Below is my column in The Hill on the latest development in the investigation of the environmental crimes committed in the sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines in the waters near Denmark and Sweden in 2022. The German court issued an arrest warrant for a Ukrainian in a move that could prove an embarrassment for not just Volodymyr Zelensky but Joe Biden. The truth is still unknown with allegations against both Russia and Ukraine. There are “false flags” flying on both sides that dismiss clues pointing to one country or the other. However, the Germans appear to be zeroing in on key Ukrainian figures.
Here is the column:
It is often said that “the first casualty when war comes is truth.” A criminal warrant just issued in Germany shows that war continues to claim its victims. However, this warrant could prove to be as great an indictment not just of the government of Volodymyr Zelensky, but also of former President Joe Biden.
This week, a German court issued an arrest warrant for Ukrainian Serhii Kuznietsov, which may finally confirm what was long suspected: that Ukraine was responsible for the 2022 sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines in the waters near Denmark and Sweden.
The Biden administration may have been given prior warning. It was allegedly told years ago by a Ukrainian whistleblower that a six-person team of Ukrainian special forces was planning to rent a boat, dive to the sea floor and blow up the Nord Stream project. The operation was reportedly led by Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi, commander-in-chief of Ukraine’s armed forces.
Nevertheless, after the attack, the Biden administration and many in the media fueled speculation that Russia had destroyed its own pipeline, despite evidence and logic to the contrary. It was another convenient claim of a Russian false-flag operation that allowed the Biden administration to ignore the possibility that Ukraine had not only engaged in environmental crimes but had also knowingly lied to its allies.
For years, some of us have questioned the official account from the Biden administration about the available evidence of those responsible.
The suggestion of a Russian attack on a Russian pipeline never seemed logical. However, the administration was funneling billions in support for Ukraine, funding that now exceeds an estimated $180 billion. Having Ukraine sabotage pipelines to our allies would hardly be opportune when many were questioning the costs to U.S. citizens.
The Biden administration was not alone in running interference for Ukraine, as Zelensky denied responsibility despite mounting evidence to the contrary. When another alleged Ukrainian saboteur was found in Poland, a Polish court blocked the extradition to Germany and ordered his release. The reason? The judge did not base the decision on Ukrainian denials. Instead, he declared that the act had been committed in the name of a just war. (Poland remains the frontline against Russian aggression in Europe).
An Italian court did not engage in such rationalization. It ordered the extradition of Kuznietsov, believed to be a key figure in the conspiracy. The attack involved leasing a yacht in the German port of Rostock, using forged IDs and a screen of intermediaries. Kuznietsov insists that he was an army captain serving in Ukraine at the time.
If the investigators are correct, it was not just the Ukrainian government that was lying to us. Biden was also presumably informed by the intelligence agencies of this evidence. Yet Biden kept suggesting anyway that the Russians were covering up the truth. He told the public, “The Russians are pumping out disinformation and lies. We will work with our allies to get to the bottom [of precisely what happened] Just don’t listen to what Putin’s saying. What he’s saying we know is not true.”
Ironically, even if we were told about this evidence, the public might still have supported the commitment to Ukraine. After all, Ukraine is the victim of a horrendous invasion that has involved repeated charges of war crimes against the Russian forces. However, the public has a legitimate expectation that a country that is receiving billions in support will not engage in environmental attacks on our allies. These pipelines were in the economic zone of two NATO countries.
As the Germans work to find the truth, the question is whether the American public will ever be given transparency on our own government’s alleged complicity or knowledge. The public was asked to pump billions into a war while the administration allegedly covered up an attack by Ukraine on a Western pipeline — and then may have misled the public.
The public also has a right to know if the CIA was told in advance that this attack was coming and either gave tacit approval or said nothing to our allies.
While Hiram Johnson is often quoted on his 1929 line about truth in war, the line following was equally poignant: “this mode of propaganda whereby … people become war hungry in their patriotism and are lied into a desire to fight. We have seen it in the past; it will happen again in the future.”
It may have happened in the U.S., and truth was not the only casualty. The American people were treated as chumps who could not handle the truth.
Jonathan Turley is the Shapiro professor of public interest law at George Washington University and the author of the best-selling book “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage.”
Professor Turley says: The American people were treated as chumps who could not handle the truth.
We were indeed. And you sir, are the chump who cannot handle the truth and plainly admit that so many of your fellow Democrat lawyers, your brother members of the Washington DC Bar Association, are unindicted felons who regularly committed felonies in court rooms and deprived thousands of Americans of their civil rights through color of law.
Merrick Garland, James Smith, James Comey, Loretta Lynch, Sally Yates, etc. – all who deprived thousands of Americans of their civil rights – including your precious meal ticket, the 1st Amendment, by color of law.
You are also the chump lying to himself that your audience is too dumb to notice your refusal to acknowledge so many of your fellow Democrat lawyers from Democrat administrations are just that: unindicted felons.
Or perhaps you simply don’t care that they notice. Just as you don’t care your brother bar association lawyers are unindicted felons who spent years depriving Americans of their civil rights.
“In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies.”
Winston Churchill
Concealing operational details is a constant in war, regardless of the other political preferences of the governments involved. I say this as a Trump supporter who voted for him all 3 times. I am also a student of military history. To see how far deception went in WW II, look up the Man Who Never Was.
I’m amused at Professor Turley’s dive into “environmental crime” committed here, whether or not Ukraine and the USA were responsible.
In that exact same area eighty years ago, an incalculable number of millions of gallons of oil were also deliberately spilled into the ocean, also by explosions. Hundreds of oil tankers and all the other ships who had oil bunkers to fuel their engines. Professor Turley follows the hysteria of the Exxon Valdez wreck a few decades ago – the harm to the environment is permanent. And yet, those seas around those WWII daily oil spills were still being fished while those oil spills were going on, and on some of those beaches Nazi troops were enjoying some time off to swim with girlfriends at the beach. The sea and the beaches are doing fine in respect to the oil environmental crimes. As is the sea and shoreline around the Exxon Valdez wreck.
Did Ukraine commit further “environmental crimes” each time they sank those Russian warships – they weren’t nuclear powered? Any calculations on how many thousands of barrels of fuel each carried in their bunkers.
Turley is making a disingenuous argument. He is suggesting that environmentalists should be protesting to stop all funding to Ukraine, even though the affect on the environment is slight. Methane, CH4, considered 40X more capable of infrared / radiated heat capture, will be burned to create CO2. Unless the lifetime throughput of the pipeline is less than 40X it’s static volume and with consideration for the pressure, there was always going to be a greater affect from it being in operation than not being in operation. Using this pipeline was always going to result in releasing a large amount of methane and, by combustion, a large amount of the greenhouse gas CO2.
Cutting this pipeline was an incentive to work towards other energy solutions – wind, solar, hydroelectric, nuclear, geothermal, and tidal.
These cost more but are better for the environment.
Natural gas is like a junk food for society. Just because it is cheap doesn’t make it a good choice.
Turley skirts the economic and military harm that using the pipeline would do, even though Nordstream 2 had never been used and Nordstream A and B were shut off by Russia before the war, resuming their operation would funnel Western currency into Russia, propping up their ability to buy foreign goods critical to their war effort.
What he writes about his beliefs are at odds with what he writes otherwise. His writing is that of a pro-Trump, pro-Republican, pro-Russian. While he defers and says “No I am not,” his writing supports those agents.
To much Liquidity ($$$) in the Shadow-Ops sphere. If you have a pile of cash sitting there, with plenty to spare (Extra Grease) then why not spend a little and blow up a pipeline (ret). The ‘monetary flows’ act as the precursors in the chemistry of warfare. Stop the Precursors (the flow of $), you stop the Warfare. You can’t have a War without money to fund it.
(See Movie: Charlie Wilson’s War)
Yesterdays Post on Grammarly’s Pop-up request for funding ($) was an example of the contradiction of Whom this War is actually for (Benefiting). In that example you have the Ukrainian developers (Alex Shevchenko, Max Lytvyn, and Dmytro Lider) begging for your money for the War effort, while they sit on a company valued at $13 billion. Ironic, They want their Cake (War) and Eat it to (IPO).
(Rephrase) Pop-Up: Please pay for Our War while We sit on our IPO of $13 billion and get ready to cash in.
The Gaul and Hypocrisy is astounding, and the abject Corruption has got to stop.
The EU Censorship warfare that has ‘The People’ bound in mental shackles of “Tho shall not have Thoughts – yet alone Speak Them”.
All so that a War can be produced and profits taken (Political Profits for Politicians, Economic Profits for White & Black Markets, and profits to be taken in the subterfuge of Warfare (Land)).
What’s going on in Europe (Politics) is on par with what was going on in the US under the Biden D-State Admin.
The Western Civ Deep State apparatus is alive and ticking, business as usual.
Any Peace with Russia and Ukraine will not last long, because the Ukrainians are just corrupt. So sooner than later they are just going to go back to their old schemes and it will be corrupt-business as usual. There is a systemic problem there that can not be rectified … not with paper agreements. To many outside Players have put their fingers in it (EU, USA, + Arms Dealers, etc.. … covertly)
Ukraine – Good Luck With That.
As of 2024 the valuation was $2.9B and falling. The $13B was the estimated value in 2021 based on sales of only $200M in shares. There never was $13B in actual investment.
“As of 2024 the valuation was $2.9B and falling. The $13B was the estimated value in 2021 based on sales of only $200M in shares. There never was $13B in actual investment.”
That reduction hardly detracts from the OP’s contention that those investors want to prosecute their war using OPM while their own financial resources remain untouched.
Their ability to run with $200M in investment is a far cry from having $13B, considering they are providing support for a free version of the software and hoping to sell the pro version. Most startups spend about 50% of their budget on marketing; so a knock down to $100M in operating cash, and running at around $200k for salary and overhead for each employee, that’s only 500 man years. Have 50 employees and that is a 10 year supply. They are about 5 years into that.
You also have no idea how much they have already committed to the fight. They could easily spend a year’s margin as a contribution; 20% of the remaining corporate development time.
At $13B cash on hand they would have a 1,300 year margin – the actual amount is a considerable contraction of capability.
Slo Joe is senile and beyond any embarrassment.
“Slo Joe is senile and beyond any embarrassment.”
Embarrassment requires a certain minimum amount of self-awareness. The 2$$c10wn Biden has fallen far short of that minimum for his entire adult life.
I am mildly surprised anyone is actually investigating this.
I am more interested in the corruption scandal involving Zelensky’s former chief of staff, Andrey Yermak and how far it goes.
What is the difference between surprised and mildly surprised?
Look up the definition of the word “mildly,” genius.
Eye roll. If you’re saying it, it’s obviously not true.
Unlike Trump, who is pardoning convicted fraudsters and upper level drug importers right and left, Zelenskyy has given no sign of tossing his buddy a life jacket.
The sabotage of the pipeline is a fact. Who did it and who knew doesn’t change things. The Ukrainians bomb Russian targets while the Russians bomb Ukrainian targets. The US provides money for its allies, which, in this case, is Ukrainian bombs, which likely did the damage, conveniently reducing Russian income. Isn’t that what happens when war breaks out?
The important thing is why the war started in the first place. Russia wishes to regain control over its former satellites. That makes our main enemy, China, satisfied, while America, distracted, spends money and arms looking at a weak enemy instead of the real one that at any time could advance toward the islands of Taiwan.
Our problem is the weakness of mind and spirit shown during the Biden years, which likely is the reason behind the Ukraine war. We need to focus on the real threat that comes from Asia.
S. Meyer,
For the most part, I agree with you. I would only add the threat is not just Asia, but illiberal leftists within America.
Putin was threatened by the ongoing repudiation of corruption in Ukraine by people who have plenty of relatives in Russia. If Ukraine managed to turn to a successful country with a fully functioning economy and democracy, Putin would see himself next in line for an open window.
Joey B was just a blathering moron who could not consent to going to the bathroom nonetheless blowing up a pipeline. Gotta hold Blinken, Rice, and Sullivan responsible as that was the Green Light Team for any and all actions! Hopefully their burn bags actually burned unlike the morons at the FBI! HAHA!
The act of blowing up the Nord Stream pipeline is a legitimate target for the Ukrainians in their war against Russia. It is perfectly plausible that they did it. Russia doing this to itself never made any sense. The problem is that it was in the territory of some NATO allies friendly to Ukraine.
Germany had been warned that depending on Russia for their gas and oil was a fool’s errand and would make them subservient to Russia but they did it any way. They may have, at some time, turned it off but I would doubt it.
Germany and Europe had become to dependent on Russia for their energy instead of tapping their own supplies and now they reap the results.
If the Ukrainians did do it then it basically lets the Germans off the hook from something they should have done but never did. Now they can say “We did nothing, the Ukrainians did it”. I suspect any convictions will result in light sentences.
If Biden knew or maybe just his inner circle knew, since he was likely out falling off blcycles, they should have said nothing but they seem to lie rather than state the simple truth or say nothing.
Of course the Ukrainians would do it. What were the Russians going to do to them that they had not already done.
Does it change anything? No. we already know that Biden and his circle were as crooked as the day is long.
Can’t convict on plausible. The rest is all useless filler.
“Germans off the hook from something they should have done but never did.” Should, never?
This transcript of the press conference following a closed-door meeting between Biden and Chancellor Scholz on February 7, 2022 has repeated questions about the Nord Stream pipeline: https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/02/07/remarks-by-president-biden-and-chancellor-scholz-of-the-federal-republic-of-germany-at-press-conference/
PRESIDENT BIDEN: The first question first. If Germany — if Russia invades — that means tanks or troops crossing the — the border of Ukraine again — then there will be — we — there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.
Q But how will you — how will you do that exactly, since the project and control of the project is within Germany’s control?
PRESIDENT BIDEN: We will — I promise you, we’ll be able to do it.
CHANCELLOR SCHOLZ: (As interpreted.) Thank you very much for your question. I want to be absolutely clear: We have intensively prepared everything to be ready with the necessary sanctions if there is a military aggression against Ukraine.
And this is necessary. It is necessary that we do this in advance so that Russia can clearly understand that these are far-reaching, severe measures.
It is part of this process that we do not spell out everything in public because Russia could understand that there might be even more to come. And, at the same time, it is very clear we are well prepared with far-reaching measures. We will take these measures together with our Allies, with our partners, with the U.S., and we will take all necessary steps. You can be sure that there won’t be any measures in which we have a differing approach. We will act together jointly.
(Speaks in English.) And possibly this is a good idea to say to our American friends: We will be united, we will act together, and we will take all the necessary steps. And all the necessary steps will be done by all of us together.
Q And will you commit today — will you commit today to turning off and pulling the plug on Nord Stream 2? You didn’t mention it, and you haven’t mentioned it.
CHANCELLOR SCHOLZ: As I’ve already said, we are acting together, we are absolutely united, and we will not be taking different steps. We will do the same steps, and they will be very, very hard to Russia, and they should understand.
Please name one country that wouldn’t try to cut of funding for the nation that had attacked them and that will possibly their very existence as an independent nation. Especially when the aggressor nation has a RECENT history of doing just that.
What would Churchill and FDR done to cripple Hitler’s war machine? How about Lincoln? How about Washington? This hand wringing is rediculous when considered in the context of what Russia is doing to Ukraine.
Now for those of you that worry about giving Ukraine one nickel of our money please note that this was a Ukrainian operation that was done to harm Russia’s energy sector, which actually is something that helps us here in America.
“this was a Ukrainian operation…” And they informed you personally? Good to know.
No, I guess Santa Claus pulled off the op. MORON!
Blood pressure rising again?
Santa Claus? Um… he does have the logistics capabilities and an army.
Every time someone challenges your illiterate rants, you cry moron.
Retired lawyer huh? Fooled everyone. We had you pegged as a moron.
I would rather be a retired lawyer than an unemployed person that has all day to nastily reply to everyone that earned the time to be here.
Blood pressure rising again?
Projection:
Channeling one’s actions onto others typically refers to the psychological concept of projection, where an emotionally disturbed individual unconsciously or deliberately attributes their own thoughts, feelings, and anti-social or criminal behaviors onto someone else.
This is an internal defense mechanism which allows that mentally ill person to avoid confronting their own behavior and guilt by seeing it instead as as the thoughts and actions of another person who they despise and hate.
“this was a Ukrainian operation…” And they informed you personally? Good to know.
Sealions are more amusing (and appear to have more intelligence) when a circus ringmaster has them perched on a stool, barking while they balance a beach ball on their nose. When they instead just bark inanely here, it just isn’t as amusing.
Sealioning:
Sealioning is a form of adolescent trolling where someone persistently demands answers to insincere questions to provoke a response, often pretending to seek a civil debate while actually trying to exhaust or frustrate others with no intention of real discourse. This behavior is characterized by a facade of politeness and a refusal to acknowledge previous answers. Often used as a tactic by whining Democrats in online forums and podcasts
That’s quite a conclusion from Professor Turley. After his nonsensical rant about Grammarly yesterday about their pro-Ukraine snippet asking for support, something every business does for whatever cause they deem worthy, is normal. Heck, Walmart does it every day when you check out. Asking for donations to support feeding the homeless or veterans.
Nothing in Turley’s column is a fact. Its allegations, reportedly’s, May, could haves, perhaps, etc, etc. The only reason this is even an issue is because it meshed well with another convenient criticism of the Biden administration. It’s a distraction piece from more serious issues like reports of Secretary of Defense Hegseth ordering the killing of survivors of alleged Venezuelan drug boats or Trump’s DOJ failures with the Comey and James case.
There are plenty of things to criticize about the current administration and Professor Turley should be spoiled for his choice. But, being a hired Fox News constitutional “expert” to provide cover for Trump’s lawless shenanigans is probably baked into his contract not to criticize Trump or his policies too harshly.
So you hate “mays’, “reportedly”, “could have” etc but then you quote a “report” that Hegseth ordered the killing of survivors??? Doesn’t that seem just a tad hypocritical? Especially given the knowledge that Trump’s administration is the most lied about in our lifetime. Remember that when you call someone Hitler and a fascist then anything you do to stop him is warranted and this is what you have tried to do to Trump.
To me a bigger issue, maybe philosophical, is not should you lie a populace regarding war issues but when does the greater good necessitate doing so. If Lincoln, Churchill or FDR had to “fib” at some point in order to achieve a possible war winning strategy in two honorable and justified wars maybe they need to be allowed to do so. I know this is sacrilegious to the great people who read and comment on Professor Turley’s columns, but the “greater good” is sometimes a greater good.
Lay off the drugs.
Hullbobby, hate? No. Just pointing out professor Turley’s conclusory statements meant to infer the Biden administration was somehow colluding with Ukraine to blame Russia. Nothing in his column is fact. It’s purely speculation and implied facts.
Hegseth’s alleged order is far more serious. Hegseth has not denied he made the order. The Trump administration has been lying constantly, even the judges. They are far less credible than anything the Biden administration is accused of.
“conclusory.” Another word George picked up from this blog. Bu he does get uglier every day with his retaliation against Turley.
“ I know this is sacrilegious to the great people who read and comment on Professor Turley’s columns, but the “greater good” is sometimes a greater good.”
The greater good? What greater good? Trump is randomly blowing up boats without confirming whether any drugs are really on them. You assume they had “intelligence” that they claim is confirmed but won’t show any proof. Hegseth “issued” verbal orders to avoid responsibility for killing possibly innocent civilians. We’re just blowing boats up because it makes Trump and Hegseth look good and tough.
Just tell hullbobby, aka puck head, he’s right, pat him on the head. And push him along. Otherwise you’ll get a blast of invective.
Another cogent, intelligent, responsive and credible comment from one of our anonymous idiots.
Trump is not nearly as smart as Hitler was, and far less competent at every level. I did not think it possible to smear Hitler, but you have managed to do so.
The true cause for concern is the quiet coup of the judicial and executive branches by the Federalist Society and the Heritage Foundation leadership, respectively. The wildcard is Peter Thiel who has infiltrated significant portions of the command and control of the military and civilian services side of the executive branch. With Trump as their figurehead and carrying the dictatorial bent found in CEOs, the US is in for a rough time.
And what does your rant have to do with the article?
It’s not really quite a conclusion. It is an embarrassment. Our government keeps going down the route of embarrassments. Don’t bait and switch the latest embarrassment with the embarrassment from the last guy; it will get its own conversation in time.
George X says: Nothing in Turley’s column is a fact.
Is there a coherent reason you know you have no credibility here – but come here to lie anyways? Why not just post: BBBBBBUUUUTTT…. MUH TURLEY!!!!! BBBBUUUTTTT…. MUH TRUMP!!!!!!!!
It may not be due to your lacking a developed prefrontal cortex. This may be your version of a sexual act for self gratification, Mad King George X.
X says That’s quite a conclusion from Professor Turley. After his nonsensical rant about Grammarly yesterday…
Let’s explore why X (aka George, aka Svalez) posts his carefully crafted off topic non sequitur masterpieces here daily, rather than on his own blog.
This post here, for example, provided to us by the ruling king of the daily unhinged and nonsensical BBBBUUUTTTT…. MUH TURLEY!!!! rant. Rants that are sessions of psychological mental masturbation, just as Toobin’ became a word in the modern vernacular from CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin physically masturbating in front of his also captive audience.
Rants where Mad King George X is always right, and his host Turley who he hates with the heat of a thousand commie Chernobyl reactors, is always wrong.
Why does Mad King George X live his parasitic meaningless life here? There are platforms that would give him space space to write his daily blogs of hatred without charging him a fee.
That’s a rhetorical question: Mad King George X would not get any sexual gratification from posting his nonsensical rants on his own blog.
Because unlike his captive audience here, nobody would be reading a blog with his name on it.
I agree with Johnathan’s concerns about both truth and chumped. Both eventually come out. But way out of the election cycle and who’s in office. Part of it is the intelligence cell of government. Spying and the like. Winston Churchill said there is some truth so important that it must be surrounded by a bodyguard of lies. We talk in terms of classified information, need to know, and plausible deniability. Here, it is criminal to extract/leak. But legal for the press to publish. That’s when truth and chumped come out. In Biden’s case, we don’t know the last date he had both oars in the water, if he ever did. That leaves us with “If not him, who?” when and if truth and chumped do come out. We are again looking for balance between our right to know, and how many Klaus Fuchses we want.
Mike, your Churchill quote is a perfect description of what I was trying to say in my reply to X above.
“trying to say in my reply toc…” So you admit you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Useless troll.
But you did write that, correct?
“trying to say in my reply toc…” So you admit you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Some are happy to see that Trump is causing the price of gas to go down.
Gaslighting
Gaslighting is the intended psychological manipulation by a low-IQ perpetrator of those they hope to victimize through intentionally misleading that person or persons. This involves the perpetrator trivializing, lying, denying events, and other methods used in the hope their intended victims doubt their perceptions of reality, memories, and feel overly emotional or irrational.
The main five methods of gaslighting that may be used alone or in conjunction with others are: lying, blame shifting, countering, trivializing and withholding.
Churchill’s decisions are in no way related to Trump’s or Hegseth’s. In Churchill’s case, he was already at war with Germany and he was referring to soldiers. Not civilians and alleged drugs on boats.
Hegseth’s “decisions” are being cited from ANONYMOUS sources…again.
X (formerly George and sometimes Confederate Anonymous) says Churchill’s decisions are in no way related to Trump’s or Hegseth’s.
Nothing in your BBBBUUUTTTT…. MUH TRUMP!!!!!! post has anything to do with the topic of this column! Biden was the one who allowed Ukraine to invade and then lied about it.
go file an organ donor card. there is some hope you might ultimately contribute something to the country one time in your meaningless existence.
You pathetic creature – unless somebody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to come here every day to lie and be mocked and jeered for attempting this – you might finally find some meaning for your life if you spent your time at a website that makes you happy.
The Biden regime had to protect Hunter’s sugar daddy at all costs. Ukraine was a giant money laundering scheme, to funnel cash back to the Biden family. And Joe Bribehim pretends that, because he didn’t get a sack full of cash handed to him directly, it was perfectly fine. ABCNNBCBS agrees with Bribehim.
The Biden regime had to protect Hunter’s sugar daddy at all costs.
Very odd that Biden, first as Obama’s claimed VP foreign policy expert, and then as president, protected the Ukrainian money flowing into Biden White House Crime LLC pockets by permitting the Russians to invade Ukraine and destroy Ukrainian gas and oil assets that were providing Biden with those millions in influence peddling and bribery cash.
Doing so not just once – but twice.
Trump got $2 Billion from the Saudis. Far larger amounts are far larger concerns.
Seymour Hersh made a very strong case for US orchestration of the Nordstream 2 sabotage back in Feb of 2023 that made a big news splash for a few months but has since been memory-holed. I’m greatly disappointed that you neglected to give this still best case scenario even honorable mention, Professor.
Hersch is a so called journalist. He can make up all the “facts” he wants. He’ll say anything to try and revive a dead career.
Best case scenario? Still its not factual. He’s just guessing.
Hersch’s account has had little further support and appears untrue. At the same time, this appears to have been a Ukrainian operation with at least US foreknowledge. The idea that this was a Russian operation was absurd from the beginning.
Seymore Hersch is a great example of what I meant when I said to X above that Trump’s team has had more fake anonymous reports against them than any Democrat president in our lifetime.
“what I meant ..” Thought you was a lawyer? Can’t you write a coherent sentence. Seriously.
Thought you was a lawyer? Can’t you write a coherent sentence. Seriously.
That initially seems to be channeling and projection. But no:
Gaslighting
Gaslighting is the intended psychological manipulation by a low-IQ perpetrator of those they hope to victimize through intentionally misleading that person or audience. This involves the perpetrator trivializing,lying, denying events, and other methods used in the hope their intended victims doubt their perceptions of reality, memories, and feel overly emotional or irrational.
The main five methods of gaslighting that may be used alone or in conjunction with others are: lying, blame shifting, countering, trivializing and withholding.
Seymour Hersh made a very strong case for US orchestration of the Nordstream 2 sabotage back in Feb of 2023
I’m greatly disappointed that you criticized Professor Turley for neglecting to mention Hersh – but then committed the same sin by chosing not to include other data on the apparently infallible Seymour Hersh.
Same 88 year old Seymour Hersh that eight months ago, less than a month into Trump’s presidency, wrote a long emotional column claiming that President Trump was destroying the American military.
Same Seymour Hersh that wrote a few months later that Trump was going to unleash a Johnson-Nixon like intensive bombing campaign throughout Iran.
That doesn’t mean Hersh is wrong in his claims. It does mean that he is regularly completely and utterly wrong.
As you are with your need to demand Professor Turley, include the opinions of everybody’s chosen media seer in the columns he writes.
Another simple truth: You put a hood in power, you get hood shenanigans. All the worse if the hood is a dope because so much effort has to be spent covering/correcting the shenanigans.
You mean Trump?
I drew the picture, do I have to connect the dots for you too?
If only you could write a coherent analogy … geeezzz…
If only you could write a coherent analogy … geeezzz…
If only you could contribute a coherent thought to the discussion; but instead you perform as an entry level novice troll… geezzzzz…
Seeing your posts appear as the commentary scrolls by is a reminder of when you’d drive past the old drive-in movies in the past. You could see something being projected on the screen – but there was no meaning in what you were seeing going by.
George X may be opening a troll camp for similarly disturbed kids. You should go and improve your schtick.
Projection:
Channeling one’s actions onto others typically refers to the psychological concept of projection, where an emotionally disturbed individual unconsciously or deliberately attributes their own thoughts, feelings, and anti-social or criminal behaviors onto someone else.
This is an internal defense mechanism which allows that mentally ill person to avoid confronting their own behavior and guilt by seeing it instead as as the thoughts and actions of another person who they despise and hate.
The old Gish-gallop and some playground insults.
Will “the American public will ever be given transparency on our own government’s alleged complicity or knowledge.”
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Pipe Dream
Darren Smith says: Will “the American public will ever be given transparency on our own government’s alleged complicity or knowledge.”
Yes, we have a right to complete transparency. We have a right to have an open house held at the CIA, NSA, etc. One where anyone, citizen or not, can just randomly read through every single file, every operation, every email to satisfy ourselves as whether any concerns we have of our government’s alleged complicity or knowledge are satisfied.
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What a Beautiful Pipe Dream of how valuable complete transparency would be! Or perhaps using transparency as a means of committing national suicide instead.
“Or perhaps using transparency as a means of committing national suicide instead.”
Truth telling is only harmful to inveterate liars and charlatans. You clearly identify with such.
Most brazen lie? Biggest lie? There is stiff competition in those categories.
Cocaine in the White House?
Biden is sharp as tack, shames young interns with his mental gymnastics.
Biden is healthy
Biden was not involved with hunter’s “businesses”
Hunter’s laptop was a Russian op
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I don’t think it makes the top 10.
If I were a Ukrainian I would do the sabotage 100 out of 100 times (You knew the German government wouldn’t hold Ukraine responsible). That being said why would the Biden administration run cover when they should know the truth will come out eventually. These guys lie so easily because they never have to face any repercussions. It’s worrying.
Good thing you’re not Ukrainian you would blow yourself up the 1st try.
Good thing you’re not Ukrainian you would blow yourself up the 1st try.
Projection:
Channeling one’s actions onto others typically refers to the psychological concept of projection, where an emotionally disturbed individual unconsciously or deliberately attributes their own thoughts, feelings, and anti-social or criminal behaviors onto someone else.
This is an internal defense mechanism which allows that mentally ill person to avoid confronting their own behavior and guilt by seeing it instead as as the thoughts and actions of another person who they despise and hate.
Projection:
Channeling one’s actions onto others typically refers to the psychological concept of projection, where an emotionally disturbed individual unconsciously or deliberately attributes their own thoughts, feelings, and anti-social or criminal behaviors onto someone else.
This is an internal defense mechanism which allows that mentally ill person to avoid confronting their own behavior and guilt by seeing it instead as as the thoughts and actions of another person who they despise and hate.
As you say, it made no sense Russia did it. They could just turn it off. It was too painful for Russia to be a false flag operation. Ukraine was the natural suspect. It was stupid, but I’ve never lived in a country facing a potential existential threat and maybe it seemed to be a good idea at the time.
That said, by far the biggest criminals in Europe right now are democratically elected leaders who have assaulted the supposedly human right of free speech as much as the Nazis and Soviets ever did. Those countries need a revolution.
As you said: supposedly human right of free speech. Free speech is not a human right. Its regulated by governments.
Governments of course can regulate rights, sometimes to the extreme. But a close reading of the political philosophers would show that freedom of expression is indeed a natural right, based upon the concept of individual liberty. Some would even argue that this is the most important of the natural rights we bring into civil society.
And as with most things, the government that governs the least, governs best
Good one. Political philosophers? I’m a realist, I’m forced to obey man’s laws not archaic philosophers meanderings. Its all purely theoretical and has no application in reality.
Alas
More cretin than realist, frankly.
“Political philosophers? I’m a realist . . .”
Translated: Ideas frighten me. Grand scale ideas reduce me to the fetal position.
With it just turned off they were still bound to deliver on the contract. An act of sabotage would terminate that contract.
No one in Europe has been put against a wall and shot, which is what the Nazis and Soviets did.
Don’t hyperventilate. Breathe into a paper bag until the panic attack subsides.
This conclusion also thoroughly discredits former NY Times reporter Seymour Hersh who claimed that the US was responsible for the attack. And, Hersh’s claim was then widely used to stir anti-Americanism in Europe.
Its a conclusion, not a fact. The Germans are just as incompetent and corrupt as any government.
The fact is, no one knows who blew-up the pipeline except for those who planned and perpetuated it.
So, it all just a guess.
That bombing didn’t perpetuate very long, just Boom! and then Boom! again.
The American people were treated as chumps? That’s because they are.
Hey, I resemble that remark.