Below is my column in the New York Post on new evidence contradicting the account of President Joe Biden on his role in forcing the firing of Ukrainian prosecutor general Viktor Shokin. Biden’s boast about forcing the termination could become a defining moment in the corruption scandal.
Here is the column:
President Barack Obama famously warned fellow Democrats in 2020, “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f–k things up.”
The warning was ignored by many as an almost brotherly reference to Biden’s habit of making false claims (like being arrested when seeking to see Nelson Mandela) or his continual verbal gaffes.
Biden has always had a certain penchant for bragging, whether it’s claiming a dead man told him he reached a million miles on Amtrak, being a cross-country trucker or fighting off some “bad dude” named Corn Pop.
But one of those bravado moments may have revealed more than vanity.
Ironically, it’s the one controversial story that appears entirely true.
In a 2018 interview at the Council on Foreign Relations, Biden bragged that he unilaterally withheld a billion dollars in US aid from the Ukrainians to force them to fire prosecutor general Viktor Shokin.
The Ukrainians balked, but Biden gave them an ultimatum: “I looked at them and said, ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money.’ Well, son of a bitch. He got fired.”
The response from the Washington elite was rapturous, though the story was not only impolitic but embarrassing for an ally.
The Ukrainians were Joe’s new Corn Pop, and he recounted how he stared them down in a “High Noon” diplomatic moment.
A State Department memo is shedding disturbing light on that account and shredding aspects of Biden’s justification for the action.
Indeed, the ultimatum may have been the quid in a quid pro quo agreement as part of the Biden influence-peddling scandal.
The premise of the story is that Biden took this extraordinary stand because there was little hope for the anti-corruption efforts in Ukraine if Shokin remained prosecutor.
That is now questionable.
The Oct. 1, 2015, memo summarizes the recommendation of the Interagency Policy Committee that was handling the anti-corruption efforts in Ukraine: “Ukraine has made sufficient progress on its reform agenda to justify a third guarantee.”
One senior official even complimented Shokin on his progress in fighting corruption.
So Biden was told to deliver on the federal aid but elected to unilaterally demand Shokin be fired.
When the firing occurred, Shokin’s office was investigating Burisma Holdings, an energy firm that paid Hunter Biden a huge amount of money.
The State Department had identified it as a corrupt company engaged in bribery.
Recent testimony from Devon Archer, a business associate of Hunter Biden, revealed that Burisma executives made the removal of Shokin a top priority and raised it with Hunter.
He described how the need to neutralize Shokin was raised with Hunter and how “a call to Washington” was made in response. While Archer also said that “the narrative spun to me was that Shokin was under control,” he and others also heard concerns over Shokin and the risks of the investigation.
President Biden has insisted, “I did nothing wrong. I carried out the policy of the United States government in rooting out corruption in Ukraine. And that’s what we should be focusing on.”
Indeed, that will now be the focus, including the close correlation of the money and demands going to Hunter and the actions of his father.
There is evidence the State Department was alarmed by Hunter’s work and its impact on anti-corruption efforts.
While Joe was portraying his work as fighting corruption, some officials were warning the Bidens could be part of the problem, not the solution, in Ukraine.
Leading diplomat George Kent wrote then-Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, “The real issue to my mind was that someone in Washington needed to engage VP Biden quietly and say that his son Hunter’s presence on the Burisma board undercut the anti-corruption message the VP and we were advancing in Ukraine b/c Ukrainians heard one message from us and then saw another set of behavior with the family association with a known corrupt figure whose company was known for not playing by the rules.”
As part of the first impeachment of Donald Trump, Democrats largely dismissed earlier accounts of these misgivings and portrayed Shokin as a thoroughly corrupt prosecutor perpetuating corruption.
Biden’s Ukrainian Corn Pop story was celebrated as a gutsy moment of leadership.
During the impeachment, Kent said Biden’s demand was consistent with US policy.
Yet we now know the State Department had found progress was being made on corruption and Shokin was praised in private correspondence.
The demand for the replacement of the equivalent of the attorney general in another country is an extraordinary move.
We give massive amounts of money to countries with rampant corruption and authoritarian records.
But Biden decided Shokin had to go and used public money to make that happen.
The memo also highlights the flaws in the Trump impeachment.
When I testified before the House Judiciary Committee at the only impeachment hearing, I told the committee it should not depart from history and proceed to an impeachment without fact witnesses on the grounds for impeachment.
Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Rep. Adam Schiff and others refused.
It now seems there was material evidence that would have been used at the impeachment trial.
Trump was alleging there was a conflict of interest with the Bidens, and the evidence could have challenged Biden’s account and established his son’s interest in the Shokin firing.
I still do not believe Trump should have raised the matter in that call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
This evidence may not have made a difference to some senators, but it demonstrates why impeachments should proceed after fact hearings.
Instead, in the second impeachment, the Democrats went one better.
They used what I called a “snap impeachment” without even a hearing on the impeachment standards and articles.
The House could now have little choice but to hold the very hearings the Democrats blocked during the earlier impeachment — with a different president under constitutional scrutiny.
Jonathan Turley is an attorney and professor at George Washington University Law School.
The corruption is blatant and unapologetic. We are approaching an important election and Americans will witness gloves off, below the belt subversive subterfuge. We will experience lockdowns, social distancing and mandates against gatherings. There will be censorship and canceling of opposing views.
What exactly or how exactly is difficult to say, but there will be something “catastrophic” imposed on this process. Nothing says free speech like arresting your political opponents. It is not a stretch to imagine there are “plans within plans.”
E.M.
Watching the calls for masking and social distancing over nothing will be the attempt to curtail freedom and expand government power.
It will become a division line: Dont mask and you are a threat. Mask and you are a sheep.
What is so completely maddening about this whole thing is how long this particular set of events, along with most other evidence in this bribery scheme, was out in the conservative press YEARS ago. As in, a few months after the laptop was discovered and authenticated (which it was almost immediately after being discovered). Yet it was ignored by the MSM. The recordings of Joe pressuring Petro Poroshenko were out there. The email from the State Department praising Viktor Shokin for addressing corruption was out there. Hunter’s text to his daughter, whining that SHE wouldn’t have to give HER father half of her earnings like HE has had to do with Poppy all of his adult life was OUT THERE. The only thing that has truly surfaced in the last several days are the tapes of Burisma’s Zlochevsky complaining to his associates about being coerced into giving both Hunter and Joe each $5 million to keep the prosecutor away from investigating the company. Who knew that Zlochevsky had a pet dog smarter than Hunter Biden.
It wasn’t just ignored by the MSM. It was ignored by most prominent Republicans. They were so committed to the “interagency” view in favour of Ukraine and against Russia that they steered clear of Biden’s obvious corruption. Even during the impeachment, Trump’s defenders did not argue that he was fully justified in asking Zelensky to investigate Biden’s corruption. Only Johnson and Grassley pursued this later, but few others joined them.
And Bill Barr’s DOJ buried the Form 1023 with its bombshell allegations. Had that form been revealed in July 2020, what impact would it have had on the election?
In the fifty years following Roe v Wade, 60 million unborn children have been intentionally killed by doctors, enabled by leftist Supreme Court justices, some of whom have been appointed by Republican presidents.
Since January 2021, over 100,000 Americans have died from fentanyl, enabled by leftist open-border policies.
And, since February 2022, hundreds of thousands of Russians and Ukrainians have been killed fighting a war against each other, enabled by leftist and RINO warmongers in America.
If you like killing, vote Democrat. If you like killing, vote RINO.
@Winnsboro,
First, I strongly suggest you learn more about fetal anatomy.
Start with gross fetal malformations.
Then you start to realize why there are reasons to terminate pregnancies.
Also learn a bit more about pregnancies in general. Your assumption of life begins at conception (really its the potential for life) … doesn’t consider that the fetus isn’t viable until late term. Also consider women who get pregnant but slough off the embryo during a period. Or miscarry. Should we charge them with murder?
That would be consistent with your view of the world… yet we don’t. So what does that tell you?
I think its time you grow up. Roe v Wade wasn’t a good ruling, but it was crafted for a good reason.
-G
Jeezus, is this parody?? Because if not, i dont know where to begin.
1. Yikes! You seriously conflated an early term miscarriage with a 24 week abortion??? Go shoot a woman dead who is 24 weeks pregnant and use that “period” argument for why you shouldn’t be charged with double homicide.
2. So u have gross fetal malformations. How many other “good reasons” you got for late term abortion?
3. “Roe v Wade wasn’t a good ruling, but it was crafted for a good reason.”
Because thats how it works in this country, right? F the constitution if its for the right reasons. Thanks for saying the quiet part out loud.
I may not be an OB/GYN, but i did stay at a holiday inn express last night.
I also know what a woman is, unlike the latest lefty hack on the SCOTUS
I’ve never met anyone who was ‘pro abortion’. Especially the women getting abortions.
*imho, the issue is the state’s authority, not to mention ability, to intercede into such personal decisions .. . and I thought Roe v Wade was a reasonable, workable, compromise.
Well, you got that right. 99% of the whackos out there screaming at the top of their lungs, are NOT the women getting abortions. But they are definitely pro abortion.
You are also right in that the federal government has enumerated powers, and regulating abortion aint one of them.
Roe was a compromise that the federal government was not entitled to make.
Well, if the SCOTUS is not entitled to make such decisions (Roe v Wade) on behalf of the state, who is?
*also, I think there is a distinction between people who may support a woman’s right to some bodily autonomy in pregnancy and people you say are ‘pro abortion’ …
“some bodily autonomy”
There’s the rub. Scotus decided how much, with ZERO basis in the constitution. Their ruling literally was “a woman has a right to privacy until she doesn’t.
Sure they do (Hobbs).
But their decisions should be grounded in the constitution and logic, not ideology. Otherwise, its subject to being overturned.
I’d love to stick around in this convo, but its truly not worth my time.
For reference, i am not some anti-woman whacko. I have been involved in 3 abortions. I’m not proud of that, nor will i burn in hell for it. But the constitution is the law of the land. Not “conditions on the ground”. Thats what constitutional amendments are for.
But the democrat party has made this a huge issue for years. They use it to rile their voters. Its not about women. If it was, they wouldnt want men in women’s sports. Tell me what there is to celebrate about that. They trick their one issue bloc into believing its still a federal issue so that should determine your vote on a federal level. I dont gaf what the presidential candidate thinks about abortion. Its not his call and never will be. Its over. Its in the hands of the several states. There’s your fill stop.
There was a question there? I live in my state. I vote in my state on issues involving my state. Not too concerned about whether colorado has abortion on demand and mississippi does not. In fact, if it came up on initiative in my state, i wouldnt vote, because i really dont have a dog in the fight. But the law of the land is the states decide, and i agree with that because its what the constitution demands If the pro lifers dont get what they want, too bad. If you dont like it cuz miississippi has a 6 week ban, too bad. “I dont like it” is not an argument.
“But ‘I don’t like it’ is your position on Roe and it’s existence for fifty years.”
Whichever anonymous you are, your understanding fails to meet standard requirements. Tom rightfully supports federalism.
My position on roe is that it was flawed. I dont like or dislike it. I like Dobbs because they followed the constitution, they didnt add to it.
Nice try.
Oh, you shredded me with that one didnt you!!!
LMAO good one smeagol
“So you don’t like, or dislike, Roe? But you like Dobbs? Explain.”
Because Roe was judicial activism, with no basis in the constitution. They tried to come up with a compromise for “conditions on the ground”. It was a decent compromise, and i dont have radical feelings about it one way or the other. But it was flawed, both logically and constitutionally.
Dobbs corrected the mistake. I like that. It gave the power to the people, as required by the constitution. You can disagree with that if you want, lord knows you’ve been wrong before.
If you think the founders were a few radicals who set about one day on this “great experiment”, you’d be wrong again. The basis of our constitution was hundreds of years in the making. It exists as is to protect us from tyranny. Those who would choose to ignore it or add to it by other means are the only real enemy within.
“The basis of our constitution was hundreds of years in the making.” Longer than that…
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No, thats why a panel of lawyers doesnt get to decide when it begins.
Not to mention, red herring boy, that in 1973, the court never said thats when life begins. Nice try.
“Life begins at Physical viability” decided by lawyers.
Can anyone be this dumb?
Why are you conflating physical viability and the beginning of life??? Yea, trust me, that is stupid.
“wants to define when life begins”
Your words
Lets try this again.
Roe didnt define when life begins. They defined “viability” as the point where a woman’s right to privacy is no longer compelling. Flawed.
Do u want to say life begins at viability, and that any other opinion is simply religious heresy? Because the supreme court never said life begins at viability.
Reasonable people can have a discussion about that, and thats good. But scotus dont get to decide and neither do you. As required by the constitution, the people will.
I hate it for ya.
The difference between me and you is that i dont care what happens in those states, so long as they are exercising their constitutional rights.
“But it’s practical and fits the conditions on the ground.”
The remedy for “conditions on the ground” is leave it to the people or constitutional amendment. There is no other remedy. Sorry if thats not practical for you.
“Nah. You care. You’re just forced to live with the red herring that the anti abortion lobby spouted for decades.”
Ok bro—-ask hunter for another hit.
Its really not a conversation if you get to tell me what i think. But thats kinda the point, isn’t it pinhead?
6 times the people have spoken and more to come. Thats great!
Wonder if they would have spoken the same way in 1973. We’ll never know because people like you celebrate that some lawyers took their real rights away for 50 years.
“Any state that puts abortion rights to an initiative will see abortion rights come out ahead.”
And you still dont get it, do you?
I think thats fantastic!
Difference is
You see it as a win for abortion rights.
I see it as a win for the constitution and the American way.
You like it when you get your way. I like it when things are as they should be.
“Dobbs overturned a civil right in place for fifty years.”
A “right” granted by lawyers, not the constitution.
OVERTURNED because it was flawed.
But opinions are like buttholes, and you’re entitled to yours.
LMAO nice talking point. Did u just make that up?
Its got traction man. Stick with that.
U really have trouble getting sarcasm, don’t you??
LMAO
“Sadly, it’s just the truth.”
“I reject your reality, and substitute my own”——smeagol
So your argument as proof of the feds empowerment is that they did it for 50 years. Hmmmm, how long did dread scott stand?
Not gonna waste much time on you this morning smeagol.
I also dont see in the constitution the feds power to “adopt to conditions on the ground”. And that whole full stop thing, is that supposed to end the debate??
Maybe you should read Hobbs again if you dont think 7 people got it wrong and usurped their power in 1973. It’s the law of the land, like it or not. But hey, if you think its stupid, well, it must be. Another compelling argument.
Discounting the stretching of the 14th amendment, the state has no right to interfere with a womans privacy until they have a right to?? Wtf kind of logic is that??? It was a flawed decision. Full stop.
“right to have an abortion”
Lmao
See below…
Anyone has a right to an abortion, but they do not have a right to kill.
There ya go, the “founders” argument. There is a remedy for enumerating the feds with powers they dont currently hold. Do you know what thats called. Hint—-its not judicial activism.
Keep up the attacks, but this thread is staying bro.
Darren, please dont delete this.
I took that line because its the basis for the whole argument.
jeezus dude, really??? You’re the one trying to conflate it into something else.
“You took that line in order to avoid the other questions.”
Nope. I addressed them all. Give me time and i will refute every ignorant statement. The basis for the whole argument is its constitutionality so i took that one first. Do you wanna run away from what u said? Essentially you said, anything the founders didnt think of, we have a court for that. I disagree. In fact they did think of it. They said leave it to the people or amend the constitution. It doesnt matter whether you like it or not, or whether the fetus is viable, or any of the rest of your red herrings.
“…Roe v Wade was a reasonable, workable, compromise.” Unless, of course, it’s *your* limbs being ripped away for your tiny little body and scull being crushed, all without the even slightest way to defend yourself. Verdict: Death Sentence. After not being found guilty of any capitol crime or having any representation during any trial, for the most innocent among us. “Compromise”.
Let us pause for a brief moment of unvarnished truth:
https://twitter.com/grhdhp/status/1694538863547400367?s=20
Bob Lawblaw, The Trump economy was very goood for the big guy.
Just watched the Trump interview with Tucker Carlson. It was intelligent and informative — and Trump really cracked me up when he did a very brief impersonation of Kamala Harris. After starting to talk about her around the 12:30 mark, he does the impersonation at the 12:55 mark:
https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1694513603251241143?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
It was an interview that was both pleasant and informative — probably the exact opposite of what went on with the mongrel dogfight at the Fox Losers Debate.
Tonight’s GOP debate demonstrates that Trump’s hostile takeover of the GOP is complete. He’s humiliating and showing dominance over all parties involved — Fox News, the RNC, other candidates. They kowtow to him even though he openly scorns them.
As Lindsey Graham wrote, “If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed … and we will deserve it.”
Lindsay Graham learned something and now supports Trump. Trump is the man for the job, but you haven’t learned anything..
Say what you wish anonymous, but you talk and talk without facts while making things up. You have no name and are worthless.
Biden is a crook.
Trump moved the nation in the right direction.
From that vantage point there are all different directions.
“Trump is a walking crime wave”
You sound like Bug, ignorant and dirty. You provide zero facts to debate. Go back to blowing up your deflated basketballs.
Why the hell is the disgusting disgraceful shameful GOP preventing Larry Elder from being part of the debate? They let a big nothing named Asa Hutchinson, who nobody knows or needs to hear ANYTHING from, a spot on the debate stage and they keep Larry Elder off? Go to hell GOP. You all suck.
Perry Johnson is good too.
Joe and Hunter will be watching the GOP debate tonight from their luxury $20 million dollar vacation rental on Lake Tahoe.
Enjoy yet another vacation Joe. It seems that is all you do….take time off. You suck.
@AuronMacintyre
The regime perp walked an awful lot of political opponents today.
Any GOP candidate who doesn’t treat that like an urgent and existential problem disqualifies themselves.
“Lindsey Graham is such a genius” said no one ever.
Careful Ralph, i almost choked on my taco with that one!!!
“We’re going to love him,” Trump said of Graham. “I know it’s half and half, but when I need some of those liberal votes, he’s always there to help me get them. We’ve got some pretty liberal people, but he’s good. We know the good ones.”
*“It took a while to get there folks, but let me tell you what happened,” Graham said Saturday. “I’ve come to like President Trump, and he likes himself, and we’ve got that in common.”
The mug shots today…of the LAWYERS….and Rudy Giuliani….among others….absolute outrage…should remind everyone who the ACTUAL CRIMINALS are whose mug shots should have been in those shots:
Should be: Brennan, Clapper, Rice, Monaco, Comey, Strzok, Page, McCabe, Yates. Among others.
This is a disgrace beyond disgrace. And where is Republican leadership? Not a freakin’ peep of outrage or protest. Go to hell GOP losers.
Agree. But what does it tell us about NYC that no one there is outraged by the political persecution of their former mayor? Compare NYC before Guiliani to NYC after Guiliani. Night and day. They should worship his image in all public places. When people are incapable of gratitude, what good are they to anybody?
Graham tweeted that on May 3, 2016 and, as it turned out, Graham was wrong. In 2020, Graham supported Trump. And. currently, Graham is campaigning for Trump.
“Yet we now know the State Department had found progress was being made on corruption and Shokin was praised in private correspondence.
The demand for the replacement of the equivalent of the attorney general in another country is an extraordinary move.
We give massive amounts of money to countries with rampant corruption and authoritarian records.
But Biden decided Shokin had to go and used public money to make that happen.”
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“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn’t. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn’t be. And what it wouldn’t be, it would. You see?”
― Lewis Carroll, Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland
Congrats, Lewis with The King of Fools Biden, you got it baby – in spades.
As our trolls and our federal government have been happy to illustrate for us, becoming a card carrying democrat in the 21st century requires surgically transplanting a male cow’s a*us onto the mouth, and slightly less painful, filling in dollars where a soul used to be. It is all so utterly and inhumanly corrupt and indefensible at this point, there are no other words. JFK isn’t rolling in his grave, he skipped off to another dimension entirely and washed his hands.
Jamed, well said.
Sigh. Hasty typos at work. ‘James’. Sometimes I think we here are the only ones paying attention to and discussing anything whatsoever, and then a typo like that. Careless.
I am new here, so could someone tell me what this Natacha person got so badly busted for, that she had to go away and come back as this Gigi character? It must have been a whopper, because this Gigi has no shame whatsoever. She will repeat a lie she told right beneath the post that proved she was lying? Its almost hard to watch this train wreck everyday.
Tucker Carlson
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Former President Trump’s prerecorded sit-down with ex-Fox News host Tucker Carlson will be released Wednesday night as the first presidential debate in Milwaukee — which the GOP front-runner opted to skip —…
When will it air?
The interview will air at 𝟖:𝟓𝟓 𝐩.𝐦. 𝐖𝐞𝐝𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐝𝐚𝐲 𝐄𝐓., just minutes before GOP candidates take to the debate stage in Milwaukee.
Where will it air?
Those interested in the interview can tune into Carlson’s account on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter.
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Show the Professor’s statement…..”When the firing occurred, Shokin’s office was investigating Burisma Holdings, an energy firm that paid Hunter Biden a huge amount of money.”…. not have read “an energy firm that WAS paying Hunter Biden a huge amount of money….” as Hunter was on the payroll at a cool 83,000 US dollars per month at the time of the Joe Biden ultimatum as I recall it. (Or am I wrong in that recollection?).
There was a direct conflict of interest in Joe’s action and Hunter’s pockets being lined by Burisma especially if Ol’ Joe went against the State Department’s official position.
We must stop tap dancing around the truth folks. You can identify a Pig by the stink of the slimy much they live in….and this stinks to high heaven!
No matter how much cheap French perfume the Democrats try to douse this Hawg with….there is not disguising it from being anything but well doused Pig wearing cheap French stink water.
Is there ANY need for constitutional scholars in totalitarianism? Just wondering…..
The Oct. 1, 2015 State Department memo shows that Joe Biden had little or no official U.S. government basis for extorting the Ukrainian government as he did. The memo is indispensable evidence for honest and forthright prosecutors to consider that Joe Biden took it upon himself to use his official U.S. government position solely to continue and advance his son’s business dealings with Burisma. Add the memo to the mix and there is now more than enough evidence to merit a thorough special prosecutor investigation of Biden’s involvement in his son’s business dealings. What say you, Merrick Garland?
Unfortunately Garland is the LAST PERSON I want affiliated with an investigation of our lying puppet POTUS. Better to have the House do it and have it done with transparency and at least some premise of truth-seeking. I would hope Garland falls down the stairs soon so he can’t screw up anything else.
How dare Turley quote Politico!!!
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/08/14/obama-biden-relationship-393570
Poor Gigi, she has no shame. Lie number 70 for her.
Except that Turley didn’t–he quoted the NY Post. Click on the link above.
OT,
“The Biden administration on Thursday announced new tariffs on can-making metal imported from China, Germany and Canada, a move that food companies say could lead to higher prices for some canned foods.
Chinese products would be subject to the highest tariffs of the three countries—a levy of 122.52% of their import value. That rate partly reflects Chinese companies’ refusal to cooperate with the investigation to prove their independence from the Chinese Communist Party, an administration official said.
The Consumer Brands Association, a trade group representing companies such as Campbell Soup and Fresh Del Monte Produce, estimated new tariffs, if applied aggressively, could raise the prices of canned food by up to 30%.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/major-supply-chain-issues-are-starting-develop-all-over-country
The Biden admin is not done with putting the screws to the lower and middle class of Americans. This is Bidenecomics at work, or not at work.
Invest in chickens and PMs.
And learn how to make your own stock and soup.
Upstate Farmer: Or learn how to have a fair election between two candidates whose total ages together should not exceed 80.
Bob,
I have more faith and confidence in the chickens, PMs, making my own soup than I do in fair elections after the last go around.
Despite my frequent disagreements with Professor Turley, I am very glad this space exists. With that being said, the tone of some of the comments is so disagreeable as to be downright inappropriate. We all have strong feelings on current events, but to those bandying words like “pathetic” about: I suggest you look in the mirror. Civilized people can disagree in a civilized manner. If all you have is ad hominem attacks, you have very little.
It seems to me that there is a wilful refusal on one side of the political fence to grow up and look facts in the face. Any attempt to draw this faction out of Neverland is met with snarling resistance. The party of love and tolerance is really outdoing itself.
deboluccia: You think it’s “civilized” for Turley to use his credentials to, for example, claim that Barak Obama said Joe Biden can “f” things up–based on second-hand information from a un-named Democrat published in a piece in the New York Post? Why doesn’t one of your right-wing media ask Obama directly if he ever said that? And, it’s no coincidence that the story came from the New York Post, a Murdoch-owned publication. How about today’s piece that cites an unnamed author of an alleged memorandum that supposedly proves that Biden withheld aid to Ukraine until it fired a prosecutor who was allegedly investigating Burisma–when, in fact, there’s no evidence of corruption involving the Bidens and the international community all supported removing the prosecutor because he refused to investigate or prosecute corruption? I cited a USA Today piece that names names. Turley doesn’t. Joe Biden did not act either arbitrarily or alone in seeking to remove the prosecutor, and yet Turley claims that Biden’s defense is “falling apart” and he tries to defend Trump’s withholding of aid to Ukraine which was a quid pro quo to gin up lies about the Bidens.. Turley presents virtually NOTHING that would be admissible in a court of law to support his claim that Biden’s defense is “falling apart”, but, yet, he knows that the faithful will believe whatever he says.
What “facts” am I missing? My point in all of this is that Turley knows there aren’t any actual FACTS behind much of what he posts, that he cites un-named and unknown authors of “memos” and “allegations” as if they are the truth, knowing that believers in right-wing propaganda don’t know the difference between actual facts and “allegations”. And, it’s no coincidence that just last night Fox went on a rant attacking Joe Biden for being corrupt, arrogant….etc. So, they trot out Turley to beef up the attack. For a law professor to sell his credentials to such an effort IS pathetic. .
Gigi
Repeating a lie over and over doesn’t make it true.
Politico reported that. You know that right wing rag…(thats sarcasm for the 3rd graders here)
Here is the article so you can educate yourself for once.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/08/14/obama-biden-relationship-393570
It has a lot more examples of the disdain Obama had for Pedo Joe. And why wouldn’t he? Joe said that Obama being the first 14 to wash his armpits was like a fairytale.
Lie number 70 for Gigi
Keep ’em coming G!
Gigi: GOP just taking a page out of the Dem playbook. Works both ways…
Gigi, you wouldn’t know a fact if it crawled up your butt and got stuck in your ear.
You wanna discredit the NYP for saying it was reported by Politico, as if it wasn’t???
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/08/14/obama-biden-relationship-393570
Go read it yourself, come back and tell us what it says. Or maybe you’d like me to take you down memory lane for all the other racist, mysoginist, sexist, and just plain ignorant sh!t Pedo Joe has said over the years. Then another walk down all the provable lies he’s told. But you wanna belive him on this one, right? Right. Hit that pipe again, it seeems to be working good.
Name the Democrat who said this–NAME THEM! You can’t, and neither can Politico, the NY Post or anyone else. But, does that stop them from harping on it? A law professor knows better. And, all of the other attacks on Joe Biden are just a distraction away from his success in turning around the disaster he was left with from Trump: an economy in shambles, COVID out of control, schools, restaurants, businesses shut down,no leisure travel, and trashed relations with our EU and NATO allies Biden got passed the Inflation Reduction Act, Infrastructure Act, COVID Relief Act, and Debt Ceiling Act–more than most Presidents and way more than Trump ever could. So, alt-right media quotes an un-named and unidentified source for a vicious attack on Joe Biden. It’s all they have as a diversion away from Trump’s four indictments and endless lying.
Obfuscating is a losing strategy.
Politico reported it. Period
Liar
Talk to them if you doubt their reporting.
The only “true” thing is that Politico published a piece claiming an unnamed Democrat made the statement attributed to Obama.That’s not PROOF that Obama made the statement. You don’t seem to understand the difference, and, based on your discipleship to alt right propaganda, you don’t care. Turley does know the difference. Snopes says the claim is unproven.
Snopes. You just can get enough of being ridiculed, can you??? LMAO
“Snopes says…”
– Nutchachacha
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What a ——- idiot!
You didnt go read the article did you? The person is named in the article. So what, now you’ll say that person is lying.
I clicked on the link from Turley’s piece, and there’s no one identified in the NY Post piece that Turley cites. How does this make me a “liar”?
Because you are too lazy to do you own research. LIAR
I was commenting on what TURLEY claimed. The link he provided is from a NY Post article that claims an un-named Democrat quoted Obama as saying that. THAT NY Post piece is what Turley was relying on. Turley didn’t even bother to use his usual hedge language, like “allegedly “. His statement implies it is a proven fact that Obama made the statement. The piece he cites doesn’t prove anything, and I’m not a liar.
“and I’m not a liar.”
You are such a liar that i am getting weary pointing it out. Here’s another example of you lying
“Inflation is going down every month”.
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/current-inflation-rates/
The annual inflation rate for June was 3.0%
The annual inflation rate for July was 3.2%
LIAR
If you remain in denial, I am going to keep pointing out your lies one at a time.
Here’s another of your lies that i previously pointed out.
“The D.C. National Guard writes on its websites (emphasis ours)”
Emphasis whose, ya big fat liar??
Another cut and paste from the infamously lazy reporter Gigi.
Cut and pasted from some left wing rag, no doubt.
First of all, just how many “websites” does the dc guard have?
Secondly, by actually going to their website, it took me 30 seconds to find this:
Additionally, at the request of the MAYOR OF THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA and at the approval of the Secretary of the Army, the D.C. National Guard forms the Joint Task Force to support both federal and local law enforcement, emergency response and emergency management agencies
Emphasis mine, for the sake of the brain dead.
Being misinformed is your right. Being too lazy to find the truth for yourself and repeating that filth here makes you a LIAR
Why dont you go read the capitol police chief’s account of that day (you know, someone who was actually there) and come back here and tell us all what you learned.
You also lied by effectively claiming that the Chief of Capitol Police doesnt know his own f-ing chain of command. Because he said he answers to the Sergeant at Arms and the SAA answers to the Speaker of the House.
LIAR
You still have not acknowledged the truth of what I wrote: I criticized Turley for unqualifiedly claiming that Obama “famously warned” about Biden f*ing up. That’s what Turley said, and the link to the NY Post piece does NOT prove Obama said this or even name the Democrat who claims he heard Obama say it. Portraying second-hand gossip as established fact, without any qualification, is beneath a lawyer–much less someone who holds himself out to be a law professor. That is the point of my comment, plus the fact that Turley knows the Fox audience doesn’t know the difference and doesn’t question it. I still want you to name the Democrat who claims Obama made this comment. I can’t seem to find the name any place.
And, the upshot of all of this is that by Turley posting second-hand gossip and portraying it as established fact is the difference between a legal commentator who deserves to be taken seriously for his legal acumen and a purchased political pundit.
“Endless lying.” Lol easy for you to say. You’re only on number 78 now after that last post.
We all know that you’re among the 15% who feel the country is headed in the right direction. Only reason its not more is because the crack pipe is only so big.
But thanks as always for your amazingly compelling arguments that Americans dont know wth they are talking about when it comes to their own lives.
Can i get an eight grader in here to debate, this is getting boring.
Speaking of lying,
How many oil fired power plants are left in the US, G?
And where are they located? Any in Texas???
“So, alt-right media quotes an un-named and unidentified source for a vicious attack on Joe Biden.”
Jeezus There ya go with that lying crap again. It was a lie the first time u said it and it still is.
Unless we are all to believe that Politico is now alt-right. Where tf does that put u on the spectrum??? Pluto???
Gigi: Here’s the problem I have with you and your ilk (look it up): You all are focused exclusively on what Trump did in the past and punishing him for it. Go ahead, because the flip side is others will do the same with your boy China Joe…as they should. The BIG DIFFERENCE is that Joe is killing the country RIGHT NOW, AS PRESIDENT. Trump is not president and his misdeeds are in the past. So for me, the urgency is NOW and what is happened with the guy who is PRESIDENT NOW…$78b to Ukraine, no accounting, no audits. Explain please, or shut up.
Just HOW is Biden “killing” the country? We have record low unemployment, COVID is under control, inflation has gone down every month, we have mended relations with our allies, we have the Infrastructure Act that will make long-overdue repairs to bridges and airports, we have the COVID Relief Act, Inflation Reduction Act that will provide caps on prescription drugs, and a Debt Ceiling Act, that we’re mostly bipartisan. Because of Biden, Finland is seeking to join NATO, which is stronger than ever. Ukraine is holding off Russia. Congress approved aid to Ukraine. HOW is any of this “killing “ America?
“Inflation is going down every month”.
You are a liar again, and you dont even understand what that means. Prices are up from the already elevated point they were a year ago. We are supposed to be grateful for that??? Are you that dense? Not to mention that inflation has come down from the half century high that HE and the dems created. Get a clue. And why did inflation come down, ya dufus?? Hint- it wasnt the Inflation Reduction Act. Let me tell you. By raising interest rates. Go see how much the payment rises for a $300k home between 3% and 7% and come back and tell us all how great the economy is. Tell the first time home buyer who cant afford a home now how great things are. Unemployment numbers mean nothing, it was low before the pandemic. Labor participation tells more of the story but its way more complex than “unemployment woohoo the economy must be great!!” Tell the small business owner who has a service company with a fleet of vehicles and whose yearly gas expenditure has more than doubled under your hero and as a direct result of his EO’s.
Our “allies” are laughing at Joe falling asleep in international meetings, and some are wondering why he is parading his corrupt, dead beat, drug addicted son around on his international trips.
If its so great Gigi, why does 80% of the country disagree with you??? You wanna make a case for your party’s policies, good luck. You wanna make one for Pedo Joe, it just makes you look delusional.
And i wont even bother with the Finland thing LMAO
Tom,
Even Biden said he wished he never called (Inflation Reducation Act) it that.
BLS even quietly said the act will have little to do with reducing inflation.
The unemployment rate is not a good metric to measure unemployment. The Home Household survey is a better one, which I have pointed out to Natasha more than once. It shows more Americans are working two or even three jobs to make ends meet.
Just read an article last week of more Americans are cashing in their 401k to make ends meet.
Another showed Americans have depleted their savings and are using credit cards to make ends meet. The use of credit cards surpassed $1t dollars, a all time record and a first.
Food, rent, gas, all persist to be higher costs when compared to this time last year. That is inflation at work. Inflation the Biden admin created.
COVID under control? Then why is CNN running an article with the title, “It may be time to break out the masks against Covid, some experts say.”
The Russian/Ukraine war? Bad US foreign policy and NATO expansion is the reason why we are where we are. Foreign policy experts going back over a decade pointed it out.
Under the Biden admin, de-dollarization has accelerated to the point we just may see the dollar collapse in our lifetimes. The BRICS for a long time have been looking for an alternative banking system decoupled from the dollar. The Biden admin sanctions against Russia caused a major shift in the geopolitical landscape. Some 34 countries are either applying for BRICS membership, or have expressed interest in MOU/MOAs. Saudi Arabia just may become the newest member. India and the UAE just signed a oil deal paid in rupees.
The whole world smells and sees weakness in the Biden admin. They are either taking advantage of it, or positioning themselves to insulate themselves from a USD collapse. They see the writing on the wall, and are preparing for a post-US/West lead unipolar world for a mulit-polar one.
No. The US is on the decline as all empires eventually do. It has been for some time, and several president admins. The Biden admin just kicked it into high gear.
Invest in chickens and PMs.
Natasha,
If COVID is under control then why is Kaiser Permanente in Santa Rosa reinstating mask mandates?
Back in 2019, Trump sent Rudy Giuliani to Ukraine in an effort to link Joe Biden to Burisma. In fact, Rudy Giuliani functioned as Trump’s all purpose trouble-shooter on many different intrigues.
But now Rudy Giuliani finds himself in the same position as those Atlantic City subcontractors Trump allegedly stiffed years ago. That’s right, Trump has stiffed Rudy with regards to extensive legal fees.
It’s not just Rudy, Trump has stiffed a number of lawyers who made false election claims on Trump’s behalf. One lawyer has resorted to a Go-Fund-Me site. As for Rudy, his Manhattan co-op is now for sale.
Some observers predict that when Trump’s many trials get under way, the bill could come due for all these unpaid bills. That is, certain lawyers may turn up as witnesses for the prosecution.
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4165383-trump-infighting-risks-rise-as-allies-face-legal-bills-cash-crunch/
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Theres a red under my bed
And there’s a little orange man in my head
And he said, “you’re not going crazy, you’re just a bit sad”
“‘Cause there’s a man in ya, gnawing ya, tearing ya into two”
—–Humbry
I’m guessing you cited The Hill as your source because your subscription to Mad Magazine expired.
“What, me worry?”
This debate whether President Biden is a Tyke (unpleasant/course man), and the quest of the partisan lefts defense of his actions reminds me of an old Western Movie. A Wagon is heading for a cliff out of control, and everyone bails to save themselves. Of course, the horses (Biden and family) don’t survive. Whatever spooked the horses varied with the plot, but in the case of the Biden Family the ever-increasing evidence of corruption and deceit will eventually require the riders to jump from the wagon for safety. Daily new evidence (circumstantial and provable) is uncovered from the wagon’s wreckage telling a story about the horses’ behavior prior to the eventual fall off the cliff. This yarn will be documented in the annals of history as the (you can insert the pejorative[s] here) Presidency!
George W,
Oh, but how will the annals of history view the Biden presidency?
According to our leftist friends, he has done no wrong despite taking millions of dollars in money for . . . access to the Biden family brand and making problems go away. The fact one of those people paying millions said his own dog was smarter than Hunter would be a interesting footnote.
Meanwhile, the other half of America is looking at all this and saying, “They (Biden Crime Family) are flaunting their corruption with a compliant DOJ, FBI, IRS and MSM right in our faces and expect us not to get angry?”
The obvious two-tiered justice system at work.
Upstate
Another story which could be apropos is about the salesman Gregor Samsa. Some days when I consider what America has become with all the insanity and lawless behavior, I wonder if Kafka may have seen the future and wrote a tale of transformation about what Biden, the democratic left, and WOKE has brought!
George W,
Awesome Kafka reference!
Well played good sir! Well played indeed!
@Upstate
Joe Biden has already cemented his position as the worst POTUS in the history of this country.
There is no debating that fact.
The only question I have is if Putin would have invaded Ukraine if Trump was POTUS.
My guess is no he would not have invaded.
-G
2015 Joe Biden’s Income: $ 310,919
2016 Joe Biden’s Income: $ 315,206
2017 Joe Biden’s Income: $11,031,309
2018 Joe Biden’s Income:$ 4,580,437
That was quite the raise he got in 2017. Remember the FBI informant claimed that Joe received a $Multimillion bribe.
Eric, that big bump in income in 2017 is explainable: it’s from a book Joe plagiarized and claimed he wrote himself. Satisfied?
Joe was able to get away with that lie by saying it reflected the proceeds from that book that the entire world bought. Should have been easy to fact check that but of course no one had the slighest inclination.