,222,958 votes — compared with Obama’s best showing, which was 65,899,660 votes. Those statistics don’t translate into Trump being “unpopular” by ANY definition.

        1. That’s about 1/4 of the adult population, and the rest of the country dislikes him.

  5. There is no reason to suppose any of Trump’s prosecutors are acting in good faith. They are engaging in election interference, selective prosecution and political intimidation. They are corrupt and are supported by an amoral media and Democrat rank and file.

    The decent people of this country lack the will and the political firepower to stop this. Oh-oh. I said “firepower”. When can I expect the FBI to visit and shoot me?

  6. The fascist leftists have made it so a lawyer won’t want to defend Trump, or if the lawyer wants to defend Trump he or she will be ruined. These are the same “liberals” that want to defend child rapists, terrorists and any other murderer, rapist or violent repeat offenders without blinking.

    The leftist lawyers will do pro bono work for guys in Guantanamo even if there is hard evidence of terrorists activities, but defend a republican and you are persona non grata.

    John Adams defended British soldiers after the Boston Massacre and the leftists used to brag about it, now they won’t defend a man charged with ludicrous indictments by dim bulbs like Alvin Bragg and the new darling of the left in GA.

    At one time the ACLU defended NAZI scum and their right to march in a Jewish town, now they claim that you can’t defend a Republican because he is Hitler???? So wear an SS outfit with a Swastika and you are fine, question an election and you are Hitler.

    The arguments put forth by liberals are sickeningly dumb and it really gets frustrating trying to debate with these morons. How can you debate when the other side won’t accept empirical evidence? How can you discuss these issues with someone who says there isn’t one shred of evidence linking Joe Biden to this corruption? They are CORRUPTION DENIERS, as ridiculous as Holocaust deniers, flat earthers, 9/11 truthers amd idiots that say the science is settled on climate.

  7. I keep coming back to Chuck Schumer’s ominous warning to all Americans that “if you take on the U.S. intelligence agencies” and do not kowtow to the Administrative State that rules America its leaders have “six ways from Sunday of getting back at you.” Trump is now living four of those ways.

    1. i keep wondering who’s in charge around here?

      According to Senator Schumer it’s the Intelligence Community.. .but it’s all classified far above his level.

      *at least the CIA apologized to Chairperson Feinstein for hacking the Senate Intelligence Oversight Committee

  8. Willis will give the 19 co-defendants the opportunity to voluntarily surrender by noon on Friday, Aug. 25 rather than face arrest.

  9. I actually read the indictment.

    I couldn’t find the elements of a single criminal act.

    It’s the equivalent of a hundred pages reciting the mundane communications of 18 people planning a wedding — and one of them got the street name misspelled on the invitation, another got into an argument with someone’s aunt, another posted something mean on social media, another unsuccessfully urged the hotel manager to give them a discount on the venue, and the groom met with his lawyers to see if maybe a prenuptial agreement were warranted.

    1. Georgia needs to change its law to authorise the Governor to grant pardons, and to do so preemptively, and then Kemp should pardon Trump and all the other defendants from this and all other charges in Georgia related to the 2020 election. This law could be in effect for a limited period, after which the independent board would be restored to authority, if that is what the legislature prefers.

      Alternatively, if he has the power, Kemp should fire Willis and every other prosecutor involved, or who gets involved, in this abusive case. DeSantis has exercised this power against prosecutors in Florida.

      Similarly, the House should defund DOJ until it drops charges against Trump, and stop all funding that goes to NY and Georgia until Bragg and Willis drop their cases.

      Republicans need to stop talking and start using the power they have to end Democrat abuses and election interference.

      1. Problem is that Fani Willis was lawfully elected by the people of the state of Georgia. So was Kemp. He has no authority to override the will of the people of Georgia for following the law.

        DeSantis is a would-be dictator, and his actions are being challenged in court.

        1. you are not supposed to use Gigi until afternoon. Your morning sock puppet accounts are and always have been bug, Svelaz, sealioning Anonymous and references to Reagan, Virginia towns and others. Stick to your talking points and shift assigned identities or you will find yourself trolling the sewer drains in WeHo

          Media Matters Management

        2. Hey Gigi
Do you still think Texas makes electricity from crude oil???
          Best stop cutting and pasting from your daily democrat talking points email.

          Texas Electricity by type
          Natural gas 46%
          Wind 23%
          Coal 18%
          Nuclear 11%
          Solar 2%

        3. @Gig: Re:”DeSantis is a would-be dictator,..”Fani Willis may yet go the way of Rachael Rollins. This lot has decided that it is now their time and entitlement to seize the immoral and unethical brass ring and benefit from it. History has taught us that one person’s dictator is another person’s freedom fighter…and vice versa. We have yet to see how the Charmin will roll out.

        4. “Fani Willis was lawfully elected by the people of” Fulton County, a county that voted some 73% for Biden.

          Now your statement’s not a lie.

      2. The House cannot defund the DOJ by itself, nor should it, nor would there be the votes to stop all funding to NY and GA. You sound crazy.

        Trump is a criminal, and hopefully he’ll be found guilty by juries. Rather than accept that Trump is a criminal, you want the GOP to protect their criminal-in-chief.

        1. ATS
          “Trump is a criminal…”
          Good thing you’re not on this supposedly unbiased jury you dream of.

      3. Georgia “republicans” are corrupt RINOs. The last thing Kemp would do is stop the corrupt Fulton DA from prosecuting Trump. Kemp wants Trump prosecuted more than Willis or Joetard want it.

  10. To Whom it may concern. I know that you will probably not see this quiestion. As it might just get passed over. You have stated recentl that in the GA case against former Pres. Trump that he could not pardon himself. Did not former Pres Carter pardon Peter Yarror. For a state level sex offense against a minor.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/05/17/peter-yarrow-carter-pardon-assault/
    https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/peter-yarrow-presidential-pardon-indecent-liberties-conviction-victim-sex-abuse-lawsuit
    washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1981/02/07/folk-singer-peter-yarrow-pardoned-by-carter/0216a782-817c-4091-a0c9-e4e82624ed95/
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Yarrow

    Peter Yarrow’s page on Wikkiped, even notes.
    My question this thus two.
    1.) Does Trump have the pardon to pardon him self.
    2.) Does any president have the power to pardon for state level crimes.

    I know that i will get a response, or it will be mentioned. But I thank you for the chance to ask this question.
    Respectly yours
    B.K. McKlusky IV

  11. No worries, Trump is having a press conference on Monday to clear things up. Has a sweeping report. Will exonerate him COMPLETELY.

    Can’t wait to see what he’s got.

    Wonder what his lawyers are thinking?

    1. Trump’s report will come after his report on Obama’s citizenship that Trump also promised.

      1. Fish: thank you. He told Meredith Vieira that “you won’t believe what my people are finding “ in Hawaii about Obama. Well at least he got that right: we wouldn’t believe it. And it turns out that they found nothing to contradict the birth certificate.

        1. Obama is 100% fraud and the truth is slowly coming out. Kind of like the coming out of his ‘dreams of making love to men’….

        2. Hey Gigi
Do you still think Texas makes electricity from crude oil???
          Best stop cutting and pasting from your daily democrat talking points email.

          Texas Electricity by type
          Natural gas 46%
          Wind 23%
          Coal 18%
          Nuclear 11%
          Solar 2%

    2. Probably mostly what the Voter GA organization has documented, as I posted earlier:
      https://voterga.org/

      WHAT WE FOUND IN GEORGIA

      Six sworn affidavits of Fulton counterfeit ballots; (10s of thousands est.)

      17,724 more votes than in person recount ballot images required to tabulate votes in Fulton

      Drop box video surveillance representing 181,507 ballots destroyed in 102 counties

      Improper Chain of Custody forms for 107,000 ballots statewide

      Estimated Chain of Custody forms missing for 355,000 ballots statewide (Georgia Star)

      86,860 voters in 2020 have false registration date prior to 2017 but were not on 2017 history file

      Over 1.7 million original ballot images are lost or destroyed in 70 counties despite state, federal law

  12. Dear Prof Turley,

    If at first you don’t succeed, try, try, try and try again. That’s the commitment to transparency, openness and accountability the DoJ’s no-stone-left unturned investigation into the bribery, corruption and seditious conspiracies of the Biden Brand.

    Just kidding. Trump is the gift that keeps on giving.

    “This is a tour de force,” Aronberg said. “Jack Smith’s indictment was built for speed, Fani Willis’ was far different. His was a tactical strike on MAGA, hers is carpet bombing them into smithereens. It is shock and awe, 161 overt acts, and there are benefits to this ambitious approach, the first time the leaders will be accountable, including the lawyers who cloaked it with this false sense of legal legitimacy. The downside is, there is no way you’re going to try all 19 of the defendants at the same time.”

    *it was a rainy night in Georgia. .. Lord I feel like it’s raining all over the world.

  13. District Attorney Fani Willis thinks she is winning, as do Biden’s handlers, DOJ, FBI, MSM and the usual ilk on the Left. Yet, if they were savvy, they would pay attention to the current wave across the nation rallying behind modern day ballads and artistic expression instead of mocking them. Hits like Jason Aldean’s “Try That In A Small Town”, the blockbuster movie, “Sound of Freedom” starring Jim Caviezel, and the current popular country song, “Rich Men North of Richmond” by Oliver Anthony, all canceled by the Left as “right wing” and “conservative”. They really need to engage these people instead of throwing them into camps and gas lighting them. But that is what Hillary started in the 1990s during Bill Clinton’s presidency, with her infamous “vast right wing conspiracy” quip, and it has only gotten worse under Obama and now Biden. It appears Americans are now responding at deafening decibels. Will the Left listen?

    “Rich Men North of Richmond” has had over 12 Million views in just 7 days. If this metric translates into revenue, this musician has shown all Americans that anyone can make it if they only try.

    🎶 Livin’ in the new world
    With an old soul
    These rich men north of Richmond
    Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
    Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
    And they don’t think you know, but I know that you do
    ‘Cause your dollar ain’t shit and it’s taxed to no end
    ‘Cause of rich men north of Richmond

    I wish politicians would look out for miners
    And not just minors on an island somewhere 🎶

    1. He’s galvanized the nation leaving the Administrative State with its legions of crony capitalists, and illiberal groupies no choice but to view him as a threat to their plantation.

    2. Estovir,
      I recall a NPR postmortem analysis of the 2016 election. The reporter noted how it was the rural and areas outside of major cities the polls, the media ignored and hence got it so wrong.
      The reporter then went on to comment on how those “people” as she put it, were less educated, and of lower income. The contempt for those “people” in her voice, I could hear through the radio.
      A few months later, IIRC, the Guardian had a article about Trump supporters. That reporter actually went out to those small towns, the rural areas and got a real up close look at those people. He was much more objective and balanced than the NPR reporter. What was most interesting is he noted that the media continues to ignore those people.
      Since then, the predominately leftist occupied higher academia continues to look down on all those who are not indoctrinated in leftism. As you mentioned Clinton more than once, Obama with his they cling to their guns or religion, comment. The two tiered justice system surrounding the Biden Crime Family.
      And those people resent them. As they should.

  14. After all this time….one thing becomes quite clear to me.

    If one’s election process and procedures are squeaky clean and without any hint of monkey business….a full forensic examination of all of it should be welcomed knowing the results would confirm that and no hint of foul play would be found.

    There is the rub for Democrats….as we know the 2020 Election was anything but squeaky clean.

    We can look at Pennsylvania and how the Board of Elections ignored the State Law and was taken to task by the State Supreme Court…..long after the damage was done.

    Fraud….not in the classic sense of fraud….but underhanded and patently illegal…..yes sir absolutely.

    The response saying Trump’s campaign did not have evidence….knowing of course they did not due purely upon the refusal of Courts, Boards of Elections, and Secretaries of State, refusing to allow or provide access to data effectively stymied the needed acquisition of evidence holds far more significance than is admitted by anyone who was and remains adamantly dedicated to seeing Trump defeated.

    Now in the 2024 Election, following on the 2016 and 2020 elections, we see Trump being targeted for defeat by the same array of opponents including establishment Republicans.

    The Democrats keep saying no one is above the law….but are quite clear that when you become a challenge to their hold on power then you shall be beneath the law as they seek to destroy you.

    New York, Washington DC. Fulton County…..all Democrat socialist utopia’s and Democrat controlled with the truth of that being played out before our eyes!

    1. Besides the Atoll, lol, what is after Georgia? Trump is one indictment away from the presidency. Love your neighbor good humans, it’s about to get real.

  15. Prosecutorial misconduct across the indictments, can Trump recover his lost revenue and be compensated for his time. If he is unable to run for president can he sue for damages against the prosecutors personally and through their agencies?

  16. In other news: “U.S. Attorney for Palmyra Atoll Charges Trump with Electioneering After MAGA-Hat Washes Up On Shore.”
    ~+~
    A Deputy U.S. Attorney recently assigned by the Justice Department to the uninhabited Palmyra Atoll has now charged former president Donald Trump with electioneering and violation of environmental laws after a jetsam originated MAGA Hat was found ashore on the unorganized, unincorporated U.S. Territory.

    A spokesman for the Department accused Trump of attempting to illegally influence the voters of the island, though records show the atoll is uninhabited but somehow contributed 100,000 votes toward the last federal election

    “Donald Trump not only is polluting the political landscape of America,” the spokesman said in a statement, “…his hats are a proven source of oceanic warming and climate change.”

    1. That is rich coming from you.

      What Darren has displayed is creativity, wit, and a sense of humor.
      All things you lack.

  17. There are so many Anonymous posting here. I can’t keep them straight. One of the clan, below, says if Trump would have just faded away then none of this would be happening. Isn’t this the plan? You are making it all too obvious, friend.

    I’ll go one better. If Democrats had allowed a full forensic audit, just in six states, and come up with reasonable explanations for the various and suspicious irregularities in the election, then almost assuredly we wouldn’t be here. Stonewalling, which is what has happened to many, I’d say most, of the complaints is not a sign of a squeaky clean election. Let’s just take the Zuckbucks as an example. If they’d been spent predominantly in northern and rural Wisconsin rather than in Milwaukee and Madison, wouldn’t Democrats be complaining about an unfair election? The suspicion of a rigged election will never go away. People continue to accumulate more evidence of suspicious doings during the first 9 months of 2020.

    When a large group is asking for redress of grievances, even if they can’t make an airtight case in matter of a few weeks while being hindered by their opponents, doesn’t addressing it fairly make sense — I mean for the sake of “our democracy”?

    1. Kevin T Kilty,
      Good comment.
      And our leftist friends would call you a Qanon conspiracy theorist.

    2. >”There are so many Anonymous posting here.”

      Evidently, ‘anonymous’ is the default if one doesn’t log in under another, preferred name. It happened to me a few days ago (after cleaning out some old cookies.).

      *aside, this is the only place/blog I’m aware of where multiple users can use the same handle .. . which can result in quite a sticky wicket, to say the least.

    3. “When a large group is asking for redress of grievances, even if they can’t make an airtight case in matter of a few weeks while being hindered by their opponents, doesn’t addressing it fairly make sense — I mean for the sake of “our democracy”?

      Kevin, that’s exactly what Texas and 20 other states asked SCOTUS to do, effectively saying their collective voters efforts were nullified by Pennsylvania’s (and others) non-legislative election rules changes just prior to November 2020. The Court played the “No Standing” card instead of opining on the merits of the case itself thereby refusing to hear the concerns of millions of voters. Not hearing the case did not instill more confidence the election was clean and the results accurate.

  18. “Does it feel like the country you grew up in is dead? If you have the right politics, you can do no wrong. And if you have the wrong politics, you have no rights.

    But at least the congressional GOP is fighting to make sure Ukraine has enough money and DOJ is fully funded.” @seanmdav

  19. A big problem here is there is a grain of truth in most vantage points, but the opposing political party dismisses even the truthful parts if it doesn’t fit into their party’s narrative.

    Also too many of us view some agencies as monolithic, when the truth is no organization is monolithic. For example: there are mostly good brave cops, good FBI employees and good CIA employees many times working under bad leadership and bad systems that create really bad outcomes.

    Democrats were strongly opposed to these agencies when they used Cointelpro style tactics against Martin Kuther King, Jr and minority groups. Democrats today totally ignore unconstitutional tactics (authority no official or contractor has). Now many Trump supporters will get a taste of what MLK experienced.

    These very same unconstitutional tactics will be used against Democrats in the future. Imagine a GOP controlled Congress, WH and court system.

    Oppose the “unconstitutional-authoritarianism” (ie: Cointelpro style tactics) don’t hate or love any agency as being monolithic. No organization is monolithic. By simply demonizing the other side, this never reforms these unconstitutional practices – used against supporters of both parties.

    1. For example: there are mostly good brave cops, good FBI employees and good CIA employees many times working under bad leadership and bad systems that create really bad outcomes.

      The lack of whistle blowers tells me the rank and file would rather go along to get along. The corrupt leadership is punishing the IRS whistle blowers. One got a promotion to DC. Sold his house, packed up everything and moved to DC. Where he was immediately put on unpaid leave, and blocked from seeking out new employment.

      Much like inner city gangs, crossing the boss will get you killed.

      1. re: Iowan2

        The federal internal whistleblower channel “system” was totally dismantled in the early 2000’s. What was perfectly legal in the 1990’s was now illegal for government employees to report waste, fraud, torture, war crimes and other abuses.

        Restoring that “system” would have helped with the issue you are talking about and more importantly created a “deterrent effect” to agency supervisors being disloyal to their oath of office or other law breaking.

  20. I am not going to comment on the specifics of the indictment because I have seen it all before. The only thing that is important is that this is not “Georgia” but Fulton County which is not the same thing. Fulton County is totally democrat and has voted nearly 90%-10% democrat in the last 2 presidential election. In other words it is as bad as New York City (maybe even worse), Washington D.C., Cook County IL, Travis County TX, and other democratic bastions. In fact the only place where Trump stands a chance is Miami and the reason for the upsurge of Republicans there is the Mayor of Miami and Ron Desantis.
    This is not going to be resolved by a Pardon but Republicans do control the state Supreme Court and in the hurry of the Fulton DA to hurry to place every trump mistake and word before god, that means they are likely to make plenty of errors that can derail any conviction.
    Might be a time for the Congress to realign Federal DA’s and districts and deal with jury trials in counties and cities that are so hostile to the other political party. I think it would be within the realm of congress to set those rules since the constitution just sets up the Supreme Court whereas Congress can ordain and establish lessor courts. There is the rule that it must try cases in the area of jurisdiction but the constitution does no make any such determination of what the jurisdiction has to be or what areas it must contain. Redraw Federal districts to encompass areas of near equal political control. No one in a politically charged case should be tried in a an area 90% against him/her politically or 90% for him/her.
    If done then it might be time to push the states to do the same thing. Trump or not, I prefer justice and whatever is necessary to assure it is equally carried out. Maybe cities and counties should be stripped of DA districts and they all be drawn by the state to assure equality before the law.

      1. I concur. Justice in this country is already unafforable. Maybe we shouldn’t make it horribly biased too.

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