Below is my column in the Hill on the historic defense of free speech by Vice President J.D. Vance in Munich last week. Where John F. Kennedy went to Berlin to declare “Ich bin ein Berliner,” Vance went in Munich to declare a type of “Ich bin ein Amerikanisch.” He spoke of free speech as an American with a power and clarity that is unrivaled in modern times. As expected, he is being attacked by Europeans and many in this country on the left. However, his speech was a tour de force of our core values.
Here is the column:
In “Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and Culture in Crisis,” J.D. Vance wrote, “I don’t believe in transformative moments, as transformation is harder than a moment.”
Despite that profound point, on Feb. 14, Vance found that transformative moment.
Speaking to European leaders at the Munich Security Conference, he shocked his audience by confronting them over their attacks on free speech in the West.
For the free speech community, it was truly Churchillian — no less than the famous Iron Curtain speech in which Churchill dared the West to confront the existential dangers of communism.
Roughly 80 years after Churchill’s speech, Vance called our allies to account not for the growing threat from countries like Russia or China, but from themselves. To a clearly shocked audience, Vance declared that he was not worried about “external actors” but “the threat from within the retreat of Europe from some of its most fundamental values, values shared with the United States of America.”
Vance then pulled back the curtain on the censorship and anti-free-speech policies of the European Union and close allies ranging from the United Kingdom to Sweden. He also chastised one of the most vehemently anti-free speech figures in Europe, Thierry Breton, who led the EU efforts to control speech with draconian measures under the infamous Digital Services Act.
Vance called out the hypocrisy of these nations asking for greater and greater military assistance “in the name of our shared democratic values” even as they eviscerate free speech, the very right that once defined Western Civilization.
The point was crushing.
Before we further commit to the defense of Europe, he argued, we should agree on what we are defending. These European nations are erasing the very distinctions between us and our adversaries.
In my recent book, I discussed many of the examples cited by the vice president. One of the most telling came from Canada last year, when the government of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau temporarily blocked the citizenship of Russian dissident Maria Kartasheva. The reason was that she had a conviction (after a trial in absentia) in Russia for condemning the Ukrainian war. The Canadian government declared that Kartasheva’s conviction in Russia aligns with a Criminal Code offense relating to false information in Canada.
In other words, her use of free speech could be prosecuted in Canada under its abusive Section 372(1) of the Criminal Code, punishing speech deemed to be “convey[ing] false information with the intent to alarm or injure anyone.”
Vance ran through just a fraction of the parade of horribles, from Britain arresting people for silent prayers near abortion clinics to Sweden prosecuting a religious protester who burned a Koran, with Judge Göran Lundahl insisting that freedom of expression does not constitute a “free pass to do or say anything.” Apparently, it does not include acts once called blasphemy or insulting religion.
Vance also mocked the underlying premise for speech crackdowns to combat “disinformation,” pointing out that these measures constitute a far greater threat to citizens in the West than any external threat. He had the courage to say what has long been verboten on the restriction of speech to combat foreign influence: “if your democracy can be destroyed with a few hundred thousand dollars of digital advertising from a foreign country, then it wasn’t very strong to begin with.”
In perhaps the greatest single declaration uttered by an American leader since John F. Kennedy in Germany declared “Ich bin ein Berliner,” he added: “If you are running in fear of your own voters, there is nothing America can do for you. Nor, for that matter, is there anything that you can do for the American people that elected me and elected President Trump.”
The reaction of the European diplomats was one of astonishment. Few even offered the usual polite applause. Instead, rows of smug leaders looked straight ahead with the same level of disgust as if Vance were the second coming of the Visogoths threatening the Pax Romana, or Roman Peace.
In a single speech, Vance shattered the hypocrisy of our allies’ calling for a defense of the West while abandoning Western values. They did not like it, and many in the American press joined in dismissing his address.
He was called a “wrecking ball” for bringing up the anti-free speech movement that has swept over Europe. One German official declared “This is all so insane and worrying.” This is a diplomat from a nation that shredded free speech for decades, to the point of arresting people over their ringtones.
Of course, our own anti-free speech voices were in attendance, too. Politico quoted one “former House Democratic staffer” who bravely attacked Vance anonymously: “I was aghast … He was blaming the victim. What the f— was that? I had my mouth open in a room full of people with their mouth open. That was bad.”
No, it was not bad. It was glorious.
After Elon Musk purchased Twitter with the pledge to dismantle the company’s censorship system, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton turned to the EU, calling on it to use its Digital Service Act to force the censorship of her fellow American citizens. That did not leave many people agape. But Vance’s defense of free speech is considered a breathtaking outrage.
In “Hillbilly Elergy,” Vance explained his lack of faith in transformative moments.
“I’ve seen far too many people awash in a genuine desire to change, only to lose their mettle when they realized just how difficult change actually is,” he wrote.
And there is no “genuine desire to change” in Europe. The appetite for censorship is now insatiable, and free speech is in a free fall.
In the midst of this crackdown, Vance spoke with a quintessentially American voice. It was clear, honest and unafraid. There was no pretense or evasion. It was a speech about who we are as a nation and the values that still define us — and no longer define our allies.
They saw him as a virtual hillbilly, an American hayseed who does not understand transnational values.
For the rest of us, it was a true elegy — part lament and part liberating.
Bravo, Mr. Vice President, Bravo.
Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro professor of public interest law at George Washington University and the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.”
Great speech by Vance! Great column professor!
As I said yesterday when Europeans likes our president (viz., Berlin Brandenberg Gate, 2008, Obama pulled 200,000 people), we’re in for trouble. Still, when it dislikes our president (viz., Donald Trump 2017 & 2025), America is safe and prosperous. Some misguided amateur sociologists think Europe, with its many “states,” can be compared to the U.S. Not so, not so. The European states or nations have a visceral dislike for each other. In the days of the killer pox, the Italians called it the French pox, and the French called it the Italian pox. The difference between the US and European states is that the people of Utah or Arizona do not have animosity toward the people of Maine or Florida.
It’s hardly the same in Europe, where the French won’t drink Italian wine or drive Italian cars and vice versa. Americans may be evenly divided between Democrats and Republicans, but Europeans have more than two issues dividing them. They have language, history, and customs that are difficult to reconcile. These elements, absent in the US, become matchsticks in a tinderbox when a “free speecher” says something untoward about someone of another language, history, or customs. Hence, they must prohibit free speech, lest they be thrust into constant war with each other. You see, Europeans dislike each other almost as much as they dislike Americans for being free and easy.
jJJC, I don’t disagree with your point, but instead of French Italian friction we may want to remember how the French and the Germans have gotten along over the last 180 years and how the French and the English have fared over centuries.
Yes, of course, I could have gone on and on about how almost every nation in Europe has at some point either been aggressive or suffered aggression and those memories are hard to forget as they leave lasting wounds that sometimes never heal. And don’t forget we haven’t even mentioned the Muslim conquest of the Iberian Penninsula (Spain) in the 8th century. The Muslims ruled Spain for seven centuries and departed Granada, their last stronghold, the year (1492) that Columbus discovered the New World.
Turley’s effusive praise for a speech that was basically propaganda for Trump’s consumption rather than principle is mere a$$ kissing.
Turley has been quite a hypocrite when it comes to free speech and he has been criticized by his better colleagues for it. He’s willingly ignoring Elon Musk the “free speech absolutist” who has called on reporters and media organizations to be punished for exercising their free speech. He’s suing advertisers because after telling them to fvck off they chose not to advertise on his social media platform because they are not allowed to ‘collude’ to not advertise on his platform which is losing subscribers and money.
Turley won’t criticize Elon for fear of facing his enormous influence and ability to bully anyone into silence. Turley’s own self censoring is a result of that anti-free speech attitude Elon evokes against his critics.
If Europe defines free speech differently that’s their right. But Turley seems to forget that the principles of free speech according to our Constitution only apply within our borders. He wants it to apply everywhere and because some countries don’t exactly define free speech as we do they are essentially in violation of his own personal view and they should be castigated for it. Turley fails his own principles often and that’s purely because of his bias and fear of being targeted by MAGA hordes and all it takes is one tweet from Elon to ruin his reputation and he knows it. Being cowardly is safer than being honest. Elon makes sure you stay cowardly Turls and that is the biggest anti-free speech stance you can’t afford to criticize.
Propaganda eh george? You Wouldn’t know it if hit you in the side of the head.
Sure george, keep trying, You’re no intellectual with your sophomoric attempts at it.
You embarrass yourself with every word.
Musk is not suing advertisers. He is suing Third parties who are engaging in defamatory conduct and fraud.
Are you saying that actual fraud is acceptable ?
Mr. Turley is not afraid of Elon Musk.
Hey George at 8:36 AM: Either you believe that free speech is an inalienable right of all mankind, not just to citizens of the United States, or you don’t. I guess you don’t.
#74. Free speech as endowed by the creator? Yes, humans are created with vocal cords as standard equipment. They are generally moved by a brain or nerve cells. The cry of a newborn is an alert.
European leadership, the Elites, Globalist are in a shear PANIC. Vance told them they were fools etc. It needed to be said. The EU will fall apart, much smaller going forward as countries withdraw which will drive the Left, Globalist etc nuts.
Panic? Now how did you get that impression – Fox News?
Doubt you have the language skills to understand their newspapers.
ATS – European leaders are in Panic.
They are already under threat – FROM THEIR OWN PEOPLE
Across Europe the governing elites are having to rig elections to avoid being driven out of power.
Worse still one of the problems with Censorship is that it actually empowers the most extreme.
Europe is at risk of a political shift to the extreme – because when you censor people – they tend to beleive that the most extreme position you are censoring is the truth.
John Say,
Correct! The leftists are in such fear, they have to resort to un-democratic policies like ruling an entire party that threatens their power illegal.
Here is a new motto for this new crop of Republicans: “Living under the fear of what a tyrant might do is still living.”
“Punctuation check in aisle 1 please.
Republicans are not living in fear. They are joyous, celebrating.
It is those on the left that are living in fear. Worse they are living in fear of hypothetical.
What a non-existant tyrant MIGHT do ? Are you that fragile ?
There is no tyrant – the Demented Fool Biden is gone, good riddance.
Nor is there anything even for those on the left to fear – beyond that they will no longer have the power to force the rest of us to live as they demand.
John Say,
Well said. We are all cheering Trump, Musk, DOGE and now Vance on! What we are seeing is Democrats in a sheer panic as all their fraud, waste and abuse come to light.
Please show us the latest protest being led by Republicans. Please show us the angry conservative pundit. Please show us the screaming conservative, the sneering conservative, the “Hitler was the result of free speech” Republican.
Democrats-dumb, loud, ugly, fascist and smug.
Let us hope that this speech was more than just a ‘moment’.
The fact that the ‘anti-disinformation syndrome’ has taken hold in Europe is not at all surprising given their centuries of experience. Western thought was born in Europe but it was by no means an easy or a quick birth. And relapses into old ways are much more common than transformations.
The fact that the ‘anti-disinformation syndrome’ has taken hold in the USA is truly alarming. And there is only one country equipped and capable of dealing with that threat: the USA. It is OK to speak to Europe about the problem, JD, but protecting free speech is a job that must be accomplished at home first. Europe, as demonstrated by their history and response to your speech, is incapable of leading on this issue. Savages, even when sophisticated, are still savages.
It was an excellent and very courageous moment in history. Chancellor Scholz was upset, especially when asked if Germany could spend more on defense. More??? How is that possible? We would have to take on more debt or take away from our social services. That would not be possible.
So, many in Europe are content to let the U.S. provide a larger percentage of their defense. This is a very tricky situation, but their economies are based on this assumption. Meanwhile, the PRC has made significant inroads into their economies.
We live in interesting and very dangerous times.
So, many in Europe are content to let the U.S. provide a larger percentage of their defense. This is a very tricky situation….
it is not tricky at all.
Leftist Olaf Scholz is overwhelmingly hated by Germans. Scholz attacking JD Vance, and the American Leftist MSM parroting Scholz’s talking points, are done because they are terrified the Left are going to lose the upcoming German election. Conservatives are projected to win.
Olaf Scholz cries of JD Vance meeting with Germany’s “far right” (according to who?) Alternative for Germany (AfD) is all politics because he is projected to lose the election. His tactics of “election interference” did not work for Biden/Kamala/DNC and will backfire on Olaf as well. We have seen these smear tactics fail gloriously in America, and Olaf is merely copying the desperate strategies of failed Democrat presidential candidates Hillary, Biden and Kamala
Christian Democrats are expected to win the German elections next week on 23 February. That is what is animating Olaf Scholz
Seven in 10 Germans disapprove of Olaf Scholz ahead of elections, poll finds
February 6, 2025 2:00 am
The chancellor’s collapse in support was reflected in data collected as part of a multinational poll on European leadership conducted by the Tyson Group national research firm. Scholz’s approval rating sits at a mere 27%, with 70% of German respondents expressing dissatisfaction.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/world/3311785/germans-disapprove-olaf-scholz-tyson-poll/
Conservative leads German election race
When Germans go to vote in one week’s time, after a polarising election campaign overshadowed by a far-right surge, they are expected to hand the chancellery to conservative Friedrich Merz. If the polls are right, it will fall to the Christian Democrat to deal with a storm of challenges roiling Germany — economic stagnation, a society divided over immigration and a hostile Team Trump.
An election win on February 23 would only be the first step towards a new government. Merz would then need to find one or more coalition partners in a process that, even in less turbulent and toxic times, takes weeks if not months.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/conservative-leads-german-election-race-024622029.html
“…many in Europe are content to let the U.S. provide a larger percentage of their defense. This is a very tricky situation”
Why is that tricky? Please explain to me precisely why we should be more concerned with funding defense for Western Europe than the Western Europeans themselves are? What does Europe currently have that we could not get along without? This is not 1962: there is no Marxist Soviet Union striving to stomp out individual freedoms and install collective communism worldwide. Including Russia, Europe is a remarkably similar collection of oligarchies that vary only slightly in the liberties afforded to their people, and the corruption of their ruling class. As Vance noted in his speech, Germany and other European nations are doing quite a through job of stomping out individual freedoms, without requiring any help from their alleged adversary, Russia. I think we should stop funding these ungrateful clowns immediately and entirely. Let them sink or swim of on their own merit (or lack of same).
Free speech looks very different to the loyal underdog who is facing a closed-minded authority, than it looks to an open-minded authority being attacked by outsiders intent on to destroying it.
In the first case, the underdog argues for removing all restraints on speech, confident that he is bringing common sense and stability with his message.
In the 2nd case, an alert authority is open-minded and can make a distinction between the loyal opposition and the external enemy. Out of common-sense survival instinct, limits are placed on free speech to exclude the manipulative infowarfare of the enemy, but welcoming to the loyal opposition.
This analysis points out the importance of countering your mortal enemy’s infowarfare campaigns, while resisting the temptation to label the loyal opposition as “the enemy”. That is exactly what has happened with domestic politics in the U.S., and in Europe. It also obliges opposition to operate within bounds of the law, civility and authenticity, and quash militant excesses within its ranks. This is the definition of “loyal opposition”.
There’s no such thing as commonsense limits to free speech. Especially when it is supposed to be done by an “alert authority” deciding who is an enemy!
Beyond parody, this comment.
The US has run Voice of America my entire life. We have actively projected our own speech into countries where speech was restricted to encourage them to choose freedom.
Few would challenge that as illegitimate.
Russia and China and other countries are free to do the same.
A free nation need not fear the “infowarfare” of other nations.
As Brandeis said more than a century ago, the remedy for bad speech is more speech. PERIOD.
There is no internal/external distinction as you claim.
Do you really beleive that a handful of stupid adds from Russia tipped the 2016 election ?
Do you think that US voters are so stupid they think Hillary was Mrs. Potato Head ?
Do you think that Romanian Voters were duped by Russia ?
Your own citizens have the right to free speech.
Your foriegn adversaries can speak as they please – unless you are prepared to go to war with them ?
Are you prepared to go to war with China or Russia because they are doing what the US has done with VOA for 75 years ?
Great speech, great column. Unfortunately, it isn’t difficult to imagine a day when the US is accepting refugees from European nations that have fallen to newly founded emirates.
Europe is comprised of various post-feudal democracies in which some of the vestigial remnants of serfdom, including the condition of debt bondage to a land owner or monarch, of fidelity and loyalty to the same in return for protection. At its worst, serfdom was a form of slavery in which the indebted serfs were often sold with the land they worked. Under such circumstances, free speech poses a threat to the lord of the realm and simply cannot be tolerated even in this modern day of popular democracies. By comparison, the European colonies, notably what became the United States, rebelled against these monarchical states.
Read the Declaration of Independence to understand what we really thought of George III. It’s certainly not pretty. Indeed, it was as reprehensible to the British and their king back then as was J.D. Vance’s speech in Munich last week. Europeans may talk of democracy, but in reality and in so many ways, they are still bound to the feudal life of lifelong fidelity to a king that exists mostly in their minds. The U.S. is not and never has been a post-feudal democracy but one founded on “we, the people,” a concept that has no political interpretation in European history except as the vulgar language of pitchfork rebels looking to depose the king.
JJc-you definitely have that right. Europe has hated the United States since we were born. They first tried to ignore us but then we grew and achieved power and then they had to deal with us and as a result they simply paid lip service to our freedoms and especially our free speech. They needed us to help end WW1 and then they needed us to save them in WW2 and then they needed our umbrella of power through the Cold War and still they hated that need and still hated us because we could do it and they could not. They thought the Russians no longer mattered as a threat and so maybe America was no longer a need and then their true selves have started to appear again. Well that has all collapsed with the Ukraine Invasion. And now they need us again. But this time Mr Vance put the pause button on and said just a moment please. Why should we trash our economy and spend the lives of our youth to save you, again! For What.
They continue to trash us, try to wreck our companies, removed those values must precious to us and still save them. I think not. No blank checks anymore.
I thought Mr. Vance’s speech was a long time coming. It should have been said decades ago. I am pleased with the tenor and the message. Keep it coming.
I tend to agree with your sentiments but would temper them a bit by saying that not all Europeans dislike America. In 1830s, for example, De Tocqueville, a French sociologist, political adviser and writer, visited the U.S. and spent time visiting our towns and villages. In his book about his experiences, he was the one who coined the expression “American Exceptionalism.” He was French and wrote of his US travels in French. The French word “exceptionelle” looks like the English word “exceptional” but has a slightly different but important difference. The French meaning is closer to America being different from all other nations because it was created by and for the people, not by and for some monarch or emperor. Many today use his term to suggest a sense of “superiority” but that is not what he meant. William Pitt, the Younger, was an indefatigable defender of the British colony in North America and stood up in Parliament and defended us long before we were free. His rant against being able to search a home without a warrant in the colony- something forbidden in England – became the foundation for our Fourth Amendment. We have always enjoyed the friendship and support of European rebels who see and understand the tyranny of their own lost monarchies.
To borrow from JFK, “Without the Second Amendment, democracy is in peril. Without the First Amendment, democracy is in vain”
It was an epic speech, that had the receipts built in! The only thing that was missing was the examples of our DC Circus Courts attack on our own people!!!!!!!!!!!
Vance was surely talking to the people of Europe. He knew the current bureaucrats would not be receptive. They are turning Europe into Oceania because they cannot envision a better world. They see humanity as a curse on the land. How sad.
This is why the European leaders are calling for an emergency meeting this week to discuss the Trump administration and what to do about it. JD pulled back the curtain on Oz and they don’t like it one bit. Their money train may be pulling away from the station without them in it.
That is what they are really afraid of – the money train leaving.
I am not in their heads, but it seems to me the establishment’s real fear is that the European people may hear what Vance said and realize there is an alternative to their being repressed.
“ In perhaps the greatest single declaration uttered by an American leader since John F. Kennedy in Germany declared “Ich bin ein Berliner,” he added: “If you are running in fear of your own voters, there is nothing America can do for you. Nor, for that matter, is there anything that you can do for the American people that elected me and elected President Trump.”
How absolutely phenomenal!
Bravo, Mr Vice President! Bravo Professor Turley!
Declaration, greatest. Nope.
I came, I saw , I conquered. Yup.
This was the Vance that went to Germany and met with Musk’s AfD friend and try to influence their election? How’s that for demonstrating America’s core values?
He met with other German political leaders too. AfD is not automatically off the table just because the Euro elites label it “far right” (which in Europe would include Clintonian Democrats too). Someone in Europe is going to have to acknowledge serious problems with immigration and the lack of integration of immigrants with European society without just cracking down on the speech of anyone who dares question it. And yes, AfD has unsavory elements, but when you delegitimize the concerns of regular people, the regular people throw in with the extremists if that is the only way to be heard.
The AfD was organized by academics. The woman who leads it is herself a highly educated homosexual, whose partner was born outside of Germany.
It is perfectly acceptable to criticize whatever policy positions AfD has or propose. But calling some of AfD’s supporters “unsavory elements” is what Democrats constantly do to try to delegitimize their opponents. It’s the “guilt by association” fallacy: Some icky people may also support policies and so you don’t want to be likened to those icky people, do you?
‘Hitler was a dog loving, vegetarian, artist – so dog loving, vegetarian, artists are like Hitler. It’s dumb.
My point is that you can acknowledge that there are wackos in your movement without the movement being wacko, and you have to concentrate on the movement and not let it be defined by the wackos. If the start point with AfD is to ignore it because some actual Nazis might support it, you fail to see that AfD is making good points about a lot of things. The demonization is the starting point even in our own media, and Vance talking with and about them as the legitimate party they are is a starting point.
Thank you for that blunt response
Yes, the Neo-Nazis are off the table.
You want this billion dollars? Then you need to fire the prosecutor investigating Burisma. If he’s not fired by the time I get on the plane, there will be no billion dollars.
Yeah, those American core values!
No, those were dimocrat values. Lie, steal, punish their enemies and reward their friends.
How about Regan and Bush with Ollie North. Cocaine trafficking for the people for funding a covert war against the Nicaraguan Commies? Don’t lie to yourself, they are ALL dirty.
Traveler-
No, those are the Biden Crime Family Values. Don’t paint us with THEM. The Biden Crime family in effect had no values but just like Obama they went around poisoning the wells and destroying the country.
Those are the people that we have to watch and prevent from ever achieving power again.
You mean like HW and GW Bush or did you mean like Richard Nixon?
Pro-tip: many of us on here see you and the dogmas to which you cling fervently, espoused by your hero Malcolm X, as a threat to America’s culture, family and democracy.
You have never told us why it is that you do not live in Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, North Korea, China, and all those other wonderful Marxist regions of paradise. it is either because you’re a hypocrite, or perhaps you have a dearth of cerebral function or more likely both. You would be so lucky to have the intelectual ability of JD Vance. You do no favors for minorities across America; you’re really a blemish and an eyesore to people of color
The Black revolution requires bloodshed
Look at the American Revolution, in 1776. That revolution was for what? For land. Why did they want land? Independence. How was it carried out? Bloodshed. Number one, it was based on land, the basis of independence, and the only way they could get it, was bloodshed. The French Revolution, what was it based on — the landless against the landlord. What was it for? Land! How did they get it? Bloodshed! There was no love lost, was no compromise, was no negotiation. I’m telling you you don’t know what a revolution is, because when you find out you’ll get back in the alley, you’ll get out of the way. The Russian Revolution. What was it based on? Land — the landless against the landlord. How did they bring it about? Bloodshed. You haven’t got a revolution that doesn’t involve bloodshed, and you’re afraid to bleed. [Commotion] I said you are afraid to bleed. As long as the white man sent you to Korea, you bled. He sent you to Germany, you bled. He sent you to the South Pacific to fight the Japanese, you bled. You bleed for white people, but when it comes time to seeing your own churches being bombed, and little black girls [Speak on!] murdered, you haven’t got no blood
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/malcolm-x/index.htm
Journalist says Obama, Farrakhan photo suppressed at request of black lawmakers
Barack Obama posed for a photo in 2005 with Louis Farrakhan, the virulently anti-Semitic leader of the Nation of Islam movement, and the photographer said he suppressed its publication at the request of a member of the Congressional Black Caucus.
Farrakhan expressed support for Obama’s candidacy in 2008, and Obama’s pastor at the time, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, had praised Farrakhan on multiple occasions.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/journalist-says-obama-farrakhan-photo-suppressed-at-request-of-black-lawmakers/
All this with one arm tied to my torso. LOL
Enigma, did you ever call the Green Party “far left”? Did you ever call the Democrat Socialists of AOC and Bernie “far left”? Did you ever call anyone “far left”?
We know that the left’s use of words is a tool, we know that the left’s use of the media is a tool and humorously enough we know that you are a tool.
“you are a tool”
Enigma is a knife that is not sharp and a hammer without a handle.
Afd is likely to be a major part of the next German government
If we only talked to leaders we agreed with
We would not talk with anyone
Afd is troubling
But that is the consequence of European censorship
The more you censor the more you suppress moderate coices and the more power you give to extreme voices
I expect that Vance will meet with the likely next leaders of Germany
Of course the us is trying to influence elections
Have you ever heard of the voice of America ?
I have no problems with what our leaders do to influence foreign elections in public
I am concerned about what CIA and USAID have done clandestinely
That has universally worked badly
AfD seems to have a number of fans on this site. I’m shocked, shocked to find there’s gambling in this establishment.
Hi Enigma!!! I see that you are same old left-wing toady you always were! I always hold out the hope that one day you will venture off the Democratic Party Plantation, and be free at last.
Hi Squeeky, what you miss is that choosing to generally vote Democrat is merely choosing the lesser of two evils. While I have stayed relatively stayed the same, your cohorts are now justifying cozying up with Neo-Nazi’s as if that’s perfectly normal (Trump, Musk, Vance). At least I don’t have to wake up each morning to check what I have to believe based on a 3 am Truth that I’d never considered the night before. I’m speaking generally, not about you in particular.
The first true statesman- not BS artist like Obama- that I have heard in years.
Vance… statesman, no. The world has lost that generation. He’s just a messenger of things to come.
Those National Socialist Workers Party Germans now in power, and Merz the expected new Chancellor, can huff and puff all they want, but the reality is the AfD will survive the attacks and legal scrutiny.
It was long past due, America should quit meddling around the world and quit robbing her citizens to pay for it. Indict the criminals. Free Chauvin.
Criminals, what criminals. The elected officials of other sovereign countries?
Please, you embarrass yourself.
You’re off your meds again, the criminals that have picked our pockets from within. Every single one the USAID audit leads to.
It is coming.
And bravo, Prof. Turley, for recognizing the gravity if the situation and the importance of Vance’s lecture!