The ICE Elephant: Why the Law Requires All the Facts

Below is my column in The Hill on the refusal of many to consider all of the facts in the shooting of Renee Good in Minneapolis. The myopic analysis of press and pundits shows how the tragedy is being weaponized for political purposes.

Here is the column:

In a famous Indian parable, five blind men are brought to an elephant. Each feels a different part of the animal, and they come to radically different views of what an elephant is. It depended on which parts they touched, from tusk to tail.

The controversy over the shooting of Renee Nicole Good, 37, is a type of political elephant parable. People focus on only certain parts of the story to support what they want the case to mean.

Critics and supporters of the responsible officer have slowed down videotapes that last, in critical part, for only a few seconds.

The only difference is that, in this modern parable, many are just willfully blind, choosing not to see beyond their own rage.

This week, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey (D) became the personification of rage, spewing profanities about ICE while declaring, shortly after the shooting, that the ICE officer was a murderer.

After immediately declaring the officer’s guilt, Frey spent day two lambasting the federal government for rushing to conclusions and demanding that his people play a role in the investigation.

As for his unhinged, profane diatribe, Frey mocked critics if he “offended their Disney princess ears.”

Frey fulfilled the parable most clearly in his use of statistics. He declared that fifty percent of shootings in the city this year were committed by ICE. He then later admitted that, since it was only Jan. 9, there had been only two shootings. Indeed, he could have argued that ICE was responsible for 100 percent of the shootings in the city on Jan. 7.

Again, the trick is to examine the smallest part of the animal and extrapolate to draw sweeping conclusions.

The recently released videotape from the responsible officer also shows how people will focus on insular elements rather than the “totality of the circumstances,” the standard for such cases established by the Supreme Court.

For example, many supporters of the officer are citing the obstruction and taunting by Good and her wife, who were reportedly working with an anti-ICE group. At one point, Becca Good dares the officer to do something as they blocked the road, telling the officer “Do you want to come at us? I say go and get yourself some lunch, big boy.”

For critics, they have focused on Renee Good’s last words: “That’s fine dude, I’m not mad at you, I’m not mad at any of you.” Whether Good was being peaceful or passive-aggressive, others are clearly very, very mad. They are using her statement to push protesters to the brink of violence.

Democratic leaders declared ICE to be “terrorists” and called for mass protests in the very same city that burned in 2020 after the George Floyd riots. Right on cue, one Black Lives Matter leader suggested that the prosecution of officers in the George Floyd case only occurred because protesters burned down the city. She told protesters to ignore pleas not to do it again. “Let me tell you this. We need justice and we need it now.”

Protesters in other cities chanted Kristi Noem will hang” and “Save a Life, Kill an ICE.”

In the same presser where he condemned federal officials for jumping to conclusions, Frey not only reaffirmed that Good had been murdered but added that the officer was not actually injured as claimed. “The ICE agent walked away with a hip injury that he might as well have gotten from closing a refrigerator door with his hips,” he said. “He was not injured. Give me a break. No, he was not ran over. He walked out of there with a hop in his step.”

Few of us have been in Frey’s kitchen, but the latest videotape seems to show something more intense than an encounter with his fridge. The video shows the agent being hit by the vehicle as Good ignores orders to get out of the car, as Becca Good is screaming, “drive, drive, drive.”

Reasonable people can disagree on whether the officer should have discharged his weapon. Flight alone is not grounds for the use of lethal force. However, Good’s actions could also be interpreted as an intentional endangerment of the officer.

At a minimum, it was clearly reckless, as another officer was trying to reach into the vehicle and Good refused to yield to the effort to place her into custody. The Goods forced the confrontation, and Renee Good then escalated the level of danger by speeding toward an officer.

This is why the legal standard requires you to take in the entire elephant, not just insular parts.

While there may still be countervailing facts emerging from the investigation, the governing legal standard clearly favors the officer. It is Good’s actions, not her motivations, that are critical to determining whether excessive force was used. The officer’s cellphone video shows he had a fraction of a second to decide and fired after being struck by the car. (The same officer had been seriously hurt previously after being dragged by a car.)

The Justice Department’s guidances incorporate the standards outlined in past Supreme Court decisions, such as Graham v. Connor (1989). Again, individual elements can be viewed in isolation as favoring or disfavoring the use of force, including the severity of the crime at issue (in this case likely a misdemeanor) and whether the suspect was “attempting to evade arrest by flight.” The guidelines stress that “[t]he ‘reasonableness’ of a particular use of force must be judged from the perspective of a reasonable officer on the scene, rather than with the 20/20 vision of hindsight.”

This tragedy shows that people watching the same videotapes can come to diametrically opposed conclusions. Take the speed of the vehicle. Some have noted that the car was traveling less than 10 miles per hour before it collided with another vehicle. However, the speed after the shooting of Good is immaterial. The relevant question is the distance and speed with reference to the officer. It was clearly speeding up and immediately struck the officer before Good was shot.

The same is true of those who note how the wheels appear to be turning toward or away from the officer. The fact is, Good struck the officer. That does not mean she intended to do so, but that does not matter. From the officer’s perspective, Good was ignoring orders while speeding toward him from just feet away.

There will likely be civil litigation. Democrats have also called for criminal charges. The arguments on both sides of this controversy show, at most, that the issue is debatable. The officer could be viewed as wrong and still be found to have acted within the scope of his discretion in responding to a threat. Any state effort to charge the officer will be removed to federal court, where he will likely have immunity based on this evidence.

The public would be wise to ignore conclusions reached blindly by either side. In an “Age of Rage,” we live in the land of the blind, where the one-eyed man is king. The public must remain clear-eyed and calm as the investigation proceeds in Minneapolis.

Jonathan Turley is a law professor and the author of the forthcoming “Rage and the Republic: The Unfinished Story of the American Revolution.”

449 thoughts on “The ICE Elephant: Why the Law Requires All the Facts”

  1. Feeble Arguments

    No law enforcement agency in the country encourages its officers to jump in front of moving vehicles. And no cop with any sense jumps in front of moving vehicles. One could loose their legs that way!

    Agent Ross was clearly ready with a well-practiced sidestep to scoot out of the way just in time. It’s a sidestep every cop should know.

    What’s more, no superior would have faulted Agent Ross for ‘not’ shooting Good. No warning notice would have been issued reading, “Agent Ross failed to shoot a fleeing subject’.

    Therefore all this drama about the ‘danger’ Ross was in, and how he had no choice but to shoot Good 3 times in the face, is absolute nonsense! No one outside the rightwing media bubble is buying this argument. If this argument carried any weight, police shootings would be a daily occurrence in every metro region.

    1. Yes, Good was prepared to operate her two ton vehicle with the intent to abort any “burdens” that may cause her and her partner inconvenience. The agents narrowly escaped her Planned rites for them.

      1. Clearly that is not the case; Good did not turn the wheel to follow the path of the cowardly rat. Also, most people can survive a bump of 5 MPH which is more speed than a car can gain in a 2 foot long run.

        However, the cowardly rat could see the driver turning the wheel away from him and was already out of the path when he pulled the gun and shot that woman in the head.

        1. I’m waiting to see a diagram drawing a line through the driver’s head and the windshield bullethole, to see where Ross must have been standing when he fired.

    2. He shot her to abort her progress to commit premeditated injury or abortion of the agents. No one has a civil right to abort another human life for social, clinical, criminal, political, or climate progress. He shot the driver, not her partner, operating the two ton guided projectile in order to abort her ill conceived criminal Choice, and because [black] lives matter.

      1. He didn’t shoot the partner because he wanted to maximize the suffering of the partner. Can’t grieve if they are dead. He gets two birds with one murder. The joy of killing someone and the joy of seeing someone suffer the rest of their lives at the loss.

    3. “No law enforcement agency in the country encourages its officers to jump in front of moving vehicles.”
      Correct, the rules regarding doing so depend on the circumstances.
      regardless, that is not what occured.
      The officer circled a stopped vehicle. When another officer ordered Good to get out of the car after the first officer was infront of her car,
      Good dropped the car into reverse floored it backwards for a few feet, thre the car into Drive and floored it striking the officer.

      The entire video from the Officer leaving his vehicle and walking completely arround goods car is 47s long.
      As 39s the officer is dead center infront of Goods car photgraphing Good through the wind sheild.
      As 40s Good throws the car into reverse.
      At 41s Good is moving forward and straight at the officer and hits him.
      At 42s The officer fires his first shot.
      Before 43s all shots were fired.
      At 47s the car crashes into a vehicle 50yds down the road.

      “And no cop with any sense jumps in front of moving vehicles.”
      False, first that did not occur – but even if it did, it is an officers duty to put himself at risk to protect others.
      Jumping in front of another vehicle and firing is proper if the harm prevented is greater than the risk to himself.

      ” One could loose their legs that way!”
      They could – which is why driving into a police officer is Agrevated Assault.

      “Agent Ross was clearly ready with a well-practiced sidestep to scoot out of the way just in time. It’s a sidestep every cop should know.”
      I am sure he wishes that was true.

      “What’s more, no superior would have faulted Agent Ross for ‘not’ shooting Good.”
      No superior could have Faulted the officer for not joining ICE.
      But outside the lunatic left the rest of us expect laws to be enforced.
      Otherwise we have anarchy.

  2. And now a matter of perspective on the massive corruption in Minnesota and other states that no one on the Left (aka Dems / Legacy Media) seems to mention. Bishop Robert Barron of Minnesota does

    Bishop Robert Barron
    @BishopBarron
    As we wrestle in my home state of Minnesota with the fact of deep corruption in the political and economic orders, I want to draw attention to the “social justice” dimension of this problem. Catholic social teaching has a good deal to say about official corruption, insisting that it undermines confidence in our leaders, compromises the integrity of the institutions of government, and subverts the rule of law. But even more importantly, it deeply harms the poor, stealing resources from them, increasing inequality, and blocking essential services such as health and education. And if the widespread fraud in Minnesota is also present in a number of other states, we are dealing with a massive violation of human rights and a heinous attack upon the poor and needy. This should not be a matter of partisan politics. Rather, wherever this corruption exists, it should be fought and those responsible for it brought to justice.

    5:01 PM · Jan 12, 2026

    https://x.com/BishopBarron/status/2010834655558218008

  3. The immediate condemnation of the officer while excuses are made for Good reminds me of something a professor noted in one of our first year classes: “you take your victim as you find him.” (Or her today; that was 1965.) The officer was facing not only an abruptly oncoming vehicle aimed in his direction – driven by Good as she was egged on by her wife to drive, drive, drive; he had been injured by anti-ICE folks and required some 400 stitches. Those who have been blindly supporting Good and her wife have totally ignored or misrepresented the reasonable REaction of the officer.

  4. Obstructing Cops Does ‘Not’ Justify Execution

    As officers and agents employ aggressive tactics, some activists have blown whistles to warn community members of approaching law enforcement, tried to follow immigration enforcement vehicles or used their own cars to block the roadways — entering murkier legal territory. Some legal experts said such behavior could in theory justify obstruction-of-justice charges, but they added that any such prosecution would be unusual.

    “Could a prosecutor make a credible case that a person is interfering if they’re blocking an agent’s car or slowing them down? Yes, but whether that’s a crime that deserves seven to eight years in prison is a different conversation,” said Paul Butler, a former federal prosecutor who teaches at Georgetown University Law Center.

    Edited From Today’s Washington Post
    …………………………………….

    Even ‘if’ ICE agents had successfully yanked Good out of her SUV, the legal case against her would have been minor at best. So there was no good reason for Agent Ross to jump in front of that SUV. And whatever minor charge ICE had against Good scarcely justified 3 shots in the face at close range. To suggest that such an execution was necessary is a complete departure from all norms governing law enforcement.

    1. Threatening the officers with a deadly weapon of mass capacity justifies self-defense, including abortion of the clear and progressive “burden” in order to mitigate her progress.

      1. “. . . whatever minor charge ICE had against Good scarcely justified 3 shots . . .”

        Funny how you just skipped over the part where she tried to run over the law enforcement officer.

      2. Right on.
        The equity of your diverse and inclusive analysis of the progressive abortion, explains well the burden of self-defense.
        But, ain’t no white girl ever gonna be as deadly a weapon of mass capacity like George Floyd.

    2. Anonymous, if her penalty for her actions would have been trivial why didn’t she just get out of her car.
      The spinning off the front wheel shows that she was in four wheel drive. Stop and get out of the car and her penalty would have been little just like you just said. Instead it was drive baby drive ordered by her wife. Mow him down would have worked too.

    3. ATS – repeating the same repeatedly falsified claims does not make them true.

      Goods death was tragic.
      It was avoidable either by Good obeying the law, or by police refusing to enforce the law.

      When the police do not enforce the law – we have anarchy and more people die or have bad things happen to them.
      ICE arrested 20 criminals in mineapolic today.
      Rapists, Murderers, child rapists.
      If Good had followed the law – no one would be hurt.
      If the officers refused to enforce the law – lots of people would be victims of violent crime.

    4. You have it backwards.
      The consequences of whatever minor charge Good faced would hsve been trivial compared to the consequences of her noncompliance and her threatening the life of the ICE Agent

    5. Then this foolish woman should have followed the orders from the officer, but she didn’t.
      She made the decision to hit the gas. The blame falls on her.

    6. First of all, obstruction is NOT a minor charge. If it’s not often prosecuted, that’s got nothing to do with anything. A charge’s severity doesn’t depend on how often prosecutors decide to foolishly be nice and let someone go.

      Second, by refusing to get out of the car she was resisting arrest which is a whole NEW crime. And a very serious one. Officers are entitled to use as much force as necessary to effect the arrest. Remember that Rodney King’s beating was completely justified until the last six blows. Had the cops stopped six blows earlier there would have been no case against them.

      And of course, third, all of this flies out the window the moment you attack an officer. At that point it doesn’t matter what happened before. He can and should use deadly force to defend himself.

  5. Video reporting is an infowarrior’s playground:
    • time editing allows cutting out unwanted contextual information
    • choice of vantage point feeds directly into whose narrative you want to present
    • audio can be removed if it detracts in any way from the desired narrative
    • AI paves the way for pure design of deceitful infowarfare

    Such a powerful medium once had some semblance of ethics and law — for instance, requiring a signed release
    before using another citizen’s likeness or image in a published work.

    Steve Jobs totally undermined those laws & ethics when adding video capture to the iPhone camera system. Overnight, the law became widely violated by young kids ignorant of law and lacking self-awareness.

  6. One thing I saw was that the police were nowhere to be found. I saw a video of ~ 4 minutes before the shooting and if police were there they would have given her a ticket and told her to leave because she was blocking a street with her car, followed by telling her she would be arrested and her car impounded if she didn’t leave. ICE wasn’t supposed to deal with someone blocking a street.

    1. In less “progressive” states, local law enforcement agencies do handle crowd control. But in this sanctuary state, local government wants to avoid even the appearance of aiding ICE.
      OTOH, a PD that selected Derek Chauvin as a training officer might not do a great job.

    2. The police are under orders not to interfere with these criminal gangs, and to let them run amok and do whatever they like, break as many laws as they like, and murder agents to their hearts content.

  7. “Frey fulfilled the parable most clearly in his use of statistics. He declared that fifty percent of shootings in the city this year were committed by ICE. He then later admitted that, since it was only Jan. 9, there had been only two shootings. Indeed, he could have argued that ICE was responsible for 100 percent of the shootings in the city on Jan. 7.”

    A quick look at Minneapolis crime statistics would suggest that both Frey and Turley are likely significantly off-base with respect to their conclusions about Minneapolis shooting frequency. The city’s crime dashboard as of 1/11/2026 shows 120 calls about shots fired to date in 2026, and 295 such calls in the last 28 days. Now, it is obvious that an audible shot may provoke more than one call, but probably no more than a handful, depending on the location and time of day. It is also possible that some of those shots were not directed at human targets (for example, idiots firing in the air on New Years Eve) but that is likely quite limited, as well. It would seem highly unlikely that the only shots fired anywhere in Minneapolis on January 7, or even half of the shots fired in January, were made by ICE officers at Good.
    Crime in Minneapolis – Summary
    https://www.minneapolismn.gov/government/government-data/datasource/crime-dashboard/

  8. The Founding Fathers wanted state government to have most legal authority, except for specific authorities federal authority.

    The logic was a state government official lives within the community, so they are less likely to abuse citizens if they live there.

    When you bring out-of-state federal officials, they can abuse citizens and then fly back home to another state. They can simply leave, they never have to face the citizens as neighbors.

    It’s curious that Kash Patel and the federal government refuse to share this investigation with Minnesota officials. If the investigation is legitimate why not share with Minnesota investigators?

    1. I don’t think the founders considered that some of their own citizens would be complicit to this type of criminality. Whether that criminality consisted of invasion by illegal entry into our sovereign nation or criminal; fraud, murders, kidnappers, foreign organized crime and pedohile child sex trafficking. Federal authorities are needed and hopefully they clean it up before the citizens have to.

      1. The founders wrote the constitution to protect the safety and well-being of U.S. citizens .. . not the government.

        1. Boom, DG got one right today! The ICE officers are following the Constitution as federal law enforcement agents to protect the citizens of the United States. They are doing so through removal of foreign illegal criminals from our country. Should a treasonous citizen try to interfere in their efforts, disregarding lawful orders and run them down with a truck, that citizen wins a special prize and a gofundme reward!

        2. ….and then legislators wrote statutes to protect the safety and well-being of police agents (who ARE citizens!) during law enforcement for the public. See 34 USC Subtitle V: Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice Personnel From Title 34—CRIME CONTROL AND LAW ENFORCEMENT

          In addition, ALL citizens have the civil and moral right of self-defense against bodily threat.

      2. Let’s go one better:
        “I don’t think the founders considered that some of their own [Governors, Legislators, Mayors, and Police Chiefs] would be complicit to this type of criminality.”
        We are living in perilous times.

    2. The Founding Fathers and Framers adopted the Constitution and Bill of Rights in 1789.

      That is American fundamental law, and that is all anyone needs to know.

      Read it. Know it. Cite it.

    3. Federalk laws are enforced by the federal govenrment.
      Immigration is one of the exclusive enumerated powers of the federal government.

      It is likely that some of the ICE LEOs are the 500 MPD officers that left the MPD after MPD left Ofx. Chauvin high and dry.
      Others are fomerly from other states and municipalities that put criminals above the law and so the police looked elsewhere – like ICE.

      1. Immigration is one of the exclusive enumerated powers of the federal government.

        John, actually it isn’t. Look at the list in Article 1 section 8, and you will not see it there. This is a problem for originalists such as you and I. The constitution does not give the federal government any power over immigration, and it was not thought to have such a power until a century later, when the Supreme Court justified it by claiming it was “inherent in the concept of sovereignty” and so didn’t need to be mentioned.

        Right now, that’s water under the bridge. The fact is that for the past 150 years the Supreme Court has consistently held that Congress does have this power. In principle that precedent ought to be overturned, and a constitutional amendment should instead be proposed to finally give Congress that power. But that’s not a practical issue now. The law is what it is, whether we like it or not.

    4. Why did it take the DOJ to uncover the length and breadth of social services fraud in Minnesota, if local law enforcement was up to the task?
      And if the MinneapolisPD was competent, why did they select Derek Chauvin to train other officers?

      1. And if the MinneapolisPD was competent, why did they select Derek Chauvin to train other officers?

        That one’s easy. Because he was good at it. He did nothing wrong, and is sitting in prison for nothing. And they know it, but they can’t admit it.

    5. Even in the 1790s, federal crimes were investigated and prosecuted by federal officers, not by the state. This is none of Minnesota’s business; a federal officer’s actions in the course of his duty are not subject to state law.

      Any cooperation by federal authorities with a state investigation would be purely a courtesy, and Minnesota has not earned any courtesy. On the contrary, by standing on its right to refuse all assistance to federal law enforcement it has forfeited any expectation of any assistance from them.

      Furthermore, any information the feds give Minnesota will immediately be leaked to the criminals, because the Minnesota Attorney General is himself a criminal, and has been in league with criminals for his entire career. He cannot be trusted with any confidential information.

  9. Would it be okay if federal agents (without probable cause warrants from a judge) stopped on your street and went door-to-door checking if all of your guns were properly licensed?

    Most Americans would hate this unconstitutional operation.

    According to recent news reports, there was no probable cause evidence or warrants issued by a judge to pursuing illegal immigrants. News reports say this was an unconstitutional (illegal) operation that resulted in a young mother being killed.
    This was an illegal fishing expedition without any warrants.

    1. Yessir, most illegal immigrants and foreign criminals register their address and phone number so the LEO/ICE/CBP can swing by and pick them up. Get real moron. Your young mother was impeding and harassing a law enforcement action, she fled a lawful order an in so doing put their lives in danger and unfortunately lost her own. Her actions led to her death.

    2. “According to recent news reports, there was no probable cause evidence or warrants issued by a judge to pursuing illegal immigrants. ”
      Is there anyone for which this is new ?

      A judicial warrant is necescary if you are subject to deprivation of an actual right.

      Illegal immigrants are not being deprived of a right. They are not being sent to Attica, they are being sent home.

      “News reports say this was an unconstitutional (illegal) operation”
      Unconstitutional and illegal are not the same thing – or Jack Smith and mny many democrats would be in jail.
      Regardless this is neither.

      “that resulted in a young mother being killed.”
      Good was killed because she interfered with Law Enforcement, refused a lawful order by Law Enforcment, Resisted Arrest, Fled, Drove recklessly, and put atleast two ICE officers at rick of serious bodly harm or death.

      “This was an illegal fishing expedition without any warrants.”
      It was not, nor does that matter. You can not obstruct law enforcement because you beleive they are acting improperly.
      You are obligated to obey the commands of LEOs – you get an oportunity LATER to address whether those orders were lawful.

      It should not take a brain surgeon to grasp that a police officers who orders you to leave a bank robbery in progress can not be compelled to debate with you the legality of his order.

      The required due process for an illegal immigrant is:

      Establish they are here illegally.
      Biden made that really easy by getting them all to register for benefits on an app.

      That is it.

      1. “ Good was killed because she interfered with Law Enforcement, refused a lawful order by Law Enforcment, Resisted Arrest, Fled, Drove recklessly, and put atleast two ICE officers at rick of serious bodly harm or death.”

        Wrong again. She did not interfere with law enforcement at all. Lying about it is not going to make it any more relevant.

        She didn’t flee or drove recklessly. She barely drove at all. Stop lying John.

        1. “Wrong again. She did not interfere with law enforcement at all.”
          She spent most of the day blocking the road and blaring her horn in multiple locatiosn following ICE arround – there is video of her just a few minutes before with her car straddling the center of Portland st. and her horn blaring.

          That is interfering with law enforcement.
          BTW in Minneapolis alone in the past couple of weeks there have been 20 incidents where “protestors ran their vehicles into ICE agents or their cars.
          This is very dangerous
          Today in Minneapolis ICE arrested 20 illegal aliens with driminal records. One was double murderer. Several were rapists, child rapists, human traffickers and drug dealers.

          People like Good have no idea whether the ICE arrests they are hindering are of completely harmless illegal immigrants or Violent criminals. All arrests are potentially dangerous – for the LEOs and for the public.

          People who are about to be arrested often do stupid things – just exactly like Good did.

          A murderer may come out shooting. But sometimes even the most innocuous people behave stupidly.

          If you are interfering with ICE you increase the odds of that happening. And you add protecting YOU from someone who goes on a rampage to their burdens.

          ” Lying about it is not going to make it any more relevant.”
          False accusations of lying – is lying.

          “She didn’t flee or drove recklessly.”
          Of course she did. She was ordered out of the car,
          instead of clmplying she trhough the car in reverse and backed blindly – that is both reckless dangerous and fleeing.

          If you are pulled over by a police vehicle with its lights on – you are “detained” – you are not “Free to go”
          If you are ordered out of the car you must comply and if you refuse you have committed a crime.
          Further it is likely if you are ordered out of your car that you are being arrested.
          Regarless leaving is resisting arrest and fleeing.

          That is the law.

          “She barely drove at all.”
          She drove far enough tohit the officer.

          ” Stop lying John.”
          False accusations of lying – is lying.

        2. The other thing Good didn’t do was park her SUV at the curb, out of the traffic lane.

        3. Bull again geroge.
          The video shows her honking her horn as she drives past the ICE truck and than cuts them off.
          She cause this issue.

    3. News reports are wrong. If you rely on news reports for constitutional analysis you’re an idiot.

      ICE is authorized by statute to arrest suspected illegal aliens with an administrative warrant only. There is nothing unconstitutional about this. The administrative warrant does NOT allow them to enter private property without the owner’s permission; if they want to do that they need a judicial warrant instead. But so long as they remain on the street, or have the owner’s permission to be on private property, the administrative warrant is perfectly legal.

      As for arresting people for obstructing them, they don’t need a warrant. Any law enforcement officer who witnesses a crime can arrest the criminal without any warrant. Warrants are only needed if he didn’t witness it.

    4. Actually, it was not an illegal fishing expedition. The only time Article III courts are involved in immigration cases is if there are legal issues beyond immigration law. The following is the pertinent section of the Immigration and Naturalization Act (INA) that deals with the issuance of the warrants.

      §1226. Apprehension and detention of aliens
      (a) Arrest, detention, and release
      On a warrant issued by the Attorney General, an alien may be arrested and detained pending a decision on whether the alien is to be removed from the United States. Except as provided in subsection (c) and pending such decision, the Attorney General-

      (1) may continue to detain the arrested alien; and

      (2) may release the alien on-

      (A) bond of at least $1,500 with security approved by, and containing conditions prescribed by, the Attorney General; or

      (B) conditional parole;

      Given the above, the immigrant operation taking place in Minnesota is perfectly legal.

      Here is the pertinent link to the INA if you wish to pursue the issue further.

      https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title8-section1226&num=0&edition=prelim

      The component responsible for adjudicating these immigration cases is the Executive Office of Immigration Review. It is a component of the Department of Justice and has its own corps of administrative judges that determine whether the immigrant is eligible for deportation. It also adjudicates any appeals arising from the immigration court proceedings. It’s legal status is established in 6 USC Chapter 1.

      §521. Legal status of EOIR
      (a) 1 Existence of EOIR
      There is in the Department of Justice the Executive Office for Immigration Review, which shall be subject to the direction and regulation of the Attorney General under section 1103(g) of title 8.

      (Pub. L. 107–296, title XI, §1101, Nov. 25, 2002, 116 Stat. 2273.)

      Here is the link to the pertinent title of the US Code.

      https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title6/chapter1/subchapter11/partA&edition=prelim

      It truly amazes me that people choose to make assertions about matters of law without actually researching that law.

  10. The group ICEwatch trains citizens to engage in tactical disruption of law enforcement. The group’s leaders should be indicted for conspiracy to impede law enforcement. Those leaders and trainers “own” the tragedy they set in motion.

  11. ACTIONABLE REBELLION

    “It’s time for the American people to organize and to utilize their Second Amendment right to protect themselves from what is clearly become an unaccountable and lawless agency that’s killing Americans,” Fanone told host Maya May on the podcast.

    Fanone also said he didn’t need to hear calls from police to protest peacefully and added, “F— you and f— that.”

    – CNN

  12. I’m just basically going to repeat my last post on another article.

    It’s because the modern left can be addressed with blanket judgement at this point, such is their idiocy and superfluousness: yes, the modern left is a regime with nothing to offer but very much historically failed collectivist policy that largely, if not only, benefits them (feudalism 2.0), and against which our very nation was founded; and that if you still vote for these clowns you are either so old and out of touch you still think you are fighting the civil rights battles of the 60s or so young and indoctrinated you think the state should replace your parents for your care because the alternative is too terrifying for you to contemplate yourself, due to your own legitimate inadequacy largely cultivated by awful parenting, and because you are, in fact, at least at this point in your lives (you could improve, with time, if you weren’t so entitled, and actually took some pride in yourselvesa), not good enough at literally anything whatsoever, including basic thinking, to warrant anyone’s attention (and that is largely your parents’ fault – not ours).

    This could be boilerplate, at this point. It’s getting very old. Thank the gods the aforementioned young idiots are averse to reproducing.

    1. “Thank the gods the aforementioned young idiots are averse to reproducing.”

      Unfortunately the illegals whom they are protecting from deportation have no such aversion, and are probably capable of more than making up the difference.

  13. 95% of the immigrants ICE has arrested have no criminal record and are non-violent. Only 5% were actually violent with criminal records.

    So why are they over-weaponized wearing masks chasing non-violent roofers, gardeners and restaurant/hotel workers?

    1. 100% are illegal aliens and 85% committed violent offenses. So, why are people defending abortionists, rape… rape-rapists, child molesters, groomers, etc? Why are they anti-emigration reform and for American civil liberties unburdened with Democratic gerrymandering and unaffordable, unavailable care?

      1. NN – just as ATS is wrong – your numbers are not accurate either. About 1/3 were convicted of SOME criminal offense – not necessarily violent.
        Of the rest 50%were suspected of or anything short of convicted of crimes.

        Most of the crimes are NOT violent. But it is still about 75% are convicted or alleged criminals.

        This is based on the DHS numbers as of the 12/2025.

        Separately 1.2M self deported last year.

    2. So why are they over-weaponized wearing masks . . .

      Because of people like you, who dox them and use violence against them, or who support people who do those evil things.

      Also your statistics are BS. First, I don’t believe you, because you have proved yourself untrustworthy in the past, and you provided no evidence for your current claim.

      Second, you are obfuscating. ICE is detaining many very, very violent people who are here illegally. Here’s a list of just some of the violent gang members, child-rapists, and murderers they have detained.

      https://x.com/BillMelugin_/status/2010101496034074739

      Furthermore: even if you could show that 95% of all ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS arrested by ICE have no “criminal records” (besides actually being criminals for violating immigration code), that does not mean that 95% of people arrested by mask-wearing, “over-weaponized” (whatever that means) ICE agents have no previous criminal convictions. BTW, I saw you in that group of anti-ICE demonstrators chanting, “All we are saying, is give child-rape a chance.”

    3. “95% of the immigrants ICE has arrested have no criminal record and are non-violent”
      Made up fake statistic alert

      approx 950,000 people were deported by ICE/CBP this year.
      Of those about 1/3 had criminal convictions – in the US or another country.
      Of the remainder more than half were alleged to be criminals – i.e. they were under investigation, had been arrested, were awaiting prosecution,
      Anything short of conviction.

      An additional 1.2M people self deported. We know less about those.

      1. “ approx 950,000 people were deported by ICE/CBP this year.”

        No citation. BS claim. That figure is about immigration cases closed not deportations.

        1. DHS keeps track of every single arrest and deportation and the specifics of it.
          You can go to their website to verify these figures.
          They are updated regularly.
          Further I beleive there is a searchable database. you can find the number who committed each specific crime. or the crimes each deportee committed or is alleged to have committed.

  14. Timmy strikes again. Minnesota Law Allowing Officers to Shoot at Threatening Vehicles Was Signed by Tampon Tim Back in 2020

    OOPS

    1. Not exactly. The law he signed RESTRICTED when police officers can use deadly force. But it remains the case, even under this law, that they can do so when a reasonable policeman in their position would consider his life to be in danger.

      There is NO MENTION AT ALL in this law of using vehicles as weapons. But it’s obvious that a vehicle can be used in that way, and that when it is it has the same status as any other weapon.

      That’s all the meme you are referencing says. It is NOT a quote from the law itself, and anyone claiming that it is a quote is lying, either purposely or negligently. (Yes, negligent lying is still lying, just as negligent defamation is still defamation.)

  15. Dear Prof Turley,

    First of all, U.S. citizens have a constitutional right to peacefully protest the government. Clearly that’s what Good was attempting to do.

    Secondly, I believe Becca Good told the officer he better ‘go get a warrant’, not go get ‘lunch’. I believe that was reasonable advice. In fact, if Renee Good was blocking traffic, a traffic violation, ICE should have called the police to handle the matter as ICE legal authorities are limited to immigration enforcement as I understand them, not traffic violations.

    Thirdly, the video evidence clearly shows the officer was moving quickly to the front driver side and removing is gun almost at the same time as Good put the vehicle into ‘drive’. In fact, Good may not have seen the officer.
    The car had moved forward no more than a couple of feet when the officer fired a round into the far-left corner of the windshield on a trajectory that would have hit Good. I believe that shot may have initiated an involuntary muscle response that depressed the gas pedal to increase the speed of the car. The officer then fired two more point-blank shots through the open driver’s window as the vehicle passed by.
    (note. If mass x speed = kinetic energy, I believe forensic analysis will show the officer’s safety was never in danger)

    Apparently, the entire official justification for this killing is whether the officer reasonably ‘feared for his life’. .. I look forward to cross-examination.

    *aside, I have never seen an ICE agent . .. fortunately, I live in a red (Trump) state.

          1. When you can’t dazzle them with brilliance .. . baffle them with bullsh!t dusty.

            *who do you think ‘feared more for their life’ .. . the girl or the officer?

            1. Girl? So innocent huh? She’ll kill you and then rob you. Leo doesn’t fall for the girl thing. I doubt they noticed. They have a dangerous job to do.

              1. The girl had a bunch of small teddy bears in her glove box .. . idk if she was as pure as the driven snow.

                *Indeed, proper domestic law enforcement is an incredibly difficult, complicated and dangerous job. .. ICE is NOT qualified.

                  1. It’s still a free country dusty .. . it was not illegal for her to put herself in that spot.

                    *you didn’t answer my question; in your [honest] opinion, who feared more for their life, the girl or the officer?

                    1. Who cares? She made a foolish decision and paid for it with her life. If she had fled the scene after hitting the office with her car, she would be looking at a 10-15yr federal prison sentence. You don’t get to use your car to hit an ICE agent, even a little bit, as you are speeding away and resisting arrest. If she had put her car in park and got out of it, she would be home today. He called you stupid because it’s accurate.

                    2. Anybody who feared for their life would have obeyed the officer’s lawful commands. Clearly she saw no consequences for disobedience.
                      The driver did what she liked, and what her partner urged her to.

                    3. Yes, it was illegal for he to put herself in that spot. She was there to interfere with arrests and obstruct law enforcement officers. That is a crime for which she was being arrested. Resisting arrest is itself a crime, even if the arrest itself is unlawful.

                1. . But, you’d be happy to have the officer at Uvalde, right?

                  Right. Officers use all senses when on duty. The whistles and banging pans obstruct hearing and increase danger. It’s all absurd.

                2. Check them for drugs. She entices children into her SUV most likely.

                  Go get some lunch, dg. Go on big boy, big girl.

            2. DG
              Who put themselves in a situation they didn’t belong? Who fled a lawful order after obstruction and interfering with a federal policing action?

              1. . I’m not against standing quietly at a distance watching what’s going on as an observer, peacefully. No noise, no yelling, to obstruct hearing that might mask gunfire and other dangerous sounds law enforcement needs to hear.

    1. DG
      Clearly that’s what Good was attempting to do.
      _______________________
      You are so full of it. She wasn’t driving home after dropping of her child.
      She belongs to a group that follow ICE and harass them.
      She blocked the ICE truck with her car. Officer got and told her she was under arrest.

      She hit the gas and lost her life, because she was stupid!

      1. Being stupid is not a legal justification for the use of deadly force dusty.

        *if it was, there would be a lot of dead doornails around here.

        1. It is when the stupid took the vehicle out of reverse, put it in drive, and hit the ICE officer with what was now a lethal weapon. Did not help her wife was yelling, “Drive! Drive! Drive!”
          As it has been noted, Assaults against ICE up 1300%, vehicular attacks up 3200%, death threats up 8000%
          https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/assaults-against-ice-1300-vehicular-attacks-3200-death-threats-8000?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home
          If you are a ICE LEO, or any LEO for that matter, these days, they have to view any and all confrontations with possible escalation of violence by left wing activists to include bodily harm and or death. We have seen people use vehicles as weapons before.

          1. We don’t know if Good even saw the officer in front .. . the video evidence seems to show she was distracted and looking at the officer at her door.

            I have no doubt “Assaults against ICE up 1300%, vehicular attacks up 3200%, death threats up 8000%”

            There are substantial differences and legal authorities among Law enforcement agencies.

            *my view is ICE should all the information about specific ‘illegal aliens’, along with final deport orders/warrants, before they EVER HIT THE STREETS.

          2. *and no .. . being stupid is NOT a legal justification for the use of deadly force by any Law enforcement agency.

            1. The justification for the use of deadly force is a serious threat of death or bodily harm to the person using force or to others,
              as determined by a reasonable person in the shoes of the shooter.

              Stupid often tags along with dangerous.

      2. Whistles, banging pans, screaming, bullhorns are harassing tools. The Constitution says peaceable assembly. Those are illegal obstructions.

        1. Who says whistles, banging pans, screaming, bullhorns are harassing tools? Maybe a violation of sound, disturbing the peace ordinances perhaps .. . call the LAW.

          *on the contrary, it seems to me Trump, VP JD and Sec. Noam’s DHS have put ICE agents in a very difficult, perhaps unwinnable, position.

          1. Who says whistles, banging pans, screaming, bullhorns are harassing tools? Maybe a violation of sound, disturbing the peace ordinances perhaps .. . call the LAW.

            What do you think is the definition of harassment? This behavior is exactly what harassment is. And ICE have no need to “call the law”. They are the law.

    2. I’m sure ICE would greatly prefer to be able to call MPD to arrest rowdy, militant, law-breaking “resisters”.

      Don’t you know MPD is under orders (state and local) not to cooperate or help ICE in any way?

      1. After this killing, it seems much of America refuses to cooperate or help ICE in any way. .. can’t kill them all.

        *evidently, only a few dwindling Trump MAGA-mob cult zombies continue to support this divisive madness and anarchy.

        1. “After this killing, it seems much of America refuses to cooperate or help ICE in any way”
          No just some of the far left.

          These protests are relatively small, further protesters who violate the law are being arrested – as Good wood have been.
          There were 20 arrests in Minneapolis today.

          Ice Arrested 950,000 illegals last year.
          Do you think with almost 10 times the number of agents they can not arrest a couple of thousand protesters who interfere ?

          “evidently, only a few dwindling Trump MAGA-mob cult zombies continue to support this divisive madness and anarchy.”

          We have anarchy when we do not enforce our laws.
          If you do not like the law work to change it.
          Anything else is anarchy.

          Do not pi$$ on LEOs for doing their job.
          Do not get in their way because you do not like the law.

          Protest, observe, record, if Law enforcement Actually acts unlawfully – they too can be prosecuted if you provide the evidence.
          But do not interfere .

          Substituting your judgement for that of LEOs will get someone killed.
          That is rare – but 9 times out of ten it is NOT going to be law enforcement that gets killed.
          And still nearly 200 police are killed each year – and you can bet every one of the officers in the country hears about every single killing.

          Renee good should be an object lesson to those of you on the left on what NOT to do, and how legal protest can cross the line to obstruction and how willingness to do anything to fail to comply with the law will result in Death.

          Government is FORCE – never forget that.

          Our laws are enforced by men with guns who will kill you.
          No one wants that – but it is an absolute necescity if you wish to avoid anarchy.

          If you are willing to resist the enforcement of the smallest of laws – you are escalating. Greater force will be necescary to compel compliance. If YOU take that far enough – the result is your death or that of the officer. Your choice.
          LEOs have very little choice – they must enforce the law.

          Good was willing to obstruct – and therefor endanger officers, She refused lawful orders by an LEO. She resisted arrest, she attempted to flee, she did so recklessly and dangerously posing an immediate and serious threat to two officers – and a potential threat to everyone between her and escape. She was obligated to back down and comply rather than escalate.

          Her death is a perfect example of how people who think they are doing good can rapidly go out of control resulting in death.

          NEVER forget Govenrment is FORCE.

          Laws are not imposed by rainbows and unicorn farts. ALWAYS were there is no compliance there are men with guns.

          That is true of the laws you like and the ones you do not.

    3. Why do we gt the same BS over and over ?

      “First of all, U.S. citizens have a constitutional right to peacefully protest the government.”
      absolutely.

      “Clearly that’s what Good was attempting to do.”
      Protest and Obstruct are different – the former is legal the latter is not.
      Gopod was obstructing.

      “I believe Becca Good told the officer he better ‘go get a warrant’, not go get ‘lunch’. ”
      False the audio is clear -but even if true it is not relevant.
      an LEO does not need a warrant to arrest someone for a crime they observed.

      “if Renee Good was blocking traffic, a traffic violation,”
      It can be two things at once. In this case it was also obstructing federal law enforcement.

      “ICE should have called the police to handle the matter as ICE legal authorities are limited to immigration enforcement as I understand them, not traffic violations.”
      Irrelevant and wrong. Generally any LEO can make an arrest for any crime they observe, if they do not have jurisdiction then they turn the suspect over to an LEO who does. Regardless Good was obstructing the enforcement of immigration law and ICE can arrest you for that.

      “the video evidence clearly shows the officer was moving quickly to the front driver side and removing is gun almost at the same time as Good put the vehicle into ‘drive’.”
      Correct – when Good put the car in Gear the officer sarted moving quickly.

      ” In fact, Good may not have seen the officer.”
      In correct – in the video she is starting right at him.
      regardless if you are so reckless than you can not see someone right in front of your car – then you are a danger to others.

      “The car had moved forward no more than a couple of feet when the officer fired a round into the far-left corner of the windshield on a trajectory that would have hit Good.”
      We do not have snything on the trjectory and which shots hit good. All we know is she is dead.

      “I believe that shot may have initiated an involuntary muscle response that depressed the gas pedal to increase the speed of the car.”
      Please clarify ? Good depressed the gas, the officer fired the shot.

      “The officer then fired two more point-blank shots through the open driver’s window as the vehicle passed by.”
      That appears to be the case. We know he fired 3 shots. We know one hit the windsheild.

      “(note. If mass x speed = kinetic energy, I believe forensic analysis will show the officer’s safety was never in danger)”
      F = ma NOT F=mv. Making reasonable guestimates of the weight of the vehicle – 4200-5000lb, and the acceleration, 2-4m/s^2
      yeilds a force of 3500-8000N – if takes about 4000N to break a bone.
      This is way more than enough force to cause serious bodily injury – the standard.
      Further we do not expect LEOs to perform physics calculations in microseconds.

      “Apparently, the entire official justification for this killing is whether the officer reasonably ‘feared for his life’. .. I look forward to cross-examination.”
      Ther will not be any – there will be no charges.

    4. First of all, U.S. citizens have a constitutional right to peacefully protest the government.

      Yes, they do.

      Clearly that’s what Good was attempting to do.

      No, that is NOT what she was doing. She was deliberately obstructing the officers, blocking their way with her car, and attempting to prevent them from arresting people. There is no right to do that.

      Secondly, I believe Becca Good told the officer he better ‘go get a warrant’

      He didn’t need a warrant. He witnessed a crime, and had full authority to arrest her for it.

      if Renee Good was blocking traffic, a traffic violation,

      It was not just a traffic violation, it was obstructing law enforcement, which is itself a crime.

      ICE legal authorities are limited to immigration enforcement

      No, it is not. ICE offices, like all law enforcement officers, are authorized to arrest people for ANY crime, including obstruction and resisting arrest.

      the video evidence clearly shows the officer was moving quickly to the front driver side and removing is gun almost at the same time as Good put the vehicle into ‘drive’.

      It shows him pulling his gun immediately AFTER she accelerated towards him. At that point his life was in danger and he was entitled to use deadly force to defend it.

      I look forward to cross-examination.

      There will be no trial, because there will be no federal indictment, and the state has no authority. Any state indictment will immediately be removed to federal court, and there dismissed.

  16. The DOJ and Kash Patel won’t share evidence with Minnesota investigators. This happened after the DHS Secretary already decided the verdict.

    A federal agency head decided the verdict (without evidence) and now federal investigators shut out Minnesota investigators.

    This speaks volumes!

    1. Ano
      This speaks volumes!
      When the governor and mayor refuse to left their police do their job… Speaks volumes too!

    2. Do you have evidence we have not seen ?

      Thus far there is no evidence this shooting was not justified.

      If there is a crime here – it is a federal crime. The courts and the law do not allow federal agents to be tried in state courts for alleged state crimes. This is not new.

      MN has no jurisdiction. The FBI/DOJ do.

    3. Reminds me of when the federal government investigated federal employee Michael Byrd, and determined his slaying of an unarmed protestor to be lawful.

  17. Why hasn’t Becca Good been arrested? She confessed. I did it, I did it, she said.

    Yep, Justices, ICE doesnt need the NG. Cool opinion.

    🌲

      1. It’s a tragedy is what it is caused by moronic tools. Old ladies with whistles is similar to a dynamite vest on a crying child racing toward troops. That’s the mentality you’re dealing with.

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