Below is my (slightly updated) column in the New York Post on three myths being widely repeated in the Biden impeachment inquiry. These false narratives have been eagerly repeated in the media despite lacking legal or factual support. In the interest of interjecting a modicum of reality into this debate, here is why these defenses are illusory.
Here is the column:
With the formal approval of the impeachment inquiry into the conduct of President Joe Biden, the alarm and denial in Washington has reached an almost hysterical level.
Despite overwhelming evidence of a corrupt Biden family influence-peddling operation worth millions of dollars, not a single Democratic member voted for an inquiry into the allegations.
Nearly 70% of voters (and 40% of Democrats) believe Biden has acted unlawfully or unethically or both.
Yet every Democrat voted to stop any further inquiry.
Even in our blindly partisan times, that is no easy rationalization.
That’s why members are repeating three myths like a mantra on the Hill.
They’ll likely continue as the House moves to compel testimony of key parties.
When I testified at the first Biden impeachment inquiry hearing months ago, I said the threshold for an inquiry was obviously satisfied by the evidence of these massive payments and the contradictions of the president’s past claims.
Indeed, at least four articles of impeachment could be established if the House confirms critical facts.
That is the point of an inquiry: to compel not impeachment but answers. That’s why I encouraged the House to hold this formal vote.
Three myths, however, will have to be set aside.
Joe Biden did not benefit from the influence peddling
After years of suppressing this scandal, the media and even some Democrats now admit Hunter Biden and his uncles have long been involved in influence peddling.
The United States has led global efforts to criminalize and deter this common form of corruption for years.
Recent testimony from Biden associates confirmed they were selling “the Biden Brand” and Joe Biden regularly called into meetings and met with business associates.
The last line of defense has been to argue that while millions may have been sent to Biden family members in raw influence peddling, there is no evidence Joe actually benefited from the money as opposed to his children, brothers and grandchildren.
This false narrative is being repeated despite the fact courts have rejected this claim in actual criminal cases.
Not only have payments to children and other family members been viewed as benefits to a defendant, but the same is true in impeachments.
I served as lead counsel in the last judicial impeachment tried before the Senate.
My client, Judge G. Thomas Porteous, had been impeached by the House for, among other things, benefits received by his children, including gifts related to a wedding.
It’s about Hunter Biden’s addictions, not actions
Democrats are again insisting that a complex, multimillion-dollar influence-peddling operation was simply the product of Hunter being a blacked-out drug addict for years.
The argument obviously cuts both ways.
Even if Hunter was some addict thinking only about his next fix, it only highlights that these foreign figures were giving millions for access to his father, not the advice or expertise of his son.
But Hunter’s own counsel has undermined this claim by arguing in Hunter’s gun case that he had emerged from his addiction just in time to sign the allegedly false gun form.
Much of the misconduct occurred when Hunter was, by his own lawyers’ account, suddenly clear-headed and responsible.
The evidence belies claims that Hunter was not responsible for these transactions or the underlying influence peddling.
It shows a knowing, organized effort with the involvement of his uncles and, in some cases, his father.
The effort to portray Hunter as some purse-snatching junkie does not fit the evidence as he flies around the world to meet with corrupt figures and secure millions.
It’s all about Hunter’s truck
The latest myth is particularly maddening.
The House Oversight Committee released new evidence showing payments to the president out of Hunter’s business accounts.
The committee used the payments to show these business accounts were being used for personal payments and there was an intermingling of funds.
Democrats and the media immediately latched onto payments where Hunter was allegedly paying back loans to help pay for his truck.
Members told the Ways and Means Committee this was merely “a father’s love” and not anything impeachable.
It’s a cynical effort to focus on a few thousand dollars while ignoring the millions the committees detailed in months of investigation.
Democratic members make it sound like the impeachment inquiry is based on a couple alleged truck payments. It is not.
The truck payments are a handful among dozens of transfers found from these accounts to Hunter or his family members.
The point is the proceeds of influence peddling may have been used to pay back the president, who was supporting his family members.
Dollars are fungible. The money in these accounts were intermingled with personal expenses, including payments to Hunter’s father.
Once again, President Biden would be viewed as benefiting from the millions of dollars going to his family even without direct payments.
The question is his knowledge and involvement — not those benefits.
That not a single Democrat is demanding answers about this corruption is disappointing but hardly surprising.
But Biden is now facing an impeachment inquiry that will finally demand answers, not myths, on the Biden family’s influence-peddling operation.
Jonathan Turley is an attorney and professor at George Washington University Law School.
WHY NOT GIVE THEM 690 quadrillion?
In other news, Hunter was told today that if he was convicted, he faces up to 17years. He turned to his attorney Lowell, winked and said “17 years? The last time I heard that it was followed by “and, her tits are real””
In other news, a teenager has been honored for creating an app for marking restrooms for public use called “I Pooped There”.
President Biden was overheard asking “Who needs that when you have pants?”
Ouch. When you are old I hope you will be wearing reliable diapers.
I hear that less experimenting with household items will help with maintaining continence later in life.
And you thought showering with children was his only guilty pleasure…
The democrats in congress are an embarrassment to humanity! Disgusting, dishonest, no integrity.
John Say
If I may ask, from which of the several sovereign states do you hail?
I come from the place that Jerry Fallwell refered to as the Buckle on the Bible Belt. A state that those few p[undits that thinkl 2024 will be close are identifying is the most pivotal swing state.
I hail from PencilTucky. For about 1/2 of my life I lived a litte more than a mile from Martin Meylins gun shop – where the Pennsylvania Rifle was likely created.
In other legal news, a jury awarded Shaye Moss and Ruby Freeman ~148M for emotional distress + punitive damages in their defamation suit against Rudy Giuliani. Their lives were threatened, they had to move to protect themselves, …
Giuliani refused to turn over discovery documents and chose not to testify, allowing an adverse inference in this civil case. L. Luppen: “If I had my druthers Giuliani coverage would be more interested in why it might have been worth it to him to risk a massive verdict to hide from his discovery obligations.”
Another nairobi gets rich off of tort. American success story.
You have no answer to why it might have been worth it to Giuliani to risk that massive verdict in order to hide from his discovery obligations and refuse to be questioned under oath. All you have is racist drivel.
Why would i, or anyone else care?
Maybe $148M aint jack to him. maybe he cant or doesnt intend to pay it. When rudy runs for public office again, i’ll care.
Why would hunter Biden risk going to jail to avoid comers spin?
Fyi it wasnt racist, it was bigoted. Learn the difference fool
No surprise that you don’t care that he put people’s lives at risk with his lies. Only people who are psychologically healthy care about things like that.
Your comment was both racist AND bigoted. It need not be either-or; it can be both-and, which yours was. In fact, anything that’s racist is bigoted, as the former is a subset of the latter.
Baaaaaaaaaa—- wrong. Thanks for playjng
Put peoples lives at risk oooooh. U mean like doxing?
Feigned outrage dont play here fool, even with the accompanying shaming.
Shame shame shame
“No surprise that you don’t care that he put people’s lives at risk with his lies…”
I know! Two cousins from out of state got 5 bucks apiece for calling them collect and threatening them if they can’t use their new pool in Hawaii.
Yea and jussie smollet was almost lynched. Same with the black nascar driver.
As Chicago police started to investigate the attack, Smollett’s story fell apart.
Go to Chicago and see what happens to your average law abiding, unarmed individual with a purse and the wrong color.
There is a massive amount of shady crap that took place in atlanta in 2020.
When that is actually investigated and it has been established that these two are NOT part of that we can talk.
Further I do not recall Guilliani identifying either by name.
Further When the actual rule of law is followed court and court related procedings ate immune from defamation claims.
And Finally – we have an Atlanta case being decided by a DC Jury ? Aren’t the people of atlanta corrupt enough to reliably ignore the truth ?
The two in question were participating in an election – they are essentially limited purpose public figures and they are not entitled to sue Guilliani any more than Sullivan was entitled to Sue NY Times and Martin Luther King.
And NO You are not culpable for someone else’s fear for their lives. If the TWO had actually been murdered as a result of something said by Guilliani – He STILL could not be sued for that.
Left wing nuts put other peoples lives at risk so many times in so many ways. There is no cause of action for this.
This is a stupid case and a stupid decision – the Supreme court has actually ruled on a closely related issue within the past few years.
Even if Guliani had PERSONALLY threatened these people – the threat would have to be credible, and immediate to be actionable
Otherwise it is protected free speech.
I doubt Gulliani is worried.
The real question is why do we have to fight such dead bang loser cases often all the way to the supreme court because there are so many idiots trying to arbitrarily flush hundreds of years of law down the toilets.
And both the arbitrary and the precident are relevant. Republicans have properly lost numerous defamation cases – on very close to the same facts and claims.
The actual rule of law requires that justice is blind – not just to race or sex, or disability, or class, but also to politics and ideology.
When the venue of a case and the ideology of the defendants matter radically to the outcome – we have the rule of man not law.
The nation is in chaos today – even the left decries that.
But it is Chaos that the Left has created. Because that is what you get when you can not follow the law.
Giuliani is virtually broke. Upon appeal, his $148 million penalty will surely be reduced.
no question. i am emotionally distressed too. i live in a land drowning in meatheads. Give them a trillion
Well, you had to wait a bit to get your answer from an extremely patient John Say. Hope you enjoyed it. Rudy had one reason. Why bother. He knew he wouldnt get a fair shake AND its dead on appeal. If someone sued you for 150 million because the sky is blue, would you hire an attorney and show up, just because the court decided to hear the case?
Rudy will never pay a cent!! It’s one thing to win a case and get a financial award, it’s another thing to actually collect the money!!! Rudy won’t pay. I highly doubt he even has that kind of money.
Dont tell the pud’n head above. He wants us to tell him what rudy’s scared of.
He will pay up when OJ does! I think he will win his appeal against these two griters.
148 mil? Disgraceful. They should have gotten not a penny less than 298 billion! Threatened? By family members? Emotional distress? Imagine the horror!
My wife threatens to leave me every other day! Time to file a lawsuit.
And you expect that decision to be upheld for more than 3 seconds ?
What exactly it is that you think is worth 148M with respect to claims that are likely true against people who suffered no real harm.
I can name specific instances in which publicly exposed conservatives have been killed or beaten up.
Can you name any instance in which a left wing nut who has been exposed has suffered actual harm ?
I would further note, that the court usually – and the apelate courts absolutely do not like claims of third party harm – especially speculative third party harm.
Guilliani can be held responsible for actually defaming someone – if he did actually defame them.
He can not be held responsible for the actual acts of third parties that he did not actually direct.
And when you can not be held accountable for the actual acts of third parties you certainly can not be held accountable for others fear of things that have not happened.
That left wing nuts wish to shill for this nonsense is stupid.
Turn about is fair play.
Can the border patrol Officers who Joe Biden lied about publicly sue Biden for a Billion Dollars for emotional distress ?
I am absolutely certain that they have had many death threats. And death threats by those on the left are far more credible.
Left wing nuts do actually attack people, when they are not cowering in fear that they will be attacked by mythical white supremecists.
Steaming turd vvvvvv
This site now resembles a nursery school patter in its comment section. Time for a paywall.
Agreed. Of course, “Anonymous” screen name will NOT be allowed.
Congressional Republicans Hand Putin The Christmas Gift Of His Dreams
By Thursday, as the House headed out of town and the Senate, despite ongoing talks, seemed far from a deal, Putin was ready to collect his present. “There will be peace when we achieve our goals,” he said at his annual press conference, a four-hour extravaganza of anti-Ukraine propaganda and bluster. “Victory will be ours.”
Putin’s stated goals, it should be noted, remain what they were when he invaded—the evisceration of Ukraine as an independent state. He also seemed well aware of what was happening on Capitol Hill. “Ukraine produces almost nothing today—everything is coming from the West,” he said. “But the free stuff is going to run out someday, and it seems it already is.” Conventional wisdom has held that Putin would push to keep his war going until at least next November, given the increasingly real prospect of victory by the Putin-admiring, Ukraine-skeptic Donald Trump. Instead, the unravelling is happening faster than anyone anticipated. If Putin’s strategy has been to wait out the West until its commitment to Ukraine wavers, the week’s events in Washington suggest that it is working—and is even, quite possibly, ahead of schedule.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-bidens-washington/a-congressional-christmas-gift-to-putin
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This week House Republicans were determined to humiliate Biden in front of the world. They not only voted for an Impeachment Inquiry, but they also cut-off Ukraine; a cornerstone of Biden’s foreign policy.
Coincidentally these two gestures were totally encouraged by Putin’s water boy, Donald Trump. And Johnathan Turley becomes Trump’s water boy by failing to note the connection.
Steaming turd^^^^
The new yorker lmao
This sh!t gets funnier every day
Teen vogue rules!!!
While it is impossible to prove what would happen in alternate versions of reality.
The vast majority of people – including a surprising number of young left wing nuts have concluded that much of the war, the violence, the chaos, the inflation the disaster that are being experienced in the US and the world today would not have occured had Trump been elected in 2020.
Russia would not have invaded Ukraine. Putin made it clear that he would not tolerate talk of Nato expansion to countries adjacent to Russia.
Every single time prior such discussions have occured – Putin has invaded a neighbor.
You can be angry about that, you can claim Putin’s actions are not legitimate. That he can not invade a soverign country because of discussions that they might join Nato.
But then you would have to consider that the US invaded Iraq because of their hypothetical nuclear weapons might have been a threat.
The US invaded Panama because their leader was a drug lord.
The US brought the world to the brink of nuclear war Because Cuba – another soverign nation. Had warsaw pact weapons.
Putin is a thug and I hope the Ukrainians defeat him. But the odds of that were NEVER good – with or without US help.
You can rant because Putin is open to a peace deal. NEalry everyone is open to a peace deal. And there very nearly was a peace deal almost 2 years ago, and this entire war – as well as the 2014 invasion of Crimea, could have been avoided if Democrats and neocons quite trying to align the entirety of the former Warsaw pact against Russia and into NATO.
Russian is a dying superpower. The Ukraine war did expose exactly how weak they are. Russia can not defeat almost any two neighboring countries – much less all of NATO.
Don’t poke the bear – it is mostly harmless if you leave it alone. But dying animals are very dangerous if provoked.
Trump understood that – you idiots on the left do not.
Nor is Ukraine the only failure that would have been avoided with Trump rather than Biden.
It is highly unlikely we would have this war with Israel. Once again left wing nuts fawned over Iran – a nation infamous for exporting terrorism.
Pissed off allies accross the region – including the Saudis and israelis, and emboldened Hamas.
Biden has made the world chaotic and the US look weak – and across the world people are taking advantage of that.
We heard nonsense from idiots like you and General Miley that Trump was looking to start a war with China – yet discussions of China attacking Taiwan were muted during the Trump administration. Today the prospect of direct conflict between the US and China – two nuclear powers is very real.
We live in increasing fear of war and violence at home and abroad because Biden is weak and because the politics of the left is chaotic and destructive.
There are despots and fighting all ove rthe world right now.
Is the US obligated to interveine in every global conflict.
China and the Philipines are in conflicts that could lead to war – must the US jump in ?
Every fight in the world is not our fight.
Why are those of you on the left so up in arms over Ukraine ?
Would that be because it is a nation of pasty white people ?
But defending Israel which is actually in US interests that is not something you give a schiff about ?
What about Yemen ? Or Nigeria ? or Deteriorating conditions in South africa ?
Or is it just Putin you are whigged out about.
I am certain that for most on the left it is only because they are good little marxist followers, and beginning with Hillary, they’ve been taught to say “Putin”
Impeachment Inquiry:
HOW THE HEADLINES AND SUB-HEADLINES LOOKED
House Approves Biden Impeachment Inquiry as G.O.P. Hunts for an Offense
New York Times
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Biden impeachment inquiry authorized by House Republicans, despite lack of evidence
Reuters
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No evidence but US Republicans approve Biden impeachment inquiry
AlJeezera
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US House of Representatives votes to approve impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden
Republicans seek evidence linking president to son’s business dealings
Financial Times
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House Republicans eye Wednesday vote to approve impeachment inquiry into Biden
The vote would give the GOP added powers in its ongoing investigation into Joe Biden and his family, which has so far failed to find evidence of wrongdoing by the president.
NBC
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It is curious that so many news sources felt compelled to note the lack of hard evidence.
Dennis Mcinlyre aka Mr Alpha Bank
Please state for the record it you still believe the pee tape exists
Trump acts like the pee tape exists. Why else he is he a stooge for Putin?
Its pootin’ as in another steaming turd dropped by a left who dreams about Vlad every night.
Your post demonstrates the cluelessness and bias of the media.
A gigantic YAWN.
In fairness john, i believe that was his point.
Jonathan: And now the so-called “Three Myths” of the Dems defense of Hunter Biden. You start by claiming there is “overwhelming evidence of a corrupt Biden influence-peddling operation worth millions of dollars…”. It’s a lament we have heard for nearly a year. But in all your columns you have not pointed to one “crime” Joe Biden has committed. The repayments for the truck purchase don’t qualify.
When you testified back in September at Comer’s first public hearing you admitted you had seen no evidence Pres. Biden had committed “high crimes and misdemeanors”–but you welcomed Comer’s investigation. Has Comer produced any evidence since then to satisfy the Constitution’s high bar for impeachment? Any evidence that Joe Biden, as VP or now as President, was directly involved in Hunter’s business activities or financial benefited from them? Nope.
Whatever crimes Hunter may have committed he will be held accountable. His alcohol and drug addiction are no excuse. That is what the Dems on Comer’s Committee have consistently said. But whatever Hunter made from his business dealing in Ukraine or China that had nothing to do with his dad. But you make the bizarre claim that “President Biden would be viewed as benefitting from the millions of dollars going to his family without direct payments”. But isn’t that the point? Without “direct payments”, i.e., “bribes”, that Biden directly profited from his son’s business dealings, there is no evidence to implicate Joe Biden. With no evidence of “direct payments” you have no corruption.
For months Comer has had thousands of records provided by Joe Biden–bank statements, emails, etc. Comer has all the records from the laptop. If Comer thought he had a “smoking gun” in the form of a bank statement or other record that implicated Joe Biden in his son’s business dealings, or received any direct financial benefit, don’t you think Comer would have waived it around at a press conference by now?
After 11 months of investigation Comer has come up empty handed in trying to prove what you call a vast “influence peddling operation” by the Biden family. You and Comer have engaged in months of endless accusations, innuendo, insinuation and guilt by association. It reminds me of the tactics used by Joe McCarthy–and we know how that ended.
But all this plays well with the MAGA crow, right-wing media and for some on this blog. And you will not give up this McCarthy-like witch hunt. I pays too well!
Saving this steaming turd for the future. Dennis’ nose gonna look good in this one.
What Turley posted
“overwhelming evidence of a corrupt Biden influence-peddling operation worth millions of dollars…”.
The lie Dennis tells
” But in all your columns you have not pointed to one “crime” Joe Biden has committed.”
See for yourself retard, According to the quote you provide, you puke up a big lie
I always stop reading when I spot you lying. This was early on, so I’m sure the rest of your puked up stuff is just as full of lies.
“don’t you think Comer would have waived it around at a press conference by now?”
Only if we assume he is as small minded as you, you little twerp. Thats probably what you would do. Who do you think told Comer there was a phone call from Dubai? You are about as bright as AOC.
Your nose…this turd.
By the way, turd slinger, the proper spelling based on context is “waved” it around, not “waived” it around.
You know, that kind of error must get you swiped left a lot on your Grindr account. You do it frequently here.
I have followed this story for over four years, gathering data from many sources. There are mountains of reasons that this should have been thoroughly investigated by our DOJ, FBI, etc. The scandal is how these federal agencies and the news media conspire (d) in the cover up. If they did their job, this would have been hashed out years ago.
If there is nothing to hide, they would joyfully provided every shred of evidence and all parties concerned would cooperate in every way so that they and the world can move on; they can’t and they won’t.
There are none so blind those as those who will not see.
Ray Stevens!!!
Excellent perspective. The Democrats seem to find the impeachment inquiry unnecessary. Perhaps it would have been unnecessary if the DOJ and FBI had pursued these issues. Think for a moment about how taxpayer dollars have been squandered both by the federal government and New York State in an effort to pursue their creative legal theories in an effort to convict former President Donald Trump.
The causes of the failure of the DOJ/FBI to investigate is ALSO a very legtitimate subject for the impeachment inquiry.
Those on the left falsely claim there is not evidence. There is more than enough to prove the Ukraine bribery count.
Is every other claim proveable beyond a reasonable doubt – probably not, but in a criminal trial it would all get in and the strength of one claim is enoguh to result in conviction on all claims.
At this time there is no proof – and no direct evidence of obstriction of justice by Joe Biden at DOJ/FBI/IRS.
But there is an extremely damning circumstantial case.
And further inquiry could turn that into proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
I have little respect fot he FBI and DOJ and even the IRS
But there is absolutely no rational explanation for the bad handling of all these investigations
and we are far past incompetence and well into obstruction.
Dennis McIntyre
Really ?
You can pretend that every single element of a crime has not been proven if you wish – but there is plenty of evidence of crimes.
Bribery and soliciting bribes is a crime.
Both James and Hunter Biden as well as their chronies promised their clients that for sufficient money they could leverage the power of the US govenrment to deliver their requests.
That is CLEAR bribery and solicitation to bribery.
You can claim if you wish that Hunter, James and company were LYING to their clients. You can claim they were committing fraud as well.
But you can not claim that what they were offering in return for money was legal.
Turley and some have fixated on the failure of DOJ to prosecute FARA violations – because that implicates Joe.
But the FARA violations are low hanging fruit. None of the Biden Family complied with the requirements of FARA.
Not even if their actions were otherwise legal.
That said I think FARA is unconstitutional. But that does not change the fact that the conduct it attempts to constrain is corrupt and illegal.
Hunter James and family were not being paid merely for lobbying.
They were paid for the promise of DELIVERING the power of the US government to accomplish the goals of their clients.
Try being honest with yourself.
If I offer to arrange a murder for you in return for money. I am guilty of conspiracy to commit murder.
I am guilty even if no murder is ever committed, no hitman is ever hired.
The Biden family is INARGUABLY guilty of conspiracy to public corruption and bribery.
The only not proven beyond any doubt at all element is did they DELIVER. That is the part that implicates Joe Biden.
There is ZERO doubt that Joe Biden was involved in their business dealings – that ALONE makes him guilty of the conspiracy to commit public corruption.
Rod Blogovitch was convicted of trying to sell Obama’s senate seat. Blogovitch did not actually sell that Senate seat. He was caught before he could do so. the Crime of public corruption does Not require completion.
Whether you like it or not – we are way beyond “was there a crime”. We are also way beyond was Joe involved.
At this time we are investigating the scale and scope of the crime.
The slightly open questions are not are the Biden’s – including Joe guilty of corruptly selling public office.
Nor are they was Joe involved. We are well past those.
The outstanding (slightly) issue is DID THEY DELIVER ? and How Much did Joe Personally Benefit.
There are also lots of niggling “little” crimes like tax evasion that are commonplace with all criminal enterprises.
Hunter has massive tax problems because his businesses have no legitimate deliverable and therefore no legitimate expenses.
While Businesses generally can not expense hookers and drugs. Some of Hunter’s egregious lifestyle would be a legitimate business expense – if Hunter was in a legitimate business. Like AL Capone Hunter’s tax problems stem from more than negligently failing to pay taxes.
They are rooted in the fact that it is difficult to impossible to pay taxes on criminal profits without essentially confessing to a crime.
With respect to “did they deliver” – a wide variety fo foreign sources do not pay millions of dollars over many years with nothing in return.
The lawyer who paid Hunter’s tax bill – will get something in return.
Those who bought Hunter’s art will get something in return – and not likely Hunter’s art.
Burisma got something in return for the millions they gave to Hunter. And they were explicit about what they wanted in return.
They wanted the investigation ended, they wanted Shokin fired.
You and the left have reveled in the past in the claim that Shokin was corrupt.
But there is a problem – there is no evidence that he was. Unlike the Biden’s there are not millions – or even hundreds of unexplained dollars flowing to him. There are not multiple opulent Dachas on the Black Sea. Shokin is quietly retired on a public servants pension and no more.
The fraudulent claims that Shokin was corrupt – claims originated with Sorros affiliated NGO’s and with Biden managed FBI task forces are part of the deliverables to Burisma. Paint the prosecutor as a crook, and then you can more convincingly leverage public office to get him fired.
Regardless – Shokin WAS fired – PROOF of delivery. One example of completed bribery involving Joe.
The next issue is Was Joe Paid. It is beyond desputew that Hunters and Joes finances were intermingled. It is also beyond despute that Hunters Business finances and his and the rest of his families personal finances were intermingled. That alone is sufficient proof of personal benefit.
But it gets worse – there is now nearly 400,000 in “loan repyments” going to Joe Biden.
Pretty expensive Truck. I am not aware that Hunter bought a fleet of Semis with money borrowed from Joe.
Is there a james and hunter Trucking in the dozens of shell companies ?
Regardless the “loan repayments” were made from shell companies. More intermingling of business and personal funds.
Intermingling business and personal funds is NOT illegal. But there is a huge risk of tax evasion in doing so, and generally the IRS wins when you do so. Liona Helmsley went to jail for complications arrising from intermingling personal and business funds.
Put simply if this were Joe the plumber at one end or Liona Helmsley at the other – the Bidens would have been jailed and be released by now.
The Bidens’ are getting different treatment than others – whether ordinary people – or high profile people like Martha Stewart or Liona Helmsley.
The Stewart case is especially instructive. Martha Stewart was NOT convicted of insider Trading. She did absolutely nothing wrong.
She was convicted of conspiring to commit insider trading.
Regardless, money has found its way into Joe’s pockets. And as the inquiry expands more and more will be found, the evidence will grow,
There is a reason that Turley has pretty much flipped on this.
Because The biden clan – led by Joe are criminally corrupt.
The outstanding question is whether they LIED to many of those they were soliciting bribes from, or whether they actually delivered.
John
Again you have explained it in very clear terms. Here is my issue: the response from Dennis and crew is simply “comer has no evidence”. This is why i call out these people in no uncertain terms. Instead of trying to explain why two businessmen could possibly be discussing the cut for “the big guy” they just cry “thats not evidence”. Instead of explaining why someone would have 20 shell companies and pay granddaughters thru them, they just say, “thats not illegal”. Its futile. And evidence that these arent really people, as we understand the term.
Tom, Kudos for you long list of assorted lies that various left wing nuts here have been caught in.
It is excellent.
Just as you are not ignoring Dennis, Svelaz, Gigi, etc.
Neither am I. But my approach is different and frankly despite replying to them – they are not my audience.
I honestly wish their posts were HIGHER quality – I want the best of the arguments of the left.
That is how we test truth – in the crucible of public debate.
I make my arguments. I assess the quality of my arguments, whether I have missed something important by their replies.
When the response is ad hominem – I trust that my arguments are good, that they have survived the test.
Nothing is going to persuade Gigi or Dennis, or Svelaz, but they are usefull idiots.
They repeat the stupid arguments of the left, They set them up for Turley, you, me and others here to knock down and eviscerate.
Often it is not that your or my arguments are so good that matters – but how badly their collapse.
Most people do not understand the legal nuances that get debated here.
But ordinary people – especially when they get to see the cost are remarkably good at weighing things.
Ordinary people understand that powerful people do not give millions of dollars to drug addicts for advice on corporate governance.
Ordinary people understand that whether the 2020 election was proveably fraudulent – it still was a revolting pile of Dog schiff that theis country should be embarrased by, and that challenging it was not a crime.
Had Democrats allowed inquiry into the election at the time, it is likely that Biden’s win would have survived.
Some of the fraud claims were weak – that is OK. You are not require to prove an allegation beyond a reasonable doubt to make it.
The Claims against DVS have NOT been fully litigated. But the recounts in Windham, Atrim and maricoppa counties make it highly unlikely that DVS was engaged in an actual fraudulent conspiracy to throw the election to Biden.
Though at the same time those inquiries reveal how absymally bad the equipment is.
Since the debacle in 2000 I have been a firm advocate of election integrity.
We can conduct trustworthy elections with terminals and scanners, but it is much harder. Creati9ng trust in black boxes is hard – generally harder than the benefits they provide.
It is not a complex problem to design a secure election system that is both quick, trustworthy and MANUAL – no machines at all.
With everything being done transparently in the open – no black boxes.
Both democrats and republicans have fought against that.
Regardless, ordinary people have a great deal of experience with dubious results.
Sports fans fight over the calls of referees. Very very very rarely does that change anything.
Sometimes we call those ranting about bad calls poor sports. We do not call them criminals.
Most of us understand that tomorow we could be the ones suspicious of the results.
“they are not my audience.”
John, that is what some need to recognize.
“They repeat the stupid arguments of the left, They set them up for Turley, you, me and others here to knock down and eviscerate.”
Knocking them down is a lesson to others, not them. The harder the knock, the greater the fall.
Some have complained about the “bickering”. I understand it can be tedious at times. Believe it or not, this is me in restrained mode. I grew up with 6 brothers, so bickering comes quite easy to me. The reason I suffer through it is because of the tactics they use. They slither around, insulting, backpedaling, sidestepping, gaslighting, and obfuscating once they’re had, but refusing to admit they are wrong. Gigi’s favorite is to blame it on her source. Yet she keeps using the same sources and deriding sources used by others with no context or substantiation.
Eventually, in almost every case, they reach the end of their little tunnel. I happen to have the patience to chase them all the way there. When I do, the response of the bug is, “well, you’re just a know-it-all poopy head”. And then they move on to the next lie or even in some cases to repeat the lie. How many times have we read Svelaz, Gigi, or even the brilliant legal scholar ATS claim that “its not evidence if its not illegal”?
Bug boy has accused me of being close minded and indoctrinated. I grew up in a Southern Baptist Church. I was baptized at 12 years old. Yet for decades I have been an agnostic who takes serious issue with the basic premise of Christianity. I was a social conservative well into my 30’s, yet I was onboard with gay marriage a decade before Obama, Clinton, and Biden. I currently date a young liberal, we have calm, rational discussion about the issues of the day almost daily. My last long term relationship was also with a young liberal whom I would describe as fanatically woke. We had lively discussions followed by great sex lol. My stances on certain subjects moderate constantly.
Most of my politics would be best described as libertarian, or what I call live and let live. I don’t let my Party give me my opinion like the lefties here and elsewhere do. Like John, I did not vote for Trump in either election, but I lived in a very red state. I have since moved my “permanent residence” to my home in a neighboring swing state, and I will be voting for Trump this time, convict or not.
Tom, our feelings toward the leftists on this blog are the same. In the past, I had long discussions with ATS and Svelaz. In fact, I gave ATS his name, Anonymous the Stupid, in order to separate him from the pack. He was too much of a coward to stand by one name and have to protect what he had placed in writing. Someone else shortened it to ATS, which was great. He did all sorts of nasty stuff meant to goad and incite those he disagreed with. Today, he is more laid back, and Bug takes over with a different type of nastiness that is seen in the worst sh!tholes.
I am glad you are showing the world what Sh!ts these leftists are. We all know they are too stupid to change.
The use of shell. LLCs to launder money will become more difficult when the Corporate Transparency Act goes into effect in January.
There is a giant gulf between the Bidens are criminals, and lets expand stupid laws.
All a corporation is, is more than one person acting in concert usually in the economy.
I have serious problems with nearly all government regulation of business and finance.
Selling drugs or sex should not be illegal. Money laundering laws exist primarily to prevent people from conducting legitimate if unapealing business.
Bribery is NOT ever legitimate but unappealing.
the BIGGER Crime…the DOJ, FBI, IRS, etc are 100% corrupt for DEMOCRATS
People NEED TO BE JAILED
the Rule of Law is Dead in America
BTW Jail EVERY PERSON involved in the Russian Hoax….COmey, Clapper, Brennan, Democrats in Congress, McCabe, Strzok, Page, etc
The Mango doesn’t fall far from the Tree.
Hunter is an idiot like his Dad.
Potatoes don’t grow on trees…
Did the Biden Crime Family coordinate the receipt of payments from CEFC to coincide with Joe Biden no longer being in office? 🤔 It certainly looks that way.
“The work conducted by CEFC, GILLIAR, WALKER, HUNTER BIDEN, JAMES BIDEN and YE over the preceding two years was discussed in detail at the Miami meeting,” the FBI quoted Bobulinski as saying. “In particular, CEFC was closing significant investment deals in Poland, Kazakhstan, Romania, Oman, and the Middle East during this period of time. CEFC had used its relationship with HUNTER BIDEN and JAMES BIDEN – and the influence attached to the BIDEN name – to advance CEFC’s interests abroad.”
“HUNTER BIDEN and JAMES BIDEN did not receive any monetary compensation for their assistance in these projects,” the FBI interview report added. “HUNTER BIDEN and JAMES BIDEN did not receive any compensation because JOSEPH BIDEN was still VPOTUS during this time period. There was a concern it would be improper for payments to be made to HUNTER BIDEN and JAMES BIDEN by CEFC due to its close affiliation with the Chinese government. HUNTER BIDEN and JAMES BIDEN both wanted to be compensated for the assistance they had provided to CEFC’s ventures; in particular, they believed CEFC owed them money for the benefits that accrued to CEFC through its use of the BIDEN family name to advance their business dealings.”
https://justthenews.com/accountability/political-ethics/impeachment-inquiry-zeroes-origins-china-deal-while-joe-biden-was
Yes Olly. And that’s checks out with Hunter demanding his and the big guy’s share when he threatened the Chinese to honor the deal and pay up or his dad, who was next to him, would shake dat tree.
Reported that the AUSA who is said to have delayed the Bidens investigation has left the DOJ.
https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2023/12/15/heres-what-happened-to-the-doj-official-who-tried-to-protect-hunter-biden-n4924771
I ask again at what point does prosecutorial discretion become punishable obstruction of justice?
Meanwhile in Canada a 50-year-old man, who says he feels like he’s a 13-year-old girl, was allowed in a fit of wokeness to compete against teenage girls and use their locker room, while the poor teenage girls had no escape from his male genitalia while they showered. This is what leftism promotes: pervs.
Then when rebel news sought to get the story, the woke community center staff were enraged and called the cops . . . on the journos instead of on the creepy perv male invading teenage girls’ private spaces.
https://www.rebelnews.com/_trans_woman_nicholas_cepeda_trains_and_showers_with_teen_girls_community_centre_calls_cops_on_us_instead
“Meanwhile in Canada a 50-year-old man, who says he feels like he’s a 13-year-old girl, was allowed in a fit of wokeness to compete against teenage girls and use their locker room”
Oldman, I note the lack of comments on this bit of news. Some of the leftists on this site are considered perverts, so I am not asking them, but I am asking the others, do you think this should be permitted, and against the law?
Of course you know the answer to this. The lefty’s wont reply because it harkens to the utter stupidity of their arguments. Dont fool yourself, many of them dont buy this nonsense of a man becoming a woman. They just go along because thats whats required of a woke marxist.
Look at the very core of it. TRANSgender. If you are a woman, and the birthing doctor got it wrong, what the f*ck is there to “transition”? Why do you have to “transition”? Keep that goddam penis and display it proudly! Thats not what makes you a man. We are cutting off penises because society demands it??? They cant even keep their own ideology straight. What a joke we’ve become.
Tom When conservatives are attacked on moral issues, they respond, but leftists can’t even say it’s wrong for a 60y/o man to expose his genitals to 13-year-old girls in a public shower for girls. They can’t say yes or no, which means they have to follow their leaders. It tells us they are cowards.
When ATS, named or anonymous crew, asks about abortion, we should remember they cannot opine on this issue. That is disgusting.
There are 2 fundimental areas in which the libertarian ideology fails.
Those are the old and the young. Those that we do not treat as fully free to make their choices regarding their lives on their own.
I have raised children, and I have dealt with parents whose capacity was diminishing. The latter is the hardest.
Children start out needing your total protection and gradually need less and less until they need none.
Trying to determine when to let go is easier than trying to determine when to limit the autonomy of another person.
I do not have all the answers as to how to deal with that portion of the population who temporarily or permanently can not fully take care of themselves.
That said 50 year old men identifying as teenage girls do not belong anywhere near teenage girls – much less in their lockers.
I do not understand pedophilia. I do not knopw if it is a genetic disorder, a mental health disorder. I do nto know if it is an uncontrolable impulse, an affliction that we should take pity on those who have it.
But I do know that we are obligated to protect our children from adults who would sexualize them.
John, the question I have is why our leftist bloggers, who have so much to say about everything, can’t comment on this incident. It shows them to be less than men and women.
This type of problem is what makes it seem society has gone insane. Even evidence dangling in plain view does not change opinions
Jonathan:
I will title this one:
Recognizes Correct Answer When Told
During the course of training, qualification and certification of Nuclear Reactor Operators, three types of examination are use. Written exams, oral boards, and practical evaluations. In these trials and evaluations, there are no multiple choice, true false, or yes/no answers. Essays are required, demonstrating a fundamental yet detailed understanding of the subjects, and not just rote memorization of data. This was one of the governing principals introduced by Admiral Rickover. He understood the danger of automatons, who merely recite what they hear or read. He wanted people who could reason and problem solve. He believed it was absolutely essential for safety, and credits that above all for the Navy’s impeccable record, through millions of
mW-Hours of operating nuclear reactors.
During an oral board, it was not uncommon for board members to “lead” or “guide” an examinee thru a difficult concept or problem. If the student had well developed reasoning skills, they could quickly find their way back on track, and continue to display their knowledge. We referred to this as RCAWT, or Recognizes Correct Answer When Told. Candidates were actually given some credit for these instances, because it required more than just recall. It meant they could use logic and prior learned concepts and apply those to arriving at the correct response.
Here on this blog, we witness daily, commenters who cannot RCAWT. Svelaz, Dennis, and bug guy come immediately to mind. The lefty lie list, promulgated by Tom, bares witness to this shortfall in reason. Even when led to, and sometimes even outright given, the correct answer, they go on to later repeat the same lie, distort the truth, use “rhetoric”, and cite unreliable sources. If memory serves, each item on the lefty lie list was not just a one time, random misspeak on the part of the examinees. They actually argued, conflated, backpedaled, defended, gaslit each lie. We suffered through an entire day of the bug guy trying to defend the lie that CPI was 7.6% when Trump left office, despite being given the correct answer, right from the source. We watched in abject horror, as Svelaz tried for hours to somehow defend his statement that Archer testified that he had *no idea* what was discussed on the Dubai phone call. We’ve seen Dennis continue to claim that the pee tape is real and that AR-15’s “ruin the meat”.
When operating, maintaining, and repairing a nuclear reactor, someone without the ability to recognize the correct answer when told is dangerous. They are quickly weeded out. Here, the consequences are not severe, and the prospect less frightening.
Instead its just sad and pathetic.
In honor of our wonderful President, who paraded naked around the pool at the Naval Observatory, in front of female Secret Service agents, from the singer who brought us The Streak
There is none so blind
As he who will not see
We must not close up minds
We must let our thoughts be free
I’ll give you this, f$%kwit…, through sheer leisure time, obnoxiousness and closed mindedness you will succeed in shutting down Turley’s blog. To be honest, the place probably needs that. Totally following how the Russians crash Facebook and twit x.
Nice work.
Eb
The sky is falling!!!!! —-Elvis bug aka The Lawn Boy
What say, should I add it to the Wall of Shame?
You still sober at this hour, Lawn Boy?
Everyone here knows you for the obnoxious a$$hat that you are, and the lefty lie list shows who is close minded. Yet never once have I whined about it the way you always seem to end up whining about me. Poor baby I am ruining his site. You have stated before that you don’t give a good goddam about this site or anyone on it, and especially what they think of you. You’ve declared more than once that you are proud to disrupt and insult. You continue to deny the sockpuppets you use, while constantly calling out others for the same thing. I’ve never once denied what I post under, because I’m not a liar and coward like you.
But you just can’t hide another of your lefty traits…the victim card. Have another sip.
So up in your head. Love it!!!
Liar and coward. Name your sockpuppets, pussy.
Turley claims: ” These false narratives have been eagerly repeated in the media despite lacking legal or factual support.” And then he claims: “Despite overwhelming evidence of a corrupt Biden family influence-peddling operation worth millions of dollars, not a single Democratic member voted for an inquiry into the allegations.” Where is the EVIDENCE, much less OVERWHELMING evidence that JOE Biden committed any crimes. WHAT influence was peddled? WHO paid for it? WHEN did it happen? And, Turley, have you changed your tune about “influence peddling” NOT being illegal, like you have repeatedly claimed over the years?
Turley, your hypocrisy has officially become laughable.
Steaming turd ^^^^^
You know the funniest thing is when these idiots come in and forget themselves and their purpose. Instead of just screaming “no evidence”, idiots like Gigi, ask “what evidence”. This invariably prompts someone to take the time to repost for the 1000th time, some or all of the evidence. So in the feeble attempt to dissuade, they actually encourage, abet and sustain the promulgation of the truth, reinforcing it for all.
You have NEVER provided any evidence that JOE Biden committed any crimes, and neither has James Comer or Johnson, McCarthy or any other Republican. In fact, all of what they call “evidence” proves that JOE Biden never had any involvement in any of Hunter’s business ventures. The phone calls between JOE and Hunter when Hunter was with business associates had NOTHING to do with Hunter’s business, and you know it.
You repeatedly claim I said this or that, despite failing to provide any proof. It’s no wonder, since you are a devotee of one of the most-notorious, chronic, habitual liars in history. And, you tune in to alt-right news to hear the same lies peddled over and over again–Mark Levin’s “Biden Crime Family” trope…the list goes on. Hunter Biden’s tax problems have nothing to do with JOE Biden. Hunter’s other legal woes also have nothing to do with JOE Biden. In fact, if JOE Biden was comparable to the pig you worship, he would have fired the special prosecutor and pardoned Hunter a long time ago, just like the pig you worship has done and promises to do vis-a-vis the J6 insurrectionists. The pig you worship would try to stack administrative agencies with people who would flaunt the law and ignore statutes and the Constitution in order to do his bidding. He PROMISED to do this.
So, where’s the proof that JOE Biden did anything wrong? Turley has been caught claiming JOE Biden’s involvement in Hunter’s business matters when he wasn’t even in office. So what to do when evidence proves you’re wrong, Ollie? Claim it was a “coordinated” bribery scheme to fall at a time when Biden wasn’t in office. Sheesh! the gullibility and devotion of people to a lying narcissistic, unpatriotic, misogynistic pig who trashed our economy caused people to die unnecessarily by lying about COVID, who alienated our allies, tried to pull the US out of NATO, and started a trade war with China. It defies understanding.
Another steaming turd from Gigi, aka Mrs Peetape
However, you did just earn another star on the Wall of Shame
Gigi….does not RCAWT
Gigi, for the record…can we count you among the 30% who still believe the economy is great, Joe Biden’s not a crook, Alpha Bank was not a hoax, and the pee tape is real?
A simple yes or no will do. No need for another of your screeching, blood curdling rants bereft of facts.
NUTCHACHACHA constitutes officialdom.
You betcha!
The proof is in the hysteria and incoherence from the “fake” people; those of artificial affirmative action status.
Oh, please, oh please, may I please be real in the real world of actuality???
Gigi, another member of the Dennis troll farm who thinks that Turley reads her steaming turds.
Does there need to be any further proof that they are delusional?
“CAR 54, WHERE ARE YOU?”
COME IN, SERGEANT AT ARMS, DARREN SMITH!
_____________________________________________________
Civility Rule
Civility and Decorum Policy:
This blog is committed to the principles of free speech and, as a consequence, we do not ban people simply because we disagree with them. Indeed, we value different perspectives and do not want to add another “echo chamber” to the Internet where we each repeat or amplify certain views. However, the Turley blog was created with a strong commitment to civility, a position that distinguishes us from many other sites.
…
– Professor Turley
Amen, bro.
Paywall!
Updated 14:09 Lefty Wall of Shame aka The Lefty Turd Farm
Dennis gets another star!
Hunter doesn’t have to testify because Comer changed his mind—Dennis aka Mr Alpha Bank
The quid has to be illegal for a quid pro quo to be illegal—-*Elvis bug aka The Lawn boy
If Joe’s quid results in Hunter’s quo, that’s not illegal—-*Elvis Bug aka The Lawn Boy
Inflation was on a rising trend from 2015 until Trump left office—-Elvis Bug aka The Lawn Boy
(1.3, 2.2, 2.5, 1.9, 1.3)
Comer said that the mere presence of shell companies is *proof* of a crime—-Svelass aka Mr. Peetape
Hunter Biden showed up for his hearing today—–Svelass aka Mr. Peetape
Hunter Biden agreed to testify to a public hearing—–Gigi the LIAR
(who did he agree with?)
The Consumer Price Index was indeed at 7.6% when Trump left office—–Elvis Bug aka The Lawn Boy (it was 1.4%)
Archer gave no details about the meeting at the Naval Observatory with Marc Holtzman—-Svelaz aka Mr Peetape
Archer had no idea what was on those phone calls. He admitted it under oath—Svelaz aka Mr Peetape
Evidence isnt permissible unless its incontrovertible—-ATS
Circumstantial evidence alone is not enough to convict——Svelaz aka Mr Peetape
Republicans are the only ones calling for violence these days—-Dennis
Democrats call for violence when the cause is right—-Dennis in the same post
Gas prices spiked because Texas uses crude oil to make electricity—-Gigi the LIAR
AR-15’s ruin the meat—-Dennis
The inflation rate was 8% when Trump left office—-Gigi the LIAR
(it was actually 1.4%)
Biden only released the strategic oil reserve once—-Svelass Mr Peetape
Archer never said it was Joe that was called from Dubai—-ATS
The State of Florida does property tax “appraisals”—-Svelass Mr Peetape
You can’t convict without incontrovertible proof—ATS
Trump was convicted of rape—Svelass Mr. Peetape
The Jefferson County school board has a supermajority of republicans—-lawn boy EB
Trumps attorney forgot to “check a box”——Dennis
An insult or name calling is not a personal attack—-Svelass Mr. Peetape
The DC NG answers only to the President—-Gigi the LIAR
Christianity teaches to treat your fellow man the same way you treat Jesus—-Svelass Mr Peetape
The ideal athlete is 6’2” and 175#—-Dennis
There is no way a fat person can shoot a 67 in golf—-Dennis
“Bright red Alabama is the “wild west”,” (when its bright blue Birmingham that accounts for 95% of the gun violence in Alabama)—-Dennis
That’s why McCarthy didn’t hold a vote. He was going to, but upon realizing he didn’t have the votes he chose not to hold one.—-Mr Peetape
McCarthy never said he didn’t have the votes.—-Mr Peetape.
*These statements are attributed to the booger eater, because they were posted by a green anonymous. If that clown wants to step up and claim ownership, I will change attribution.
@Tom
You are a troll of a different kind, though a troll nonetheless. We are scrolling past you, too, Captain Verbose and Vulgar. 🤷🏻♂️
Steaming turd^^^^^
On the contrary, Tom is providing a valuable service. He is tracking the numerous mistatements of fact by assorted posters here disconnected from reality.
Outside of left wing nut world, credibility is based on past accuracy and truthfulness, not ideological conformance.
This is actually a requirement for rising standard of living. If we place value in bad information, we get bad results and more faiulure.
If you do not want on Tom’s list – do not make false – especially knowingly false claims.
If you beleive Tom has erred in some item on his list – provide evidence of error.
I am sure Tom will remove anything on his list that is found to be false.
Because a failure to do so would undermine Tom’s credibilty.
Wise people trust those who tell the truth and do not trust those who do not.
Need I actually explain why that is wise ?
Further if you feel Tom’s list is incomplete and does not include error by others opposed to your views – provide examples or create your own list.
Thank you John. The list will stay. And grow. Those are certainties.
I am also saving word files of their best “prognostications” about the trump trials, the election, the impeachment inquiry, and Joe/Hunter Biden. I will be rubbing their noses in those steaming turds (oops, i said it again) between now and the election. I don’t still have the posts of Dennis heralding the Alpha Bank, the dossier, and the pee tape as real and how they would result in the demise of Trump. Like the coward he is, he has never confessed that the pee tape is not real. I regret not recording those but i have these.
I think James’ beef is more with my methods. And his point is well taken. How much I will choose to amend them depends on how vehemently I am attacked by the 4 hall of famers on that list, for simply calling out their lies.
He also has an issue with the number of posts I make. Again, not an unreasonable position. It waxes and wanes, really, depending on how busy I am creating the jobs that simpletons like Elvis Bug want to give the imbecile Joe Biden credit for.
And yes, I will add as anyone cares to contribute, but they must be willing to provide a link to the person saying it so that I can verify.
I wont remove any of my own additions, because I would not post it there dishonestly in the first place. If anyone wishes to offer sincere contriteness for their lie, I will consider removing it, depending on how much entertainment value the comment has. Some of these are pure gold LOL. For instance “AR-15’s ruin the meat” is there, not only because it is preposterously and provably false, but because it shows that Dennis is even willing to make up fictional characters to push his falsehoods.
“On the contrary, Tom is providing a valuable service. ”
I agree with you, John. Some of the vocabulary might be a bit off, but sometimes one has to take off their tie and spend only a little bit of time making sure the shoes and belt match.
Tom is a valuable resource, and James is too. Sometimes, people come at things in different ways. That’s diversity.
Thanks, Tom.
Mr Meyer
I appreciate that you get it. I’m a sarcastic type, by nature, but not bombastic. But there are 4 trolls who are determined to disrupt this site. Although i’m not convinced that Dennis isnt merely a narcissist, obsessed with kissing his own a$$ (and djt). I will aggressively disrupt their party, as loud as they may whine about it. I have the time and the means.
This is awesome…, I’ve gotten so up in this b hole’s head that I’ve been attributed with multiple things I didn’t even say. I’m truly honored by that.
Better yet, he/she/it thinks their opinion matters in some self centered egocentric way. Preferred tactics of this f$%kwit? Bringing air horns to town meetings. Farting repeatedly in crowded elevators…
Even probably jerks off when admiring his own posts. No doubt has been in the troll war games for a good while.
Let me pose this question: why should anyone care what you think?
He won’t answer this question because it’s all about playing offense and blasting opinion as fact. Thinks defense is weakness because he can move more quickly forward than someone can sidestep….
He thinks anyway because his indoctrination has told him he’s open minded rather than how programed he’s truly been. A bit of him has realized this and can never make that recognition go…, so it just presents as weakness internally and he has to peddle hard to silence that voice. In that respect he’s like an engine with the throttle stuck all the way open…
Engines facing that obstacle eventually blow, it’s a given. But for crissakes do it on your own time f$%ktwizzler.
Eb
Steaming turd^^^
You get credit for every Anonymous lie until and unless you choose a screen name.
Stop whining, you little pussy.
Also, please tell me…which of the lies on the Wall of Shame should I open my mind to?
Bahahahahaha….
As I asked before, why should anyone care what you think?
By the way, who are you talking to???? You seem to be explaining something to someone but I cant tell who. To John Say??? I won’t speak for him but I bet he thinks you’re a tool. Maybe it’s Dennis’ little imaginary friend. Or maybe its your own, in your drunken stupor.
LMAO
Here’s a clue…, when you see the term f$%kwit I’m speaking to you since you’re such a f$%kwit. Could apply to John too, since I’ve always thought you two were closely related.
Bonus question for you to ponder: what about your moan uncontrllably out loud at the cretin circle jerk opinion makes it more accurate than the information collection methods at factcheck.org???
OK, we’re a fifth in now, I can see. 1.4% is not an opinion f*cktard. You got suckered by fuctcheck.org
What does the caption say at fuctcheck.org?
I’ll tell you…it said “CPI”. It didn’t say “cumulative CPI”, and neither did you when you called me out and tried to defend Gigi’s lie.
It said that in a weak sauce attempt to fool the even weaker minded among us. Thats my opinion. You are weak minded. Thats my opinion. Keep talking and prove it some more.
All I did was post data from factcheck and speculate that’s what Gigi might be referring to. The getting your panties in a twist part was all you.
Thats not what you did. You are a liar. You said the CPI when Trump left office was 7.6%.
You ga e fuctcheck as support for that erroneous statement. On examination, you were duped by fuctcheck. You didnt say “cumulative” CPI. Fuctcheck didnt say “cumulative CPI”.
You cant change it by lying about it.
Let me pose this question: why should anyone care what you think?
—-Appears to be talking to me
He won’t answer this question because it’s all about playing offense and blasting opinion as fact.
—-Appears to be talking to himself
Wowsa….that must be 120 proof. Easy on that sh!t bro. I almost forgot…Smeagol!!!
“Let me pose this question: why should anyone care what you think?”
“He won’t answer this question…”
I’ll play, but you still haven’t answered my questions from earlier coward, and you won’t now either.
My opinions have no more or less importance than anyone else’s here. Whether they hold more weight, well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as Ray Stevens told us in Dick Heads post earlier.
If that were the litmus, whether anyone cares what you are I think, you would have been gone a long long time ago. In fact, you were gone. Banned.
Here is the real rub. You’re a liar. I’m not. So that goes a long way in what people think. Even those who don’t care for my methods, credit me for shoving the truth up yours and your cohorts noses. You don’t like the fact that I do it and to a lesser extent the way that I do it, even though it is eerily similar to your MO.
You can say all day long that I purport my opinion as fact. Everyone but you knows that’s not true. Just like everyone knows that 1.3, 2.2, 2.5, 1.9, 1.3 is not an upward trend. That’s not my opinion pinhead, that’s a fact. I never gave my opinion about why those numbers are what they are because I know that nobody cares. I said 2 days ago that if we continued the discussion, you’d throw out another easily provable lie. That was my opinion. YOU made it a fact.
Instead of all your bullsh!t nebulous claims about me, why don’t you put up or shut up?
Post one single demonstrably/provably false statement of fact that I have ever made.
Do it, or remain a coward and a liar.
While you’re at it, what is Bidens “cumulative” CPI to date? “Look everybody, he’ll never answer!!!!”
That will take me a bit to research as this is usually done when crushing the final numbers at the end of a president’s term and as we know that hasn’t happened yet for Biden. But I’ll get on it.
Now your turn, answer why your opinion is more reliable than the information gathering tactics of factcheck.org…
You regularly post opinion as fact by the way. To limit that to just citing one post wouldn’t be doing you justice…
Off to get an average monthly cpi.., but you could do it too. I’m not your research assistant, f$%kwit.
Through last April from factcheck. It’d be a lot more favorable if it had information from last April to now as, for instance there was 5% growth just last month…, but consistency is important to compare apples to apples so to speak…
https://www.factcheck.org/2023/04/bidens-numbers-april-update/
Keep your fuctcheck to yourself please lol.
What would any economist expect gdp to do when $6T is printed and pumped into the economy??? Good god dude, seriously?
Does the average american care more about gdp or the cost of food, housing, fuel etc? Care more about the dow or their 401k? Care more about their bank account or “unemployment rate”. Try that crap on a college student bro, not on people in the real world.
You could always refer back to the burueau of labor and inflation calculator data i posted some days back. You know, the stats you told me was b.s. before posting from the same sources yourself.
I didnt give an opinion. I gave a stat. 1.4%. I gave the source. THE source. The bureau of labor statistics. THE source.
Off to get an average monthly cpi.., but you could do it too.
No one asked you for that you f*cking miscreant.
I asked you for the same number you gave for Trump. The CUMULATIVE CPI for biden to date. Not the average CPI. You still dont RCAWT. Goddam its like talking to a 3rd grader. Now i need a drink
“You regularly post opinion as fact by the way. To limit that to just citing one post wouldn’t be doing you justice…”
Again, not what you were tasked with fuctard. U were challenged to show one statement of fact i’ve ever made that was demonstrably or provably untrue. And so you copout because you cant.
So, even your fuctcheck.org couldnt help Biden out on this one.
“Cumulative” CPI 14.9%
Thats in just 26 months, when Trumps number was 7.6% in 45 months.
Whats the over/under for Bidens 45 month total?
20%?
Posting that factcheck summation of trump’s term again…
Which you’ll no doubt say is b.s without explaining how you came to that conclusion. Which is just you forcefully sharing your opinion, nothing more.
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/10/trumps-final-numbers/
This is so easy. Tell us what that 7.6 number in your fuctcheck link represents.
Not one dem rep voted for the inquiry and that is pretty much all one needs to see. Biden is a tool, 81 million votes my little behind, and this has got to STOP. If we are to survive, this has to end, right now. Do not vote blue for *anything* in 2024, or sooner, if your elections fall that way. Blue is the modern day Nazi armband. If you don’t wake up right now, there may not be an opportunity to wake up later. This is absurd.
IDK James, 30% still believe the economy is good, Joe’s not a crook, and the pee tape is real.
Just look at the screaming banshee’s here, that come in every day to defend the pedophile and scream “there’s no evidence”.
We have more evidence that Joe Biden took showers with his daughter than there was that Trump raped E Jean Carroll. Do they care? No.
He paraded around naked in front of female Secret Service agents. Fact. Do they care? No.
He thinks he witnessed the bridge collapse in PA and was at Ground Zero the morning after. Do they care? No.
All they care about is keeping their dead babies, high inflation, high interest rates, sexual mutilation of minors, men in womens sports, and drag queen story hour, and Biden is their best chance to do that.