President Donald Trump said on Wednesday he may strip comedian Rosie O’Donnell of her U.S. citizenship. He has made the threat previously, despite having no authority to do so. In the United States, political critics cannot be stripped of their citizenship, and pursuing such a course would be a fundamental denial of constitutional protections not only under the 14th Amendment but also under the 1st Amendment.
This week, the President stated on Truth Social that “As previously mentioned, we are giving serious thought to taking away Rosie O’Donnell’s Citizenship. She is not a Great American and is, in my opinion, incapable of being so!”
When I previously objected that such a move would be grossly unconstitutioal, supporters insisted that Trump was simply trolling opponents. However, the threat of an unconstitutional act only reinforces the narratives of O’Donnell, who has engaged in false claims and conspiracy theories on social media.
O’Donnell has trolled Trump after fleeing the country in protest to live in Ireland. Most recently, she was widely criticized for claiming that the shooter at the Minnesota Catholic church was “a white guy, Republican, MAGA person. White supremacist.” She later apologized, but added, “I assumed, like most shooters, they followed a standard MO and had standard, you know, feelings of… you know, NRA-loving kind of gun people.”
Spreading disinformation is not grounds for losing your citizenship and would create a dangerous precedent. Indeed, President Trump rightfully objected to Democrats trying to strip him from ballots in the last election. To now claim the right to strip political opponents of their actual citizenship only surrenders the high ground to his critics.
However, Trump has also threatened to rescind the citizenship of former White House adviser Elon Musk and even New York City Democratic mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani. Both Musk and Mamdani were born outside the country, but received U.S. citizenship through a legal process.
There are narrow circumstances under which a naturalized citizen can be stripped of citizenship, but those circumstances do not include their political views.
In 1967, the Supreme Court handed down Afroyim v. Rusk, declaring that U.S. citizens can only lose their citizenship by voluntarily relinquishing it, or where citizenship was gained by fraud.
Beys Afroyim was born in Poland and the U.S. government sought to strip him of citizenship after learning that he had cast a vote in an Israeli election. The Supreme Court ruled that his status remained protected under the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution.
Likewise, in Trop v. Dulles in 1958, the Court ruled that the government could not strip Albert Trop of his citizenship after he escaped from an Army stockade in Casablanca, Morocco. While he turned himself in the next day, the government argued that (since the country was engaged in a war and Trop was dishonorably discharged), it could revoke his status despite being a natural-born citizen.
Chief Justice Earl Warren wrote that such punishment ran afoul of the Eighth Amendment and constituted “a form of punishment more primitive than torture” since it amounts to the “total destruction of the individual’s status in organized society.”
Trump may wish to challenge Trop, but there is no indication that the Supreme Court would seriously consider such a departure from the long-standing precedent. That is even less likely where the effort is based on retaliation for political criticism of the President.
I used to find Trump’s hyperbole off-putting, now that I understand the logic behind it, it mainly elicits laughter. I do not think he has any intention of following through, they know they’d lose in court. It pales in comparison to dem chicanery of the last ten years that has actually been employed if not embraced with knowledge of same (28th amendment, student loans, rogue judiciary, anyone? Let’s not even get started on covid).
Thus far nothing this administration has done has been outside their purview, it isn’t a ‘new normal’ or ‘totalitarian’ to enforce or utilize our existing laws (unless one has no recollection of the USA prior to Obama, which many don’t at this point) but rather a return to normal, and the MSM exaggerate more in 30 seconds every day than Trump could in a lifetime.
Rosie is not well, but she is perfectly safe, and TDS is a very real phenomena. Would love to know what the Irish people think of her behind closed doors given how much they ridicule someone like Bono.
“Thus far nothing this administration has done has been outside their purview, it isn’t a ‘new normal’ or ‘totalitarian’ to enforce or utilize our existing laws…”
Nearly everything he has done is outside his purview. His “emergency” declarations have just recently been deemed unlawful or unconstitutional. Sending troops to California has been declared unconstitutional. His attempts at firing Fed Reserve board members have been ruled illegal and/or beyond his authority. He wants to take away birthright citizenship and revoke naturalized citizenship of their citizenship for minor violations of law as an excuse to remove legal immigrants.
There are a lot of things Trump has done that are outside his purview because he wants to do what he admires most. The ability to do what he wants regardless of what the law says like dictators do. He’s a big fan of people like Kim Jung Un, Putin, Salvador’s president, etc. All dictators are in their own right.
The policies he pushes are all geared for authoritarian rule like punishing people with the harshest possible penalty for minor offenses he wants to interpret as disloyal and un-American.
His declining health and mental acuity are not helping either.
@X
Uh-huh.
You are slipping George. Nothing in your comment is even worth responding to.
Yesterday X/George/Svelaz proclaimed that PILOTS, and not the FBO, are responsible for weighing and screening the contents of passenger luggage.
Beahahahaha what an ignorant stooge.
“His attempts at firing Fed Reserve board members have been ruled illegal and/or beyond his authority.”
That statement is as accurate as your claim that Maxwell was convicted of perjury. There is no such ruling.
Next up: Your whirling dervish attempts to deny deny writing what you wrote.
His “emergency” declarations have just recently been deemed unlawful or unconstitutional. Sending troops to California has been declared unconstitutional.
By rogue district judges who know they’ll be overturned, but also know they will never suffer any consequences for deliberately sabotaging the president. Well, we’ll see about that.
His attempts at firing Fed Reserve board members have been ruled illegal and/or beyond his authority.
No, they haven’t. Not even by a rogue district judge.
He wants to take away birthright citizenship
This is true, and he’s wrong on that one.
and revoke naturalized citizenship of their citizenship for minor violations of law as an excuse to remove legal immigrants.
He has expressed no such desire. Naturalization, once validly obtained, can’t ever be revoked no matter what the person does later. Green cards, however, can be revoked if the person commits any crime, no matter how minor. A green card is a courtesy, not a right, and it’s granted on condition that the recipient keeps all the laws.
Good for you, James. The President uses hyperbole to take unbalanced Democrats and make them more unbalanced. As you have seen, George Svelaz started as a nutcase, and his lies make it impossible for him to maintain one alias.
I doubt you understand what “hyperbole” means. President Trump goes on to make threats against those he sees as critics and opponents. His mental acuity has been visibly on the decline lately and his tendency to issue dictatorial threats is not hyperbole. He’s serious about eliminating birthright citizenship and revoking citizenship from naturalized citizens because he sees their criticism as disloyal. President Trump has always called for punishing those who criticize or mock him. He has threatened and demanded to take away broadcast licenses from networks because they are spreading fake news about him or putting out unflattering criticism.
President Trump is attacking the free speech of others to shut down dissent.
For your information I don’t go by any other alias here. I never have. Clearly I am being confused as someone else. If you are having trouble making distinctions perhaps I should be more worried about your capacity to recognize reality.
“I doubt you understand what ‘hyperbole’ means.”
Can you back that up? Of course not. Your stupidity keeps making you look like a fool.
“His mental acuity has been visibly on the decline lately.”
Prove it. What you’ve actually proven is that you can’t handle facts.
Your frantic mixing of half-truths and false claims shows your head is about to blow up again. Soon, the latest alias will collapse. George Svelaz morphing into ‘X’, and you’ll crawl back with yet another name. Anyone with the patience to look back can find the long trail of discarded identities. The only thing that remains constant is your idiocy.
S. Meyer, “I doubt you understand what ‘hyperbole’ means.”
Can you back that up? Of course not. Your stupidity keeps making you look like a fool.”
You avoided an easy answer on your part. If you knew what it means you would have provided a definition. It shows you are not very smart.
“His mental acuity has been visibly on the decline lately.”
Prove it. What you’ve actually proven is that you can’t handle facts.”
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TTzIsrHyEXE?feature=share
Tell me how does that make sense. Or this one,
“He’s a terrible Fed chair. I was surprised he was appointed.”—Donald Trump.
Why would he be surprised? He appointed him in his first term.
Those are a few facts. There are plenty of more examples online.
I don’t know who George Svelaz is. If you are confusing me with this person its a safe bet that you are not a stable individual.
“You avoided an easy answer on your part. “
No, I did what everyone should do when dealing with you. Treat you like the garbage you are. Along with being stupid, you are a liar and an antisemite. No one needs to answer your questions; you intentionally waste people’s time.
“https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TTzIsrHyEXE?feature=share”
You want people to look at videos because you are too ignorant to make your point. Go ahead and argue based on your video. I’m listening and waiting. You can’t because you are an ignorant FOOL.
You are a sick dude. Remember, it’s much harder to keep track of lies than to tell the truth. You have proven that time and again.
S. Meyer the liar, you wanted proof and I gave you proof. You are too stupid to look because you can’t explain why Trump is saying stupid things like how he is going to lower prescription drug prices 100%, 1000% even 1300%. How does that work S. Meyer the liar?
Have you found the immigration laws you say you showed? All this time you could have got it done by now. Of course you cannot because you are a liar and stupid.
You still don’t know what an antisemite is. S. Meyer the liar is still running away from his claims. Because he’s too dumb to figure it out.
Trump’s comments are sometimes exaggerated but real. Your comments are stupid lies.
Why would you think I don’t know what an antisemite is after everything I have written about antisemitism and Israel? You are just lying again and have nothing to say.
We all know its you George. How pathetic of you to lie about it.
Same as when you denied being Svelaz, you have several times alluded to “MANY” past Turley articles.
If you’ve never been here, why do you have knowledge of Turley’s past writings?
Are you trying to claim that you’ e been lurking here for years, and all of a sudden, you can’t shut up?
You made the same slip up when you changed from George to Svelaz.
Just like George and Svelaz, you are always the expert and always contrary to Turley.
Ignorant stooge. There can be only one. Lmao.
There are many readers of Turley’s articles that never post on the blog. You can read past articles anytime. That’s why he has millions of views.
You, could George, but you didn’t
You have intimate knowledge of Turleys writings, and the postings from the regulars here
Posting as anonymous right now still won’t help
Where do you see the numbers of views listed, George?
“I don’t go by any other alias here. I never have.”
You’re lying. Others know you’re lying. You know they know you’re lying. Yet you continue lying.
Then you worsen your psychopathology with projection: That others “should be more worried about your capacity to recognize reality.”
Sam,
Good one!!
Sam, it is clear that a lot of people here can’t make distinctions. When trolls get called out they lash out in the worst possible ways. Speaking in their “language” suddenly becomes an outrage or reason to call everyone who challenges their views or comments a liar and accuse them of being others. I’ve seen how others disotort reality when they are cornered or treated the same way they treat others. It’s only fair to mock them using their own “language”. Also if they can’t differentiate between people they interact with then a little fun is in order. I can tell some have already gone nuts or gone into endless rabbit holes of nonsense.
“I’ve seen how others disotort [sic] reality . . .”
Perhaps you should try some introspection. Though that might be too frightening.
@X
The irony here is much too thick to try to cut with a knife. You are hilarious.
‘Do you suspect foul play?’,
‘No, a chicken couldn’t do this.’.
@S. Meyer
It took time to come to the realization, it was jarring initially during his first term. The abject ugliness of the left in the time since makes Trump look like Wilford Brimley selling oatmeal in the 80s, and it is crystal clear that A) Trump jokes a lot, and, B) the modern left is precisely one-thousand percent too serious and bereft of anything resembling a sense of humor or a sense of fairness. They really are spoiled children that want to take their toys home in a huff, at heart, or worse, bully everyone else, nearly universally in 2025. Given the grayness of the remaining 17% that approve, clearly this began with many in the Hippy generation.
And also, yes, I suspect George is also ‘Anonymous’; the Professor is actually mistaken but for occasionally during a troll bombing, in thinking the site has ‘trolls’, plural. There is mainly one very sick and sad person that has haunted the blog for years under various guises, who clearly has nothing better to do.
Appreciate the salience and sanity of you and most others.
Many decent people felt like you, and then had a sudden recognition of what happened. Trump would not have entered politics except for the “ugliness of the left” and the lack of action on the right. Our legislators were not prepared to act for the people, preferring to act for themselves.
George Svelaz is the waste product of the left, which is left behind whenever the left advances or retreats. I thank you for your thoughtful comment and thank you for your decency, something that is relatively rare today.
When decency fails, sometimes people have to take off their jackets and ties, roll up their sleeves, and prepare to roll in the dirt. In 2016, too few were willing.
S. Meyer the liar cannot back up his claims. It’s as simple as that. When confronted with the failure he resorts to insults and gaslighting and avoidance by blaming the “left”. This is what ignorance and cowardice looks like.
Except for the truth, what did I say that was insulting?
James,
I believe you to be correct in you assessment that the one annony moron responds to it’s own comments to make it look like many people agree with his moronic comments. Would not be surprised if the slow and dumb one was also the annony moron too.
@Usptate
Oh, at this point, having read this blog for years, I have no doubt. That they are still around only further cements the Professor’s and his colleagues’ commitment to free speech. This idiot annoys us every day, all day. We carry on as we will, and as we must. Before these types of public forums, they *might* have been on a street corner ranting, but even that requires a modicum of courage. Angry letters to the editor from their cave would have been more likely, and back then, likely with a quick rebuke followed by throwing any further letters right into the circular file.
Trump is his own worst enemy sometimes. Rosie is odious, nasty, mean and unstable so there is no reason to punch down this way. Why does a guy that is so competent at getting results (see the border, Iran, energy, covid vaccine, peace agreements etc) seem to be incapable of staying on message, refraining from embellishment and saying rediculous things about everything and just keep doing a good job for America?
Is is maddening the way that Trump acts like a juvenile one day while solving major issues the next. He is much better for the nation than a Biden or a Harris (or any Democrat for that matter) but I do wish he had a little more Reagan and a little less PT Branum.
Much better? have you heard him speak? Yesterday who got caught flat out lying about why he was missing for a few days. Contradicting himself within 30 seconds and acting like he was not aware the public thought he died.
Trump rants incoherently on his truth social platform and making zero sense. He speaks with the mind of a toddler barely able to read. It’s embarrasing and it shows on the faces of those who make up his cabinet.
He seems perfectly fine to me.
You are starting to sound unhinged.
100% agree
Really this is kind of a wasted column. We all know Rosie cannot be stripped of her citizenship and so does the President. Rosie had been too quiet of late and even admitted a mistake. Better just to troll her periodically so she flares on demand and reminds everybody how addled she is and makes her a perfect spokesman for the DNC.
She had been loud and mouth long before Trump appeared on the scene and has always been somewhat unpleasant. She is almost as addled as Robin Wright, who thinks the entire US looks and acts like Los Angeles.
Good one. Knowing she’s a has-been, it’s no wonder it keeps opening her big mouth just to stay relevant.
For those who admire Trump, they understand his hyperbolic statements are just that and little else. For those who dislike Trump, this is another excuse to affirm their derangement syndrome. As for Rosie, she doesn’t look or sound well and may be heading for the barn anyway. Do not read her Wikipedia page or it will ruin your whole day. Rosie is a very sad and troubled woman who wasted her life being hateful as a way to make up for her dysfunctional childhood and family life. Maybe she will find meaning and wisdom at the end of her life in the land of her ancestors. Trump should just leave her alone and nature will take its course, probably sooner rather than later. The Beatles sung, “Money Can’t Buy Me Love.” Rosie proved it.
Wiki? I do not believe anyone cares what her life story is. Always some defect like her playing the pity card.
The faster her demise, the better for the world.
Wonder if the Brits have had enough of her?
Anon: She’s living in Glengarry — a suburb of Dublin, which is the capital of the Republic of Ireland. Why would the “Brits” have any interest in what happens in Ireland?
I agree Professor Turley, but it’s NOT a bad idea!!
Professor Turley is correct regarding 47’s inability to successfully strip Rosie (“The Loon”) O’Donnell of her citizenship, but he errs in characterizing Albert Trop in the SCOTUS case bearing his name as being a “natural-born citizen.”
As both the Second Circuit and Supreme Court opinions confirm, Trop was a native-born citizen rather than a natural born citizen, at least as contemplated by the Founders. Only a natural born Citizen may serve as President.
While this error does not affect O’Donnell (who, mercifully, has not announced a run for the presidency), the issue could surface for examination when the Supreme Court addresses the “birthright citizenship” matters now strolling through the lower courts. On the other hand, given the Court’s prior insouciance on the topic, do not bet the farm that such an examination will actually happen. With few exceptions, the Court relishes the avoidance of answers to controversial questions.
I can say with 100% assuredness that, however the Birthright Citizenship matter is finally resolved, it will NOT involve stripping persons of US Citizenship who’ve already been been granted it, even if under a situation of ambiguity later settled towards a more restrictive posture. Why do I know this? Because BOTH Trump’s E.O. and H.R. 569 — both restricting which newborns are eligible — only apply going forward. There is no retroactive impact.
That said, the Democrat antagonists will bellow using the present tense that US Citizenship is being stripped from babies not even conceived yet. How can you take away something not yet conferred? Logic has no particular role to play in Dem sloganeering.
Trump looks foolish posting such rubbish on Truth Social — why can’t he act Presidential? He posts on social media like a 14-year-old does. When he stoops to this level, he disgraces the Office and lowers foreigners’ respect for the U.S. It is not without cost, as some naive commenters view him as Entertainer-in-Chief pretend.
US citizenship is not “conferred” or “granted”. It comes naturally, by right of birth. Anyone born in the USA is automatically a US citizen, with the SOLE exception of those who are born immune to US law, because their parents have diplomatic immunity, or are part of an invading army, and I think there’s also an exception for babies born on foreign-flagged ships that are transiting through US waters with no plan to land in the USA.
“Native-born” and “natural-born” are the same thing.
What a bunch of Mary’s, the man knows exactly how to get a rise out of the weenies.
@Margo Ballhere, l think you nailed it. When President Trump puts his lounge in his cheek to announce his thought about O’Donnell, we’re hearing the setup for an old joke. “Ive been thinking a lot about quitting drinking and decided to give it up.” “So you’re giving up Drinking?” “No. Thinking about it. “
Mike,
Good one!
Do we have to be imposed upon constantly about a f*t, st*pid lesbian’s life crisies?
Tissue, Svetlana?
Trump is trolling excitable liberals and they fall for it every single time, showing their stupidity. I actually find that somewhat amazing, most people learn after being fooled so many times, but not liberals
Jake,
That right there!
When a thing like O’Donnell, a talentless and washed-up, I guess ranting and raving about Trump is a definite scream for attention.
Now, answer this, what has O’Donnell ever done for society that can trump what Trump has done in his lifetime?
He is a serial liar. He is a self aggrandizing blowhard whose primary concern is advancing his own agenda and interests. Ronald Reagan had an intellectual framework which guided his actions. Likewise the misguided Obama. The only framework that guides Trump is braggadocio and bluster. I fear for the future of this great Republic with wannabe dictator at the helm
With any luck Trump’s penchant to trigger the mentally week and emotional snowflakes, will cause them to self-immolate. but they wont because they don’t believe in anything they preen about
Another blind leftie that goes beyond a normal mentality! Trump is the only one who is between us and Communism! That is the direction of the Dems, who are nit Dems anymore, they are the Communist Party. Since you cannot see that, even after 4 tears of Biden, and starting with 8 yrs of Obama, then obviously you don’t see well at all. Check yourself into rehab!!
That’ s cult thinking. America is chock full of great leadership. They just aren’t publicity-craving narcissists. The media simply ignores normal people. That will be our downfall unless corrected.
Get a grip on yourself. Trump is the only person between us and COMMUNISM! It’s obvious the left has no clue what a Dictatorship, Socialism, Fascism, Communism, Totalitarian, Authoritarian governments are. They just throw words out there. But I do and I was from a Cimmunist country, thus country was on the cusp of Communism before Trump came into office this time. I wondered why so many burn Americans were against him and I figured it out, they just do not know any better. They do not understand as much as they think they do. Well, if the so called left wants any of the above, they are the dillusional fools!
Oh boy, someone is triggered this morning. Reagan an intellectual? Obama too? They sure fooled me.
You still haven’t grasped why Trump speaks out directly about issues. Its an effective tool that riles his haters. But lets no forget what Obama and Biden did over the past 15 years. I suppose you think they had duty to attack him and the MAGAS, so no holes barred …
So if Trump speaks, its all lies. You call it BS. Read the news lately?
If you think the Office of the President of the United States of America must have dignified persons representing it, then you have been fooled.
Obama drove the office into the swamp intentionally; it lost all dignity and meaning for most Americans. And what did Biden do to earn Americans respect?
At least Obama chose his words carefully. He avoided saying outrageous things just to get attention.
That didn’t spare him from foreign policy blunders, or reigniting racial animosities in the US.
He was more dignified. Trump lacks polish, almost as if he doesn’t care what others think of him or of the United States. He can’t drop the entertainer shtick.
“He was more dignified. Trump lacks polish, almost as if he doesn’t care what others think of him or of the United States. He can’t drop the entertainer shtick.”
Or….he’s just an idiot who go beyond being an idiot.
Obama was providing spit and polish while he was trashing our country and fundamentally changing it forever. I would rather have the person that speaks his mind honestly and tries as hard as possible to get this country back on the right track.
The fact that you continue to show up at this site and trash not only Professor Turley, President Trump as well as other, shows that you are indeed bothered by his honesty in his love for this country no matter how it come out of his mouth.
LongGreyHair,
You got that right!
Reagan was certainly an intellectual. Even his enemies, who derided him as a fool all his life, finally had to shut up when his letters were published. Of course anyone who was paying attention knew about his intellectual prowess from the beginning.
John Jansen, he is all of that and yet in objective terms he has been a better president than Reagan. He’s managed to achieve more than Reagan could. And as you say an intellectual framework isn’t all it’s cracked up to be, since even 0bama had one.
And while your first sentence is true, I don’t see any sign that he’s a “wannabe dictator”. He’s certainly not an actual dictator.
Well, he could just declare a national security emergency. Apparently, that’s enough to suspend normal interpretation of laws and the constitution.
COVID was indeed a gift from Satan to the Democrats for raining down fire and brimstone on Americans, without a second thought to the US Constitution, legal precedents, case law, nor the health and well beings of children and the elderly.
The elderly were the great beneficiaries of Covid policy. The children were the sacrificial lambs. I guess it comes down to who wields more political power.
The absolute genius of President Trump: He knows exactly how to push the buttons of the media and his political opponents; to distract them away from his real priorities
I never understood why he, or any politician, would waste political capital on something such as this, even if trolling. It doesn’t play well in Peoria, as they used to say
Sometimes I do wish he would shut up. Not every thought needs to be expressed!
He can’t shut up. He needs to be petty and vindictive in order to assert his authority a president.
What is your opinion on all the Dems have done, are still doing and will continue to do? I’d say way beyond petty and vindictive! TRY CRIMINAL!
Rosie O’Donnell is a miserably unhappy person looking for attention. Trump and the media should just ignore her. That would be punishment enough for her ridiculous opinions and statements.
“Rosie O’Donnell is a miserably unhappy person looking for attention. Trump and the media should just ignore her. ”
Exactly. We cannot rescind free speech liberties for a pathetic st’unt such as O’Donnell without impairing those liberties for the rest of us. That doesn’t mean that anyone should grant her the slightest bit of attention, any more than we should interview insane asylum inmates and indiscriminately splash their rantings all over the internet. That admonition includes our host here. There would seem to be no lack of worthy controversial topics for Turley to write about. One wonders why he ignored all of those in favor of this inanity. Of course, the same could be said of Trump. Why bother threatening a thoroughly discredited idiot with a radically diminished audience? Shallow ego gratification from successful trolling aside, I would think that he also should have better things on which to expend his time and energy.
“When I previously objected that such a move would grossly unconstitutioal, supporters insisted that Trump was simply trolling of opponents.”
It seems no one is proofreading the Professor’s article.
President Trump is not trolling; his threats are serious. His administration is well known for demanding harsh punishments for minor offenses—like seeking felony charges for throwing a sandwich at a law enforcement officer or for causing an FBI agent to scratch his hand on a wall during an arrest. They also attempted to press felony charges against a congresswoman for bumping into an ICE agent during a protest. These are not isolated incidents but part of a broader strategy to instill fear and suppress dissent.
I agree with Professor Turley that Trump lacks the authority to revoke citizenship as he claims. This reflects his authoritarian approach to punishing critics. The same theme appears in the treatment of university students protesting Israeli policies against Palestinians, where students face deportation for their political beliefs—clearly violating their First Amendment rights.
Recently, grand juries have rejected many of these excessive charges. The frequency of refusals to indict highlights the lawlessness of the administration’s actions.
Says the idiot who couldnt define perjury.
“The same theme appears in the treatment of university students protesting Israeli policies against Palestinians, where students face deportation for their political beliefs—clearly violating their First Amendment rights.”
George Svelaz, once again, you demonstrate your antisemitism by continuously using Israel as a foil in your arguments. No one is being deported because of political beliefs. They are being deported because they are illegal aliens.
You were shown the laws and ran away (including immigration laws), but you keep coming back. Is that because you are a liar, or is it because you are stupid?
S. Meyer, you continue to not make sense.
“No one is being deported because of political beliefs. They are being deported because they are illegal aliens.”
Do you understand that I’m referring to Khalil and Ozturk? Two students and LEGAL immigrants were punished for exercising their free speech. rights. One who Criticizing Israel is not antisemitic. You obviously don’t understand what antisemitism means.
“You were shown the laws and ran away (including immigration laws), but you keep coming back. Is that because you are a liar, or is it because you are stupid?‘
What are you even talking about here? How old are you really?
“Do you understand that I’m referring to Khalil and Ozturk? Two students and LEGAL immigrants were punished for exercising what they claim were free speech rights.”
More lies, or just outright stupidity. The issue isn’t their legal status; it’s that our immigration laws, which I already showed you, clearly outline why they can (and should) be deported. Your refusal to acknowledge those laws, or even attempt to debate them, is why you’ve made yourself a functional leper on this blog.
You are both an antisemite and an idiot. And because you’re an idiot, you’ve become easy prey for those who truly hate Jews.
S. Meyer, “The issue isn’t their legal status; it’s that our immigration laws, which I already showed you, clearly outline why they can (and should) be deported. ”
What laws?! You have not shown me anything! I’ve never had this alleged conversation you think we had.
Both Khalil and Osturk did not violate any immigration rules. They were punished for exercising their free speech rights. The administration sought to deport them because the President didn’t like what they were saying about Israel. That is not a crime.
I will happily debate the laws you say you told me but I have no idea what you even said because you and I have never had any debate or argument prior to this one about those two students. Name the laws that say they can be deported because they criticized Israel and we can have that discussion. I have the time. Let’s see where that takes us.
By the way, what makes you think I’m an antisemite? What have I said that is antisemitic? When or where have I said I hate Jews?
“What laws?! You have not shown me anything! I’ve never had this alleged conversation you think we had.”
This is another demonstration of George Svelaz’s lies. He intentionally tries to make others waste time by looking things up for him. Instead of working for him, I prefer to simply call him ignorant and a liar because that saves time. Everyone else on the blog knows that is true.
Khalil violated the immigration statute, but you wish to pretend he didn’t. You use lies instead of facts.
“I will happily debate the laws you say you told me”
Good, now you can look up the immigration codes, post them, and then debate. You will not do that because you know that you are a liar.
“what makes you think I’m an antisemite? “
Your use of Israel as a foil. Now pick your pants up and find the immigration code.
S. Meyer, “Khalil violated the immigration statute, but you wish to pretend he didn’t. You use lies instead of facts.”
What statute?! You claimed you showed me the laws. What law did you show me?
“This is another demonstration of George Svelaz’s lies. He intentionally tries to make others waste time by looking things up for him. Instead of working for him, I prefer to simply call him ignorant and a liar because that saves time. Everyone else on the blog knows that is true.”
So you are now making excuses for not being able to provide the laws that you claim you did. You never showed me any laws. What laws are you talking about? I have absolutely no idea what you said to this other person and now you think I’m George Svelaz. Wow.
“Good, now you can look up the immigration codes, post them, and then debate. You will not do that because you know that you are a liar.”
I don’t think you undestand that I have never debated this with you. I am not George Svelaz.
You made the claim that you showed the laws. So show them and we can debate the issue. What are the laws or statutes you showed to George Svelaz?
“ what makes you think I’m an antisemite? “
Your use of Israel as a foil. Now pick your pants up and find the immigration code.“
What does Israel have anything to do with making me an antisemite? Talking or criticizing Israel is not antisemitic. What makes it antisemitic S. Meyer? You don’t fully explain that.
Cite the laws you claim you showed George Svelaz that prove Khalil or Ozturk violated that merited deportation.
” What law did you show me?”
Look up the laws and then debate. You are playing dumb, which is sort of funny because everyone knows you are stupid.
There is no need to explain to you why you are an antisemite. That is readily apparent to most who have the bare minimum of intelligence.
S. Meyer,
“You are playing dumb, which is sort of funny because everyone knows you are stupid.”
And WHAM!! S. Meyer delivers the hay maker, TKO of the slow and dumb one!!!
How marvelous!!
S. Meyer the liar, “There is no need to explain to you why you are an antisemite. That is readily apparent to most who have the bare minimum of intelligence.”
You don’t know what antisemitism is and you cannot show what I have said or done that is antisemitic. Casting accusations without proof is slander.
I know you are thowing slanderoud accusations to avoid providing the immigration laws you claim you showed. You should have been able to show them by now, but you cannot because you lied.
What immigration laws did you cite S. Meyer?
“you cannot show what I have said or done that is antisemitic.”
I told you what you said that pointed to antisemitism in your comment. Then I said, “Now pick your pants up and find the immigration code.”
Apparenlty S. Meyer is a liar and ran away from his claim.
Nope FOOL, the laws remain prominent on the net.
George
Please stop pretending. Its beneath even a stooge like you.
“I’m referring to Khalil and Ozturk?”
Funny, because George couldnt shut up about Kahlil and Ozturk either.
Just another coincidence???
Come on George, why dont you grow up and stop pretending its not you. We all know, so why the charade?
Criticizing Israel’s right to exist is antisemitic. There is no possible reason, other than antisemitism, why anyone would oppose zionism and yet support the “palestinian” cause. Every non-antisemitic argument against zionism works doubly against the “palestinians”. Therefore anyone who supports the “palestinians” and denies Israel’s right to exist and to defend itself is an antisemite.
It seems that no one is proofreading Georgie’s thoughts, statements, reading comprehension, and context.
“It seems no one is proofreading the Professor’s article.”
“. . . is well known for . . .”
Your “well known” is a compound adjective, and should be: well-known.
“—like seeking felony charges for throwing a sandwich at a law enforcement officer or for causing . . .”
Your punctuation is completely muddled. Try an em dash after “officer.” Or just rewrite that ponderous thought.
If you wish to be a grammar scold, don’t make such obvious errors.
OMG….
Prez Trump is pulling her chain and all the fools fell for it.
He has been doing this to the MSN for years, and these folks never catch on… Typical libs (brain power is lacking)
No, he’s not joking around. That’s not something to take lightly, even from a president. If President Biden were to say that, his critics would definitely be outraged over what they would perceive as a simple “trolling.” Governor Newsome has been trolling President Trump mercilessly and Trump’s supporters are taking it seriously enought to complain about it. How Ironic.
Stephen Miller, who has the support of Trump, has been advocating for the revocation of citizenship of naturalized citizens over minor offenses. It’s clear that Miller wants to deport legal immigrants and those who have been naturalized as punishent or retribution for percieved disloyalties because they dared to express criticism of the president’s policies and actions.
look who didn’t get laid yet again. Don’t the AI generated figures do it for you or do you insist on little boys for your nasty occupation?
X
No, he’s not joking around
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Grow up, he’s playing you libs for fools.I’m loving it. Just look at whet you written. Jezzzzzzzzzzzzzz
DustOff,
Exactly!!
During his first admin, I was in the airport and unfortunately, CNN was on every TV. Trump tweeted something and in the span of about ten minutes, yes, they spent that much time on it, they twisted the tweet into something totally else.
Professor Turley is absolutely right on the law, and though I think this is mere rhetorical excess on President Trump’s part, I often wish he’d be a bit more measured in his remarks.
I do believe, though, that the worst assaults on the acknowledgements and guarantees of the Constitution come from across the aisle. Which is why I voted Trump twice (for neither major party candidate in 2016).
“Spreading disinformation is not grounds for losing your citizenship and would create a dangerous precedent.”
I don’t know. Maybe citizens should lose their citizenship for spreading lies, especially when they attack our glorious president.
For example, the odious imbecile who kept accusing our president of being born in another country should definitely lose his citizenship, especially after dismissing the release of a birth certificate as fake in order to stir up actionable ignorance in his favor.
And I think, ah yes: it was that same grift-machine dumbbell who said legal immigrants were eating cats and dogs, that shining a light inside the body will kill Covid (thank you, President Xi, for working so hard), and that elections were stolen (e.g., Ted Iowa/Cancun Cruz, and day-of-love-by-attacking-police-officers January 6).
So let’s revoke and deport.
(King Moron doth protest too much.)
..good argument, Sir.. yet…..personally… it feels like Pres. Trump is just venting.. as annoying & lowlife as ultra hate critics like Rosei are.. he’s got much bigger fish to catch & fry than worrying about her.. when crows keep pecking away.. it’s best to ultimately just fly higher than they can….
President Trump can’t get past his need to be petty. He just can’t. It’s not in his nature to be above that.
You can’t get past your TDS, it is very noticeable.
So, what do you say about Dems who would do anything to get their way, and assassination was one if those things! Or, all the lawlessness under reign, open borders, ranking the economy, weaponizing the DOJ and FBI against Conservative views, to mention just a few things! I’ like to know where u stand o.n those issues! I like Trump! Do I agree with all he does, No! But I recognize he is for ALL AMERICAN citizens, not just those that agree with him. I see how he’s trying to fix a Democrat intentionally ruined country. I see that. I see how he is partner with Netanyahu against Palestine. I am totally against that! I hate the genocide, I see how he fights back against the Dems, which God knows, he should, but i don’t always like it. The difference is I SEE! I do not have the sickness the left and Dems have for ANYONE who disagrees with them. I see what Trump does. On the same note, Trump does not have the hatred in him that the Dems and Left do! Your hate is way beyond NORMAL!!