“This Judge is a Hero”: Democratic Politicians and Judges Praise Judge Dugan and Call for Resistance

The defense team for Judge Hannah Dugan is likely  thinking, “This is not helpful.” While Dugan initially contested the allegations that she assisted an illegal immigrant to evade federal authorities in her Milwaukee courthouse, Democrats are heralding her as a type of Harriet Tubman guiding illegal immigrants to safety.  Democratic State Rep Ryan Clancy even declared to a cheering crowd: “What Judge Dugan apparently did was what all of us should be doing.” That is precisely why federal authorities felt criminal charges were warranted despite Dugan’s judicial title.

According to the criminal complaint, a six-person arrest team (including an ICE officer, a Customs and Border Protection officer, two FBI special agents, and two DEA agents) came to the courthouse to arrest Eduardo Flores-Ruiz, a Mexican immigrant facing three misdemeanor battery counts they intended to deport.

He is accused of hitting someone 30 times during a fight that erupted over complaints that his music was too loud and assaulting three separate individuals, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported.

Flores-Ruiz was previously deported and then entered again illegally, a federal felony. He was issued an I-860 Notice and Order of Expedited Removal on January 16, 2013, and Flores-Ruiz was “removed to Mexico through the Nogales, Arizona, port of entry.” Not only is reentry a felony but when there is an order of expedited removal, you can be deported without any further court hearing.

After facilitating his escape, Dugan was later arrested and charged with obstructing or impeding a proceeding (18 U.S.C. 1505) and concealing an individual to prevent his arrest (18 U.S.C. 1071).

Calls for resistance and even replication have also come from colleagues on the bench. Monica Isham, a circuit judge in Sawyer County, not only defended Judge Hannah Dugan in an email to other state judges but added that she “has no intention of allowing anyone to be taken out of my courtroom by [Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents] and sent to a concentration camp.”

The email is titled “Guidance requested or I Refuse to Hold Court” and, after pledging to also resist ICE, asks “Should I start raising bail money?”

Isham added:

“Enough is enough. I no longer feel protected or respected as a Judge in this administration. If there is no guidance for us and no support for us, I will refuse to hold court in Branch 2 in Sawyer County. I will not put myself or my staff who may feel compelled to help me or my community in [harm’s] way. If this cost me my job or it gets me arrested, then at least I know I did the right thing.”

These judges have been joined by national Democratic leaders who have lionized Dugan, even before all of the facts were established. Within hours, Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., called the arrest “a drastic move threatening the rule of law” and a “grave step that undermines our system of checks and balances.”

Her Minnesota colleague, Sen. Tina Smith, decried that “Donald Trump is arresting judges he doesn’t like!”

Dugan was showered with accolades from the left, with such postings as “The FBI has arrested a judge who helped migrants avoid ICE. This judge is a hero.”

Democratic politicians who line up to support Judge Dugan often omit the details of the arrest. It may be worth reviewing a few of those details.

The complaint details how the officers sought to satisfy Dugan who was described as angry and uncooperative. That included (upon Judge Dugan’s insistence) locating the Chief Judge and confirming that they could facilitate an arrest in the hallways as public areas. Here is the account:

After showing ID and badges, [a shift sergeant with Milwaukee County Sheriff’s Office] asked that any arrest wait until after the completion of the scheduled hearing before Judge DUGAN. As this was standard practice, Deportation Officer A and CBP Officer A agreed, and they were allowed to proceed unescorted to the public hallway outside of Courtroom 615. . . .

FBI Agent A displayed his credentials to the courtroom deputy and informed him that they were there to assist ICE in arresting Flores-Ruiz. They agreed that the arrest would take place after Flores-Ruiz’s court appearance. The agents then left the courtroom and took positions at different locations in the public hallway.

Judge DUGAN and Judge A, who were both wearing judicial robes, approached members of the arrest team in the public hallway. Judge A’s courtroom is located adjacent to Judge DUGAN’s courtroom. Witnesses uniformly reported that Judge DUGAN was visibly upset and had a confrontational, angry demeanor. Judge DUGAN addressed Deportation Officer A and asked if Deportation Officer A was present for a court appearance. When Deportation Officer A responded, “no,” Judge DUGAN stated that Deportation Officer A would need to leave the courthouse.

Deportation Officer A stated that Deportation Officer A was there to effectuate an arrest. Judge DUGAN asked if Deportation Officer A had a judicial warrant, and Deportation Officer A responded, “No, I have an administrative warrant.” Judge DUGAN stated that Deportation Officer A needed a judicial warrant. Deportation Officer A told Judge DUGAN that Deportation Officer A was in a public space and had a valid immigration warrant. Judge DUGAN asked to see the administrative warrant and Deportation Officer A offered to show it to her. Judge DUGAN then demanded that Deportation Officer A speak with the Chief Judge. Judge DUGAN then had a similar interaction with FBI Agent B and CBP Officer A. After finding out that they were not present for a court appearance and that they were with ICE, Judge DUGAN ordered them to report to the Chief Judge’s office.

Deportation Officer A went inside a more private area of the Chief Judge’s office to speak with him on the phone. During their conversation, the Chief Judge stated he was working on a policy which would dictate locations within the courthouse where ICE could safely conduct enforcement actions. The Chief Judge emphasized that such actions should not take place in courtrooms or other private locations within the building. Deportation Officer A asked about whether enforcement actions could take place in the hallway. The Chief Judge indicated that hallways are public areas.

However, Judge Dugan decided that it was now time for her to get down from the bench and actively guide Flores-Ruiz through a non-public door to evade arrest:

The courtroom deputy recalled that upon the courtroom deputy’s return to the courtroom, defense counsel for Flores-Ruiz was talking to the clerk, and Flores-Ruiz was seated in the jury box, rather than in the gallery. . . .

The courtroom deputy then saw Judge DUGAN get up and heard Judge DUGAN say something like “Wait, come with me.”

Despite having been advised of the administrative warrant for the arrest of Flores-Ruiz, Judge DUGAN then escorted Flores-Ruiz and his counsel out of the courtroom through the “jury door,” which leads to a nonpublic area of the courthouse. These events were also unusual for two reasons. First, the courtroom deputy had previously heard Judge DUGAN direct people not to sit in the jury box because it was exclusively for the jury’s use. Second, according to the courtroom deputy, only deputies, juries, court staff, and in-custody defendants being escorted by deputies used the back jury door. Defense attorneys and defendants who were not in custody never used the jury door.

When the team realized that he had escaped, they pursued the suspect and only apprehended him after a chase in the streets of Milwaukee.

What these politicians do not explain is where the line should be drawn if judges can now actively assist in the escape of fugitives or wanted individuals. Could Dugan order court officers to hide Flores-Ruiz? Could she put him in her trunk and drive him out of the courthouse?

Once you leave the bench to assist in alleged illegality, you find yourself on a slippery slope.

This has happened before and, according to judges like Isham, it will happen again.

I previously wrote about the case of Massachusetts judge Shelley M. Richmond Joseph who was charged with allegedly helping an illegal immigrant evade ICE agents in April 2018. Joseph and court officer Wesley MacGregor were charged with conspiracy to obstruct justice, obstruction of justice, aiding and abetting and obstruction of a federal proceeding.

I was critical of the handling of the case. While Joseph was suspended for three years, charges were dropped in 2022 during the Biden Administration.

Many of us have called for a deescalation of the rhetoric and conflicts between the judicial and executive branches. We need to maintain respect for our courts even when we disagree with their decisions.

However, that is a mutual obligation. Judges have to maintain such respect by honoring their role as adjudicators rather than accomplices in criminal matters.

As Justice Louis Brandeis stated in Olmstead v. United States, 277 U.S. 438 (1928).:

In a government of laws, existence of the government will be imperiled if it fails to observe the law scrupulously. Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. To declare that in the administration of the criminal law the end justifies the means — to declare that the government may commit crimes in order to secure the conviction of a private criminal — would bring terrible retribution. Against that pernicious doctrine this court should resolutely set its face.

Hannah Dugan has shown precisely how “contagious” such law breaking can become when judges become “teachers” of a “contempt for law.” She yielded to the temptation to “become a law unto herself.” Frankly, it may be difficult to secure a conviction from a Milwaukee jury, but the Justice Department is seeking to offer a lesson of a different kind in bringing these charges.

343 thoughts on ““This Judge is a Hero”: Democratic Politicians and Judges Praise Judge Dugan and Call for Resistance”

  1. Why do so many people pretend the US doesn’t have a legal immigration system, or that every country on the planet enforces federal immigration laws? Living in the United States is not a human right, or else billions of people would arrive tomorrow.

    For those who claim illegal immigration is somehow essential to our economy, Gov Newsom expanded Medical coverage to even more illegal immigrants, this time for those aged 26-49. Within a few months, Medical became insolvent. The latest expansion, alone, costs $8.4 billion annually from the State General Fund. Newsom got a $2.8 billion bailout for Medical, for just this year. The more free benefits California offers to those who broke federal immigration law, the more illegal immigrants will come there. We have already passed the tipping point for California’s solvency.

    The federal immigration system is supposed to screen out criminals, terrorists, abusers, and those who support terror. It ensures that immigrants arrive in numbers that our support infrastructure can handle. No one has yet to make a cogent argument why they feel these laws are unfair, or why there should be any limits on immigration.

    Until these activists and politicians remove the locks from their own doors, and allow anyone and everyone to come live in their homes, then they shouldn’t be removing the border locks on the country.

    1. Your points are salient and logical. However, the federal immigration system has more leeway than just screening out criminals, terrorists, and those who support terror. “Abusers” need to be defined, and this opens the door to further relevance and cogency on the issue—something that isn’t even discussed, usually: the downright false asylum pretenses, in other words fabricating claims, falsifying assertions and oaths: creating the appearance or semblance of “substance” and legal right. While this “color of law” and “color of office” applies to the judge herself, no such authority exists in law for illegal immigrants, and we should call it what it is, perjury [false statements knowingly made], and grounds for the legal arguments and the ejections.

  2. What is interesting to note is that these “judges” refer to courts (the peoples’ institution) as THEIR courts. Presiding over them as all-powerful owners, as polity above the law, as despots creating abnegation. In other words, these judges act with the absolute hubris of demigods and despots—similar to what they accuse in Trump. We live in a deranged time when ideologues both use the law and break the law with the same equity. The outcome is not law, but caprice.

    1. @Dianna Bec,

      The judges are the sole controllers of their court room.
      They are the law within that room while they sit on the bench.

      Beyond that.. they face limitations where they are over stepping their bounds.

      1. I knew this particular objection would “apply” and be used to excuse what is clearly out of bounds. The sole controllers of the courtroom, i.e., ruling in arguments and PROCEEDINGS-protocols, does not apply to shared facilities like jury-rooms, hallways and doors, and parking lots. This giving over to a judge’s unrestrained and supreme ownership of a court facilities and areas is grossly distorted, right into immoral and illegal license. Again, this is not law, but a scalawag’s monomania.

  3. “Judges have to maintain such respect by honoring their role as adjudicators rather than accomplishes in criminal matters.”

    Should be “accomplices” not “accomplishes”.

  4. Professor Turley, you write

    “I was critical of the handling of the (Richmond Joseph) case (in Massachusetts in 2018). While Richmond Joseph was suspended for three years, charges were dropped in 2022 during the Biden Administration.”

    Good news/bad news
    – Good: Her Federal charges were dropped by Biden in 2022 ONLY because she “attested to the facts” in the Trump administration charges filed in 2019 and all agreed that the matter would be handled by the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court as a judicial conduct matter
    – Bad: The state has been dragging its feet for years now and a full filing only came to the SJC in December 2024. And of course, despite the fact that a final hearing was to be held by March 1, nothing has apparently come of that yet per the Massachusetts media.

    At least, to best of my knowledge, she’s back to doing wills and deeds instead of judging the rest of us. After the SJC hearing, she should be disbarred

    https://www.mass.gov/news/commission-on-judicial-conduct-files-formal-charges-against-judge-shelley-m-richmond-joseph

  5. Justice Brandeis was absolutely spot on — Government sets the example: when it becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for the law.
    He wrote that in 1928!
    The minute Hannah Dugan actively engaged in freeing Flores-Ruiz, she effectively took off her judicial robes and signed her letter of resignation.
    Democrat leadership has an affinity for publicly defending individuals are bad examples of who should be defended. It started a long time ago: anyone remember Rodney King, who was portrayed by Democrats in Los Angeles County as a ‘black motorist’ rather than an inveterate dangerous drug user? Abrego-Garcia is a ‘Maryland dad?’ Really…
    George Floyd passed a counterfeit $20 bill in a convenience store, which is how it all started.
    18-year old school-boy Michael Brown had his photo of his cap’n’gown in the media—he terrorized the Korean convenience store owner in Ferguson, MO — that’s how it all started when he stole a box of cigars and walked out without paying! Hands up-don’t shoot was the hoax that went with that debacle, and there was Eric Holder and Obama taking control of the Ferguson police dept. —
    Name the last time the GOP came up with such fabricated events such as these?

    Crickets.

    1. I was a prosecutor for 15 years. It was a common practice for the sheriff or the police to arrest people with outstanding warrants when they left the courtroom.

    2. It’s one the safest places to apprehend a criminal since everyone, but law enforcement, must be disarmed during entry. You’d (arrogantly and stupidly) seem to want him to be apprehended in a far more dangerous locale that could have him armed and leave police and other civilians dead. Pull your head out.

    1. If this is the totality of your concern, it is no wonder that society has lost its way. Human society cannot survive in peace and safety without the civility and decorum of a moral compass (which is the rule of law), not the free ride. Money is never the gauge.

  6. This confuses me – she had a choice? Help remove a guy to a 3rd country and turn a betterer lose on them? Who met deserve a sentence in her court. Or send a guy to do Salvador on charges without due process? He was ordered removed. People in so Salvador may say they got their problem premises because we removed people back into their society and didn’t punish in our jails their crimes. History happened – but for our own souls we can not turn our back on due process!

    1. Or justice. If ice removed this guy to a third country without facing his charges here – intervening ones – all we do is put a battered on them. Alternatively we just presume him guilty we assault our own due process and rule of law. If she committed a crime it was why not a big bond? Did she figure he’d show? Showing would be better than deported? It must of been where he would be sent. And she cared more about her oath and her soul? What else explains?? Except duress? No rational person – she has an explaination. We should hear it. Before we judge too much..

      1. Do you think he became a batterer because he came to the US ?

        If not, they he belongs where he came from.

        Are we barred from sending bad people back to their homes ?
        Those countries had no problems sending them here ?

      2. He was deported 2x at least and re-entered illegally. No need to even hear his case. Period.

    2. It seems that most everyone on the left is confused.

      Due process means that a person cannot be deprived of their legal rights without proper application of the law. The 5th Amendment of the Constitution provides “due process of law,” meaning that a person has certain rights when it comes to being prosecuted for a crime.

      But deportation is a CIVIL MATTER, not a criminal matter. Many people forget (or never knew) this. CIVIL due process is very limited and perfunctory compared to criminal. You do not get Miranda rights. You don’t get a free attorney. If the illegal lives in the U.S., and is not facing deportation due to a criminal conviction, he or she may be eligible for an immigration bond, therefore enjoying freedom from custody while waiting for their hearing. But that’s not the case for most of these people.

      In short, the left is wailing about something of which they don’t even have a basic understanding.

  7. The judge broke the law. She was arrested. She will lose her job, ruined her professional career and damaged the reputation of the legal system. She interfered with a lawful arrest and will lose in court.

    It doesn’t matter how many people sympathize with her illogical actions. In a single moment, she ruined her career all for the sake of a violent criminal who was ultimately apprehended and will be deported.

    End of report. I doubt many more judges will join her. They may talk big but will not risk their careers, especially since the majority of fair minded Americans want these thugs gone.

    It’s that simple.

    1. I beg your pardon. Look at Pakistan – lawyers and judges stood there shoulder to shoulder to beg rule of law. If not us – who? to check band balance. you underestimate the oath judges and officers of the court take – it is not for a job! If everything devolved to a job – we’d have a sick society. Indeed the military doesn’t oath for a JOB. They are poor … by their oath. Judges can go poor too! Don’t think they are owned by a job – they took oaths! Despite an intervening battery you want this thug removed? You don’t care just even caring about the people we would sic him on? Alternatively we jail him like rabid dog without due process? we are America we in fact can do two rights make it right. Not two wrongs. We let him in – it is our duty to punish him if he batteried. Not turn him loose some other country. And we let him in here so we owe our due process. Sure other routes are efficient – but they are not american! The point was to make America great again! Due process makes us great!

      1. You’re rambling about due process. They’re getting due process. The problem is you don’t understand that deportation is a CIVIL NOT CRIIMINAL ACTION. Due process in civil matter is perfunctory and without all the protections you imagine.

    2. E.M.
      It appears Wisconsin SC agrees with you, Wisconsin Supreme Court suspends Milwaukee judge accused of helping illegal migrant evade ICE
      “Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan was arrested by the FBI late last week on obstruction charges, after she allegedly helped Eduardo Flores Ruiz evade arrest by “intentionally [misdirecting] federal agents away from the subject.”

      1. @upstate…
        That’s jumping the gun a bit…

        She’s been charged w a crime. Until she is judged… she will be ineffective as a judge.
        Any decision she makes could be overturned.

        So she is being removed. For now…

        This is done regardless of guilt or innocence.

        -G

  8. “Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick said today that the administration has its first trade deal, but it is not fully finalized. He declined to name the country involved (Freedonia?).”

    No, not Freedonia, I think it’s that island with the penguins. I hear trump threatened to eat the penguins if they didn’t start paying us a nickel for each fish they catch. I’m pretty sure trump backed off on the island with the polar bears. In negotiations the first U.S. representative disappeared when he showed up on the island. When they checked on him only some bones were left with a note that said “Send Donald, we want to talk.”

  9. Why so upset? Is it because your President has become the laughing stock of the international community?

  10. Mike Johnson, the judiciary that Congress established has gone frantically rogue.

    Where are you on the now imperative juridical disestablishmentarianism?

    1. I would be thrilled to see Mike Joh son “go rogue”, among other initiatives. Be still, my heart.

  11. I noticed the date of 1928. At this time the number of Federal statues was approximately 1776. Now there are literally hundreds of thousands. The DOJ picks and chooses which people are to be protected and which people to be charged with both committing the same acts. The situation we have now is everybody is guilty breaking some law. It’s sort of like Christianity and when we commit 7 offenses against God between waking and breakfast.

  12. I would like to take this time to thank Donald J Trump for campaigning for our new Prime Minister. Thank you Donald. Without your loud mouth the racist right wing might have won the election. Your support of the right wing showed the world where you stand, as a FACIST. We stand against you. Again, Thank you Donald J Trump for electing a Liberal to the Canadian Government.

      1. You do know how to use a dictionary? Don’t you? if you are a trump supporter you have my sympathies, I realize that reading and comprehension is hard. Here you go…

        Fascist – someone who supports fascism
        Fascism – a political system based on a very powerful leader, state control, and being extremely proud of country and race, and in which political opposition is not allowed

        1. …. I mean Really Define Fascism (TY for spelling it correctly this time..) it .. not from an elementary dictionary.. although it does a good job touching on the Biden-Harris Admin. penchant for Secretly working to take out any political opposition thru lawfare or thru encouraging violence (Biden’s rhetoric advocating this specifically against Trump) .. other than that.. you have no idea what fascism really is.. else.. you would see that, like him or not, Donald Trump is hardly a fascist. He is President of a nation that still follows the same Constitution it was born with, is still structured with 3 branches of Govt. checks & balances which preclude any authoritarian regime, the main hallmark of fascism. We can see the Executive Branch to which he was elected functioning in a much more Open and visible way than the last Admin… Trump trying toi operate as openly as possible on a daily basis.. with all of Trumps’s broadcasted Open Cabinet Meetings, plethora of Press Conferences, Oval Office events, and interviews (incl. interviews with MSM that are against him).. As for race.. yes there are some extremists who insist it is still 1960 and want to keep that racism alive..however, in Truth it is not an issue, as Many Black, Hispanic and other Minority leaders openly support Trump and as the Election showed.. Trump made more, not less, inroads into the numbers of Blacks, Hispanics and other minorities voting for him as a Republican.. The private sector Press is still Open in this country, writing whatever they want for and against Trump, and he has moved to remove State/Govt. Operated Press, another hallmark of fascism. Thru DOGE, Trump has moved to end the gravy train from the theft of State/Govt. funds enriching the families & assigns of State/Govt. officials in power (either directly or indirectly), esp. thru entities that have become corrupt and distorted far from their original purpose (like USAID).. this enrichment is another hallmark of fascism. Trump takes No Salary, returning the full amount each year to the Govt. Thus, Trump and his Party can hardly be accused of enrichment thru Govt. roles, a huge hallmark of fascism.. And regarding yet another hallmark of fascism, war-mongering, as we’ve seen historically, Trump is trying to stop wars, not start them.. he sends his envoys out with that specific purpose. I could go on… ..to help u see more Truth vs what The Opposition is pounding into your head. Anything else I can help you with here?

    1. AS numerous analysts have pointed out – Trump will have much less difficulty negotiating with Carney than Polieviere.

      Canada made a mistake, though the liberal government is significantly weaker than it was before – and it was really weak before.

      Further they can not afford pretty much anything to go wrong.
      I doubt this government lasts very long.

        1. No.

          Everything is not a Hitler comparison and if you insist on doing them – then don’t just make things up.
          Hitler admired the British and beleived they were natural allies. He did not want to defeat them, he wanted them to join him.
          He did not respect the French and he hated the Russians.

  13. It odd Hannah believes she need an all-star legal team to defend a hero such as herself. She must be nervous. Denial aint just a river in Egypt

    Pay-walled but it reads like a Saul Alinsky / Act Blue bullet point presentation

    😉

    Judge Hannah Dugan has all-star legal team, including ‘LeBron James of lawyers’
    https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/2025/04/29/see-the-legal-players-in-the-case-against-milwaukee-judge-hannah-dugan/83327855007/

    1. Estovir, with men marrying men and children pretending to change genders , it’s clear. It’s time to move to a mountaintop and spend the remaining days in prayer.

  14. Jonathan: DJT is getting out of Dodge today to mark his first 100 days. He is holding a rally at an Air National Guard Base outside Detroit. DJT probably thinks that since he carried Michigan in November he can round up enough MAGA supporters to attend the rally. Her also wants to divert public attention away from all his lies and broken promises–his promise to end the Russia/Ukraine war on day 1, his promise to lower the price of “groceries”, his lie that he has made trade deals with “200 countries” (that’s 20 more countries than he put tariffs on), just to name a few of the trail of broken promises by the Trumpster.

    Everywhere DJT turns people are against him. Canada is just a short walk across a bridge from Detroit. The voters in Canada overwhelming rejected DJT’s pick to take over the government, Pierre Poilievre, a MAGA-like right-wing Conservative who was up as much as 25 points in the polls. But that was before DJT said he wanted to make Canada the “51st state” and started a trade war with our northern neighbor. This outraged Canadian voters and upended what was to be victory for the Conservatives. To add insult to injury Poilievre was outed from his seat in Parliament. Mark Carney is the new PM and will lead the fight against DJT’s tariff war. It’s now “elbows up” in Canada!

    Speaking of polls DJT is in the basement–just about to be flushed into the sewer. No one, even many who voted for him, believes anything thing he says now. The WP-ABC News/Ipsos poll found 2 out of 3 Americans disapprove of DJT’s policies and actions. And it’s not just the WP. Every poll shows DJT way underwater–even in Fox’s latest poll.

    So what is the Emperor’s response to the disastrous poll numbers. Despite his claims that he doesn’t pay attention to the polls they have kept him up late at night. Near midnight last night DJT posted this: “The Polls from the Fake News are, like the News itself, FAKE! We are doing GREAT, better than ever before”. Talk about being out of touch with reality! On Monday DJT accused the pollsters, including those for Fox News, of being “frauds” who suffer from TDS. He said they should be investigated and news outlets are the “ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE”. That’s what Hitler also said about the German press–just before he shut it down!

    1. Poor Denise.
      Trump is going to Michigan to continue to rally support for the GOP in MI.
      Seems that state will flip Red in 2026 midterms.

      But your TDS is bad. Please get help.

      -G

      1. “Seems that state will flip Red in 2026 midterms.”

        hahahahaha
        hahahahahahahahahaha
        hahahahaha
        hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
        hahahahahahahahahaha
        hahahahaha

    2. Hey Dennis,
      Considering that in all the polling that was just reported by your so loving liberal media was incredibly skewed with only 35 to 37 percent of Republicans polled of course you would believe their BS! You know nothing! One the main reason Hitler was able to do what he did is because he has his propaganda machine, the press!! You progressive, liberals are so ass-backwards and filled with so much Trump Derangement Syndrome that you have lost the ability to have common sense! Have a nice day!

      1. trump said he had agreed to 200 trade deals. Where are they?
        Just one of the thousands of lies trump spews on a daily basis.

        1. shut up, he is boing to put them in a package and put them under the Christmas tree and open them on Dec 25 to surprise us all.

    3. Hey Dennis, the judge who tried to hide a criminal illegal alien has been suspended by the Wisconsin Supreme Court. This is the judge that you have so faithfully defended. Apparently your reasoning differs from that of the court. It certainly must be that you’re so damn smart. I can remember when you became an expert on gang tattoos. You’re either a genius or a blanking know it all. I’m going with a blanking know it all who claims he knows everything about everything that is discussed on this forum. Introspection thou be not found in the lexicon of one Dennis McIntyre.

    4. There is really nothing you can not spin.

      Trumps supporters take him seriously but not litterally.
      Left wing nuts take Trump litterally but not seriously.

      Will there be trade deals – I would bet.
      But if there are not – then there will be alot of tariff revenue and lots of manufacturing returning to the US.
      Some may take a great deal of time. Some will be quick.

      I would guess you did not see the CBS pannel of trump voters where they thought some might stop supporting -him.
      Not a single one. Some even said their might be a recession, they do not care. Some pain might be needed to fix the mess democrats have made.

      You said Trump’s polls tanked – yet they did not. in fact according to Rasmussen the only president with higher numbers was Obama and that only for a few months at the start of his term.

      Trump’s polling is higher far higher than Biden who is the worst ever polled
      Trump’s polling is higher than Trump’s first term.
      Trump’s polling is higher than Obama’s except in his first months.
      Trump’s polling is higher than Bushes.

      Rassmussen noted that Trump’s approval has a low ceiling, but a high floor. He can not go down much and he is not likely to go up much.

      Those on the left who hate him – will do so no matter what he accomplishes. While Trump’s supporters trust him no matter what you or the media say. They KNOW who the liars are.

      “The voters in Canada overwhelming rejected DJT’s pick to take over the government, Pierre Poilievre,”
      False, There is no “overwhelming” – Labor lost 25 seats. They are weaker than before, they have little room for error.
      Conservatives won 41% of the vote – just 2% shy of liberals who again will have to form a coalition govenrment.
      Conservatives won their highest vote share in 40 years.
      Poilievre is not “MAGA” and he would have been better suited to negotiate with Trump.
      Carney can not afford NOT to negotiate with Trump – the Canadian economy is a real mess, and the liberals have a fragile hold on power.

      I highly doubt Canada is going “elbows up” – if they do their economy will be ruined quickly.

      You rant about Trump’s 51st stat quips – but the FACT is that Canada is a US dependency. Their most important exports – the US can manage without, and Canada can not sell elsewhere without spending a fortune on ports and pipelines and other infrastructure.

      Canada is dependent on the US. Their economy is dependent on the US.

      You say Trump tanked Poilievre – but fail to consider the possibility he did so deliberately.
      We can not know for sure. What we do know is that Carney has a weak fragile majority and a strong opposition.

      “Speaking of polls DJT is in the basement–just about to be flushed into the sewer. No one, even many who voted for him, believes anything thing he says now. The WP-ABC News/Ipsos poll found 2 out of 3 Americans disapprove of DJT’s policies and actions.”

      Which is why the Right track numbers are the highest they have been in 20 years.
      Dennis – do you understand that no one beleives your polls anymore ?
      These are the same people who Claimed that Harris was going to get 400 EV’s.

      “And it’s not just the WP. Every poll shows DJT way underwater–even in Fox’s latest poll.”
      Actually every poll that was correct about the 2024 Election has Trump doing fine.

      ” DJT posted this: “The Polls from the Fake News are, like the News itself, FAKE! We are doing GREAT, better than ever before”. Talk about being out of touch with reality! On Monday DJT accused the pollsters, including those for Fox News, of being “frauds” who suffer from TDS.”

      Again why should anyone beleive all the same people who predicted Trump would be wiped out by Harris ?
      Yes these people have TDS.

      “That’s what Hitler also said about the German press”
      We got it – everyone you do not like is a Nazi.

      Problem is that it is Democrats who have been censoring and shutting down the press.

      1. John Say,
        Well said. Democrats and the leftists are losing. That is why they have to lie about nearly everything so much.

      1. Lin,
        Dont be “soddy.” How lawless the Democrat party has become needs to be pointed out time and time again.

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