Hillary Clinton has long been one of the most anti-free speech figures in American politics, including calling upon European officials to force Elon Musk to censor American citizens under the infamous Digital Services Act (DSA). She is now suggesting the arrest of Americans who spread what she considers disinformation. It is a crushingly ironic moment since it was her campaign that funded the infamous Steele dossier and spread false stories of Russian collusion during her presidential campaign. Presumably, that disinformation would not be treated as criminal viewpoints.
Speaking on MSNBC’s The Rachel Maddow Show this week, Clinton was asked about continued allegations of Russian efforts to disseminate Russian propaganda in the United States. Clinton responded:
“I think it’s important to indict the Russians, just as Muller indicted a lot of Russians who were engaged in direct election interference and boosting Trump back in 2016. But I also think there are Americans who are engaged in this kind of propaganda. And whether they should be civilly or even in some cases criminally charged is something that would be a better deterrence, because the Russians are unlikely, except in a very few cases, to ever stand trial in the United States.”
The interview was chillingly consistent with Clinton long antagonism toward free speech.
Clinton, of course, was not challenged by Maddow on the fact that her campaign was the conduit for disinformation linked to Russian intelligence services.
Not only did U.S. intelligence believe that the Clinton campaign was used to make the debunked claims, but it was clearly done for purely political purposes.
Clinton efforts were so obvious by July 2016 that former CIA Director John Brennan briefed former President Obama on Hillary Clinton’s alleged “plan” to tie then-candidate Donald Trump to Russia as “a means of distracting the public from her use of a private email server.” The Russian investigation was launched days after this briefing.
Her general counsel, Marc Elias, his former partner Michael Sussmann, and the campaign were later found involved in not just spreading the false claims from the Steele dossier but other false stories like the Alfa Bank conspiracy claim.
It was Elias who managed the legal budget for the campaign. We now know that the campaign hid the funding of the Steele dossier as a legal expense.
New York Times reporter Ken Vogel said that Elias denied involvement in the anti-Trump dossier. When Vogel tried to report the story, he said that Elias “pushed back vigorously, saying ‘You (or your sources) are wrong.’” Times reporter Maggie Haberman declared, “Folks involved in funding this lied about it, and with sanctimony, for a year.”
Elias was also seated next to John Podesta, Clinton’s campaign chairman, when he was asked about the role of the campaign, he denied categorically any contractual agreement with Fusion GPS. Even assuming that Podesta was kept in the dark, the Durham Report clearly shows that Elias knew and played an active role in pushing this effort.
The Clinton campaign lied to the media, spread false claims of Russian disinformation, and was accused of being a conduit for Russian intelligence. So would the “better deterrence” have been for Clinton herself to be arrested?
Sussmann ultimately did stand trial but was acquitted. Notably, John Durham noted that “no one at Fusion GPS … would agree to voluntarily speak with the Office” while both the DNC and Clinton campaign invoked privileges to refuse to answer certain questions.
For a person who is on her fourth memoir, Clinton is remarkably hostile to free speech. Notably, in all of these memoirs, she does not address her prominent role in calling for the censorship and now arrest of those with opposing views. She also does not discuss how her campaign lied to the media and funded the Steele dossier. Perhaps that is coming in the fifth memoir.
What is clear is that Clinton herself has no fear that such prosecution would ever await her. She is one of those who may silence others but not be silenced. The public is to be protected from views that she deemed disinformation, misinformation, or malinformation.
To that end, as one of the guardians of truth, Clinton chastised the media for not being more consistently anti-Trump, a daunting prospect since the media has been accused of running almost 90 percent negative stories on Trump.
Nevertheless, shortly after the second assassination attack on Trump, Clinton called Trump a danger to the world and added that “I don’t understand why it’s so difficult for the press to have a consistent narrative about how dangerous Trump is.”
Ideally, between the arrests of those accused of disinformation and an effective state media, Clinton hopes to rein in errant thoughts and viewpoints.
In the interview, Maddow did not have even a slight objection to the implications of arresting people with criminal viewpoints. Censorship and criminal prosecutions are such mainstream concepts that they are as unsurprising as a fourth Clinton memoir.
Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. He is the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage” (Simon & Schuster).
A few weeks ago, I was disappointed that no one engaged me in conversation over my mention of “stochastism” and “stochastic terrorism.”
Even Wikipedia correctly describes it as (here, George and Gigi–I saved you a visit to that site):
“political violence that has been instigated by hostile public rhetoric that is directed at a group or an individual. Unlike incitement to terrorism, stochastic terrorism is accomplished by using indirect, vague, or coded language that allows the instigator to plausibly disclaim responsibility for the resulting violence.”
Read that last sentence again:
“…is accomplished by using indirect, vague, or coded language that allows the instigator to plausibly disclaim responsibility for the resulting violence.”
I read something more recently, can’t recall where, in which it is posited that political stochastics rely on stimulating the human emotion of “disgust.” Accordingly, it can take on very subtle, even subliminal characteristics in the way that such speech constantly refers to the targeted person or group in ways to cause or stimulate “disgust.”
What politicians (past and present), educators, and Hollywood/Entertainment figures come to mind?
LIn, it appears that you have discovered a rationale behind Trump’s approach to conveying his subconscious expectations to others.
…”by using indirect, vague, or coded language that allows the instigator to plausibly disclaim responsibility for the resulting violence.”
This perfectly reflects Trump’s language. It’s a convenient and cowardly way for someone to avoid taking responsibility.
“It’s a convenient and cowardly way for someone to avoid taking responsibility.”
LOL you never cease to amaze.
What happened to trump’s tariffs?
They’re timing out through they’re sunsetting guidelines.
The once-dominant Republican party of William Buckley—Svelaz-George
Svelaz,
My god man, do you wake up each morning, thinking “what is the most ignorant thing I can say today”?
William Buckley’s Firing Line ran from 1966 to 1999. He founded National Review in 1955.
Lets see, during that time, DEMOCRATS held the House of Representatives for FORTY STRAIGHT YEARS (1955 to 1995)
During that time, DEMOCRATS controlled the Senate for 18 of the 22 Congresses, including a run of TWENTY SIX STRAIGHT YEARS.
That is some kinda Republican dominance right there boy. You really should read more and type less.
oh. he reads. he just doesn’t comprehend. He just plagiarizes it.
It’s pretty remarkable how that completely flew over you.
Old firing line programs are not extant. AI generated programs are. Handiwork
Svelaz
Thanks for again obliging this response.
“Muslims in this country are an existential threat to our Democracy and way of life”
“It’s on us to recognize the threat Muslims pose.”
“Does one of us [he and Omar] have to come out alive?”
“Muslims are a genuine threat to this nation …They are literally a threat to everything America stands for”
“Omar and the Muslims represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic … and that is a threat to this country.”
And here’s what should be your favorite
“Muslims are destructive to our democracy and …They have to be eliminated”
Obviously, these were not statements made by Ted Cruz. And they weren’t about Muslims. Maybe you’d like a shot at assigning the origination? Pro tip, some of them have been repeated over and over by several democrats.
Or maybe you like Rick Wilson’s honesty better “They’re still going to have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump.”
‘George’,
or someone could just say it straight out
like Biden with his “Trump in a bulls-eye” comment.
Lin,
I do recall your comment on stochastic terrorism.
Since the second assassination attempt on Trump, possibly a third now, it has been noted the stochastic rhetoric has not abated. For that matter, democrats seem to be upping it. They claim he is threat and then either will not say how, or make up some really outlandish things that read like a BlueAnon conspiracy theory.
As for the “political stochastics rely on stimulating the human emotion of “disgust.” I think you pointed that out when you called Gigi out with her use of phrases like “fat hog,” and others. Clearly she has been brainwashed by the political stochastics as they play on her ID emotions that any sensible, emotionally mature person does not allow to rule their judgement.
Just recently Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna (R) of Florida posted on X, “My office has received a very serious shooting threat.” “This division and hate campaign against Republicans is going to get someone killed.”
I have to wonder if any of the stochastic terrorism by prominent Democrats like Clinton is fueling this escalation of violence?
https://justthenews.com/government/congress/florida-rep-luna-says-her-office-received-serious-shooting-threat
Silva mind control
* as in Biden’s —> Trump in the bullseye? Didn’t he say that? Then Trump was shot?
* thanks for stochastic. It’s slipped into radio programs depending upon location I’ve noticed it. Yes, disgust.
OT, but important to the escalating violence some are trying to normalize against Republicans,
Florida Rep. Luna says her office received a ‘serious shooting threat’
“My office has received a very serious shooting threat,” Luna wrote on the social media platform, X. “This division and hate campaign against Republicans is going to get someone killed.”
https://justthenews.com/government/congress/florida-rep-luna-says-her-office-received-serious-shooting-threat
So, she’s worried about the rhetoric? But it’s free speech. Turley argues that the best way to counter it is with more free speech. It’s ironic how Republicans suddenly seem to be concerned about the effect that rhetoric can have when they are on the receiving end. Victimhood anyone?
AMERICAN PSYCHO!
I have often wondered who in their right mind would care what an ‘Old Bitty’ said about anything. Now, not to diminish the ‘Old Bitty’s’ stature in the Leftist Clicks of Ninnies, her demeanor suffers from Defeat.
George W,
The problem is she had a whole following, chanting “Its her turn!” like a cult.
She is the one who when she lost, declared, “Resist!”
To this day, she uses violent rhetoric against Trump. How much as this rhetoric fueled the would be assassins and even the newest incident today?
BREAKING: “Sources in the Nassau County Police Department just told me that “the perimeter was breached and a blue barrel was removed” from the area surrounding tonight’s Trump rally site.
Source said “During K9, doing their checks, they found an explosive device in one of the vehicles and…”
— James Lalino (@JamesLalino) September 18, 2024
“I think it’s also critical to understand that, as I’ve been telling candidates who have come to see me, you can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you,”
— H Clinton, 5, May, 2019
In Other Future News: “One Hour After President Signs into Law a Bill Criminalizing Lies and MIsinformation, Judge Issues Bench Warrant for Each Member of Congress.”
~+~
Congress came to regret its decision to make the spread of lies and misinformation a felony AND a breach of the peace when the court found probable cause that every Member of Congress instictively lied about something a minute after the President signed the bill into law.
A District Court held…
“The Court finds that defendants were not only incapable of telling the truth, they could not even bring themselves to tell the truth when asked ordinary questions about trivial matters. The Court also establishes that being a Member of Congress alone is prima facie evidence of violating the act.”
“to tell the truth when asked ordinary questions about trivial matters.”
This is one indicator of a “pathological liar”. We have many of those commenting here.
Breaking News: DNC Cult Leader Claims “Kidnapping for Enlightenment” as Children Go Missing
In a shocking revelation that has left the community of Harmonyville reeling, local DNC cult leader and self-proclaimed “Bitter Hag,” Hillary Clinton has been accused of orchestrating a series of bizarre kidnappings under the guise of “saving democracy.” Parents are in a frenzy as reports surface of children mysteriously disappearing after attending Hillary’s “Defending Democracy” seminars.
“I thought it was just an educational event for the kids,” said distraught parent and former Hillary follower, Lolla Palooza. “But when I went to pick up Timmy, all I found was a sign that said, ‘Gone to brainwash your children. Back never!’ I mean, who does that?”
Witnesses claim that Hillary Clinton, known for her histrionic outbursts, self-aggrandizement and need to be at the center of attention, has been luring children with promises of unlimited gender affirming hormones and the chance to learn the “ancient art of evil.” “She told them they could rule the universe,” said one concerned neighbor. “I thought she meant meditation, not abducting them to her secret lair in the woods!”
DOJ leaders have launched an investigation, but Hillary does no wrong when it comes to the DOJ.
Local law enforcement is taking the situation seriously, with Chief Officer Chuck “The Skeptic” McGraw stating, “We’re treating this like any other kidnapping case, but we’re also keeping an eye out for any suspicious bitter, angry looking old hags. You never know what kind of acid they might be spewing!”
In a bizarre twist, a group of children who managed to escape Hillary’s clutches reported that they were taken to a “Spiritual Retreat” where they were forced to participate in mandatory pronoun sessions and listen to hours of woke speeches about the benefits of anti-racism. “It was awful,” said 9-year-old Billy. “I just wanted to play video games, not meditate with a bunch of Karens!”
As the investigation continues, parents are being urged to keep their children away from any DNC gatherings that promise free gender affirming hormones and fashionable accessories, compliments of a non-binary kleptomaniac with a penchant for other peoples luggage. “If you see a sign that says ‘Free Testosterone / Estrogen,’ just run the other way,” advised local psychologist Dr. Mindy Clear. “Trust me, it’s not worth the gender dysphoria.”
In response to the crisis, the town has organized a “Kid Safety Day,” complete with workshops on how to spot cult-like behavior and a bake sale featuring “Anti-DNC Cookies” (which are, thankfully, just regular cookies with Bible quotes.)
Stay tuned for updates on this developing story, and remember: if it sounds too good to be true, it probably involves a DNC cult!
/s
Estovir,
Awesome!
😎
Estovir-amazing and hysterical. This could be a campaign commercial but I suspect the DNC brains would explode or their pagers.
….or their pagers
Oh Lawdy, he went there!
👍🏽
GEB,
HA! Good one!
Add to that their walkie talkies. How does one blow up the telegraph device __ _ __?
Estovir: One of your best. see my note to Darren!
p.s. as an afterthought, send me the name of the bake sale hosts. I’ll donate a couple of in-your-face pies, sleezecake,
and maybe some walnut brownshirtees, a few suga’ Combs.
“Hillary Clinton… has been luring children…”
Maybe Bill passed on to her some of the stuff that Jeffrey Epstein taught him…
Yesterday, Karrine Jean Pierre told Peter Doocey that his question regarding her, Biden, and Kamala’s continued use of the word “threat”, in describing Trump, was “dangerous”.
That pretty much sums up the the left.
Makes me wonder even more, what Seth Rich (R.I.P.) had on H.R.C.
Rashida Tlaib Uninjured After Her Pager Mysteriously Explodes
https://babylonbee.com/news/rashida-tlaib-uninjured-after-her-pager-mysteriously-explodes
[Clinton] Not only must You eat our Propaganda, You must do so with your mouth shut and a smile on your face, or else.
Kamala Harris is a Fraud [.]
I call for the arrest, prosecution, and execution of Motor Mouth Hillary, the Murderous Hildebeast.
“You’re killing me Smalls”. Oh the irony – it’s lethal what lies come from the left….They must all be sociopaths to be able to lie so easily and still sleep at night.
Maybe we need a “Ministry of Truth” to enforce such laws?
Just waiting on the first s@@tlib to explain why we need to arrest people spreading “disinformation” and call everyone opposed to this a “nazi”.
antonio
Kamala Harris: Just because you legally possess a gun in the sanctity of your locked home, doesn’t mean that we [the government] are not going to walk into that home and check to see if you’re being responsible and safe in the way you conduct your affairs.
https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1836429342806806920
“Shall not be abridged”… does that even resonate in their vapid noggins?
You just beat me to posting that.
Thats not all. She continued with this:
When we create laws, it’s not only about creating an opportunity, if you will, to prosecute someone for committing a crime, but more importantly, when we legislate our values, it’s about trying to encourage certain types of behavior
And they claim Trump is dangerous.
DDC,
That screams “cult!”
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED—PERIOD—IN ANY PERSONAGE, IN ANY WAY, IN ANY ERA.
Who will stop Obama and Harris from “fundamentally transforming the United States of America,” a treasonous high crime, and overturning fundamental law?
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
“If not us, who? If not now, when?”
– Ronald Reagan
____________________
2nd Amendment
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Sounds like a Socialist Marxist plan by a wannabe tyrant to me!
Charlie Kirk is known for cherry-picking and posting out-of-context statements. He should have posted the entire conversation instead of a convenient snippet.
Svelaz, can you prove Kirk is known for cherry-picking out-of-context statements? No. Then why did you say it? Provide the rest of the comment and explain why the statement is out of context.
It is clear. You are an ignorant liar.
Whether under the bright light of the sun or hidden in total darkness, the words and deeds of dear ‘ol Hillary are very, VERY R I C H .
Prof Turley states, “We now know that the campaign hid the funding of the Steele dossier as a legal expense.” I certainly hope that DJT and his legal team are arguing this line in a “targeting” appeal in regards to his own case of false business records to New York state. The fact that HRC has not and will never be prosecuted for a contemporaneous act so similar and arguably more politically egregious than that of DJT clearly demonstrates the targeting by Bragg of DJT for Bragg’s novel legal theory that magically turns a misreporting misdemeanor into a felony. In this case what is good for the goose should be good for the gander from DJT’s perspective or vice versa from the perspective of consistent legal practice of the NYC district attorney’s office.
AN there is no “misreporting”
As noted Clinton used Campaign funds. Trump did NOT.
Nor did Trump “report” anything incorrectly. Bragg has tried Trump for allegedly misrepresenting the catagory of a business expense in his own private records.
Not has tax returns, not in filings to government.
The CORE Bragg claim is that Trump committed a crime by not catagorizing an expense in purely private records in the way Bragg wished.
This has been absurd from the start.
Trump was NOT required to even have the records that Brag is claiming are false – though most businesses do.
Trump could drop a tractor trailer full of receipts on his accountants at the end of each year and tell them to get it all sorted for taxes.
Larger businesses tend not to do that – though I have 4 small bussinesses and I no longer keep the records Trump is accused of misrecording.
Because I can download what I need from the bank each april.
John, the jury and evidence contradict your misconception.
“ Trump was NOT required to even have the records that Brag is claiming are false – though most businesses do.”
According to New York law, he was obligated to maintain those records. He has been convicted of falsifying records, and the evidence unequivocally supports it. No level of denial can alter that fact.
“and the evidence unequivocally supports it”
And you were doing so well until THAT.
You can’t help yourself.
“…records Trump is accused of misrecording.
Slight segue: Merchan has delayed sentencing Trump, apparently until after the election. Do you suspect that his delay is a ploy to create some cause for refusal to confirm, impeachment, or other expulsion from office should Trump prevail in November (assuming the Dims retain enough support in Congress to do so)?
“HRC has not and will never be prosecuted for a contemporaneous act so similar and arguably more politically egregious”
If Trump is elected, why the Hell not? What is the statute of limitations on the applicable crime(s)?
Anna Kilgore, the woman from Springfield, Ohio who reported to the police that her Haitian neighbors had abducted and eaten her cat, found the cat days later in her own basement.
So, we can now focus on excess murder, rape, crime, displacement, and climate change amid immigration reform. Progress.
That said, emigration reform to mitigate progress and collateral damage at both ends of the bridge and throughout.
The Wall Street Journal also reported that, on Tuesday, Vance’s campaign gave them the name of a woman who claimed a Haitian had indeed taken her cat in August.
The Journal arrived Tuesday evening to find the cat, Miss Sassy, had been found a few days later and her owner Anna Kilgore had apologized to her Haitian neighbors, the report showed.
Conservative commentator Pedro L. Gonzalez vented his frustration over what he described as a poorly mishandled narrative delivered by Vance.
“The Springfield lady who called the police when she suspected Haitians of eating her missing cat found the cat safe in her basement and then apologized to her Haitian neighbors for starting a rumor that became a GOP talking point,” Gonzalez wrote.
Washington Post columnist Catherine Rampell condemned Vance in more blunt terms.
“Vance’s team actually did look into the rumor, and was told unequivocally that it was BS,” she summarized. “Vance amplified it anyway.”
Democratic political strategist Simon Rosenberg raised concerns about what Vance’s willingness to amplify untrue stories — sourced to far right activists and neo-Nazis — said about his fitness to lead from the White House.
“If Vance is willing to lie and unleash hell on his own constituents for what he believed was political gain,” Rosenberg asked, “what does that say about he would be willing to do to the country?”
Anonymous: thank you. it is becoming obvious that Trump and Vance are desperate to change the narrative away from Trump’s disasterous debate performance and chickening out of further debates, plus Harris’s rise in the polls by the “cat and dog eating Haitian” story–plus, it’s two-fer–they get in a few racist licks, too.
Kayla Hamilton
Laken Riley
Melissa Powell
Jocelyn Nungaray
Lizbeth Medina
Rachel Morin
Aiden Clark
13yo girl in Queens
Shannon Jungwirth
14 yo girl Ft Walton Beach
15 yo girl Rockland, MA
11 yo girl Lake Worth, FL
Every single one of these were invited in by Biden/Harris. Here are a few more of the fine people Biden/Harris invited.
Victor Hernandez Martinez – Raped a woman in Texas (2021).
Edgar Alexander Ramos – Assaulted two women (2022).
Joel Bautista Diaz – Raped a minor in Pennsylvania (2023).
Jose Lopez Lopez – Charged with child rape in Florida (2021).
Luis Salmeron – Raped a woman in California (2022).
Carlos A. Carrillo – Assaulted a 15-year-old (2021).
I just asked Chatgpt for a list of at least 100 of these crimes by illegals. After listing 100, it immediately removed the list and replaced it with the statement “This is harmful content”
* Yes, death is so final and grief an eternity.
* good thing George Floyd wasn’t killed on that schoolbus in Springfield. The names you’ve written get nothing but a few mentions. Thank you for writing them.
Oh dear intelligent lawyer, did you mean “disastrous?” that was no typo.
The day Gigenius is a lawyer is the day I’m a goddam astronaut—Lt Dan
Did you see her response yesterday?
She challenged me to “prove she’s not”. LOL Like she doesn’t prove it every day.
Notice she won’t repeat her false claim.
So, in her deluded mind, she is a lawyer because I can’t prove she’s not. Bwahahahahahaha sounds about right.
Gigi, Trump did fine, and is not looking to change the narrative – most of us observed the obvious bias in the moderation of the debate.
But since we are learning it went far beyond the still WRONG unconscious bias of the journalists, to some not yet fully established actual deliberate conspiracy.
We KNOW that Harris lied like a rug – but was not fact checked AT ALL. The one sided fact checking was egrergious.
WE KNOW as one of the moderators has SAID SO, that it was a conscious choice by ABC to agreessively fact check Trump and not fact check Harris – not merely a crude expression of subconscious bias.
But we also have a whistleblower who has provided a sworn afadavit, that ABC negotiated with Harris to give her advantages, without involving the Trump campaign as is required.
Harris was NOT asked any tought questions – ABC allegedly promised her campaign there would be no tough questions.
Harris allegedly identified Specific questions that were off limits.
ABC Allegedly provided Harris sample questions prior to the debate that were very similar to the actual questions. They did not do that for Trump. Regardless a debate is not an open book test.
ABC also allegedly rigged the environment to make Trump look Bad and Harris look good.
Several lighting experts have noted that ABC lit Trump badly and Harris quite well. This made Trump appear washed, angry and Dull while Harris appear vital and alive. Again it is the obligation of the host to provide a level playing field.
There were numerous negotiatiosn between Harris and ABC that Trump was not apart of – that is a major violation of journalistic ethics.
No Trump in not trying to change the narrative away from the debate – the debate went Fine for him.
Atleast 6 in 10 independents polled shifted to lean Trump after the debate while only 3:10 shiften to lean Harris.
Trump did not hit a home run – he never does. He had great moments and less good ones. But he did fine.
Harris succeeded in avoiding total disaster, but failed to provide potential voters with any substance to a Harris presidency.
Biden was elected based on a past reputation as a blue collar moderate. He failed working class voters as president.
Harris sought to assure voters that she is middle class – which is false – the child of two tenured Berkeley porofessors is NOT middle class – nor is anyone growing up in here neighborhood. Harris is entitled to be proud of where she came from. But lying about it is not pride,
it is appropriation. It is fake it is not authentic.
It is also a script – Harris said the same things – nearly verbatim in and evasion of a different question the next day in a solo interview.
Trump is a known quantity. Trump can have a great debate or a loudy one – it will not matter. Voters know what they are buying with Trump. Harris is asking independents to take another flyer – that did not work well with Obama, It worked even worse with Biden.
You can hope they will do it again, but that is not likely.
Harris failed at her most important goal with this debate – informing voters of how she would govern – her policies.
Excerpted from “Newsweek”: ” CNN’s flash poll revealed 63 percent of viewers thought Harris won the debate, compared to 37 percent who said the same about Trump. A week later, polling still shows that Harris won the debate, and that Harris is ahead of Trump nationally.” From “The Hill”:
“Vice President Harris is leading former President Trump nationally by 6 points, according to a polling released a week after the first debate between the major party nominees.
The Morning Consult survey, published Tuesday, found Harris garnered 51 percent support among likely voters — her highest margin to date — compared to Trump’s 45 percent. Some 2 percent said they would prefer someone else, while another 2 percent had no opinion. The vice president’s lead is outside the survey’s margin of error. ”
I don’t know what poll you are referring to because you don’t cite it.
What was the “obvious bias”–other than in Hannity’s head? Trump was fact-checked because he LIED about post-birth abortion, which does not exist and about Haitian migrants stealing and eating house pets in Springfield, Ohio. Do you think that a responsible journalist should just let egregious lies like this go unchallenged? The claim about post-birth abortion amounts to accusing doctors of committing deliberate murder. Both of these lies could get people killed. The lie about Haitians in Springfield, OH has caused schools and hospitals to close due to bomb threats and the National Guard has been called in. Trump lied about these people being “illegal”, and has said he wants to go there–Springfield doesn’t want him–he’s caused enough trouble. He claims that he will immediately deport all of the Haitians in Springfield–they are there legally–he can’t do that–just another lie like his made up claims of no tax on tips and Social Security benefits and overtime. The effect of these things on our budge haven’t been vetted and won’t pass Congress.
WHERE is the proof of collusion between ABC and Harris? Do you have any, or are just just repeating MAGA media talking points? What are you talking about when it comes to lighting? The debate was at a public hall–not ABC studios. Harris’s parents divorced when she was very young and she was raised by her mother, who wasn’t able to afford to buy a house until Harris was in high school. What MAGA media told you she was not middle class? Harris did a marvelous job of explaining her priorities and policies. The polls show that.
Trump got crushed and in the aftermath the betting markets on the upcoming election shifted to forecasting a 400 electoral college count for Harris with her taking ALL the battleground states.
” the betting markets on the upcoming election”
Two days ago Nate SIlver, who founded fivethirtyeight.com, and who personally is anything but a Republican or a conservative, set the odds of a Trump win at 61%… I don’t have the link at my fingertips, but it may have been on Mish Shedlock’s blog site.
😂😂you’re killing us!
Keep going!
Psssst, here’s a secret…America knows Kamala is a fraud and an incompetent boob!
I wouldn’t call that a debate. In a debate you would address a topic with your position and the opposition would then provide rebuttal with counter argument. I never saw her answer one policy question or respond to a rebuild with a valid argument. It was a hit job of lies and personal attacks by three against Trump. That’s my take, it was a Chit Show and American people know it, she won nothing.
ATS you are making a huge deal out of a SINGLE incorrect report. There have been several.
Vance alone has been receiving reports for more than a year.
Further Vance received a complaint from a constituent – actually Many over the course of a year.
Are you saying that it is the job of Senators to conduct investigations of the veracity of their constituents ?
Vance says he refered these claims to local authorities and they never reported back to him.
Only in left wing nut world is someone lying if they report that a claim has been made prior to personally conducting an investigation.
How is Vance unleashing hell on his constituents ? He fielded complaints from constituents, forwarded to local authorities and made the complaints public.
His constituents are already in the Hell that Biden Harris created by bumping 20,000 illegal immigrants on them.
There are many many other problems being reported – higher insurance, increases in accidents, Municipal services failing because they are way over capacity, rents rising. Wages dropping, crime rising, drug addiction and overdoses rising.
But you, the left and the media only paid attention when Cats were being harmed.
John Say,
Well said.
I think it was An Old Man and I who also brought up the additional issues the town and the local people were having. But the left and MSM dont want to talk about those. Might highlight another one of Biden “bright” ideas that failed.
*** and Aiden Clarke was not found alive in any basement but dead in a schoolbus on the 1st day of school.
Yes, but it was hiding from the Haitians.
So ? Do you think this is based on a single claim ? Separately – Source ?
You left out the part, she also found four illegal intruders huddled above a bbq feasting on her poor beloved puss.
* *** and the woman run over and killed reported to no one. Her loved ones did the reporting.
Thank you, Jonathan Turley (I think) for reminding us that the depressing persona of Hillary Clinton still hovers hauntingly above us and that MSNBC and Rachel Maddow may still be relevant if only to the most zealous of illiberal progressives.
For its next assessment of threats the Chicago Project on Security and Threats should survey whether Americans should be civilly or even criminally charged for providing and sharing information the Administrative State arbitrarily decrees is misinformation. While the censorship efforts the State and its corporate partners practice tells us enough about the ominous direction America’s democracy is headed, a survey that might indicate 26 million Americans agree with such prosecutions and another 58 million Americans ambivalent about it should cause the rest of us to ponder where we are ultimately headed and begin to get a grip on it. Will the Constitution be
willingly surrendered to demagoguery or will a second revolution be waged to keep it?
Thank God Hillary was not elected President in 2016. And we should thank Donald Trump too.
Jonathan Turley neglects to mention that the first thing Trump did after winning the 2016 election was to accuse Hillary Clinton of receiving millions of illegal votes. During the 2016 election campaign,Trump repeatedly insisted our country is incapable of holding free & fair elections. Three weeks before the election, Trump said “Of course there is large scale voter fraud happening on and before election day.”
After calling Obama an illegitimate president with a fake birth certificate, Trump has spent the past 9 years making false claims about large scale voter fraud & continues to insist he won the 2020 election. Trump’s party has censured Republican Governors, Secretaries of State & other election official for certifying election results after multiple recounts.
Always look forward to Jonathan Turley’s deft expertise at singling out & flagging false claims, disinformation, misinformation, & malinformation.
We have a problem with Trust in our elections. That is NOT ever the results of what candidates SAY.
It is a result of the poor and untrustworthy way we conduct them. And that falls on those who run the elections.
We have moved to voting methods that can not be secured, can not be transparent, and that violate the secret ballot requirement that is the foundation for trustworthy elections.
Hillary is still ranting that Trump stole the election – and there were riots in DC from hillary supporters.
Trump’s “Plan” to address election fraud in congress was nearly identical to what Hillary and Lawrence Tribe concocted.
Regardless if you want people to trust elections – conduct elections that can be trusted.
It is that simple.
While it is certain that Obama was born in Hawaii – there remain legitimate questions about Obama’s birth ciertificate.
Regardless the claim that Obama was NOT born in the US came first from Sydney Bluementhal in the Clinton campaign – not Trump.
Just as the corruption charges regarding Biden came from Clinton initially.
If that’s certain then GiGi is a lawyer. Obama’s Hawaiian certificate of live birth was proven to be a forgery by Joe Arpiao and an FBI forensic forgery expert. Further, Obama’s mother was a minor at the time of his birth, the alleged father an adult of British citizenship, this was a HRC/Philip Berg argument putforth at the time. From what I remember, immigration laws assign the citizenship of the adult to the child. He NEVER provided sufficient proof and if he were a citizen he would have committed student foreign loan fraud. He’s a Marxist fraud.