“You Can’t Handle the Truth”: UK Health Watchdog Reportedly Refuses to Release Data on Vaccine Deaths

The United Kingdom’s public health service is reportedly refusing to release data on the potential relationship between the COVID vaccine and excess deaths. The reason? It would upset people to know the truth. The question is whether British citizens have become so passive and yielding that they will support their government, keeping them from learning the facts about vaccines and allowing them to reach their own conclusions.

The UK has long embraced speech controls and censorship to protect citizens from unacceptable views or what one criminal defendant was told were “toxic ideologies.”

Social media companies assisted governments in censoring opposing scientific views during the pandemic, including those regarding the potential dangers of the vaccines.

Over the years, dissenting faculty members have been forced out of scientific and academic organizations for challenging preferred conclusions on subjects ranging from transgender transitions to COVID-19 protections to climate change. Some were barred from speaking at universities or blacklisted for their opposing views.

Many of the exiled experts were ultimately proven correct in challenging the efficacy of surgical masks or the need to shut down our schools and businesses. Scientists moved like a herd of lemmings on the origin of the virus, crushing those who suggested that the most likely explanation is a lab leak (a position that federal agencies would later embrace).

Scientists have worked with the government in suppressing dissenting views. For example, The Wall Street Journal released a report on how the Biden administration suppressed dissenting views supporting the lab leak theory, as dissenting scientists were blacklisted and targeted.

When experts within the Biden Administration found that the lab theory was the most likely explanation for COVID-19, they were told not to share their data publicly and were warned about being “off the reservation.”

Universities and associations joined the crackdown. Scientists questioning the efficacy of those blue surgical masks and the six-foot rule were suppressed. So were those arguing that we should, as in Europe, keep schools open. These experts were also later vindicated, but few were rehired or reestablished in universities or associations.

It was all done in the name of protecting the public from opposing views or data.

The UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) shows that little has changed. According to the Telegraph, the agency declared that releasing the data would lead to the “distress or anger” of bereaved relatives if a link were to be discovered. It also suggested that the data might stress or undermine the mental health of the families and friends of people who died.

The story has received little attention in the media, which previously joined efforts to suppress opposing views during the pandemic.

We have no idea what the data actually says, but there should be uniform agreement that the public has a right to know.

The controversy is reminiscent of the position of the British courts on sharing information with patients. In the United States, there is a strong common law in favor of disclosing to patients any risks or complications associated with possible treatments or surgeries. In the UK, the courts took a more deferential view of doctors. As with the agency’s position, the rationale was hard for many in the United States to comprehend, let alone accept. For example, in Sidaway v. Bethlem Royal Hospital (1985), the court rejected the need for a surgeon to inform a patient of a low risk of nerve damage from a laminectomy, writing:

“I confess that I reach this conclusion with no regret. The evidence in this case showed that a contrary result would be damaging to the relationship of trust and confidence between doctor and patient, and might well have an adverse effect on the practice of medicine.  It is doubtful whether it would be of any significant benefit to patients, most of whom prefer to put themselves unreservedly in the hands of their doctors.”

The decision to withhold the data on vaccines shows the same arrogant assumptions. If I had a loved one who died from the vaccine, I would like to know about it. The government is essentially arguing a Jessup rule that “you can’t handle the truth.”

We will now see if the British people have lost all self-respect and separation from their government in yielding to this decision.

 

164 thoughts on ““You Can’t Handle the Truth”: UK Health Watchdog Reportedly Refuses to Release Data on Vaccine Deaths”

  1. Closer to home, it turns out Biden and FBI Director Christopher Wray, decided Americans couldn’t handle the truth about the far left would-be Trump assassin, Thomas Crooks. And as part of hiding the truth, Director Wray (Professor Turley’s fellow member of the DC Bar Association) perjured himself to Congress in the aftermath, lying that Crooks had no online presence the FBI or Secret Service was aware of

    Report: Biden Admin Hid Online Footprint Of Trump’s Would-Be Assassin
    https://thefederalist.com/2025/11/17/report-biden-admin-hid-online-footprint-of-trumps-would-be-assassin/

    The Biden administration hid critical information about Thomas Matthew Crooks — the person who shot President Donald Trump and three others in Butler, Pennsylvania — throughout the 2024 election. Crooks did have a history of significant online leftist Trump assassination related activity, despite then-Biden FBI Director Christopher Wray testifying that Crooks had no “online history that pointed to motive or political ideology.” Wray also attempted to downplay Trump’s being shot by suggesting he may have been hit with a piece of shrapnel from his podium, despite no evidence of that whatsoever.

    Democrat lawyer perjury… a favorite of Washington DC Bar Association members “serving” Americans in government positions.

    If there’s an honest member of that Bar Association, perhaps they should write a column about that, given that we’ve been watching them doing that for 16 years now!

  2. This proud Briton (father to 3 Americans tho) welcomes US commentary on the abject state of my country. We deserve it and Trump is becoming highly appreciated, finally, for showing us what is possible. The #1 issue is Islamization. Our Islamo-Left government has just raised the ‘2 child cap’ on welfare. The muslim birth rate is way above ours, so this is tantamount to paying the executioner for his bullets. Regardless unless we constrain Islam soon, then Western civ will become mere nostalgia in the blink of an eye. Same is coming your way of course. I don’t hate muslims at all, but Islam is simply fascism redux. Reconquista!

  3. The UKHSA is in flagrant breach of the Nuremberg Code, Article 1.

    “1. The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This
    means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent;
    should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without
    the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching,
    or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient
    knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved
    as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. This
    latter element requires that before the acceptance of an affirmative decision
    by the experimental subject there should be made known to him the nature,
    duration, and purpose of the experiment; the method and means by which it is
    to be conducted; all inconveniences and hazards reasonably to be expected;
    and the effects upon his health or person which may possibly come from his
    participation in the experiment.
    The duty and responsibility for ascertaining the quality of the consent rests
    upon each individual who initiates, directs, or engages in the experiment. It is
    a personal duty and responsibility which may not be delegated to another with
    impunity.”

  4. “. . . most of whom prefer to put themselves unreservedly in the hands of their doctors.”

    If you are a conscientious, responsible patient, that quote should boil your blood.

    It is the foundation of a paternalistic government: In the name of protecting the foolish and blind, we, the power lusters, will treat you as foolish and blind.

  5. It isn’t true that doctors in America always inform patients of risks. When it comes to vaccines doctors are ill informed. They don’t read the inserts. They have no idea that just about every illness out there had their beginnings through vaccines. The unvaccinated are the healthiest humans and pets out there.

  6. Bill DeBlasio and the free french fries were pretty darned convincing.

    PCR duplication cycles >28? Yeah, no shit, try 42. Covid diagnostic? Noise, not science.

    Flu deaths hit an uncanny low during “covid”

    From Baric at UNC to Daszak at EcoHealth to WIV and boomeranged back here. Our money paid for the shitstorms of lies.

    Next time a wokester says I should “follow the science” I’m going to be far more harsh than I was to the stupid Karen on the Pacific bluffs in full sun and a 20 knot wind who told me to wear a mask. She asked “why don’t you believe in science”? Because science is reason and methodology, belief in science is religion and a dead end, and a weakness.

    Stop the spread, get vaccinated. Oops, well, it doesn’t stop you from catching or spreading it but you won’t have as severe a case – no evidence that that was the truth. Well, even though the vax is safe and effective, those who refuse it are a danger to everyone and belong in a camp. Nice reasoning there, eh?

    To me the only open question is whether the whole fiasco was just a stupid panic and a money grab or something far darker. Probably all of the above.

    Needless to say, any attempt at quarantine camps or mandatory vaccinations should be responded to with two to the heart, one to the head. Then repeat to be sure. And the Vlad Tsepesh treatment to serve as a warning signal to other idiots. And fire, lots of fire, cleansing by fire seems appropriate.

    Want to know how I really feel about that bit of history? How is Fauci’s pardon holding up?

    The data sets are probably useless, BTW.

    1. Have you seen the meme that goes, I followed the science, but it just wasn’t there. Then I followed the money, and found where the science was all along.

      1. Creekan says: Have you seen the meme that goes, I followed the science, but it just wasn’t there. Then I followed the money, and found where the science was all along.

        But it isn’t a meme – the money was right there in the Biden administration’s pockets. Any other particular reason that Biden gave Fauci a pardon just as both of them were existing stage left, with piles of cash falling out of their pockets.

        Only the retiring Cougar Of Wall Street had a more lucrative career in office.

    2. Unfortunately Fauci’s pardon will stand unless someone can prove, beyond reasonable doubt, that Biden did not make a conscious decision to pardon him. The fact is that Biden had good days and bad days, good hours and bad hours, so you’d have to prove that this didn’t happen during one of his good hours, when he’d just got up from a nap and his mind was clear.

  7. There is a reason doctors patients are referred to as a “practice.” That’s because the doctor is practicing on you. Which is in line with the old doctor’s joke. “What do doctors do with their mistakes? They bury them.”

    1. So I presume you never consult a physician when you are ill.
      I presume you rely on the advice of people like RFK Jr, the well known heroin addict whose brain has been eaten by worms.

      1. I presume you rely on the advice of people like RFK Jr, the well known heroin addict whose brain has been eaten by worms.

        While you preferred the position held by RFK Jr. to be filled by more DEI Hires by the recently departed Oval Office House Plant. Made in conjunction with advice from his most trusted advisor, The First Felon Crackhead Kid – who unlike RFK Jr who had a full career before this appointment – could only make a living by selling White House influence and collecting bribes.

        Oval Office House Plant selections for those positions like being based on whether they were tranny or not. like Admiral Richard “Big Rach” Levin, with his junk still firmly hanging in place.

        Or other Oval Office House Plant choices for health/medicine who also qualified as a DEI Hire with ZERO experience with investigating or working in the health/medical field like RFK’s DEI Hire – Latino Xavier Becerra.

        Presumably, you get wood in your pants at the thought of your children’s doctor being a well hung tranny like “Dr. Rachel” – or hired not because of any medical skill or even personal interest in medicine, but qualified because they’re a verified Latino with skin as brown as VP Border Czar Harris, that other famous Woke DEI hire.

    2. The term “practice” for a doctor’s work originates from the Latin and Old French word “practica,” used around 1400 to denote the exercise of a profession, including medicine, law, and magic. Early medical practice involved apprenticeship and the establishment of individual practitioners, such as the Society of Apothecaries in 17th-century England, which formally grouped many of these professionals.

  8. Completely OT (but it’s late and no one cares).
    I think it is Microsoft home page/desktop background, but a new photograph with golden/yellowish hues, steep peaks of small mountains with a lake in front and sunset or sunrise in the rear? upper corner says Li River in China? Really nice. soothing. (when my father used to warn us if we continued to misbehave, he would send us “on a slow boat to China,” I wish I had seen this photo. Or maybe not. nite nite.

  9. The case against Comey is now officially on a fast-track to oblivion, and Halligan and Bondi will face disbarment.
    Judge Fitzpatrick has ruled that the DOJ committed fundamental errors in the Comey indictment proceedings that may rise to the level of misconduct.

    The Justice Department engaged in a “disturbing pattern of profound investigative missteps” when it secured an indictment against former FBI Director James Comey, a federal judge ruled Monday in directing prosecutors to produce to defense lawyers all grand jury materials from the case.
    Those problems, wrote Magistrate Judge William Fitzpatrick, include “fundamental misstatements of the law” by a prosecutor to a grand jury that indicted Comey in September, the use of potentially privileged communications in the investigation and unexplained irregularities in the transcript of the grand jury proceedings.

    In his ruling Monday, Magistrate Judge William Fitzpatrick said his review of the materials revealed “substantive irregularities” and apparent errors by Lindsey Halligan, one of Trump’s former personal attorneys turned temporary U.S. attorney.
    These concerns, the judge said, may arise to “misconduct” on the part of DOJ and warrant disclosure of grand jury materials to Comey — a move that almost never happens in criminal proceedings.

    “Here, the procedural and substantive irregularities that occurred before the grand jury, and the manner in which evidence presented to the grand jury was collected and used, may rise to the level of government misconduct resulting in prejudice to Mr. Comey,” the judge added.

    First, Halligan appeared to tell the jury that Comey would not have a Fifth Amendment right to not testify at trial, which, the judge wrote, “ignores the foundational rule of law that if Mr. Comey exercised his right not to testify the jury could draw no negative inference from that decision.”

    Second, Fitzpatrick said Halligan appeared to tell the jury that it did not have to rely on the evidence before it to approve an indictment.
    “That statement clearly suggested to the grand jury that they did not have to rely only on the record before them to determine probable cause but could be assured the government had more evidence–perhaps better evidence–that would be presented at trial,” the judge wrote.

    In addition, Fitzpatrick raised sharp doubts about an account of the grand jury proceedings provided by the Justice Department and whether it had turned over all records of the interactions between Halligan and the grand jurors. He noted that Halligan had claimed she had her last contact with the grand jury at 4:28 p.m. that day, while the jurors were deliberating. But he also noted that the grand jury initially rejected one of the counts against Comey, leading prosecutors to prepare a new indictment that Halligan ultimately signed. Yet nothing in the record reflects the grand jury’s initial decision or consideration of the second indictment, Fitzpatrick said.

    The short time span between the moment the prosecutor learned that the grand jury rejected one count in the original indictment and the time the prosecutor appeared in court to return the second indictment could not have been sufficient to draft the second indictment, sign the second indictment, present it to the grand jury, provide legal instructions to the grand jury, and give them an opportunity to deliberate and render a decision on the new indictment. If the prosecutor is mistaken about the time she received notification of the grand jury’s vote on the original indictment, and this procedure did take place, then the transcript and audio recording provided to the Court are incomplete.

    If this procedure did not take place, then the Court is in uncharted legal territory in that the indictment returned in open court was not the same charging document presented to and deliberated upon by the grand jury. Either way, this unusual series of events, still not fully explained by the prosecutor’s declaration, calls into question the presumption of regularity generally associated with grand jury proceedings, and provides another genuine issue the defense may raise to challenge the manner in which the government obtained the indictment.

    In other words, Halligan lied in a sworn statement regarding the events surrounding the mysterious presentation of two conflicting indictment documents. The judge is saying that the second indictment document used in court was never presented to the grand jury. He is saying that the audio recordings and the transcript of the grand jury proceedings do not reveal that this document was ever presented to the grand jury.

    “The Court is finding that the government’s actions in this case–whether purposeful, reckless, or negligent–raise genuine issues of misconduct, are inextricably linked to the government’s grand jury presentation, and deserve to be fully explored by the defense,” Fitzpatrick wrote.

    Halligan and Bondi will both be disbarred for this gross misconduct.

    1. And the court will be overruled on appeal

      Can you name a single case anywhere ever where the courts through out a grand jury indictment?

      The alleged errors the judge cites are trivially correctable at trial presuming they are actually real
      No one is facing disbarment
      Your claims are full of schiff

      I would further note the country is tied of all this idiotic left wing manufactured out of thin air law

      You could not get Eastman disbarred in California

      I beleive trumps allegedly stupid lawyers have a 24 straight record with the supreme court
      And several 9-0 rulings

      You are losing 50% of appeals in the dc court of appeals

      According to Andrew Maccarthy who predicts the case will be tossed by the judge even that does not matter
      The indictment even if tossed stops the clock for 6 months

      You can get rid of halligan
      Get rid of the indictment
      And we go through this all again this spring

      1. There are nearly a dozen lawyers that worked on Trump’s behalf who have been disbarred or forced to quit practice.

        “California court upholds John Eastman’s disbarment for role in Trump 2020 plot

        Eastman’s “false narrative” about the 2020 results undermined American elections and the legal system, the court wrote.”

        Also Friday, June 13, 2025: https://www.calbar.ca.gov/About-Us/News/News-Releases/john-eastman-state-bar-court-review-decision-in-disbarment-recommendation-remains

        It goes to the California Supreme Court for final action, but until then Eastman is on involuntary suspension of his license to practice law.

    2. ROFL
      Only an idiot thinks Comey will or should get away with lying under oath and obstruction of justice both crimes there is no doubt he committed

      But that Halifax and Bondi are in trouble because the judge does not like the grand jury proceedings

      The judge will lose on appeal

      This is pretty trivial

      A grand jury is not a petit jury
      There was a judge overseeing the grand jury
      A later judge does not get to second guess the former

      This judge can correct any errors of law he beleives were present in the grand jury at trial
      Where either side can appeal his rulings on the law

      The trump DC grand jury was run corruptly beyond belief
      Did you see trump successfully appealing the indictment?

      This is more left wing nut judges ignoring the law

      The defense is not entitled to grand jury material
      But they are entitled to a great deal of the prosecution’s case whether it was presented to the gj or not

    3. “If an indictment is dismissed due to a legal defect or grand jury irregularity, a new indictment may be returned within six months of the dismissal date, or within the original limitation period if it is later.

      The government may file a superseding indictment to correct errors or add new information, but the defendant’s rights under the Fifth Amendment, including the right to be indicted by a grand jury, must be preserved.”

    4. Comey will not get away. So if this Trial ends (“tossed out by the judge”):

      1. The DOJ can open as many “Investigations” of Comey as they want (and now they have evidence of Who & Who, When & Why…).
      2. The Date upon the discovery of the Burn Bag evidence, reset and started a new Statutes of Limitations period. Thus making time for new Indictments.
      3. John Durham* is an active factor yet to be utilized in legal pursuit of Comey. Lying to the Special Investigator (and lying to the Inspector General Michael_E._Horowitz**) in their investigations is a violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1001.
      4. Bondi can bring New Suits with proper (Seasoned) Prosecutors. (My guess is now those that originally declined, will be willing to play ($$$)).
      5. Comey is a Big Fish, but he’s not the only Big Fish that is in the Fishing Tournament (Wray, Brennen, HRC, … ).

      Trump has 3+ more years to reel them in. There’s plenty of Meat left in the chase. This is not over by any means.

      * Lying to a Special Investigator is a violation of laws against making false statements to federal agents, such as
      18 U.S.C. § 1001, and potentially other offenses like perjury if under oath. These actions are serious and can lead to felony charges, fines, and imprisonment.

      ** Lying to an Inspector General while under investigation is a violation of
      18 U.S.C. § 1001, which makes it a federal crime to knowingly and willfully make a false or fraudulent statement in a matter within the jurisdiction of the U.S. government. This is often referred to as the “false statements” crime. It is a serious offense that can lead to severe penalties, including imprisonment.

      903. False Statements, Concealment—18 U.S.C. § 1001 as Amended
      https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-903-false-statements-concealment-18-usc-1001

      1. 2. The Date upon the discovery of the Burn Bag evidence, reset and started a new Statutes of Limitations period. Thus making time for new Indictments.

        No, it doesn’t. The statute starts running the day the offense was committed, not the day the evidence for this was discovered.

        1. Beg to Differ, Comey ‘concealed’ the evidence and attempted to destroy it (hence Burn Bag). The new discovery opens up a new window/scope of the Statutes of Limitations.

          If what you were saying was true, then for example, a Murderer whom lived free for 20 years gets caught by the ‘discovery’ of matching DNA evidence, could not be prosecuted. It is not so because the ‘discovery’ gives the Prosecutor a new Statutes of Limitations clock to begin with.

            1. Using a Murder scenario was a defective example, but there is sufficient discovery rule(s) to open up new Investigations & Indictments. into Comey (et.al).

              AI: discovery rule
              The “discovery rule” is a legal principle that determines when a statute of limitations begins to run, stating it starts not on the date a wrongful act occurred, but on the date the injury or loss was discovered, or should have been discovered, by the plaintiff
              . This rule is often applied in cases where the defendant took steps to conceal their actions, making the injury or loss difficult to identify immediately.

              Key aspects of the discovery rule:
              Statute of limitations: The rule pauses the start of the time limit for filing a lawsuit until the injured party has or should have had knowledge of the injury.

              Burden of proof: The party seeking to use the discovery rule must prove that it applies to their case.

              Applicable cases: It is most often used in cases with hidden or fraudulent actions, such as white-collar crimes or medical malpractice, where the harm is not immediately apparent.

              How the discovery rule affects the statute of limitations:
              Without the rule: If a wrongful act happened on January 1, and the injury was discovered a year later, the statute of limitations would have already run out.

              With the rule: If the injury was discovered on January 1, the statute of limitations begins on that date, not the date of the wrongful act.

          1. AI string ~ start here: Statutes of Limitations upon discovery of new evidence

            The statute of limitations is a deadline for filing a lawsuit, but it can be extended in cases of newly discovered evidence through a legal principle called the “discovery rule” or specific exceptions. The discovery rule postpones the start of the limitation period until the plaintiff discovered or reasonably should have discovered the facts of their claim, particularly in cases involving hidden facts or breaches of duty. Some statutes also have a separate provision for newly discovered evidence that can allow for filing a motion after the deadline, such as a one-year window under 28 U.S.C. §2255(f)(4) for federal prisoners.

            Examples of statutes of limitations and new evidence
            Federal Crimes: The standard five-year statute of limitations for federal crimes can be extended for certain offenses, such as arson, which have a 10-year limit.

            Newly Recognized Right Restarts the Statute of Limitations
            https://2255motion.com/newly-recognized-right-restarts-statute-limitations/

            Comey committed a Federal Crime when lying to the Special Investigator and Inspector General as substantiated by the newly discovered Burn Bag. Bondi has at a minimum-1-year to pursue Comey on the basis of new discovery (Burn Bag).
            Bottomline is He lied and tried to destroy evidence. Obviously someone else (the person whom preserved the Burn bag) knew that Comey was committing a crime. What matters now is that the evidence is now in hand.

    5. “. . . a federal judge ruled Monday in directing prosecutors to produce to defense lawyers all grand jury materials from the case.”

      You keep repeating that “update,” while ignoring the most recent update:

      U.S. District Judge Michael Nachmanoff stayed that order.

    6. The case against Comey is now officially on a fast-track to oblivion… Halligan and Bondi will both be disbarred for this gross misconduct.

      That sounds so similar to about two years ago with your prediction that “The walls are closing in on Trump, and he will be in prison in an orange jump suit when we vote in the election”.

      You do however have a realistic hope – courts and judges in those jurisdictions do everything they can to make it possible for Obama/Biden felons to remain above the law.

      BUT… if this judge manages to engineer Comey getting away with multiple perjury felonies as Judge Boasberg did years earlier, Comey is then low hanging fruit for subpoena to testify before Congress, where he will no longer have the excuse of Fifth Amendment protections while being questioned.

    1. Was Larry Summers the Treasury Secretary under President Bill Clinton?

      OMG! The DNC’s “Trump Epstein Files” are suddenly showing up as “Clinton, Obama, and Biden’s Epstein Files”!

  10. @Turley,

    During COVID I worked for a Global Insurance company.
    We had people coming back from China just as the pandemic was breaking out.
    I was on daily and weekly calls looking at the numbers.

    When the vaccine came out… we saw a trend that was disturbing. What was even more disturbing as other companies saw the same things we did… those numbers were deemed not significant and reporting on those numbers stopped.

    There’s another problem.
    People were lied to about the vaccine.
    The logic was simple.

    If you told people the truth… that the vaccine was meant to give you a better chance of survival if you get COVID… but wouldn’t stop you from getting it… how many would have refused the vaccine?

    Where things went from bad to worse… people were told to get their children vaccinated. Including young teens and younger adults.
    There was no reason for this other than fear and that people were told that the vaccine would stop you from getting COVID.

    To make it worse… the boosters weren’t even necessary unless you were in the most at risk category. And even then… not really effective.

    There’s more, but everyone should let that sink in.

    The governments lied to you for your own good.

    -G

    1. When the vaccine came out… we saw a trend that was disturbing. What was even more disturbing as other companies saw the same things we did… those numbers were deemed not significant and reporting on those numbers stopped…..The governments lied to you for your own good.

      Per your own admission it appears you lied to us too. Let that sink in.

      It’s your fault that grandma was thrown from the cliff because she was infected with a benign virus.
      it’s also your fault that people believe the mRNA vaccine can interact with DNA.

      Pro-tip: DNA is inside the nucleus. DNA splits into 2 different strands, with one strand being copied into mRNA, and the other strand degraded. the mRNA strand is then exported from the nucleus and into the cytoplasm. It has no way to enter the nucleus. If only you had been a pre-med student and studied for the MCAT, you would have known all of this.

      Were you an African-gender-womyn’s-multicultualist major at Bαtshιτ University?
      If it walks like a duck, and squawks like a Global Insurance company flunkee, it doesn’t fly cupcake

      Xie Y, Ren Y. Mechanisms of nuclear mRNA export: A structural perspective. Traffic. 2019 Nov;20(11):829-840. doi: 10.1111/tra.12691.

      De Magistris P. The Great Escape: mRNA Export through the Nuclear Pore Complex. Int J Mol Sci. 2021 Oct 29;22(21):11767. doi: 10.3390/ijms222111767.

      Stewart, M., 2025. From transcription to export: mRNA’s winding path to the cytoplasm. Trends in Biochemical Sciences. https://www.cell.com/trends/biochemical-sciences/fulltext/S0968-0004(25)00134-3

      1. estovir gets all his information from googling a question, then copy-pasting relevant results. I found his paragraph starting with “Pro-tip” to be the exact wording of something I read a few days ago. Furthermore, estovir is wrong in implying that “it’s also your fault that people believe the mRNA vaccine can interact with DNA.” He tries to tell us that mRNA has left the nucleus, but fails to discuss the fact that it has long been known that fragmented DNA is actually transported via mRNA vaccines (through lipid nanoparticles). Perhaps estovir should be a little more cautious with his bold authority and read these, https://catholicmedicine.org/news/fdas-own-study-finds-dna-contamination-pfizer-vaccines, or,
        https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/dna-contamination-vaccines-health-concerns/

    2. A vaccination is to prepare, like having a fire drill. It’s not to stop a fire from happening, but to make the response to it more rapid, cutting the time the person suffers from the infection, cutting the time they are able to transmit the infection, and decreasing the chances of severe symptoms.

      They have never been sold as a Star Trek force field that stops a virus from getting in and it’s not like the guns along the Death Star trench to shoot down virus particles that get near.

      The reason for vaccinating children is to eliminate a pool of virus carriers; the little Typhoid Marys that share every germ they can find with Gramma and Grandpa, and not just the ones they are related to. With a smaller pool there are fewer places a random mutation can take place that makes the virus even more deadly, more transmissible.

      Antivaxers seem happy, giddy even, when others die. I guess it is self affirmation of their belief that bad things only happen to bad people.

  11. These are all moves of desperation. No one, and I do mean not a single soul is going to escape what is coming when a critical-mass of awareness develops in society. We are there already, the obscurity from all those involved is literally the only thing keeping them breathing a little longer.
    They violated every Nuremberg Code, knowingly. And they know that we know.
    Justice will be served.

    1. The so-called “Nuremberg Code” is a private document with no force of law. It is not binding on anyone, and no one can be prosecuted for “violating” it

  12. Dr Adam Cifu has it right

    The Wisdom of Colleagues

    – Adam Cifu, MD, is a general internist and professor of medicine at the University of Chicago

    The patient-doctor relationship usually includes more than just the people in the room.

    We spend a lot of time talking about the patient-doctor relationship. We talk about empathy. We talk about asking open-ended questions. We talk about intentional listening. We seldom talk about a doctor’s relationship with people closely associated with the patient who are not in the exam room. A spouse may be the reason that a patient made an appointment. An adult child who is skeptical of medical recommendations might be at home, influencing a person’s adherence to medications. A partner might be the one suffering the most from a patient’s illness.

    I can think of dozens of men who admitted that they only made an appointment because their wives insisted. Many of these men tell me that they will need help explaining why we made the decisions we did.

    https://www.sensible-med.com/p/friday-reflection-55-the-wisdom-of

  13. Absolutely fascinating. How many Americans died from COVID-19? “1,228,289 confirmed deaths, the most of any country, and the 17th highest per capita worldwide. The COVID-19 pandemic ranks as the deadliest disaster in the country’s history.”

    There was no reason to be cautious! Only a million died! We had every Tom, Dick and Horse-head promoting ridiculous remedies. The correct masks did work. Eating in restaurants with masks was a red herring. How do you put food in your mouth without moving the mask out of the way? Keeping a distance from others was useless? So, if everyone was quarantined, the virus would have spread just as much? We are the dumbest of the dumb. The government obviously wanted to kill us all! What complete idiots. We were fortunate we didn’t lose millions more. The next outbreak of a new, complex and deadly virus will wipe out millions more if we learn nothing from this recent catastrophe.

    1. Unfortunately, early stats failed to differentiate between people who died from covid vs people who died with covid: that difference matters. The lab-leak theory was confirmed early on, yet the politically correct story supported the bat market theory, in spite of the gain-of-function research being done at the Wuhan lab, supported by the US NIH per a grant signed by Dr. Fauci. Masks were required, even though they were worse than useless: the virus is too small to be strained out by a surgical mask, and a damp mask is actually a conduit for spreading the virus. In order to receive the MRNA vaccine, I had to sign a consent form stating that I had been informed of the risks, but when I asked I was told that no information was available on that topic. And apparently Dr. Fauci is not being held responsible for any of this.

      1. “a damp mask is actually a conduit for spreading the virus”

        Since the virus cannot reproduce on the mask, how is it a conduit?

        The point of the mask is to reduce the distance of travel of the small particles released by the infected person and capture the larger and therefore larger payload particles.

        The main problem was that people were reaching the transmissible stage before they had significant other symptoms and so were unconvinced that a mask would help. It’s also the case that many were quite self-centered and had been convinced that the virus was a hoax by the US President and went on to take risks and not take any precautions.

    2. i prefer to FOLLOW THE SCIENCE – in it’s circuitous and self correcting form with it’s need for replication and critique. Your argument is ridiculous

    3. Statistics schmistics! Clearly statistics are unreliable at best.

      The government has no constitutional “emergency” powers, and constitutional rights, freedoms, privileges, and immunities shall not be denied. People must adapt to freedom; freedom does not adapt to people; dictatorship does. The virus must have been allowed to wash over the population; people with comorbidities must have sought greater protection. Mankind was never going to reduce or mitigate the deaths.

      China is solely and completely responsible for the resultant death and economic destruction and must pay recompense of up to $5 trillion or more to 194 nations; all data proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the source was the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and no other nation is suspected of being capable, much less actually introducing China Flu, 2019.

    4. The ‘correct masks’ worked?
      LOL

      No, not really.

      The problem is that for the US … all of the N95 masks were made in China even though it was 3M who manufactured the masks. And that supply got held up in China.

      The second problem… everyone who knew anything knew that only the N95 or P100 masks would be effective however… the N95 masks were not reusable or safe for multi-use. Constantly using the same mask made them worthless.

      Even today we see people wearing masks outside… even though early on we found out that UV lights killed the virus.
      There’s more but the lessons learned from COVID are to not trust the governments or nanny states.

      But I digress.
      To your point… by the time that the N95 masks became available in quantity… the virus had mutated and the vaccine was released.
      So no, they didn’t help that much.

      -G

      1. “PUTTING UP A CHAIN-LINK FENCE TO STOP MOSQUITOES”

        “The virus that causes COVID-19 is about 0.1 micrometer in diameter. (A micrometer (µm) is one one-thousandth of a millimeter.) The holes in woven cloth are visible to the naked eye and may be five to 200 micrometers in diameter. It is counter-intuitive that cloth can be useful in this setting — it’s been compared to putting up a chain-link fence to stop mosquitoes.”

        1. The virus is expelled with mucus and other body fluids during coughing or sneezing.

          In addition, proper masks are made with a material that retains an electrostatic charge, drawing uncharged viral particles to the surface to trap them.

      2. The laboratory tested effectiveness of high quality n95 masks was 77%

        With the best mask and the best use of that mask you have a 70% chance of getting Covid after the 3rd exposure

        To actually work the effectiveness must be I’ver 98% per exposure or sll you do is slow the spread and make yhd epidemic last longer
        And likely kill more of the high risk people

        Masks did not work
        A basic understanding of math would tell you that

        Further we had data on masks and the flu before Covid
        Again they did not work

        1. The masks were to capture materials on the way out of infected people, not as a preventive to protect the wearer. Because there was transmissibility before notable symptoms, wearing of masks would have been quite useful. However because the same people who put on masks before invading the Capitol building also refused to wear masks for purely political reasons and don’t care about protecting other people, the expected outcome happened. No masks let the virus spread as rapidly as possible.

    5. By mid-2023, when the pandemic was generally perceived to be at an end, there were less than 6 million deaths reported worldwide. Riddle me this: how did a country, a country with allegedly one of the best healthcare systems on the planet, produce 20-25% of the global deaths with only 4-5% of the population?

      1. It was not easy to get there. The US Conservatives worked very hard to politicize the situation and that would have been fine if they had stayed in the tight little groups and not gone to infect everyone else.

  14. In medical matters you have to give people and populations the truth. I don’t see any reasonable way we can ask people to make decisions about their care without knowing the truth. The government and Fauci failed us and the people by failing to do that simple act. The truth can be painful to know, frightening in the extreme but the individual making the decision has to have that truth and so does a nation’s population. I’ve been a physician and a patient and I want the truth either way and I could not lie to my patients. That is the height of arrogance.
    I have continued to take the covid vaccines even knowing all the things that have been revealed. My own health status makes me high risk if I get covid so I have to balance the risk of the disease versus the risk of the vaccine. Thats what medicine is all about but truth is always essential. Can we as physicians deny such decision making to our patients . I think not.
    The decision of the UK Public Health Service not to give the information is almost as bad as the Tuskegee Institute study of black men who contracted syphilis and were observed for the progression of the disease but not told that Penicillin had been developed and could have ended their illness and prevented their early deaths.. One of the blackest marks on American Medicine. It was conducted by the US Public Health Service and the CDC 1932-1972.
    You have to give people the facts. Nothing else is rational.

    1. Compare to the UK thalidomide horrors, horrors that did not happen in the US because American medicine, though terribly expensive, is still the best in the world. The Tuskegee Syphilis Study began prior to the availability of penicillin and it was bureaucratic inertia that kept it going after that. It was terrible, but not nearly as bad as what thalidomide did in the UK to fetal development.

      The “facts” people are going on about aren’t actionable ones. They are about population pandemic responses to disease and vaccination and only apply if the majority of the populace is vaccinated. There is no useful information that would guide a personal choice in any meaningful way. Individuals have terrible judgement for probabilistic events – which explains how lottery tickets and casinos and other gambling suppliers stay in business.

      The best way to avoid getting covid or small pox or polio is to be in a population that doesn’t have those diseases or other similarly gruesome diseases. Here’s the other part – even if you getting covid is an acceptable risk, you are now going to be passing it on to everyone you meet, some who will become very ill because of your selfishness. If it turns unacceptably bad for you, then you burden the medical community with avoidable costs and effort to treat you, an effort totally wasted if you die.

  15. Covid-19: The Pandemic Virus That Never Should Have Been

    “These emails are just the latest additions to the suspicious amalgamation of facts implicating the US Intelligence Community’s role in the origins of the pandemic.”
    “A very brief overview of the timeline suggests that the CIA and the Intelligence Community are implicated in the creation of the virus, a lab leak at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and censorship to evade any public scrutiny for their role in the pandemic.”
    https://brownstone.org/articles/was-covid-always-a-cia-plot/

  16. Bill Barr Helped Lindsey Halligan F_ _k Up the Comey Prosecution
    By: emptywheel ~ November 17, 2025
    https://www.emptywheel.net/2025/11/17/bill-barr-helped-lindsey-halligan-fuck-up-the-comey-prosecution/

    The 11 F_ _k-Ups Pam Bondi’s DOJ Made in Indicting Jim Comey
    By: emptywheel ~ November 17, 2025
    https://www.emptywheel.net/2025/11/17/the-11-fuck-ups-pam-bondis-doj-made-in-indicting-jim-comey/

    There’s more than one way to skin a cat – “Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!”

    1. I needed only to get a short distance in to recognize another moron that does not know what they are talking about

      Warrants do not need to exactly match charges
      You can get a warrant for a Robery find a body and prosecute for murder

      Next we have h arc these left win nut claims that trumps lawyers suck

      Which is why despite going against the puportrf best left wing lawyers they are ultimately winning 90% of the time

    2. Exactly how often have you seen evidence suppressed because of a defense claim of an invalid warrant?
      That almost never happens
      And it never happens when the defect in the warrant is correctable and the warrant could be reissued
      To win on suppression the defense typically must prove not that the evidence was obtained illegally but that it could only be obtained illegally
      Otherwise the defect is harmless error

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