The Washington Post shocked many of its Democratic readers this week by telling the truth about the growing disaster in the UK’s National Health Service — a cautionary tale as a few Republicans plan to join Democrats to extend the failed Obamacare subsidies rather than reform our own broken health care system.
Socialism is in vogue in America. Various socialists are assuming greater power in the Democratic Party and mayors such as Zohran Mamdani (New York) and Katie Wilson (Seattle) are taking over the leadership of major cities.
I discuss the rising class of American socialists in my new book, Rage and the Republic: The Unfinished Story of the American Revolution. The young voters fueling this shift have never experienced life under socialism and have no memories of the meltdowns in prior such systems. As former socialist and communist countries move toward capitalism, many Americans are embracing socialism, according to polls.
The Washington Post editorial board exposed the myth of nationalized systems in its scathing column on the UK’s National Health Service, which is asking sick people to stay away from hospitals as the system struggles to offer basic care.
The NHS has existed for years in a perpetual state of emergency. This was the case before the pandemic hit, and it has only gotten worse. Hospital corridors overflow and routine procedures get canceled due to a catastrophic event commonly known as “winter.” It comes around every year, yet the system, despite annual funding increases, still somehow remains unable to cope.
A campaign to keep people away from hospitals during the holidays is underway, which includes begging the public to seek out other forms of treatment for “less serious” injuries and ailments. The British press compares the messaging to “Covid-era stay-at-home pleas,” which included asking patients who needed care to avoid medical facilities in order to “protect the NHS.”
In November, some 50,468 people waited 12 hours or more in emergency departments, often on trolleys in corridors. This is the highest on record for that time of year. Some 2.35 million people went to A&E in November, the highest on record for that month.
What is troubling in the debate over Obamacare is that some Democrats admit that it has failed. Democrats touted the law with an enabling class of academic experts as promising lower health care costs in a system that would pay for itself. Obama himself spread the false claim that you could keep your doctor under Obamacare. (later called the “lie of the year.”)
It proved to be a disaster. Health care costs soared under Obamacare and Democrats stepped in to pass massive subsidies that pay a fortune to insurance companies without doing anything to correct the underlying problems.
The shocking increase in costs under Obamacare should galvanize a nation in seeking a major overhaul without delay. Health care is now unaffordable for many. Yet, that desperation is political gold for many in dangling subsidies before voters as an inducement to return them to power.
With the midterm elections approaching, Congress is about to repeat the same pay-now-worry-later approach. For some, the directions may even be reassuring. As Obamacare craters, it will become increasingly difficult to return to a market-driven system. Instead, many Democratic members want a single national health care system or a Medicaid-like system for all.
It does not matter that the UK is struggling with its own system to provide basic care, and NBC is describing the UK system as “broken.”
With the threat of the Democrats taking over the House in the midterms and producing gridlock in Washington, it is unlikely that the GOP can remain firm and unified on creating an alternative. Some will join Democratic members admitting that Obamacare failed, but this is not the time to correct the problem. Instead, we will pour more money into a broken system and kick the can down the road.
Turley has it right. For 2024, US GDP per capita at PPP is roughly one‑third higher than the UK’s, using World Bank–based series. Why copy a less well off nation’s health care system?
First of all, the present British Health Care system was contested in 1945 in the election between Clement Attlee *Labor” and Winston Churchill “Conservatives” and both had national health plans. Labor won and British health care has been a basket case ever since. Underfunded, lousy facilities, sharp restrictions on available medications (especially for cancer), terrible mortality rates for malignancies and almost always overutilized.
If you want a rational health care system, read up on Germany. They have had one since 1883.
Costs were predicted to continue to rise (prediction by Harvard’s school of Public health ) when Obama care was started. They hoped it would be slowed down (it failed).
When equity markets got involved costs soared even more.
No one really buys what you have to do. National health means every one is in. Rich pay for the poor, young pay for the old and , healthy pay for the sick.
Return to not for profit insurers, use a private-public mix like Germany where you have a choice between private and public.
Doctors will require a fee schedule, insurers will have to limit administrative costs or die. Hospitals should get paid by the DRG (diagnosis related groups ). Much of what keeps Medicare solvent is that many of the Medicare costs are shifted to the private sector. You can’t do that if you have one system. It also has to be a flexible system to react to and cut off those that game the system or you react and close the channels that get gamed.
I am a Physician, Pumonary and Critical Care, helped found and then run a successful HMO that ran from the 1980’s to the early 2000’s. Was Chief of Medicne for a Kaiser health plan also and head of utilization review in 2 health plans. We undercut the indemnity plans by tough fee schedules with hospitals and physicians. They became more efficient and remained profitable, We were profitable but not greedy. There is waste that can go.
A rational and effective national health plan can work but everyone must feel the pain and pay. As soon as people don’t pay they feel no responsibility for costs. It can be done but too many people are afraid to do it because they don’t want to lose an election.
Germany is not perfect but if I was going to set up a system de novo that is where I would start. You don’t have to re-invent the wheel.
My wife is French and she thinks the French have a better system. They actually think that about everything they have except for the military. Why is the german better than the French?
Your wife is not French. Does she have a french passport, ID etc.
“Germany is not perfect but if I was going to set up a system de novo that is where I would start. ”
So, you stick that at the end of the comment with no obvious references. Go ahead, elaborate on the GY healthcare system, show us how little you really know about worldwide healthcare,
ACA confirmed my lingering unease that Obama was very, very bad for this country, and I’d voted for him. What he wrought has proven to be so much worse than I’d imagined, over time. I lost any semblance of health care *back then*. Was in a near fatal collision, and had the kind woman at the trauma center not grandfathered me into the *old* program, set to expire *that month* in favor of ACA, I’d still be paying for it all these years later.
And the young fools embracing socialism today really are just uneducated and coddled and expecting government and society to pick up where mom and dad left off. It’s really that simple. They have no idea how privileged and ignorant they are, or what they are asking for. There can be no passing of the torch to them.
The moment you cash(ed) your check from Social Security, you became a “foolish” Socialist. But, thanks for playing . . .
Socialism-isms
Build it and They will come,
If it is Socialist They will come,
If it is Free They will overwhelm it.
8.5 Billion People on a planet that is now overwhelm and can not produce enough to meet the demand.
We are beyond the tipping point of sustainability ~ Right Now. Socialism, Communism, Capitalism does not matter, the relevance has been overwhelmed by the Human population.
A.I.: earth can no longer provide enough for the population
While the Earth can technically support billions with innovation, current high consumption, especially fossil fuel reliance for food (Haber-Bosch), pushes us beyond ecological limits, causing biodiversity loss, climate change, and resource strain like water scarcity, meaning we’re using resources faster than they replenish, hitting “Earth Overshoot Day” annually, necessitating major shifts in lifestyle and technology for true sustainability.
Key Concerns:
Resource Depletion: We’re using resources (water, soil, biodiversity) faster than they regenerate, highlighted by Earth Overshoot Day.
Unsustainable Food Systems: Modern agriculture depends heavily on fossil fuels for fertilizers (Haber-Bosch process) and energy; without them, food production would plummet, causing mass starvation.
Environmental Impact: High consumption drives climate change, pollution, and biodiversity loss, exceeding safe “planetary boundaries”.
The Debate: Overpopulation vs. Overconsumption:
Overpopulation View: Some argue the sheer number of people, coupled with high consumption, overwhelms the planet, especially with current tech.
Overconsumption/Inefficiency View: Others argue the problem isn’t just numbers but how we consume; innovation (like renewables, better tech) could support more people, but current lifestyles are unsustainable.
Potential Solutions & Challenges:
Technological & Societal Shifts: Transitioning to renewable energy, sustainable agriculture (veganism, insects), and a circular economy is needed.
Cultural Change Reducing consumption, empowering women with family planning, and shifting away from a high-resource lifestyle are crucial.
Historical Context: Some suggest the Earth’s true sustainable capacity without industrialization might be closer to 1 billion people, highlighting the massive shift required.
In essence, while the planet could sustain a large population with drastically different, sustainable systems, our current high-consumption, fossil-fuel-dependent trajectory is unsustainable, leading to ecological crises and resource stress. 🌎
Resources & consumption
https://populationmatters.org/the-facts-resources-consumption/
How Many People Can Our World Support?
https://worldpopulationhistory.org/carrying-capacity/
Canada: “We have he best healthcare-UNTIL you need it”
US: WASTE rules the healthcare budget-and everyone looks the other way. Nearly 3/4 of the US healthcare budget is waste.
1. ADMINISTRATIVE costs have skyrocketed since Obama and now exceed direct patient healthcare delivery costs by 2x. https:www.trillianthealth.com/market-research/studies/hospital-administrative-expenditures-exceed-direct-patient-care-by-nearly-2x
2. MEDICO-LEGAL costs continues to lead to unnecessary tests and CYA.
3. PATIENT HEALTH (or lack of) CHOICES lead to excessive expenditures. Governmental support through EBT, etc, funds incredibly unhealthy provocation of obesity, diabetic, renal, cardiac and musculoskeletal disease. Drug and alcohol abuse are factors also.
FYI: US physicians comprise 5.5% of the budget. Cutting them further will simply lead to fewer of them.
All together, these factors lead to 65-75% of the cost of US healthcare. But instead of dealing with these issues logically, more “USAID” is thrown at them. Until these factors are addressed, US healthcare will fail and UK/NHS here we come.
We have seen the enemy-and he is US.
What’s all the angst about? trump told us years ago he had a concept of a plan. Remember that? So bring out the plan, I’m sure it will be the best plan ever to see the light of day in the history of the universe.
Important to remember here that Turley’s job is literally to shill for R’s…, and R’s don’t believe anyone but the most wealthy deserve access to doctors and Healthcare. Full stop.
Funny because that belief is the single least efficient approach to the issue of Healthcare writ large. It guarantees a shrinking pool of funds coming in, thereby increasing the cost of insurance overall.
But Turley’s getting paid on the front end so it’s good for him and sucks for you. That’s okay in his mind because he’s convinced you’re complete morons.
Come to think of it, I agree with him on that point.
You stink therefore you’re ham..
Awesome. We’re you picking your nose as you typed this with one hand?
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Turley goes full fox shill here yet again, completely in line with his Roy cohn street rep…
Let’s venture into the realm of the factual though, shall we?
‘Obamacare’, the Affordable Care Act, was the R plan for Healthcare. It’s what Romney did, quite successfully in MA. It was originally built on a model that originated in west Germany and was taken up by both Nixon and Dole in their Healthcare plans but could never get through due to the stranglehold the insurance lobby has held over American politics. And it’s exactly why R’s never come up with a replacement plan in their non stop effort to torpedo what they labeled Obamacare from the moment obama’s administration got it passed…
Originally, Obama was aiming for full public option and actually had 60 votes for it if he could convince the ‘Blue dog’ caucus to go along. A real maybe since most of the blue dogs were as corrupt as all R’s were in taking insurance lobby money. Then Ted Kennedy died and was replaced by Scott Brown in MA and there went the 60 votes. So Obama adopted the Romney plan.
R’s have dedicated to taking it down since. First by R governors in refusing the medicaid expansion in their states. Then by systematically attacking the individual mandate. Now by attacking tax break extensions for those in the portal…giving increased tax cuts to the upper income brackets at each stage of their efforts to take out the ACA.
And the ACA did indeed lower Healthcare costs in states friendly to it. I paid one third what it would’ve costed for my first hip surgery under the ACA than it was going to cost pre ACA.
And probably most of you dumb f#$king magats only have your health insurance due to the ACA. Too bad you couldn’t have gotten replacement brains on your policy.
Aside from your last paragraph, an interesting read. Your anecdote about you personally saving money on your hip begs the question: how much did everyone else _pay_ for your hip? If the ACA vision was sustainable, the subsidies wouldn’t be required. Your hip cost my kids their future.
“Your hip cost my kids their future.”
Thank you for admiting your stupidity. The pie is only so big and if you get a bigger piece, I get none. How small minded, but typical of trump supporters. What is so hard to see that better health care for all means a more productive society? Taking care of anybody (insurance or no insurance) that has a communicable disease helps everyone. Getting sick people better and putting them back to work increases the productivity of everyone. Yes, other people helped pay for his hip. I’m glad to help out because if some day I need a hip, everyone else will chip in a few pennies and I can get one as well.
Pretty nasty. Sure sounds like a miserable Democrat.
You’re clearly a hateful brainwashed libtard sheep. Sixty one year old middle class lifelong conservative republican and Proud MAGA supporter here. Instead of actually addressing the article and topic of discussion you revert to your TDS. Our medical insurance system has been broken for a long time. What really created the problem was when greedy insurance companies and greedy corporations started eliminating health insurance from their employment packages.
Talk about going full fox shill here (as Anonymous just did), he/she/it forgot to mention that Romneycare (the alleged model for ACA Obamacare) FAILED>
“Massachusetts Ditches Romneycare HealthCare Exchanges.”
https://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/massachusetts-romneycare-health-care-exchange-106362
“Lessons from the Fall of Romneycare.” https://www.cato.org/policy-report/january/february-2008/lessons-fall-romneycare#
“This largely represented a shift of patients from the state’s former Free Care Pool, which compensated hospitals and community health centers directly for care of the uninsured, to private insurance plans, which are a more costly way to provide care.
…employers in Massachusetts have increased cost sharing, shifting costs on to employees, leading to rapidly rising underinsurance after health reform. The use of high-deductible plans more than tripled for residents with private insurance, and good insurance coverage at small businesses all but disappeared over a few short years after reform.”
Also see, “Massachusetts’ Plan: A Failed Model for Health Care Reform”
I lived in England….a friend came within hours of death for appendicitis misdiagnosis multiple times.
She only lived because her husband took her Private….she was dying in the hallway on a gurney…with no one doing anything.
Some things they did were great…but some terrible….took my toddler to a hospital for a bleeding head wound…was told it would be 4 hours till someone would look at them! Went to a private doctor. Many treatments require years of waiting. The USA system needs to return to a more customer paying system….billions are being wasted…on purpose!
What a lie. You are not a MD.
Ahh yes, throw out the red herring. Bring out one mistake and say therefore the millions it has helped means nothing. I don’t know the details of your one case. Bad stuff happens, when it does, invistigate and make it better. Don’t throw away a system that is the beginnigs of a better system.
Red herring? Its an outright lie. You admitted it.
“The young voters fueling this shift have never experienced life under socialism and have no memories . . .” (JT)
Because we do not have a functional educational system (from k-college).
If we had one, those “young voters” would know about socialism’s greatest disasters, such as this:
In the 1930’s, socialist Russia collectivized private, individual farms in Ukraine. The result was the Great Famine — a socialist-made catastrophe that killed millions of Ukrainians.
Am 77 years old. Rarely go to a doctor. In point of fact, I had a minor abrasion and went for the first time to see my primary care physician for. a check up. He asked me if I needed a pic. Said no, but conceded that since I never had one, I would get a picture. He sent to the hospital next door to the clinic. There I met numerous people I have known for the past 30 years. We spoke agreeably and with fondness. Weeks later, I receive a bill. For my part, being a genrational person with a social security agreement, it was for 114 dollars. At first is thought for what? Then I looked at the bill. It was for over 9000 dollars. Of course, I was not liable for it, Medicare was. Outrageous. All they did was take a photo of a portion of my body and I was billed 9000 for photos and speaking to several physicians about how they were and how their families were. Can you imagine the outgage I was in. This entire system is broken. They are stealing money and everyone is telling me to calm down while they rip off the American Taxpayer.
How do we stop this criminal acitivity?
Alfred
“Then I looked at the bill. It was for over 9000 dollars. Of course, I was not liable for it, Medicare was. Outrageous.”
Exactly. Between Medicare with Part B and an excellent “private” health care plan (as “private” as such things can be these days, which isn’t very) that my wife was able to retire with, our direct out-of-pocket health care costs are essentially zero, with fairly reasonable monthly premiums. But a look at the costs booked to the insurance plans on the statements are beyond outrageous. Someone is paying those costs (even if many are negotiated to be significantly less than the “list price” on the statement), and any other investments that might be made with the excess by those paying it are eliminated as a result. And we all ultimately pay the cultural costs for that.
Alfred, you point out one of the biggest drivers of the increased costs of the “healthcare” scam we’re being fed: No one actually knows the cost of anything. Therefore there’s no motivation, at any level, to control prices.
Every time our government throws money at “saving our healthcare system” they should be required to call it the “insurance slush fund / bailout act of ____”.
Granted, it’s not possible to price shop when faced with an emergency. But if you’d gone to the hospital and been told, “Yeah, we’re happy to take a picture of your abrasion; it’ll be $9,000.” you’d have responded, as would I, “Thanks, but no thanks.”
“the. “healthcare” scam we’re being fed:”
That is the truth. It started small and grew into the monster we have today because the word ‘free’ makes people think they are not paying for it. That is what the socialist dems reply upon; free as they reach into one’s back pocket.
We need transparency. The “it’ll be $9,000” scares people into overinsurance. The truth is that Medicare will generally pay 1/10th to 1/20th of that charge, and the price will still be too high.
Interestingly, when my cat needed emergency surgery I was told the approximate cost (within 10%). When he was hospitalized, I was again told the approximate cost (again, within 10%). When an additional test was requested, that would exceed the agreed-upon cost, I asked if it would alter his care and declined when I was told it wouldn’t. If this could be done for my cat, it could also be done for people.
“Because we do not have a functional educational system (from k-college)”
Ironically, that K-12 education system is just about the best and most accurate example of socialism and its resulting failures to be found anywhere…
“In the 1930’s, socialist Russia collectivized private, individual farms in Ukraine. The result was the Great Famine — a socialist-made catastrophe that killed millions of Ukrainians.”
But Russia had great health care.
US healthcare has been a mess for decades, Obama care just gave it a new set of problems. It, more or less, works for us, but the rest of the world seems to be in utter confusion as to why we don’t have European style nationalized healthcare. I suppose we can add that to the list of things that few non US residents understand, like free speech, gun rights, our legal system, etc. We expect healthcare on demand, without waiting, we expect to be able to choose our own doctors, and we expect it to be the best and to cost the least. We expect doctors to be held accountable for mistakes, we expect the newest technology and drugs available. We also don’t want to pay for anyone else’s healthcare. Doctors expect to be very highly paid, hospitals, insurance companies, and pharma expect to make big profits. If there isn’t an incentive, few people will want to enter the healthcare profession, pharma will have little interest in developing new drugs, and without profit, there is little incentive for insurance companies to take on risk. Not sure if there is a plan that will make everyone happy. Another thing to consider, there is really no other country in the world that takes in as many legal and illegal immigrants as the US. It is hard to see how any system could stay solvent and continue to roll out the health care red carpet to millions of new people each year, most of whom pay virtually nothing in taxes.
It’s the ambulance chasing lawyers, pharmaceutical companies and the insurance companies. They are parasites sucking people in distress dry. It’s what they do.
Be careful what you ask for. Those who tout “Medicare for all” conveniently ignore the funding source for Medicare. Retirees currently on Medicare actually prepaid for this benefit: many of us have paid Medicare taxes for upwards of fifty years. As for “a Medicaid-like system for all,” we would then pay, in the form of increased taxes, for a system that limits both provider and care options, and does not cover many medications. In healthcare, as well as most other commodities, capitalism is superior to socialism. Folks are generally more careful about how they spend their own money than how the spend other people’s money. As Maggie Thatcher famously — and accurately — said, “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.”
You know the old saying, it’s a great system till you run out of someone else’s money.
“Health care costs soared under Obamacare . . .”
Which was easy to predict. The “free” always becomes prohibitively expensive. And then nonexistent.
Professor Turley. Yes, Socialism is in vogue, but they do understand it has never really worked. Those inclined to socialism are unabashed. They have two caveats at the ready. (1) This time we’ll do it better, or (2) This time we won’t make the same mistakes. What they miss is (A) Every socialist regime is top-heavy in power, and eventually becomes corrupt*, and (B) An endless number of mistakes can be made.
*Example. With the rogues gallery of appointments Mamdani has already made, we’ll call his mayoral debut as pre-corrupt.
“What they miss is (A) Every socialist regime is top-heavy in power, and eventually becomes corrupt*, and (B) An endless number of mistakes can be made. ”
You neglected to mention that anyone who believes that Socialism can actually work as claimed (i.e., benefit the vast majority) is a certifiable idiot.
World War II left Europe in ruins. Its infrastructure was destroyed, factories and hospitals were wiped out, roads and mass transit were a thing of the past, and, of course, millions of people were left injured, homeless, and harmed by the war. The Marshall Plan was a brilliant initiative proposed and carried out by George Marshall, U.S. Secretary of State. Part of the Plan paid for restoring hospitals and starting what today is known as the National Health Service in the U.K.
Some at home were advising President Truman to follow the British model and establish a national healthcare system run by the government. Truman balked, saying it would make him look like a socialist. Besides, he said, the U.S. suffered very little property damage, and its casualties from the war were almost all military, for which we had the Veterans Administration. In Europe, things were very different, and the government was the only functioning enterprise that could help restore healthcare. Truman increased VA appropriations but steadfastly opposed a national healthcare program for American civilians.
Today, Truman’s wisdom is seen in the U.S. healthcare system, which, despite the grumbling of left-wing discontents, remains the model of excellence Truman wanted. He knew that socialism was the path to lax service, poor care, and bad management. It would do well today for some to study Truman’s reasoning; it made sense then and makes sense now.
Not correct. Harry S. Truman did not specifically model his health care proposal on the British system, but he was influenced by the broader international movement toward national health insurance that included Britain. By the time Truman proposed a universal national health insurance program in November 1945, most major European countries, including Britain which enacted a similar program in 1911.
The UK health system is a disaster. It’s woefully underfunded. But let’s not judge socialized healthcare because one system sux. Let’s see what word and what doesn’t. Japan has avert successful healthcare system, even though the Japanese see their doctors 4x often as US people.
Let’s judge socialism because it never worked anywhere at anytime ever. You will see NYC, Seattle and other socialist hot spots suffer and fail and then you will say let’s try it over here, or over there or somewhere else and repeat, repeat repeat.
“Let’s judge socialism because it never worked anywhere at anytime ever”. What an absolutely stupid comment.
At best you’re a delusional 70 y/o, you never worked in healthcare, never studied healthcare economics, or the history of healthcare systems on the planet earth.
And you never were a lawyer, as you claim.
I read as muxch about foreign healthcare systems as I could over 2009-2010.
Japanese doctors see far more patients/week than ours do. Greece has far more doctors per capita. Single-payer systems were the,outlier — Germany had 300 payers. Even tiny Israel had four. Canada has one per province. (Tiny PEI has a unitary health care system.)
Highly paid Germans have to go private, as do their self-employed.
Yes, young people didn’t witness the failures of socialism and likely can’t point to a working system that reflects their policy ideas. You don’t need to have personal knowledge and experience if you have a functioning educational system, where students learn history and economics. The health care issue is a reflection on our schools.
Students learn fake history, slanted anti-American, anti-capitalist and anti-western ideologies that will continue to destroy us from within. This was the left’s plan, they implemented it and it is working to help them weaken us vis a vis a) the Soviets, but they failed and now vis a vis the CCP.
Again, you have no knowledge of economic systems in the entire history of the planet. Its obvious from your ignorant comments.
And since you’re not a “leftist” you are no experience designing, planning and implementing healthcare systems.
O-dumber care should be thrown in the trash can.
It was never affordable!
What a stupid comment. Expected form dustoff.
And yet you have health insurance, thanks to Obama.
Otherwise you would be begging on the streets of Seattle with your shopping cart in tow.
If you are not already.
It’s not affordable, you imbecile. That’s why premiums have gone up hundreds of percent and require subsidies.
Watched a video yesterday of a guy who paid $800 a month for insurance prior to Obamacare for his entire family with $3500 annual deductible. Now he pays over $2000 per month and his deductibles are $17,000. Meaning he effectively only hss “insurance” for catastrophic medical conditions – while he has depleted his entire savings.
On EVERY issue, you idiots live in a make believe fantasy world.
Anon said nothing about affordability, only stated that Obamacare exists and covers dustoff.
Watching a video does not make you an expert. Just an imbecile .
I never held myself out as an expert, you moron. Your strawman response proves what we already all know: you’re an imbecile.
You don’t address the man’s plight that I relayed. It was video of him testifying under oath in Congress about what a complete and utter catastrophic failure Obamacare is. You morons don’t care. You don’t care that it has effectively not only left him WITHOUT insurance but depleted his savings. You ignore his plight because you’re an idiot. You live in a make believe fantasy world.
How do people as detached from reality as you are figure out how to put your cloths on in the morning?
Imbecile huh? Moron huh? You get called out for a very stupid comment, so you have to use insults?
Why would you need to beg in Seattle? Isn’t everything going to be free there? What makes you say Dustoff has health care due to Obama?
I saw a piece about a couple that needed the subsidies because their premiums for health care were going from something like $10,000 a year to $30,000 a year. The only problem is that they were a couple that both retired in their 50s and therefore obviously very well off and living off of others subsidizing their care. This is like rent control where people like THE WEALTHY MAYOR OF NYC was living in subsidized housing while truly poor people are living in the Bronx.
“Instead, we will pour more money into a broken system and kick the can down the road.”
Same with education.
Not a political system in the world that isn’t infected with kickthecandowntheraod-ism.
Knowing you’re a really old fart, tell us about the good ole days before health insurance.
Called for a doctor’s appointment and got in within 24 to 48 hours. Took a wound to the ER for stitches and was out within a couple of hours. And medical help didn’t break the bank back in the day for us “Old Farts.” Just one of the reasons why we call them the good old days.
Next time machine to 1899. All aboard….
“Called for a doctor’s appointment and got in within 24 to 48 hours. ”
And I would bet that your doctor was a general or family practitioner (a category that has been all but eliminated) and did more than just refer you to specialists and shill for the pharmaceutical companies by seizing and and every excuse to write yet another prescription.
Ask us “old farts” about how life was back in the day before little brain washed idiots like you started taking over government positions like Mamdani et al. You may not believe it but life was better and morons like you couldn’t type awy in mommy’s basement with no wife, no job, no drivers license and no real education.
Oh look, it’s one hullbooby’s intellectual interactions. Never called yyou an old fart, just that you’re ignorant, supremely ignorant no less. You’re comments prove it every time.