“The Threat From Within”: J.D. Vance Delivers a Historic Defense of Free Speech

Below is my column in the Hill on the historic defense of free speech by Vice President J.D. Vance in Munich last week. Where John F. Kennedy went to Berlin to declare “Ich bin ein Berliner,” Vance went in Munich to declare a type of “Ich bin ein Amerikanisch.” He spoke of free speech as an American with a power and clarity that is unrivaled in modern times. As expected, he is being attacked by Europeans and many in this country on the left. However, his speech was a tour de force of our core values.

Here is the column:

In “Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and Culture in Crisis,”  J.D. Vance wrote, “I don’t believe in transformative moments, as transformation is harder than a moment.”

Despite that profound point, on Feb. 14, Vance found that transformative moment.

Speaking to European leaders at the Munich Security Conference, he shocked his audience by confronting them over their attacks on free speech in the West.

For the free speech community, it was truly Churchillian — no less than the famous Iron Curtain speech in which Churchill dared the West to confront the existential dangers of communism.

Roughly 80 years after Churchill’s speech, Vance called our allies to account not for the growing threat from countries like Russia or China, but from themselves. To a clearly shocked audience, Vance declared that he was not worried about “external actors” but “the threat from within the retreat of Europe from some of its most fundamental values, values shared with the United States of America.”

Vance then pulled back the curtain on the censorship and anti-free-speech policies of the European Union and close allies ranging from the United Kingdom to Sweden. He also chastised one of the most vehemently anti-free speech figures in Europe, Thierry Breton, who led the EU efforts to control speech with draconian measures under the infamous Digital Services Act.

Vance called out the hypocrisy of these nations asking for greater and greater military assistance “in the name of our shared democratic values” even as they eviscerate free speech, the very right that once defined Western Civilization.

The point was crushing.

Before we further commit to the defense of Europe, he argued, we should agree on what we are defending. These European nations are erasing the very distinctions between us and our adversaries.

In my recent book, I discussed many of the examples cited by the vice president. One of the most telling came from Canada last year, when the government of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau temporarily blocked the citizenship of Russian dissident Maria Kartasheva. The reason was that she had a conviction (after a trial in absentia) in Russia for condemning the Ukrainian war. The Canadian government declared that Kartasheva’s conviction in Russia aligns with a Criminal Code offense relating to false information in Canada.

In other words, her use of free speech could be prosecuted in Canada under its abusive Section 372(1) of the Criminal Code, punishing speech deemed to be “convey[ing] false information with the intent to alarm or injure anyone.”

Vance ran through just a fraction of the parade of horribles, from Britain arresting people for silent prayers near abortion clinics to Sweden prosecuting a religious protester who burned a Koran, with Judge Göran Lundahl insisting that freedom of expression does not constitute a “free pass to do or say anything.” Apparently, it does not include acts once called blasphemy or insulting religion.

Vance also mocked the underlying premise for speech crackdowns to combat “disinformation,” pointing out that these measures constitute a far greater threat to citizens in the West than any external threat. He had the courage to say what has long been verboten on the restriction of speech to combat foreign influence: “if your democracy can be destroyed with a few hundred thousand dollars of digital advertising from a foreign country, then it wasn’t very strong to begin with.”

In perhaps the greatest single declaration uttered by an American leader since John F. Kennedy in Germany declared “Ich bin ein Berliner,” he added: “If you are running in fear of your own voters, there is nothing America can do for you. Nor, for that matter, is there anything that you can do for the American people that elected me and elected President Trump.”

The reaction of the European diplomats was one of astonishment. Few even offered the usual polite applause. Instead, rows of smug leaders looked straight ahead with the same level of disgust as if Vance were the second coming of the Visogoths threatening the Pax Romana, or Roman Peace.

In a single speech, Vance shattered the hypocrisy of our allies’ calling for a defense of the West while abandoning Western values. They did not like it, and many in the American press joined in dismissing his address.

He was called a “wrecking ball” for bringing up the anti-free speech movement that has swept over Europe. One German official declared “This is all so insane and worrying.” This is a diplomat from a nation that shredded free speech for decades, to the point of arresting people over their ringtones.

Of course, our own anti-free speech voices were in attendance, too. Politico quoted one “former House Democratic staffer” who bravely attacked Vance anonymously: “I was aghast … He was blaming the victim. What the f— was that? I had my mouth open in a room full of people with their mouth open. That was bad.”

No, it was not bad. It was glorious.

After Elon Musk purchased Twitter with the pledge to dismantle the company’s censorship system, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton turned to the EU, calling on it to use its Digital Service Act to force the censorship of her fellow American citizens. That did not leave many people agape. But Vance’s defense of free speech is considered a breathtaking outrage.

In “Hillbilly Elergy,” Vance explained his lack of faith in transformative moments.

“I’ve seen far too many people awash in a genuine desire to change, only to lose their mettle when they realized just how difficult change actually is,” he wrote.

And there is no “genuine desire to change” in Europe. The appetite for censorship is now insatiable, and free speech is in a free fall.

In the midst of this crackdown, Vance spoke with a quintessentially American voice. It was clear, honest and unafraid. There was no pretense or evasion. It was a speech about who we are as a nation and the values that still define us — and no longer define our allies.

They saw him as a virtual hillbilly, an American hayseed who does not understand transnational values.

For the rest of us, it was a true elegy — part lament and part liberating.

Bravo, Mr. Vice President, Bravo.

Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro professor of public interest law at George Washington University and the author of “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.”

306 thoughts on ““The Threat From Within”: J.D. Vance Delivers a Historic Defense of Free Speech”

  1. Just wondering when ole Elon will get to the office of management and budget? That should be entertaining.

    1. He already has a Handbook with a 13-Part Plan, direct from David Stockman Frm. Director of the Office of Management and Budget under President Ronald Reagan.

      Memo To Musk & Ramaswamy: How To Cut $2 Trillion of Fat, Muscle And Bone—The Complete Plan
      PART 1 The original DOGE goal of $2 trillion of budget savings is crucial to the very future of constitutional democracy and capitalist prosperity in America. In fact, the soaring public debt is now so out-of-control that the Federal budget threatens to become a self-fueling financial doomsday machine. So more power to Musk & Ramaswamy. […]
      By: David Stockman
      https://www.davidstockmanscontracorner.com/memo-to-musk-ramaswamy-how-to-cut-2-trillion-of-fat-muscle-and-bone-the-complete-plan/

      And a Plan fro Congress as well …

      Time For A Mercy Killing—The House GOP’s Budget Resolution Hides A $4.4 Trillion Deficit Fraud
      What in the hell are these GOP fiscal frauds thinking? The whole point of the 1974 budget act and its mechanism of budget resolutions and reconciliation instructions was to enable elected politician to curb their propensity to spend and borrow, and to thereby put an effective lid on the public debt. A half century latter, […]
      By: David Stockman
      https://www.davidstockmanscontracorner.com/time-for-a-mercy-killing-the-house-gops-budget-resolution-hides-a-4-4-trillion-deficit-fraud/

      Subscribe if you want to know what going on in the GOP

  2. I actually am just learning about this speech this evening so I just watched the entire 19 minutes over on YouTube and it definitely was historic. That was the best thing I’ve ever heard.

    I never really paid any attention to JD Vance, but I am now. That was perhaps the best speech I’ve ever heard from a political leader. It meant so much to me to hear that said.

    Historic definitely. Monumental is more like it.

    Like right out of a Capra film, so American I could smell the apple pie. Seriously I got goose pimples.

    Mr. Vance goes to Munich.

  3. DOGE has now found that 4.7 trillion taxpayer dollars were spent using a blank treasury access symbol, making the payments virtually untraceable.

    Yes, trillion.

    1. Dark Dinero. The Kleptocracy is quaking. 40 trillion dollars of free stuff with benefits is an expensive redistributive change scheme with forward-looking collateral damage. Abort.

  4. … perhaps the greatest single declaration uttered by an American leader since John F. Kennedy in Germany declared “Ich bin ein Berliner” …

    Reagan’s “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!” Ranks at the same level. Interesting all three declarations were made in Germany.

  5. OT. OFF TOPIC #74

    It appears there were 2 shooters in the JFK assassination. The CIA hired the Chicago mafia. Sutton and Roselli were the gunmen. Oswald was not one. Ruby Chicago mafia. Actually sloppy because Oswald would talk.

      1. Its not about Who pulled the trigger, its about Who AND What ordered the hit.
        That’s what to look for.

        1. #74. Sutton was a military man at the bay of pigs when JFK left them stranded. They were killed and imprisoned as recounted by Sutton.

          Sutton was also a hit man for the Chicago mafia. He just took orders. Giancana, Roselli and
          Nicoletti all Chicago mafia , were his working group and all murdered as they were called to testify before congress regarding organized crime. Sutton said the CIA makes the mafia look like kindergarten.

          Sutton left his calling card on the fence on the grassy knoll. It was .221 shell with his teeth marks. He used a .221, mercury tip, Remington fireball bolt action single shot pistol with scope. Traces of mercury can be found on JFKs skull if exhumed. Sutton took the temple shot and Roselli the rear shot.

          Oswald was a CIA contact. He drove Sutton around 5 days before the assassination to do recon. These teams never spoke among each other but carried out specific missions, orders.

  6. Gigi

    You have lied repeatedly on my blog and said that Trump has lost court cases over his recent Executive Orders.

    Please name a single court case that has been adjudicated, and a decision arrived at, on the merits.

    You do understand the difference between a TRO or TI, and a decision, don’t you?

    If not, please refrain from making ignorant comments on this legal blog.

    By the way, impersonating an attorney is a crime.

    1. #74.

      VP Vance gave a vigorous speech. He’s a fine orator.

      The German defense minister, Boris Pistorius, gave a sobering response.

  7. Obama judge Chutkan attempts to usurp the power of the executive branch.

    Chutkan and the judicial branch have no degree or amount of executive power to exercise.

    The only act available to Judge “Barack Obama” Chutkan was to dismiss the case with prejudice as frivolous and criminal lawfare.
    ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    Article 2, Section 1

    The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.
    __________________________________________________________________________________________

    Executive power is singularly and exclusively vested in the President.

    Chutkan must be impeached and convicted for conspiracy, subversion, abuse of power, usurpation of power, and prosecuted for 18 U.S. Code § 242—Deprivation of rights under color of law against the President.
    _________________________

    “Judge appears unlikely to immediately halt DOGE access and firings”

    The judge said she found the potential harm from the Department of Government Efficiency’s actions “concerning” and “troubling” but needed more specifics.

    A federal judge in Washington, D.C., on Monday hinted she might not throw up immediate roadblocks to Elon Musk’s infiltration of the nation’s government agencies, where he and his team have accessed sensitive data and enacted a flurry of firings.

    U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan said at a hearing Monday that she needed to see more evidence of imminent harm before she granted a request by a group of states for a temporary restraining order to stop Musk and his Department of Government Efficiency team from entering federal agency data systems and prohibited their making personnel decisions about federal employees.

    – NBC News

  8. Stephen Smith/Tim Walz/Ray Epps in 2028! Only they can save America! In your heart, you know I’m right.

  9. This should scare you very, very much.

    “Trump and his team are “great problem-solvers,” Russian negotiator in Riyadh says ahead of US-Russia talks”

    1. If I were an arms trader, a money launderer through Ukraine, a member of the military-industrial complex, or a war monger, that would indeed scare me very very much. My money source might be drying up. Also, if I were favored nuclear annihilation of the human race, or just favored continuation of the meat-grinder war in eastern Ukraine (e.g., because I was the devil himself), that might scare me because it would mean the threat of WWIII has abated.

  10. Food for thought from someone much more intelligent than I…

    I have been told by those who know the US hacking community that the young members of Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency computing team now running amok inside the Treasury Department, where America’s checks are drawn up, would not have been granted a clearance had they sought computer jobs with the federal government. But there is little doubt about the skills of Musk’s young Turks and their ability to get proprietary information that would enrich their boss. Musk does billions of dollars in business with the federal government, and analyzing and evaluating the way various bureaucrats evaluate his firms’ contract proposals—and those of their competitors—would be of prime interest.

    1. “I have been told by those who know the US hacking community that the young members of Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency computing team now running amok inside the Treasury Department, where America’s checks are drawn up, would not have been granted a clearance had they sought computer jobs with the federal government.”
      There is not a clause in this that holds up. While we KNOW that DOGE is headed to IRS and may be there, you do NOT need a security clearance to access IRS data – it is NOT national security data. It is protected by laws passed by congress that send to jail people who leak IRS data.
      Those laws apply to EVERYONE – including those in DOGE.
      That said the members of DOGE have TS/SCI clearances – that has already been reported.
      Whoever you are dealing with knows NOTHING about security clearances.
      To get one you have to have “need to know” DOGE clearly does, While IRS data does NOT have national security classification, SOME USAID data does – as USAID is a CIA front, and lots of DOD data has national security implications, and DOGE is going to be doing CIA – again requiring clearances. To get a clearance you fill out a long application that requires you to detail your financial history, credit porblems, debts etc. Your criminal history, your drug use history, your contacts with foreign nationals, your trips to foreign countries and the like.
      The FBI then investigates – interviewing most everyone in your life and looking for evidence that you lied in your application.

      With a few exceptions – past drug use, and similar problems do NOT disqualify you – but lying about them does.

      AS has been noted – these kids are young – they have not had time to create the life that would take the FBI forever to investigate.

      And BTW apparently 20 teen interns at the IRS doing research have unredacted access to all US tax returns.

      “But there is little doubt about the skills of Musk’s young Turks and their ability to get proprietary information that would enrich their boss.”
      Proprietary means something entirely different.
      A tiny portion of the Data DOGE is accessin requires TS/SCI clearances. DOGE has them, if that data is disclosed publicly – they will go to jail.
      A tiny portion of data DOGE is looking at – Like US tax payer Data or SS Data is illegal for ANYONE in government to disclose.
      Those in DOGE will go to jail if they disclose it.
      ALL the DATA that DOGE is accessing is the property of the US government removing it from government custody would be a crime.

      The computers DOGE is using are government computers.

      “Musk does billions of dollars in business with the federal government”
      Yup.
      “analyzing and evaluating the way various bureaucrats evaluate his firms’ contract proposals—and those of their competitors—would be of prime interest.” No government procurement rules and criteria are public. Though I would note DOGE does NOT have access to the information you are mentioning. DOGE is looking at where the checks were cut, not how contracts were awarded.
      They are looking at whether a contract was Fraud, not how it was awarded.

    2. At this time nearly all contracts to put something into sapce are going to SpaceX – because no one else can do it.
      The shuttle is dead. Government finally shutdown the Atlas program. They have no other way to put anything into sapce.

  11. J.D. Vance was magnificent!

    Imagine Obama, Obama/Biden, and Kamalala roaming the world, covering it with parasitism, inane word salads, and alms-for-the-poor redistribution.

    Is she blitzed?

    1. I listened and read Vances speech at DW and the commentary afterward; awful

      The fact checking leads to this comment and a link to the letter sent to residents.

      “the law does stipulate that even activities that can be seen or heard within the zone and are “done intentionally or recklessly” in a private place within the area (like a house) between the protected premises and the boundary of a zone could be an offense.”

      https://archive.is/TRPea

      President Wilson would be proud.

      1. I had a physician researcher friend at University of Miami who graduated MD/PhD from Germany. He was furious with the way Germany went woke. When the Volkswagen emissions scandal broke in 2015, he said Germany had lost its soul and was ashamed to be a German. He has passed away since then but he would be disgusted with what has become of Germany.

        1. Estovir, your post is in my box but not on the blog. I am sorry about your friend. All of the West is rotting away. We have a chance with Trump.

          My entire family is horrified. My grandmother, an immigrant, was in front of her building. She was around 90 and saw a young hoodlum trying to get money from a frail old man. She walked over to the hooligan, put her cane into his chest, and said you don’t do that on my block. So much has changed

          1. I forgot to finish. After she put the cane into his chest and told him, not on my block, he said, yes ma’am and politely walked away.

  12. Social Security data shows millions more eligible recipients than living Americans, Musk reveals

    “This might be the biggest fraud in history,” he warned.

    Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) chief Elon Musk on Monday posted Social Security data revealing the existence of tens of millions of eligible recipients beyond the total population of the United Sates.

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/social-security-data-shows-millions-more-eligible-recipients-living-americans-musk?utm_source=breaking&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter

    “According to the Social Security database, these are the numbers of people in each age bucket with the death field set to FALSE!

    Maybe Twilight is real and there are a lot of vampires collecting Social Security,” he quipped, referencing a popular teenage fantasy novel series.

    The spreadsheet of data showed millions of recipients over the age of 120, including one between the ages of 360 and 369. In total, the data accounting for nearly 395 million people. The population of the U.S. is roughly 335 million people, meaning that about 60 million Social Security numbers were listed as eligible beyond the living population.

    “Yes, there are FAR more ‘eligible’ social security numbers than there are citizens in the USA,” he responded to someone highlighting the disparity.
    “This might be the biggest fraud in history.”

    The total population, notably includes illegal people who may not be eligible recipients and therefore the gap between that figure and current records may be even larger.

    1. If you believe the BS from Elon Musk you are an idiot.s
      Show us the proof Elon. I’m sure the proof is in the same shoebox as the 2020 election fraud. Did you forget about that? No proof, None, zip, nada.
      Are there a few people collecting SS fro their dead parents? Perhaps, 100s? Doubtful, 1000s? almost certainly not true.

      1. And you know this, how? Reading from undigested tea leaves pulled from your cloacal zone may be “science” under con-artist fraud criminal Anthony Fauci, but not in reality.
        Stick to things that you actually know something about. Like collecting more signed photos from Dylan Mulvaney, your hero.

      2. Elon has just come across very significant problems with the bookkeeping. Why wasn’t that discovered earlier. Further investigation is required to determine how much money was stolen, if any. When bookkeeping is that bad, invariably, there is fraud. The same thing was discovered in NYC decades ago, and the people in charge of the welfare office were finally arrested.

        Your vile response is indicative of your intelligence. You can only see that before you and then miss more than half.

      3. BT – the DOGE data is being provided to both the PResident and to congress.

        Regardless those of you on the left can atleats get your stories straight.

        First the number of 150 year olds was just because if you enter a 0 that is a date 150 years ago.
        So why are there so many people receiving Social Security who we do not know when they were born ?
        How do you tell if someone is eligable for SS if you do not know when they were born ?

        Nor does that explain the very large numbers over 100 but not 150. Someone entered an actual birthdate for them – a date prior to WWI.
        How many people who were born before WWI are still alive ?

        What DOGE is finding suprises very few people.

        I would note that Clinton/Gore tried the DOGE thing too.
        Clinton got rid of almost 300,000 federal workers – 10% of the federal workforce.

        Obama tried to do this too – put Joe Biden at the head of the task force.
        Obama/Joe claimed they were going to find hundreds of billions in fraud and waste. Including huge amounts in SS and HI.
        But after making a big show, the effort fizzled.
        Those in power do not want government audited.

  13. This piece dramatically overstates the impact and significance of J.D. Vance’s speech while distorting the broader context of free speech issues in both the U.S. and Europe.

    First, equating Vance’s remarks to Churchill’s Iron Curtain speech is an absurd stretch. Churchill was warning against the spread of totalitarianism in the wake of World War II, a global conflict that left millions dead. Vance, in contrast, was delivering a partisan critique of European policies that, while certainly debatable, do not rise to the level of an existential crisis for Western civilization. The idea that a single speech shattered the hypocrisy of European nations and left diplomats aghast is more wishful thinking than reality.

    Second, the argument that Europe is somehow less committed to free speech than the United States is deeply misleading. While laws governing speech differ between nations—such as restrictions on hate speech in Germany or the UK—those same countries have long-standing democratic traditions that safeguard free expression. The implication that Europe is descending into an Orwellian nightmare while the U.S. remains a beacon of free speech ignores America’s own recent struggles with censorship, corporate influence over speech platforms, and political efforts to suppress viewpoints across the spectrum.

    Furthermore, Vance’s claim that external disinformation is an overblown threat ignores the real impact of organized propaganda campaigns. While free societies should be resilient to such efforts, it is naïve to suggest that foreign influence operations—whether from Russia, China, or elsewhere—are insignificant or that democracies should not take steps to protect their institutions.

    As for the attempt to frame Vance’s speech as a defining moment, the reality is that his remarks will not fundamentally shift U.S.-European relations, nor will they reshape global attitudes toward free speech. Instead, they were a reflection of a growing isolationist and populist sentiment within a segment of American politics—one that increasingly seeks to undermine international alliances rather than strengthen them.

    Vance may have delivered a forceful speech, but forcefulness does not equal greatness. Free speech is an issue worth debating, but reducing it to an America-versus-Europe culture war does little to advance the cause.

    1. Free speech should not be a partisan issue.

      Censorship is an aspect of totalitarianism, and it is rapidly spreading in the West. If you think there are still safeguards for free speech in Europe, then you perhaps haven’t stayed current. The UK arrested a man for silently praying outside an abortion clinic. Gangs of Pakistani men have been raping and trafficking young girls in the UK, because it was considered career suicide to publicly admit it was happening.

      Professor Turley has penned multiple posts on the erosion of Free Speech in the UK, and JK Rowling dared the UK to arrest her for stating the biological truth that a man can’t become a woman.

      The differences in Free Speech protections between the US and the rest of the West are objectively vast.

      You also missed the objective if you believe this was an America vs Europe stunt. This was a plea for the West not to abolish freedom of speech, whereby it would rapidly become indiscernible from much of the rest of the world.

      Here is the Hate Crime law in the UK, which can imprison someone for perceived hostility towards transgender. That hostility can include stating the fact that a man cannot become a woman, or objecting to compelled speech.

      https://www.cps.gov.uk/crime-info/hate-crime

      “The law recognises five types of hate crime on the basis of:

      Race
      Religion
      Disability
      Sexual orientation
      Transgender identity
      Any crime can be prosecuted as a hate crime if the offender has either:

      demonstrated hostility based on race, religion, disability, sexual orientation or transgender identity
      Or

      been motivated by hostility based on race, religion, disability, sexual orientation or transgender identity…

      “Any criminal offence which is perceived by the victim or any other person, to be motivated by hostility or prejudice, based on a person’s disability or perceived disability; race or perceived race; or religion or perceived religion; or sexual orientation or perceived sexual orientation or transgender identity or perceived transgender identity.”

      There is no legal definition of hostility so we use the everyday understanding of the word which includes ill-will, spite, contempt, prejudice, unfriendliness, antagonism, resentment and dislike.

      Here is the Digital Services Act, which allows the EU to censor its member countries based on what it decides is “misinformation”. We have all seen numerous claims labeled misinformation that turned out to be true.

      https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/priorities-2019-2024/europe-fit-digital-age/digital-services-act_en

      1. “Free speech should not be a partisan issue.

        Censorship is an aspect of totalitarianism,”

        Make your 2nd promise the 1st, and the explanation for why it is a partisan issue becomes apparent…

  14. Some topical headlines:

    – Von Trapp family crosses the alps into Switzerland to escape free speech
    – Deranged maniac fires off over 17 memes in crowded German shopping mall
    – Europe vows to stick it to Trump by finally paying their own bills
    – Vance speech denouncing EU censorship censored by EU
    – Democrats demand transparency from man who posts literally everything he does on the internet
    – Entire federal workforce replaced by one 16-year-old Chick-fil-A worker

    Some less topical ones:

    – Audit reveals all of Fort Knox gold replaced by IOUs
    – Canadian hockey fans boo their future national anthem
    – Man finally realizes the reason people play hockey is you can legally punch someone in the face
    – Democrats vow to fight DOGE by wasting more money than ever
    – SNL celebrates 25th anniversary of last time it was funny
    – Woman posts pic of her dinner for benefit of friends who’ve never seen spaghetti
    – Impoverished man only has 2 computer monitors

  15. Another hillbilly (actually from W. Va. whose name on my library card was Hill, Billy) applauds you for your courage.

  16. I watched 3 young Germans be interviewed by a journalist from 60 minutes. The topic was free speech. It’s quite evident that the apple doesn’t fall to far from the tree. These were the descendants of the nazis. And it was plain as day how the nazis controlled the minds of the people. Screw Europe. Let them fend for themselves.

  17. A fine post, Professor. Although I confess that I came to the comments section to see the hysterical trolls defending censorship and authoritarianism. They didn’t disappoint. They continue to struggle to come to terms with their utterly humiliating loss of all three branches of our government.

    1. Cionnath-Well we will have to still drag the trolls along with us, wherever the nation goes and they will be telling us we’re all wrong no matter which direction we choose. They never really choose a direction but mainly cry in hysterics about all other directions.

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