MSNBC’s Wallace: “All of the Conspiracy Theorists are Republicans.”

There has been a notable shift toward more and more extreme rhetoric in the media from predicting that democracy will end with this election to “disappearing” journalists and gays to ending all rights for everyone. On Monday, MSNBC host Nicolle Wallace added to this litany with a claim that “as with racists, all of the conspiracy theorists are Republicans.”

After discussing how GOP candidates have stated that they believe that the last election was “stolen,” Wallace added “It is not accurate to say everyone in the Republican Party is a conspiracy theorist but as with racists, all of the conspiracy theorists are Republicans.”

It was a crushingly ironic moment. Wallace has been repeatedly criticized for spreading false news. For example, the “Deadline: White House” host told viewers that they should not take the Hunter Biden laptop seriously: “We shouldn’t look at it as anything other than a Russian disinformation operation.”

Wallace heralded the Mueller investigation while pushing the now debunked Russian collusion claims. However, on the Durham investigation, she told viewers that they could ignore it despite the fact that the report stands uncontradicted:

“Durham’s whole thing is predicated on it’s like a rabbit hole conspiracy that suggests that the Trump-Barr paranoia infected his ability to stand back and evaluate whether the probe yielded guilty convictions of people who would have had nothing to do with any of these questions he looked at.”

Wallace and MSNBC also pushed false claims about Bill Barr clearing Lafayette Park for a Trump “photo op.”

On August 5th, 2019, MSNBC’s Nicole Wallace falsely claimed that Trump had talked about “exterminating Latinos.”

Wallace and MSNBC pushed the false story of border agents whipping migrants in Texas.

Wallace claimed that the lab theory of the Covid 19 was a “conspiracy theory.” It has been embraced by various federal agencies despite being called racist by many experts.

Many on the left now routinely call opposing views as spreaders of disinformation or conspiracy theories. The Biden Administration has funded various groups to blacklist or bar those with opposing views as disinformation, malinformation, or misinformation.  Indeed, new groups are being formed before the election to echo these claims, including one headed by the former “Disinformation Czar.”

260 thoughts on “MSNBC’s Wallace: “All of the Conspiracy Theorists are Republicans.””

  1. Jonathan, I know that there is a lot of money in right wing disinformation. I get that. It is very lucrative. I also understand that many of the social views and policies of the Democrats are distasteful. I get that as well.

    However, you will come to regret being on the side of right wing illiberal fruit cakes who will do anything to destroy democracy, and who work with our main enemy, Russia.

    Trump is a pathological liar, fraud, criminal money launder, sexual abuser and in the pocket of Russia. Do you really want to continue to support these criminals? Before you know it you will become a modern day Otto Thierack. Is that what you want?

  2. The FCC should issue a mandatory canned laugh track for all Nicole Wallace broadcasts.

    1. She’s almost as bad as Joy Reid. If you want actual news or truth, MsNBC is NOT the place to go!

  3. Wallace: ““as with racists, all of the conspiracy theorists are Republicans.”
    +++
    Sounds like a conspiracy theory.

  4. One of the numerous ‘acts’ President Trump will put into play after inauguration in January of 2025 will be to take away MSNBC’s license as a broadcaster. It won’t be too hard to find reasons to do so.

  5. The Left uses a plethora of sophistical tricks to intimidate you into silence. You’re a “conspiracy theorist” is one. You’re a “racist” is another.

    But here is one of the most insidious:

    “Those who are quick to protest are usually the ones guilty of the accusation.”

    That is the slimy tactic of an intellectual bully.

  6. “as with racists, all of the conspiracy theorists are Republicans.”

    When your candidate’s policies impoverish the country, endanger the innocent, and degrade the culture — you have only one campaign strategy: Smear the opposition.

    There was a time when the D’s put forth *policies*, position papers, used arguments and appealed to reason. That D party is long gone.

  7. Wallace ( and Steve Smidt) were two close aides to John McCain who were SPECIFICALLY NOT invited ( by John, in advance) to his funeral .

    Enuf said about the character of Nicole ( the squirrel )

  8. A little truth from Scotty Kilmer.

    Regardless of which side you’re talking about, you’re talking about the same side.

  9. Jonathan: Oh, I nearly forgot. Just before going into the courtroom today DJT went off on a tangent. He talked about Charlottesville–where neo-Nazis rampaged. At the time he said there were “good people on both sides”. Now why he would bring up Charlottesville today is a head scratcher–except for one thing–he called Charlottesville “peanuts” compared to what could happen today.

    Then Time released an interview today of an interview they did with DJT on April 12 at Mar-a-Lago. DJT was asked specifically if violence could occur if he loses to Biden. DJT responded: “I think we’re going to win. And if we don’t win, you know, it depends. It always depends on the fairness of an election.”

    So then it hit me. If DJT loses to Biden could there be a repeat of Jan. 6? A poll last year showed 94% of Dems and 74% of Republicans are very concerned about that prospect. So when DJT calls Charlottesville “peanuts” what does he have in mind if he loses to Biden this time around?

    1. Dennis – why would anyone believe you about anything ?
      The original Charlottesville nonsense was both debunked and irrelevant.

      It does not matter if” there were good people on both sides” though the actual comment in context was perfectly correct.
      Talk about debunked conspiracy theories and you are the poster child.

      Regardless it does not matter if the protestors at charlotesville were actual nazi’s – they were allowed to peacefully protest.
      Thyey were there to protest the removable of a statute of Robert E. Lee.

      They had a permit. Those who through frozen water bottles at them. Who spray them with mace who userd bug spray as flame throwers – did not have a permit. They were just violent thugs – and but for the fact that the governor removed the police would all have been arrested.

      As To any claims by you that Trump said anything – without links to actual video – Sorry – I am not inclined to believe you.
      Long ago I checked everything you post – nothing of consequence ever proved true.
      Periodically I check again – still nothing proving to be true.

      It is remotely possible that Trump might have said something about charlotesville – though I doubt it.
      It is near certain he said nothing resembling anything you have said.

      Why is it that people do not beleive you ?

      Beauce just like Turley’s takedown of Nichole Wallace about – You LIe when your lips move.

      It is not worth the time to even check your claims anymore.

      Regardless, people actually following the nonsense going on in NYC and elsewhere do not need you to tell them what to think.

      We find that the Biden White House was heaving involved Pushing NARA to take a records process that normally takes 18months too two years and compressit into 406 months – in order to “Get Trump”. We find that the DOJ/NARA actuyally sent 15 boxes of Document TO Trump before the MAL raid. We learn that DOJ opened an investigation way way earlier that had the slightest justification.
      Wh learned that Garland has lied under oath to congress about his involvement in DOJ/FBI/NARA/SC prosecutions of Trump.
      We learn that the WH has been interfering in the FBI investigation and at the DOJ.

      And where do we learn all this – from unredacted documents from the Smith prosecution in FL.

      Braggs case in NYC is going up in smoke. It is NYC so the odds of an acquital are small, but the odds of a hung jury are high, and Merchan is doubling down on the bias trying to tilt the jury. It is hard for any defendant when the Judge is also the prosecutor, and does not give a $chiff about the law.

      And what else do we see – violence on campuses accross the country. Some from left wing nut students, but alot from outside rent a protestors. Buildings being broken into, actually damaged. Well over 1000 arrested already and this is just starting.
      Even Joe Biden was FORCED to tell students that Violence was unacceptable and that “Intifada is a call to violence and anti-semetism.

      J6 was tame compared to the BLM riots. It is tame compared to what is going on now.

      Further J6 was a legitimate political protest that became violent when the Capitol Please started tear gassing protestors.

      The US Capitol is the pre-eminent public free speech and political protest forum in the world. You are free to peacefully march through its halls for whatever purposes you wish – including shouting death to jews.

      The J6 protests did peacefully mauch through the capitol – and left. They did not $hit all over the capitol. the did not spray racist graffetti all over., They did not commit arson. Outside the west tunnell entrance where the CP started violence by teargassing people – there was no confict with the CP. We have 50,000 hours of video of a peacefull protests which YOU have tried desparately to spin as violence.

      And here we are today – with buildings on campuses being destroyed. This is actual private property. 100,000’s of Students unable to attend classes. Graffetti all over, violence with the police.

      IF you are stupid enough to support Hamas or to shout death to Jews or Intifada – go for it. Every campus has actually public areas you can engage in all the free speech you want no matter how vile without disrupting the students who are their to get an education.

      When your actions DELIBERATELY seek to prevent others from their rights – then you are criminals. That is not free speech.
      Shouting Death to Jews is free speech – repugnant, but still free. “Stop the Steel” is free speech – whether you like it or not.

      Actually destroying buildings spraying them inside and out with grafetti is NOT free speech – unless these are YOUR buildings – you own them.

    2. Dennis – If Trump wins – there will be violence and we ALL know that.

      If the election is not conducted such that people beleive it was fair REGARDLESS of who wins – violence is a very real possibility.

      Are you prepared to say that those on the left will be completely peaceful if Biden loses and it is widely beleived that Trump rigged the election ? Your notr going to beleive the results when Trump wins NO MATTER WHAT.

      You seem to think that it si perfectly OK to have soviet style elections where those in power decide who will win, and that when people do not like that – they are not entitled to become violent.

      If Trump and republicans were widely beleived to have rigged the 2024 election – would violence by democrats not be justified.

      When the government loses the trust of the people – it is irrelevant which party is in control, there is a high likely hood of violence.

      What – do you think this is Russia – where Putin gets to declare himself the winning and install himself president ? Or Iran ?

      Is there nothing that government can do that is so lawless or evil that you would not do as our Founders did and directed us to do – and replace that govenrment – BY FORCE IF NECESCARY.

      I am perfectly happy with Trumps remarks. I WANT those of you on the left to KNOW that if you cheat in the elections that you may face violence. Just as if you commit any other crimes – you might face violence.

      But it is highly unlikely that you will see a repeat of 2020. What is far more likely is an even more violent repeat of 2024.

      Todays polls

      The Hill/Emerson 2-Way, 5-Way
      Georgia: Trump +3, Trump +6
      North Carolina: Trump + 5, Trump +9
      Wisconsin: Trump +2, Trump +5
      Pennsylvania: Trump +2, Trump +4
      Michigan: Trump +1, Trump +1
      Arizona: Trump +4, Trump +4
      Nevada: Trump +1, Trump +5

      Do you really think the idiots who protested for BLM or who are engaged in violent Pro-Hamas protests right now, are going to take Trump winning as peacefully as Trump supporters took 2020 or Clinton supporters took 2016 ?

      1. Even if Trump doesn’t win, there will be violence, because the left lives for hate, division and violence now. Just look at their colleges…

    3. Charloetteville was peanuts. One mentally unstable alt-right marcher who made a wrong turn and ended up with violent left wing nuts pounding on his car with baseball bats. Pushed his car through the crowd and a morbidly obese woman had a heart attach.

      That is inconsequential. The thousands who thought it was OK to through frozen watter bottle and rocks and spray mace in the face of real permitted protestors because they did not like what they were saying – that was the real violence at Charlottesville.

      I know this is hard for you to grasp but Your delusion that you are morrally right does not justify acts that are morally wrong.

      Your absurd beleif that Israel is committing genocide – where HAMA claims that 34,000 have died in about 200 days – which is less than those that died in the same time periods when the US invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. Does not justify doing violence to others.

      The Huti’s in Rwanda killed 800,000 Tutsi in 90 days – No college students were protesting genocide then.
      Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge killed over 2M of their own people – no student protests against genocide there.
      The left wing nut Ortega’s in Nicaragua murdered 80,000 of a disfavored native tribe – no student protests then.
      In gaza since the statt of this – about 40,000 babies have been born.

      If the israeli’s are engaged in genocide – their pretty bad at it.

      You in this country over 1000 have been arrested in the past few days for ….. VIOLENCE.

      Yeah, that is far more significant than Charolettesville.

      1. How many Ukrainians are now dead because Joe Biden’s eff’d up corrupt foreign policy pointless wars? Last count was upwards of 400k dead soldiers. The rest fled the country. Biden let Ukraine be destroyed and depopulated. Where are the. protests?

    4. He probably had lunch and a cheeseburger in mind. What did Joe Biden have in mind when he decided his only chance against DJT this time around was to go with Beria’s strategy against opponents of the State? Ice cream? Poll that in your therapist’s waiting room.

    5. At the time he said there were “good people on both sides”

      Are going to tell us all about Biden saying the exact same thing about the terrorists Hamas vs Israel?

    6. Do you left wingers have ANYTHING going for you, other than non-stop deflection when it is pointed out that the Biden administration is a massive failure? ‘Yeah, but Trump….’Yeah, but Trump….’Yeah, but Trump….’Yeah, but Trump….

    7. Thanl you for your leftist rant showing how empty all of your emotional arguemnts are , BTW, Hillary told Biden in 2020 to not concede and you seem to have a 2016 memory lapse. Now on to your ignorant statemnt about the leftist pushed Charlottesville narravtive. Swing and a miss Mr empty. Read the transcript outloud so yoyu can embarrass yourself. The refermce was not ot the neo’s or any white supreamacist groups. Please remind who said that “Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth”, Nice propaganda. How embarrissing it must be being you

  10. Poll: RFK Jr Appeals To Conspiracy-Minded Voters; Alarming Republicans!

    A Monmouth University poll Monday initially asked voters whether they would consider voting for Kennedy. Democrats were slightly more likely than Republicans to say they were.

    But then the poll asked people whether they were aware that Kennedy “claims that autism is linked to vaccines” and that he has floated a theory that covid was targeted at certain races. (Neither claim is based in fact.) About half of Republicans said they were aware of this; about 6 in 10 Democrats said they were.

    Then it asked again whether people, with this knowledge, would consider voting for him.

    Suddenly, the percentage of Republicans who said they would consider Kennedy rose by eight percentage points, nearly doubling to just shy of 1 in 5.

    The percentage of Democrats who said they would consider Kennedy, meanwhile, dropped by seven points to 1 in 10
    ………………………………..
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/30/poll-shows-how-rfk-jrs-appeal-anti-vaccine-right-could-hurt-trump/

    1. Kennedy said that Biden is a greater threat to democracy than Trump. That is not a conspiracy theory, It is an obvious fact. If he keeps saying that, people from both parties will support him.

    2. According to the Hill/Emerson polls TODAY Trump wins a 2 way race and wins a 5 way race BIG.

      The Hill/Emerson 2-Way, 5-Way
      Georgia: Trump +3, Trump +6
      North Carolina: Trump + 5, Trump +9
      Wisconsin: Trump +2, Trump +5
      Pennsylvania: Trump +2, Trump +4
      Michigan: Trump +1, Trump +1
      Arizona: Trump +4, Trump +4
      Nevada: Trump +1, Trump +5

      Personally – I do not care – If Kennedy harms Trump – he should be on the ballot.
      If Kennedy harms Biden – he should be on the ballot.
      As should Cornell West, and whoever is the libertarian candidate.

      Those trying to thwart Kennedy’s efforts to get on the ballot are all either Democrats or anti-Trump Republicans.
      They certainly beleive Kennedy hurts Biden.

      There is a single legitimate study that the CDC tried to bury that found that the MMR vaccine given to black male babies prior to 9 months had a statistical correlation to autism that was strongly statistically signficant. That is NOT proof that autism is linked to MMR vaccines.
      but it is evidence that requires further research.

      We get false statistical significance frequently in studies – Probably about 1 time in 100 analyses.
      The problem is in this publish or perish world Many published paper did hundreds of different analyses in order to get one or two that produced statistically significant results. That is called P hacking and it is very common.

      Except for the motives – there is nothing wrong with it.
      That is why the gold standard of science is NOT peer review, but reproducability.

      If the study connecting autism and MMR vaccines are reproducable, that is very meaningful.
      I think you will find it is NOT Kennedy in the way of trying to reproduce those studies.

      Regardless, I do not care if Kennedy is nuts. I find him very interesting – but I am not voting for him.
      But those who wish to should be allowed to – whether republican or democrat.

  11. The war will stop when the consequences to Russia are made more severe, such as destroying the Kremlin and the Kerch Bridge. with missiles.

      1. Russia cannot escalate if it does not have any human or material resources to escalate with. That is the point of destroying these resources.

        1. It has lots of men and resources. It is Ukraine that is short of both, and the West is not prepared to provide men and put their economies on a war footing to make up the difference.

        2. Russia has more nukes then the rest of the world combined. Are you planning on destroying about 6500 nukes without any retaliation with a 100% success rate ?

          1. It is a game of chicken that Putin would back down from as soon as it started, seeing how badly it is going for him.

  12. Jonathan: DJT was back in court today in his criminal case. He whined again about the temp in the courtroom, that he called an “icebox”, (he is showing his age) and then complained he was required to sit all day in court when he wanted to be out campaigning. By my count DJT had four days off—including last Wednesday. Did he campaign on those days? Nope. He was playing golf, golf, golf and more golf! Looks like campaigning comes in second to golf.

    When DJT entered the courtroom he was hit with contempt of court–9 different violations of the gag order. Unprecedented in criminal trials–but a lot of what DJT does is unprecedented. Anyone read Justice Merchan’s contempt order? He wanted to impose fines of as much as $150,000 for each violation but was constrained by NY law that limits the amount to $1,000 per violation. But Merchan made it clear to DJT that if he keeps up his bad behavior he is looking at some jail time. DJT is like the petulant 3rd grader who continues to act up in class and has to be sent home for a week.

    But Justice Merchan did throw DJT a bone. He told DJT he could have the day off to attend Barron’s high school graduation on May 17. DJT had lied by claiming the Justice would not let him attend his son’s graduation. That news made the rounds of social media who made fun of DJT. Here are a couple of posts on “X”:

    —“Poor Barron. Donald is gonna have to show up to his graduation. Methinks he’s not gonna be pleased having his classmates’ thunder stolen when Trump makes their graduation all about him”.

    —“BREAKING: Barron Trump has appealed Judge Merchan’s decision to let his father attend his graduation”.

    Now, I’ll bet 10 bucks that Trump skips the graduation to play golf. Any takers?

    1. Dennis says: “DJT is like the petulant 3rd grader who continues to act up in class.” Here is a more accurate statement: “DJT is a Presidential candidate who is trying to communicate with American voters.”

        1. DJT Gigi is a fraudster, serial abuser of women Americans, lier (sic) liar, overweight slob.

          It appears you had no offers at the gay bathhouse in West Hollywood yet again. Here’s a thought!
          Hamas in Gaza would love homersexuals like you, show you the sights, the scenery from tall buildings, and considering you’re an overweight slob, it would take several hairy, alpha, smelly Hamas terrorists to push you from the building which would make it you’re one and only high point of your existence

          Gopher it!

        2. Well, Biden is a 5 decade failure, documented pathological liar, pedophile (liked showering with his daughter) and sexually assaulted Tara Reade. Trump, BTW, has lost a lot of weight, and i bet he can spell ‘liar’ as well, unlike you, sparky.

    2. ” DJT was back in court today in his criminal case.”
      A case that is increasingly falling apart before all of us. It is far weaker than even those saying it was a farce originally knew.
      It is increasingly obvious why no one else brought this case – including Bragg until his arm was twisted.

      “He whined again about the temp in the courtroom, that he called an “icebox”, (he is showing his age)”
      So what ?

      “then complained he was required to sit all day in court”
      And correctly so – the right to confront your accusers is the right of the DEFENDANT, there is no right of the prosecution or the state to have a criminal defendant at trial. Like ALL rights – these belong to the individual not the state.

      I do not care why Trump does not want to be in court. While that is a mistake for most criminal defendants.
      It is not here, nor for Trump.

      Even you should not be so stupid as to think that Trump is more likely to be acquitted if he sits through this trial.
      There will be a hung jury or a conviction – no matter what. And the latter will cause a short dip in the polls and left wing nut talking heads like Conspiracy theorist Nichole Wallace to rant “convicted Fellon” every time they mention Trump,
      But otherwise it will have no effect.

      Trump’s poll numbrs are on the rise again – so this is strategy is not working. Trump is ahead in ALL swing states.

      “when he wanted to be out campaigning. By my count DJT had four days off—including last Wednesday. Did he campaign on those days? Nope. He was playing golf, golf, golf and more golf! Looks like campaigning comes in second to golf.”

      You do not seem to grasp that you have no control over the lives of other people.
      If Trump actually plays golf instead of campaigning – those with a voice in that are persuadable Trump voters – NOT YOU.
      Nor is it any of Merchan’s business.

      If Trump wishes to stay away from the trial as a well deserved show of disdain for Merchan and Bragg he is free to do so.

      “When DJT entered the courtroom he was hit with contempt of court–9 different violations of the gag order. ”
      That would be 9 different violations of an unconstitutional gag order.

      “Unprecedented in criminal trials”
      Correct.

      “but a lot of what DJT does is unprecedented.”Actually what is unprecedented is the response of Democrats to Trump.

      “Anyone read Justice Merchan’s contempt order? Why ?”

      “He wanted to impose fines of as much as $150,000 for each violation but was constrained by NY law that limits the amount to $1,000 per violation.”
      So MErchan admits that But for NY law he would have gone even further rogue – and you think that is a good thing ?

      “But Merchan made it clear to DJT that if he keeps up his bad behavior he is looking at some jail time.”
      PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE
      do something that stupid.

      You idiots are playing a game of chicken with somebody who has far bigger balls than you do AND is both on the right side of the law and public oppinion and knows how to use those to his advantage.

      I will tell you with absolute Certainty that Trump WILL continue to violate the Gag order.
      But he will do so carefully. He will make sure that whatever he says that pisses off Bragg and Merchan makes them look as petty and small as possible. And gives him the strongest possible appeal.

      Rather than Read Mechan – I would suggest that you read the Sam Shepard case. That is the Case that Merchan is relying on for SCOTUS support of “gag orders”. and that case allows gagging of PROSECUTORS AND JUDGES to protect the rights of the DEFENDANT.

      Oops.

      ” DJT is like the petulant 3rd grader who continues to act up in class and has to be sent home for a week.”
      Actually that would be Merchan. Jusges are not supposed to have Thin skin, they are not supposed to show bias.

      “But Justice Merchan did throw DJT a bone. He told DJT he could have the day off to attend Barron’s high school graduation on May 17.”
      That was not a bone. Trump was with near certainty going to do so, FORCING a confrontation with Merchan.
      One that would make Merchan look even more petty and small.
      You do not seem to understand who the ACTUAL petulant 3rd grader is.

      ” DJT had lied by claiming the Justice would not let him attend his son’s graduation.”
      If you only had a brain. Trump did not lie. MErchan changed has mind when he grasped that he was between a rock and a hard place.

      “Now, I’ll bet 10 bucks that Trump skips the graduation to play golf. Any takers?”
      I will take that bet.
      How are you planning to pay me ?

      Trump was at my Brother’s graduation from College 40 years ago.
      Trump is undoubtedly serially unfaithful to his wives. He is also undoubtedly devoted to all his children.

      Christ told us to judge Trees by the Fruit they bear.

      Joe Biden had one child that was not thoroughly revolting who died of brain cancer – though Joe seems to think he died in Iraq.
      Maybe he was eaten by Canibals.
      The rest of Biden’s family is pretty sleazy – with Hunter taking the cake.
      How many of Trump’s childre have a 1/3M dollar a year drug, alcohol and prostitute problem ?

  13. Update on Columbia University administration response to university student Hamas terrorists

    Ms. Shafik said the university had offered to review its practices on “socially responsible investing” and would convene a faculty committee to discuss academic freedom. The university also offered to “make investments in health and education in Gaza, including supporting early childhood development and support for displaced scholars.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/columbia-palestine-protests-israel-minouche-shafik-democrats-0b973b88

    Gaza has been run by Hamas by the will of the people of Gaza for decades. Hamas has stolen humanitarian aid to fund their weapons, used hospitals for cover, enslaved and beaten women, indoctrinate children to kill Jews, kill homosexuals, and show every form of vile hatred that South Africa Apartheid could have never imagined

    Columbia University is done

    Democrats have antisemitic blood on their hands

    1. Hamas could end the war immediately by releasing the hostages and surrendering themselves into exile. Instead they use the deaths of Palestinians in Gaza to further their ambition of destroying Israel.

  14. Fresh Off The Press:

    Trump’s Agenda Is Extreme; Including Deportation Camps!

    What emerged in two interviews with Trump, and conversations with more than a dozen of his closest advisers and confidants, were the outlines of an imperial presidency that would reshape America and its role in the world.

    To carry out a deportation operation designed to remove more than 11 million people from the country, Trump told me, he would be willing to build migrant detention camps and deploy the U.S. military, both at the border and inland. He would be willing to build migrant detention camps and deploy the U.S. military, both at the border and inland.

    Trump would let red states monitor women’s pregnancies and prosecute those who violate abortion bans. He would, at his personal discretion, withhold funds appropriated by Congress, according to top advisers.

    Trump would be willing to fire a U.S. Attorney who doesn’t carry out his order to prosecute someone, breaking with a tradition of independent law enforcement that dates from America’s founding. He is weighing pardons for every one of his supporters accused of attacking the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, more than 800 of whom have pleaded guilty or been convicted by a jury.

    https://time.com/6972021/donald-trump-2024-election-interview/
    …………………………………

    Apparently Trump would not just deport recent illegal immigrants, but even those who have been here since the Reagan amnesty back in the 1980’s. And such an effort would require a military operation complete with deportation camps; an insanely radical ambition.

    1. If the left didn’t have the ability to lie, they would have nothing to say.

      As one example, I will provide Time’s question and then Trump’s answer. One cannot trust anyone from the left, especially this guy, who doesn’t read or confirm what he links us to.

      “You came out this week and said that abortion should be left to the states and you said you won’t sign a federal ban. So just to be clear: Will you veto any bill that imposes any federal restrictions on abortions? ”

      “Trump: You don’t need a federal ban. We just got out of the federal. You know, if you go back on Roe v. Wade, Roe v. Wade was all about—it wasn’t about abortion so much as bringing it back to the states. So the states would negotiate deals. Florida is going to be different from Georgia and Georgia is going to be different from other places. But that’s what’s happening now. It’s very interesting. But remember this, every legal scholar for 53 years has said that issue is a state issue from a legal standpoint. And it’s starting to work that way. And what’s happened is people started getting into the 15 weeks and the five weeks or the six weeks and they started getting into, you know, time periods. And they started all of a sudden deciding what abortion was going to be.”

      1. Alan:

        I don’t know who you think is lying about what. The paragraph posted is exactly as written by Time. And other sources are now reporting on this interview.

        What’s more, you quote Trump, from Time as saying,

        “every legal scholar for 53 years has said that issue is a state issue from a legal standpoint”.

        Trump doesn’t know what he’s talking about here. He’s just babbling! There’s no agreement among legal scholars saying any such thing.

        1. The question is, what did Trump actually say that was related to the lie you provided? You have nothing to say, so you search the net for lies that suit your passion. That makes you a liar as well. But you have been a liar almost forever and proven wrong repeatedly.

          Abortion is a state issue, not a federal one. That is why so much manipulation of words, ideas and shadows took place when the decision was made. I can’t do anything for you, but Trump is more right than wrong, and you are more wrong than right.

          Even RBG had severe reservations against the decision made by the Supreme Court in Roe V. Wade. You can search for many legal opinions about that decision.

          “Roe v. Wade, in contrast, invited no dialogue with legislators. Instead, it seemed entirely to remove the ball from the legislators’ court. In 1973, when Roe was issued, abortion law was in a state of change across the nation. As the Supreme Court itself noted, there was a marked trend in state legislatures “toward liberalization of abortion statutes.” That movement for legislative change ran parallel to another law revision effort then under way—the change from fault to no-fault divorce regimes, a reform that swept through the state legislatures and captured all of them by the mid-1980s.
          No measured motion, the Roe decision left virtually no state with laws fully conforming to the Court’s delineation of abortion regulation still permissible. Around that extraordinary decision, a well-organized and vocal right-to-life movement rallied and succeeded, for a considerable time, in turning the legislative tide in the opposite direction.
          Constitutional review by courts is an institution that has been for some two centuries our nation’s hallmark and pride. Two extreme modes of court intervention in social change processes, however, have placed stress on the institution. At one extreme, the Supreme Court steps boldly in front of the political process, as some believe it did in Roe. At the opposite extreme, the Court in the early part of the twentieth century found—or thrust—itself into the rearguard opposing change, striking down, as unconstitutional, laws embodying a new philosophy of economic regulation at odds with the nineteenth century’s laissez-faire approach.7 Decisions at both of these poles yielded outcries against the judiciary in certain quarters. The Supreme Court, particularly, was labeled “activist” or “imperial,” and its precarious position as final arbiter of constitutional questions was exposed.”
          _RBG

          1. Alan, every state that has held ballot initiatives on abortion has seen the majority vote for legal access. Women don’t want to lose a right they had for 50 years. And too many metro regions are near state lines for a patchwork system to work.

            1. So what ? Still a state issue.

              Women are not losing anything – in all of human history there has NEVER been aright to an abortion.

              Those of you on the left think you can manufacture rights out of whole cloth.

              Rights are NOT decided by the majority of people.
              Rights are what all of us have even when the majority wish we did not.

              Free speech is a right.
              Control of your own body is a right.
              Abortion is not.

            2. Do you need help understanding the points in the discussion? Your comment made you a fool, and now you wish to change the discussion. What is wrong with your mind?

              “Alan, every state that has held ballot initiatives on abortion has seen the majority vote for legal access.”

              Your question demonstrates stupidity. In former discussions, the question was whether abortion should be federal or state. Abortion is not mentioned in the Constitution and historically was left with the state. Your hysteria led you to claim that women could be denied legal access. Here, you prove they weren’t and demonstrate you were shortsighted.

              The states provide majority rule on the issue of abortion, proving your foolishness in the earlier discussion.

              Women are not losing their right to abortion. It might be more difficult in some states and less complicated in others with late-term abortion laws. Those laws permit the baby to be aborted by pulling him apart, aborting the fully-developed baby leg after leg and arm after arm. You are a Chicken Little and have little use in any discussion except to highlight stupidity.

              “Women don’t want to lose a right they had for 50 years.”

              Again, you demonstrate a diminished intellect. You are saying that the right to abortion is only 50 years old.

              That is somewhat correct. The Constitution was ratified in 1787, so according to you, there was no Constitutional right to abortion. You keep proving yourself to be a mouthpiece unattached to a brain.”

        2. The infamous RBG called Roe bad law. She admitted it did not follow the Constitution.

          The 10th amendment is clear about limited, enumerated, power, of the Federal Govt.

          1. Iowan, the above anonymous was too embarrassed by his ignorance to keep any of his prior aliases, and now he posts under anonymous. He thinks being anonymous is chic, like hiding behind women and children for protection. He’s the same dunce as he always was.

        3. No one THINKS someone is lying we KNOW that you are lying.
          Did Trump say what Time quoted – yes.
          Did Trump say what you claimed ? NO!

          Ypui are correct that every legal scholar for the past 53 years did not say that this should be left to the states.
          No he was not babbling. He was exagerating. He does that all the time.
          MKost would be more accurate – and that includes none other than Ruth Bader Ginsburg who beleived Row was a mistake.

          I personally beleiv Contra Thomas that the 9th amendment DOES produce a right to control of your own body.
          And that is the correct decision. But that does NOT get you an unconstrained right to an abortion – the fetus is IN your body it is NOT your body. The right to control your body means you can have it removed. But you can not require ti to be killed.
          And that STILL while preventing states from barring the eremoval of the fetus, would still allow each state to decide what efforts had to be made to protect the life of the fetus being aborted.

    2. With respect to deportation – little of this is new.
      What he SAID was he will enforce the law.

      I would further note this happened – under Obama.
      If you arrived illegally in the US after the Reagan amnesty and you were caught – you would be deported.
      The most common way that you would get caught would be to commit a crime. Even a small one.

      My wife successfully defended an Iraq Ward vet who was here illegally who got arrested on a minor Drug violation.
      He entire goal was to reduce the conviction to something that would not trigger deportation.
      This was while Obama was president.

      It is not new.

      As a practical matter there will be no mass deportations of millions – it is impossible to catch millions of illegal immigrants without violating ALL of our civil rights. In the US the government may not require people to produce “papers” except to fly, to vote, and to drive.
      The police can not stop you and demand ID – unless you are driving.

      There are two places that illegal immigrants are caught. The first is when they are caught committing other crimes.
      The 2nd is with regard to employment. It is illegal for US employers to hire illegal immigrants – and has been for decades.

      Most of the time illegals find forged documents. When an employer provides the govenrment with records that contain large numbers of fraudulent social security numbers, the govenrment raids the employer, and can then demand papers from those employees who provided forged ones – that is also a crime.

      Many states now allow illegal immigrants to get drivers licenses – this violated federal law, but these states do not care.

      We already see those states as the final desitination for many illegal immigrants.

    3. The president of the united state can not tell states how to enforce their own laws.

      If Biden is NOT saying exactlyu the same thing as Trump regarding state abortion laws – then Biden is violating his oath to follow the constitution.

    4. Every J6 accused or convicted who did not engage in violence should be PARDONED.
      Their prosecution was politically motivated unconstiotutional garbage.

      Every J6 accused or convicted who did engage in violence should have their sentence commuted to match that of violent BLM rioters.

      The Attorney’s in NYC that through a molatove cocktail into an occupied plice care got 18months probabtion.
      Any J6 defendant whose offense is less egregions than that – should receive no more than 18months probation.

      YOU set the standards – Live with them.

    5. Presidents have extremely limited ability to withold funds allocated by congress.

      Though I would note that the actual Federal LAWS passed by both republicans and democrats regarding abortion over the past 40 years REQUIRE the federal government to stay out of abortion funding entirely.
      Though democratic presidents tend to ignore those laws.

    6. “Trump would be willing to fire a U.S. Attorney who doesn’t carry out his order to prosecute someone, breaking with a tradition of independent law enforcement that dates from America’s founding.”
      Clearly you are clueless about americas founding – and subsequent History.

      I would suggest some inquiry into Thomas Jefferson’s efforts to prosecute his former Vice President Aaron Burr.

      Jefferson, Burr and John Marshall the Trial Judge were all founders.
      Jefferson provided the prosecutor with signed blank presidential pardons for anyone who would help convict Burr.

    1. The call you conspirators, climate deniers, etc.

      And you ——- believe them.

      STOP!
      _________________________________

      “It doesn’t work if you don’t believe.”

      – Violet, Skeleton Key

      @00:30https://youtu.be/zI-NSs1JxeA

  15. Nicole Wallace represents a psychopathic “news media” that refuses to recognize facts, distorts reality to portray themselves as victims and attacks anyone who observes factual events

    When the Democrats lag in their polling numbers, it’s the fault of American conservatives

    When Biden manifests symptoms of cognitive impairment, it’s the fault of American conservatives

    When Americans express dissatisfaction with salaries not keeping apace with increase in costs for food, rent and cost of living expenses, it’s the fault of American conservatives

    When Marxists students and paid agitators articulate death to Jews, violate university campus rules, and spit & throw projectiles at police, innocent students and Jews, it’s the fault of American conservatives

    Why the Right Loves the Anti-Israel Encampments Three reasons Trump and Bibi want the protests to continue.
    – Jonathan Chait

    At the University of Michigan, the leader of the main student anti-Israel group, who had been sympathetically profiled in the New York Times and given the university’s prestigious award for students “who best exemplify the leadership and extraordinary vision of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.,” wrote on social media, “Until my last breath I will utter death to every single individual who supports the Zionist state. Death and more. Death and worse.”

    The most violent and unhinged statements are coming not from the periphery of the protests but from their leadership, because the most committed members of these groups have most thoroughly absorbed their radical commitments and relentless dehumanization of political opponents.

    This is catnip not only for American conservatives, but also for the Israeli right. insert ™ here

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/anti-israel-encampments-protest-palestine-republicans-trump-israel-anti-semitism.html

    catnip for American conservatives = it’s the fault of American conservatives

    It appears wearing masks while committing violence, shouting death to Jews and disrupting American life is catnip for Democrats. If the targeted groups were Muslims, blacks, or gays, the FBI would have arrested all protestors in less than 6 hours because totalitarianism is catnip for Democrats.

    Meanwhile more and more Americans feel like hostages in their own country. Thankfully we have the Second Amendment where having plenty of ammo is better than Xanax

    😂

    1. Excellent – though I am not sure I would agree with Chait’s reasoning, I agree with his conclusion.

      One of the many reasons for free speech is so that people are free to show us who they are.
      Those on the left are doing so.

      Republicans are happy – because they are litterally parroting fascist Nazi garbage.

      So long as they do not actually gain power – and coming out in the open and peaking is decreasing the chances of that.

      The Biden administration has been a howto manual for F#$King things up.

      The silver lining for the rest of us when the left in the US gain power – is they are complete F$%Kups.

      Trump is not winning this election – Biden and democrats are losing it.

      While supermajorities like Trump policies.
      More important is that supermajorities hate one or another of the things Biden has done to the country.

      Yes, Republicans are celebrating Democrats making fools of themselves – and they absolutely should be.

      Though they would be wise to be careful to aviod the same fate – or we could get these idiots back again.

      Regardless, ultimate the rules of the free market even apply to government.

      If you want people to buy what you are selling – you must sell something they want.

      Increasingly people do not want the failure that Democrats are selling.

      Increasingly people are realizing that flowery rhetoric that does not deliver is just shades of lies.
      Democrats do not deliver on their promises – BECAUSE THEY CAN”T – most of hwat they promise is impossible.

      “Do you renounce Satan,
      and all his works and empty promises ?”

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