How Democrats Make Republicans: RFK Should Be A Wake Up Call for the Party

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Below is my column in the New York Post on the withdrawal of Robert Kennedy, Jr. from the presidential race and his endorsement of former President Donald Trump. Kennedy’s speech resonated with many long-time Democrats who have found themselves estranged from the party. While Kennedy remains an independent, it is a cautionary tale that is being missed in the “joy” theme of the Democratic National Convention. The fact is that new Republicans are often not the product of ideology and association but anxiety and exclusion. Democrats make Republicans.

Here is the column:

The withdrawal of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. from the presidential race and his endorsement of former President Donald Trump was yet another extraordinary moment in an election that has been anything but predictable.

Only a year ago, it would have been unthinkable that a sitting president would be effectively forced off a ticket and replaced by a candidate who did not secure a single vote for president.

Now, the nephew of John F. Kennedy and son of the Robert F. Kennedy has not just withdrawn from the Democratic Party but endorsed the Republican nominee.

Amidst all of the claimed “joy” of the Democratic National Convention, there is a sobering reality that is being ignored by the ecstatic press and pundits: this is how Democrats make Republicans.

There is an old expression that “a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged.”

Irving Kristol explained the neoconservative movement was built by Democrats “mugged by reality.”

Kennedy has not become a Republican but rather joined the roughly half of Americans now identifying as independents. While this country is solidly under the hold of a duopoly of power in the two main parties, only 25% of the country identify as Democrats, and 25% as Republicans.

Kennedy’s departure from the Democrats has been mocked in the press. However, when he spoke on his withdrawal, many of us who have been lifetime members of the party identified with his remarks.

I come from a politically active liberal Democratic family in Chicago. I spent much of my life working for liberals since I first came to Washington as a Democratic House page in the 1970s. I did stints on the Hill or on campaigns with Democrats ranging from Rep. Sid Yates (Ill.) to Sen. William Proxmire (Wis.) to Mo Udall (Arz.). I even worked on the campaign and ran for delegate for RFK Jr.’s uncle, Sen. Ted Kennedy.

Then the party changed. Where once they defended free speech, Democrats have rallied behind censorship and blacklisting of those with opposing views. They have sought to block dozens of Republicans from ballots, including former President Trump. To make matters worse, they have done so in the supposed name of democracy.

Those actions were raised by Kennedy in his powerful and poignant withdrawal speech. He detailed how the Democratic party moved to stop him from running against President Biden in the primary, including efforts to block him from ballots. It was an ironic moment. After harassing candidates like RFK and Minnesota Rep. Dean Phillips, the Democratic leadership then simply installed their choice at the convention in an unprecedented bait-and-switch.

There could have been a substantive primary that exposed the diminished mental state of Biden and allowed for a democratic choice on the best nominee. Instead, the Democrats prevented such choices from being made and selected a leader with all of the transparency and deliberation of a party Congress in China.

Kennedy said that the Democratic Party has virtually shoved him and other voters into the arms of Donald Trump and the Republican Party.

Kennedy observed that “I began this journey as a Democrat, the party of my father, my uncle, the party which I pledged my own allegiance to long before I was old enough to vote.”

He said that his party was the one that championed free speech, government transparency, and opposed unjust wars. “True to its name, it was the party of democracy.”

He said that the party has turned its back on all of the values that once defined it. For former Democrats like Kennedy, running on “joy” is no substitute for these profound changes in the party.

Indeed, the DNC bordered on the creepy as speaker after speaker sold the idea that, if voters could just swallow the Harris candidacy, they would immediately experience joy like some political prozac commercial.

It is not clear whether the red pill/blue pill pitch will be enough, or whether Kennedy’s endorsement will turn the critical votes in swing states.

However, the DNC showed how Democrats make Republicans. The unrelenting identity politics and claims of defending democracy (while opposing democratic choice) only reaffirmed for many that there is no longer a big tent in the party of Roosevelt and Kennedy.

There is a serious question whether John F. Kennedy would recognize or support the current Democratic Party. It now rejects many of his core, mainstream values.

His nephew highlighted the irony of how the party not only worked to block the ability of opponents to challenge President Biden but worked to “conceal the cognitive decline of the sitting president.”

Even the Washington Post recently admitted that “the 81-year-old had shown signs of slipping for a long time, but his inner circle worked to conceal his decline.”

However, the Post failed to note that Vice President Kamala Harris was part of that inner circle. Indeed, she has been touting her close work with Biden in her campaign.

There is little recognition that, if true, it means that Harris, the White House, and leading Democrats lied to the public about Biden’s mental decline for their own political interests.

For Kennedy, it was all too much “and, most sadly … in the name of saving Democracy, the Democratic Party set itself to dismantling it, lacking confidence in its candidate, that its candidate could win in a fair election at the voting booth.”

There is little “joy” in that.

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. He is the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage” (Simon & Schuster).

377 thoughts on “How Democrats Make Republicans: RFK Should Be A Wake Up Call for the Party”

  1. I was impressed by the manner the PolitBuro, I mean the Democratic elite tossed Biden and elevated the Kackala. A coup followed by an coronation. That is democracy in action.

    1. @doug

      Another stunning example of dem ‘democracy’:

      https://nypost.com/2024/08/21/opinion/chuck-schumer-potentially-eliminating-the-filibuster-is-the-key-to-a-radical-agenda/

      Additionally, I always also suspected they’d try to pull an amnesty deal after they’d let the border be porous for long enough, and I suspect if they follow through it’ll be when they know it’ll be tied up in court and their narrative has sufficiently fueled rage/gaslit long enough for them to have reaped the benefits. Afterward it doesn’t really matter – their chaos will have been sufficient, and they’ll be busy frantically changing laws by fiat.

      We truly cannot believe a single word coming out of the DNC or anything adjacent to them anymore. Not a one. Hoo boy, are they ever part of a regime.

      1. James,
        Re: amnesty, and then all those illegals will vote Democrat as the Democrats will promise them all kinds of free stuff, keeping them in power, while the nation falls apart all around them into bankruptcy.

        1. @Upstate

          Almost certainly. They really are the party of selfishness and gross exploitation. Whatever humanitarian qualities they may have once possessed or espoused are just ashes in the wind at this point.

        2. “Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.”
          -H. L. Mencken

  2. Witch hunts, when you’re the witch. Warlock trials, when you’re the warlock. Capitol punishment, when you’re the example. Human rites, when you’re the baby. Green deals, when you’re the customer. Immigration reform, when you’re the leverage. Redistributive change, with progressive prices, capital extraction, debt forgiveness, etc. Diversity, when your color bloc is excluded under quota. Political congruence, the Rainbow effect, when you’re white (i.e. albino). Gender confusion therapy, equivocation, and inclusion,
    when you’re the female sex and feminine gender.

  3. Tulsi Gabbard’s book is a most worthwhile read. With Kennedy making such a substantial break, and with Tulsi, we know that the fight for our freedom has just begun. The Democratic Convention was nothing more than a rally and one would have to wonder, what is really wrong with these people?! A walk-in (waltz in) candidate and one that until 35 days ago was considered a terrible VP is now close to becoming President. She has shown her intent with the Border — and no matter the spin, she is directly responsible for the damage done to millions of people — those crossing the border and those who are citizens on the other side.

    JT – thank you for your columns and for being a spearhead to the issues that are vital to how we ‘fight’ for the soul of our nation — not for the values of the left that will destroy the fiber of our country.

  4. Robert F. Kennedy’s decision to withdraw from the race and endorse President Trump is truly worthy of his uncle’s Profiles in Courage. Thank you, Jonathan, for an excellent article. Greg

  5. Under the hoisted on your own petard category wouldn’t it be nice if Trump won the WH and Republicans took the Senate and then they ended the filibuster? Hey Schumer, you like apples?

    1. Obviously you are ignorant of William Shakespeare’s works, words, and meaning.

      The actual quote is “the engineer hoist with his own petard.” “Hoist” meant blown up; “petard” a small explosive device.

      The phrase, therefore, signifies a bomb maker blowing himself up with the bomb he manufactured.

      Please ascertain before posting. It produces a much more flattering image of the poster to do so.

      1. Karen, thank you so much. Don’t you have some dinner and babies to make? You know, men get hungry, and the American fertility rate is in a “death”spiral”—Americans are vanishing because American women aren’t doing their “duty” and making them in numbers sufficient to grow and defend the nation. Not to worry, Americans and America will soon be gone. All’s well that ends, right? 

  6. The sharp move by democrats to the left seems to have concluded around the Obama term. A few things seem to have pushed the move. The left began to embrace illegal immigration as a potential source of new voters. Historically, unions vehemently opposed illegal immigration as a threat to their existence but as we moved toward a service driven economy, the left had to switch tactics. When the manufacturing base closed up, unions were no longer that important to the party. When that happened, cities that were once prosperous have become ghettos controlled by the left, see Detroit, Newark, Baltimore, etc. The media has played a big role too. Newspapers and journalism used to play a major role in politics. Issues were discussed, facts were gathered, reporters sourced stories, editorials mattered. Now, most of our news comes in short bursts from TV, much of it opinion based, or from a handful of internet sites, controlled by a few radicals. There was also the reassurance of where the US stood in the world. We, and our friends in Europe, we on the side of good. Fascism/dictators were bad, the Russians and the Chinese were not our friends. We lived under a cold war, where being labeled a “communist” was still a terrible insult. Now, we trade with these folks, so how bad can they be that bad? Rather than free-trade changing them to our way of thinking, it appears to be the other way around. Religion, especially Catholicism in the US used to mean something, but though apathy and scandal, people no longer care very much about faith, or lack thereof, so the vacuum got filled by the LGBT crowd, abortion rights, half of marriages ending in divorce, etc. Its easy to see how you can slide as a country from begin Reps/Dems from the Kennedy era, to what you have today, politicians that openly support socialism, open borders, abortion on demand, trans gender rights, “free” and unfettered trade with China, etc.

  7. *SENATOR KEELEY

    Wasn’t it really lost when people became greedy and drunk with power and had nit the law in mind? The law is the Constitution.

    The refrain of people are coming here to make a better life for themselves instead of people are coming here for freedom?

    Americans were an intelligent group at its core that fostered the best and now those Americans have been replaced by the most unintelligent designs imaginable.

    A gun in your ribs and what’s in your wallet…

    1. * not—> not nit.

      It’s always for money, Judas. Vigilance is a virtue. Ever vigilant ..

  8. From somebody who would know named Kennedy in one of the best political speeches of my lifetime highlighted by its brutal honesty:

    “I’m sorry to say that while democracy may still be alive at the grassroots, it has become a little more than a slogan for our political institutions, for our media and for our government. And most sadly, for me, the Democratic Party, in the name of saving democracy, the Democratic Party is dismantling it.”
    “The Democrats stood against authoritarianism, against censorship, against colonialism, imperialism and unjust wars. We were the party of Labor – of the working class. The Democrats were the party of government transparency and the champion of the environment. Our party was the bulwark against big money interests and corporate power. True to its name, it was the Party of Democracy.
    As you know, I left the Democrat party because it had departed so dramatically from the core values that I grew up with. It had become the party of war censorship, corruption, Big Pharma, Big Tech, Big Ag and Big $$.”

    How anyone can vote for the Democrats after this testimony is beyond me but I know for sure you can’t love the country and do it.

    1. mespo: I am in full agreement with you. After watching ALL of his political speech, which I almost never do, I felt like it was a seismic shift. That, of course, is in a country where the media is doing what the media should do. However, he will be cast into oblivion by the MSM and ignored. That should not happen. Just as hard-hitting was some of the interview his running-mate, Nicole Shanahan, had with Adam Corolla. She is barely a kid in my book, but very inciteful.

      1. Do you really consider Shanahan’s words constitute incitement?

        I can’t agree.

          1. Randy: It’s OK, I knew what you meant. I started laughing (because the context explained your intent).

    2. I was considering voting for Kennedy. I heartily disagree with many of his positions. But imo he is relentlessly honest, a trait novel in a politician of any persuasion.

      1. Ragnar D: I agree with your assessment of Kennedy. Didn’t Hullbobby or you previously post some people in an imagined Trump 2 administration, including Tulsi Gabbard? I do believe Kennedy could fill in/out some corners as well.

  9. Cut to the chase. The TV coverage of each of the conventions, the demographics therein, and the oratory which came forth makes clear that this cycle is nothing more than a socio-economic and political race war between classes in this nation. It began with, and was abetted by Obama and his ‘change is coming’ mantra which persisted for two terms. In his inaugural speech, Trump made it clear that he was there to clean out the deep state. The ensuing four years was a battle royal waged by the aforementioned to retain their roots of power. Recent rulings by the Supreme Court have said that the Constitution will support that effort. The ‘Obama Doctrine’ was resurrected by Biden in the 2020 campaign by inspiring a gender and complexion driven contest, capitalizing on the hopes and dreams of a segment of the electorate that a female of color would ultimately be the leader of the free world. All other considerations, both domestic and foreign were deemed secondary. As well, this ‘open-mindedness’ served to embolden the social engineers and the virtue signalers who jumped aboard that train to throw open the ‘closet door’ and release the Woke Volkinitiative and its Cancel Culture Gestapo to further fractionate this society. Instead of ‘diversity, equity, and inclusion’, this mindset, which a statistician could find to be 3 standard ‘deviations’ from the mean, gave us ‘division, exclusion’ and indoctrination. Lives and careers of those who refused to ‘go along’, were destroyed. Personal liberties were on the axeman’s block in total violation of the civil rights laws which a biased Biden and his minions in the DOJ refused to enforce. The well educated and informed in the social, and geopolitical sciences, know exactly what our painful world history taught us about that path. Those who sought gain from that endeavor, the braindead, low information, drag queen story hour and Bud Light beer influencer lot, were championed by the current administration, inside and out. Men who not only wore dresses, but stole other women’s clothing, were deemed worth of recognition and position. In the moments of this writing, there are efforts abroad to reverse course. There are entities, both public and private, which are being subject to the ‘go woke, go broke’ experience and are being enlightened to the fact that it was a bad deal which did not bring the silver it promised. The struggle between these two factions, and the direction it will take, maintain or detain, will be decided by the electorate this November.

    1. @zzdocl

      Indeed. I really believe they want the natural result of a communist/socialist system, which is of course, a caste society. It is something the generationally wealthy, of which there are now, though still a minority overall, many, will never truly understand.

      And really, everything Kennedy said: this is the level of disdain our modern left has for the people they supposedly represent. What they really want is to rule, and we’d better believe they will continue to mercilessly project it all onto their opposition, doing their best to eliminate them if and where possible.

      The simple fact alone that they have been successful in manipulating their own primaries with nary a whimper from anyone in their milieu should be enough to give us all very serious pause.

  10. Thank. You. Professor. Turley.

    It has reached a point for me that I rely more on the good Professor “fleshing out” a story than I do on the media.
    Media (especially network MSM evening and morning news, NBC, ABC, etc.) dutifully reported RFK Jr’s withdrawal and endorsement of Trump, (–showing a brief video of him in which he makes his most harmless, innocuous statements about withdrawal).

    What media DELETED in their reporting was the part of his speech where he calls out the very Media and the Democratic Party for their calculated, manipulative and dishonest efforts to destroy him and Trump and bring in Harris.
    -Moreover, media then IMMEDIATELY proceeded to Screen-face statements from RFK Jr’s Family dismissing him (“betrayal,” “a traitor”) and warned that he ain’t right,-
    Here is RFK Jr’s unedited speech in toto:
    https://im1776.com/2024/08/24/rfk-address-to-the-nation/
    About the ninth para down, starting with, “In the name of saving democracy, a Democratic Party set itself to dismantle it.”

    1. Lin,
      Thank you for providing the linky. I prefer to read transcripts then watch a speech.

      1. Howdy, Upstate.
        Better get your slippers and a beverage–his statement is long.
        Here is my favorite part of what he said (NOT repeated by Media):

        “Instead of showing us her substance and character, the DNC and its media organs engineered a surge of popularity for Vice President Harris based on nothing. No policies, no interviews, no debates, only smoke and mirrors and balloons in a highly-produced circus. There, in Chicago, a string of Democratic speakers mentioned Donald Trump 147 times, just on the first day. Who needs a policy when you have Trump to hate? In contrast, at the RNC convention, President Biden was mentioned only twice in four days.”

        1. Lin,
          Yeah! I topped off the coffee before I started reading his speech.
          He really called out the DNC, the media, the MIC, pharma too!
          RFK and Trump need to really promote the healthcare. RFK is totally right about the obesity and health epidemic going on in our country.

          1. @UpstateFarmer: …as well, a consolidated comment on foreign policy which resurrected memories of how the CIA overthrew Iran’s democracy. In Aug. 19, 2013, the CIA publicly admitted for the first time its involvement in the 1953 coup against Iran’s elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh. Fast forward to 2014 and the US mucking around with Ukraine’s elections, both of which have brought us to the present day. It is likely it will take another half century or more until, as with Iran, the truth of it will come to light, only after the principal puppet masters have gone to dust. Meanwhile, I envision the eyebrows of low information voters raising up in Spock like fashion while exclaiming.. “Seriously!?!?!” ‘I didn’t know that!” as they proceed to check the boxes ‘Blue’, down ballot, absent any recollection of how Forrest Gump’s mother was wont to entreat him.

        2. “Instead of showing us her substance and character, the DNC and its media organs engineered a surge of popularity for Vice President Harris based on nothing. No policies, no interviews, no debates, only smoke and mirrors and balloons in a highly-produced circus. ”

          Turley didn’t watch the DNC? Not even Kamala’s speech on the economy outlining some of her policies? The debates haven’t starred yet. Strangely Turley didn’t mention what Trump’s policies were.

          1. So then you agree her ‘substance and character’ are simply smoke and mirrors. If so, you’d be correct for a change.

            Conversely, Trump has actually guided policy for 4 years, successfully except in the cases where his own party’s traitors in league with the dnc’s swamp creatures interfered to the detriment of the nation.

            So, for you and any other wannabe dense person, Trump’s policies are ones that benefit the people, whereas harris has nothing to offer except screwing others for her own benefit – DNC S.O.P.

            1. “ Conversely, Trump has actually guided policy for 4 years, successfully except in the cases where his own party’s traitors in league with the dnc’s swamp creatures interfered to the detriment of the nation.”

              HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

              Trump? Guided? HAHAHAHAAAA!!!

              He can barely put out a coherent sentence.

          2. George: Just. Stop.
            Even you buddies at CNN and MSNBC, as well as left-leaning comedian/talk show host Jon Stewart, have numerously commented that they wished Harris had gotten into her platform, and made fun of the empty hullalaboos.

      2. “I prefer to read transcripts then watch a speech.”
        Absolutely agree. Also goes for videos in general for me.

    2. Turley works for Fox–Turley IS MEDIA. Turley “fleshes out” nothing—he echoes the lies told on Fox. No one needs anyone to “destroy” Trump–he does a good job of doing that for himself. The more Americans see of him, the more we are reminded of why we voted against him in 2016 and 2020.

  11. Dr. Robert Malone wrote an excellent Substack article regarding RFK, Jr.’s speech and endorsement.

    RFK Jr. ran a campaign based on the thesis that those identifying and voting as Democrats would be interested in political candidates representing the values and policy positions of the mid-20th century Democrat party. This was partly based on confidential polling numbers obtained and shared with me. This thesis was also based on hope. A belief that the policy positions and values imparted to him by his father and former members of his uncle’s administration still resonated with today’s Democrat party members. I infer this based on personal conversations that I have had with Mr. Kennedy and on his public statements…

    I have become convinced that a corrupt “Uniparty” runs the USA now. A functional cross-party coalition committed to the globalist “Stakeholder Capitalism/Eurosocialism/Corporatism” political vision most cogently expressed by the “World Economic Forum” and the various United Nations/World Health Organization policies and positions.

    I have become convinced that the Clinton/Obama Democrat party has become the leading domestic US political advocate for this vision. And that this modern Democrat party has become monolithic, intolerant of dissent, totalitarian. The Democrat party has come to view the US Constitution, prior US legal and organizational precedent, and fundamental rules of political engagement as inconveniences in its efforts to restructure both the federal government and the global network of US power and alliances to align and transition into a globalized socialist/corporatist governance structure.

    I believe that today’s Democrat party, and their Uniparty allies on the other side of the aisle no longer believe in the USA, in the vision of our founding fathers, but instead have become convinced that the fundamental global political structure of a network of independent and sovereign nation-states is obsolete. And that it must be replaced with a globalized one-world government modeled on Eurosocialism and strongly influenced by the Communist Chinese political and economic model.
    https://open.substack.com/pub/rwmalonemd/p/rf-kennedy-jr-and-political-realignment?r=2jwnd&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

    1. I tend to agree with this article. However, I would also throw a fair number of folks on the right as well, as embodied by the Never Trump crowd. This is not so much because Trump is some kind of savior, but because of his anti-China, pro-America rhetoric. The folks on the right that fall into this category appear to be the ones embracing all things China. Mostly, I believe, because they’re making a ton of money from it.

  12. the progressives are only interested in the totally indoctrinated tools that are their army of sycophants. They only want “true believers” in their tent – they are so much easier to control. People like RFK, or any with some functioning grey matter remaining could prove troublesome since they are always asking so many troublesome questions that require facts for answers.

  13. The two major parties are now held in low esteem by 50% of the voters. That sets the table for an unusual campaign season. Both conventions consciously reshaped image and message to appear more “centrist” while oppo-branding the other party as held in the clutches of its most extremist fringe. Of course, independents can see through these lame messaging strategies.

    What would a sincere move toward the independent center look like?

    Both hyper-partisan poles have built up a set of taboos that to them are unbreakable. For the Dems, it’s being candid about their true motives for maintaining a porous border these past 4 years, and going forward. For Repubs, it’s being candid about Trump’s misperception of 2020 “massive” election fraud, and reckless attempts to defy the Constitutional transfer of Presidential power – and being wishy-washy about restraints on Presidential power should Trump win.

    Neither camp can see their option for breaking the glass seal. What if Harris were to say:

    “The border policy Joe and I ran was too much based on political theatrics, and not meritocratic deliberation. It was a mistake to just ignore the valid criticisms. Going forward, I will appoint a non-political Presidential Commission on Effective Immigration Policy, who will revive the type of cogent analysis of the Barbara Jordan Commission (whose recommendations were not acted on), take a look at the democracies have been most successful in purpose-driven immigration policy (such as Denmark, Canada and Australia). This Commission will have 6 months to devise a legislative solution, and Congress will then be given 2 months for debate, no markup, no amendments, and a guaranteed up-down vote in both the House and the Senate. The new Commission will be staffed with Security Infrastructure Experts, skillbase analysts and “red team” experts there to poke holes and expose loopholes. Above all, this Commission will break wide open the taboo my party has clung to all these years, and force out into the open the purposes to be served by future U.S. immigration policy. No hidden agendas will survive this scrutiny.”

    What if Trump were to say:

    “The night of the election in 2020, I thought I had won based on early returns in my favor. My advisors and the cable news people were trying to tell me, “it’s too early — the absentee ballots yet to be counted are going to favor Biden” –but I became stubborn and stopped listening. Rather than being patient as candidates should do when it’s too close to call, I claimed victory based on early returns, I will add against the advice of my professional campaign team, but egged on by my inner circle. After Fox called the result for Biden, I was feeling humiliated, and started looking for evidence of cheating. Rumors to that effect poured in over the ensuing days, and I became convinced that the election had been stolen. That mental misperception caused me to embark on some, in retrospect, very questionable moves to see if anything could be done. I overreached, and the lawyers who went along with it were not strong enough to pull me back. But, I take responsibility for the overreach. Going forward, I will be conducting a 1:1 interview with a neutral, respected journalist, and answer every question honestly about what we did and why, so that it doesn’t have to be pried out of my associates by Jack Smith in court or depositions. In this interview, I will finally put the 2020 election episode out on the table, and stop the cover-up of the unflattering details. In doing so, I will hope to put this horrible chapter behind us, so we can move forward with the citizens more confident in my ability to admit to mistakes, instead of doubling-down defensively.”

    These are the glass-shattering moments the moderate center will respond very favorably to. It’s really a question of which candidate understands the opportunity to candidly address their biggest negatives. It’s a question of which candidate is more open-minded and mentally courageous. And who will take big, calculated risks to win.

    1. my question to you is; just where are these centrists/independents to go? There is no middle at this point and yet these squishy ditherers refuse to chose one side over the other, much like Woodrow Wilson before entering WWI or Neville Chamberlain hoping to find reasonable peace through accommodation. This is never a successful tactic and always fails. I just wish they would commit to either freedom/liberty or communism and be done with it since there really isn’t any alternative except in their pipe dreams.

    2. What if Harris were to say….

      What if pbinca were to say, “I’m a paid troll with multiple sock puppets and post reams of nothingness because that is what I am paid to do, other than I have nothing to contribute to Professor Turley’s articles”

    3. On the 2024 election “What if Trump were to say:” I lost because the Democrats cheated.
      And if Biden said, I cheated and that is how I won.

      They would both be correct but Pbinca objects because she doesn’t like Trump and prefers to live in a fantasy world.

    4. pbinca… failing in his attempts to self identify as a moderate: What if Trump were to say: “The night of the election in 2020, I thought I had won based on early returns in my favor.

      What if Obama/Biden had said: “Yes, Joe Biden and I took Hillary’s idea, paid for a ‘Russia Dossier’ of lies, and then went full police state fascist with it for years, first trying to rig the 2016 election and then destroy Trump’s presidency with it for the years afterwards. We sent the FBI to lie to FISA courts – and I Joe Biden was a proud part of doing that. Just as I was part of abandoning Americans to die in Benghazi.”

      What if Biden had said: “Yes, I was part of sending hundreds of lawyers headed by Marc Elias of ‘Russia Dossier’ fame to illegally change voting rules and regulations in critical battleground states when such rule changes can only be made by the elected governments of those states”

      What if Biden had said: “Yes, I’m going to make Anthony Blinken Secretary of State as his reward for successfully getting 51 former intelligence officials to lie that the family Biden Bribery Laptop was supposedly just Russian election disinformation to hide my corruption.”

      What if Biden had said; “Yes, I know I’m lying when I claim Trump said the neo-Nazis are very fine people.”

      What if Biden had said “Yes, I know I’m lying every single time I say I never knew any of my family’s Chicom and Russian partners, just as I’m lying that I never spoke with any of them nor met any of them in the Vice President’s office”.

      To use your words, pbinca: “Those would be glass-shattering moments that would destroy the Soviet Democrat party”. That would be the Soviet Democrats that you both pimp for as well as vote for as a “moderate” pbinca.

      But then, you’re just a Cheap Fake American “Moderate” Soviet Democrat. A disgusting one, regularly attempting to posture, pose and flex as a “moderate”. The very LAST thing you and the rest of the Soviet Democrats want is fair, corruption free elections and free of police state fascism leveled against your opponents.

      Easy to believe your parents claim they didn’t have any children who lived to adulthood.

  14. I too am an ex- Democrat. I switched about 25 years ago. there is NOT one thing I can identify with under the Democrat policies and beliefs. Not one. In fact, I vehemently oppose everything they now stand for.

    1. is it that you have matured or have they just run themselves into the communist ditch which was their goal since woodrow wilson was a pup?

  15. The Democrats have done their push polls and have found that Kamala’s price control desires are not playing well with the American electorate. So what is the Democratic response? She didn’t really mean it. Just like she didn’t really mean it when she said that we should ban all fracking. Then here’s this, she didn’t really mean it when she said that we should defund the police. There’s more. She didn’t really mean it when she bailed out Antifa and BLM after they burned the city. And last but not least she didn’t really mean it when she compared ice to the Ku Klux Klan. Now that there’s an election that hangs in the balance the Kameleon has declared that she will expand the number of the border patrol police that strapped the poor immigrants. Search though we may no JOY can be found in her sudden change of heart. Koniving Kameleon. William Shakespeare portrayed it best in his description of Lady Macbeth.

    1. at least Lady McBeth was her own person, this cackler is just another of obama’s puppets to give him his 4th term.

    2. “I’m running for President”. “No, I’m not. I didn’t really mean it”.

      Too much to hope for, eh?

  16. It was an excellent speech. Between Nancy’s shenanigans like ripping up the speech, all the lawfare, COVID, the ‘summer of love’, what’s happened to education and corporate culture, all of the harassment, the impeachments, trials, censorship, the assassination attempt, inflation, an economy pushed to the brink, quality of life in decline literally everywhere, the media capitulation – the lurch toward not just far-left progressivism, but tyrannical communism/socialism/fascism has all but guaranteed the American dem party would fracture, eventually; may many more who prefer a representative party rather than an extension of an authoritative globalist one find their courage. It’s time.

    1. James: Nice comment.
      “It’s time.”
      No, we’re late. Remember the old, “All dressed up and nowhere to go…? ” We’ve got somewhere to go.
      I know from your comments that we better not sit back in our armchairs and just watch the show.

  17. Wake up call to the party? Are you kidding? RFK, Jr. Is a ‘Nazi’ too, as are you JT.

    antonio

    1. There you go again….You do realize the slogan of “Joyful warrior” came from the Nazi’s, right?

    2. @antonio

      Agreed. The party is too far gone to save, the globalists own them (the identical nature of narratives across countries simply can’t be coincidence). I’m hoping there’s still a chance for voters while our laws are semi-intact, though.

  18. Some very nice comments today.
    I am just waiting for the Professor’s statement as to when he will become an Independent.
    I was 12 in 1960 and loved JFK but I could not vote for him but in 1968 I was able to vote for Hubert Humphrey, a very honorable liberal and good man but voted for Nixon in 1972 (because McGovern was a fool), But went with Carter in 1976 and 1980 but I have not voted Democratic since. Carter was an excellent governor of Georgia and I was raised there and liked him. What disturbed me was how much he was attacked and roughed up by the National Democratic Party in Washington. He was not welcomed and a lot of people forget that. By 1982 I was totally with Reagan and never looked back.
    I should have been a lifelong democrat. The only real Republican I knew growing up was my paternal grandfather who had a small insurance agency and hated FDR. The rest on both sides were non college educated working men and women and poor South Georgia farmers who slowly lifted themselves up.
    The Democrats still got the working man’s vote and votes of the poor in the 80’s and 90’s but they were already abandoning them. They built their party on the poor, the disadvantaged , the working men and women, and then they threw them to the wolves.
    The Democrats pursued the false promise of the more and more radical left wing, globalism, and unfettered immigration (that has devastated the middle and lower class) and power at any cost. They are unashamed about what they have done and barely even pay lip service to those people anymore.
    Frankly I think of the Democrats as having betrayed the people that they pitch their lies to.

    1. GEB, voting for Carter in 1976 is understandable, voting for him after his 4 years of maladministration is unforgivable. Watching his UN Ambassador, watching his weakness in the Middle East, watching his so-called epiphany vis a vis the Soviets, watching his disdain for Israel, watching his economic failures, watching his weakness towards Iran all turned my into a raging Reaganite and I have never looked back.

      I remember election night in 1980 and how much I was sweating it out hoping for a Reagan win and then basking in the glow of that win and it ended up being an election that saved the country and the world. In 2020 we had another such election (no, I do not think that Trump is Reagan) and we lost that one and we have paid dearly We have another America hating ambassador at the UN, we have another weakling vis a vis our gravest threat, we have another energy killer, we have another Iran lover and we have been weakened immeasurably.

      2024 stands as another such election only this time the stakes are even greater due to 4 years of weakening on top of our biggest threat actually being more powerful economically and potentially militarily than the old Soviets. Adding another 4 years of weakening and anti-Americanism and anti-capitalism will lead us to a path that we may not recover from.

      1. Thank you hullbobby. Most of the time time, like today, you make very cogent and succinct statements that don’t need any edification. Watching a number of elections since the 90’s, I fina myself cringing as I watch our media and political parties manipulation of our ever growing educationally deprived citizenship. I find myself voting for the lesser evil. This election I’m voting, I believe, for the salvation of our country. But I’m also wishing, in a lot of respects, that I could be in my late 70’s or 80’s, I’m 66 yoa, so that I don’t have to see what is being wrought on us by our governmental and corporate corruption of what made our country one of the greatest of all times. I pray that DJT wins and I am encouraged by RFK, Jr has to say. I’m also encouraged by what others like Tulsi Gabbard and Lt Governor Winsome Sears have to say. We need to make a place for them to sit at the table.

      2. HullBobby,
        Well said and I agree.
        We need to call out the Democrat party for what they have become, the anti-America party. The anti-free speech party. The anti-women’s rights party. The anti-parents rights party. The anti-meritocracy party. The anti-health party. The anti-democracy party.

      3. “voting for Carter in 1976 is understandable, voting for him after his 4 years of maladministration is unforgivable.”

        Jimmy Carter seemed to be a sincerely nice guy, and seemed to do OK as the governor of Georgia. I say “seemed” because I have close relatives who were from the same part of Georgia (and who were generally not disposed to lying) who swore to me that he was an unmitigated eternal stiff penis. He was clearly out of his depth as President regardless of the truth or falsity of that contention.

      4. Well sometimes it’s difficult to give up something you like while you are in transition and you can make errors, as I did but he was a good governor, compared to what we had before, and dragged the state forward to where it needed to be and broke it from a very racist past. Not everyone agreed. Still think his presidential time could have been helped by some in his own party in the senate and house. He was seen more as an outsider and someone to be removed quickly rather than build up the party around him. Anyway I left in 1982 it does not matter anymore.

  19. So when will Professor Turley finally say that he is no longer wishes to be a member of the Democratic Party?

    1. I imagine he is still aligned with what the Democrats once were, before they became evil.

      1. So he is a political party unto himself? How is that different from being an independent?

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