“Incredible, Unstoppable Titan of Terror!”: The Lobster That Devoured Virginia’s Constitution

“Incredible, unstoppable titan of terror!” Those words advertising the 1954 movie Godzilla could be the billing of a new freakish giant stretching across the sleeping farm fields of Virginia. Now in a court near you is The Lobster, a monster over 100 miles long. The only saving grace is that this creature only devours Republicans, leaving roughly half the state with virtually no representation in Congress.

Virginia was a quiet, pastoral state before the creature’s appearance. It was considered the gold standard among states rejecting gerrymandering, with fairly divided districts in a state divided right down the middle. It then elected a governor, Gov. Abigail Spanberger, who assured voters that she was adamantly against gerrymandering and then immediately called for the most radical gerrymandered map in the nation after she was elected.

The mad scientists who created this monster, now called the 7th Congressional District, created other weirdly shaped monstrosities designed to reduce a fairly evenly divided representation in the state to a 10-1 advantage for Democrats.

While one lower court has struck down the plan, another district judge recently looked at the Lobster and ran for cover. Richmond Circuit Court Judge Tracy Thorne-Begland seems to follow the view of the 2019 Godzilla creators that “sometimes… the only way to heal our wounds is to make peace with the demons who created them.”

What is most notable about the opinion is how irrelevant the Virginia constitutional and statutory standards are in the analysis. Among other things, the state law requires districts to be “compact,” not crustacean-shaped. The Constitution states districts “shall be composed of contiguous and compact territory and shall be so constituted as to give, as nearly as is practicable, representation in proportion to the population of the district.”

Without a suggestion of humor, the court states dryly that the new districts are “undoubtedly less compact than the ones they replace. They are certainly partisan gerrymanders. They displace both representatives and voters into new, oddly shaped districts.”

In one of the most bizarre lines, the court declares, “reasonable and objective persons reached different conclusions on the effects of the 2026 maps. The issue of compactness is fairly debatable.”

Fairly debatable on compactness? It is a giant lobster stretching over 100 miles. It is a true “Godzilla!” spotting. but Judge Thorne-Begland just shrugged and walked away.

While the court is not the first to note how these terms are subject to different interpretations, the “subjectivity” cited by the court makes the standard largely meaningless. The compactness requirement has been described as “somewhat abstract” with no “bright line” test. Vesilind v. Va. State Bd. of Elections, 295 Va. 427, 444-45 (2018). However, this approach would effectively remove the language as holding any substantive interpretive meaning.

Judge Thorne-Begland effectively holds that it is really not his job to fight the Lobster: “This Court knows its role is clear. It is not to assess the wisdom of public policy nor to engage in policy making from the bench.”

There are a myriad of problems with the Virginia gerrymandering measure, from the vague language to the special sessions used to craft it. Thorne-Begland, however, shows the same reaction as the Japanese citizens in Tokyo who ran screaming from the creature’s approach as it crushed everything in its path.

It is not clear how the Virginia Supreme Court will rule on the matter. Many of us who have long opposed gerrymandering by both parties hope they will hold the line and reject this effort. It will take considerable courage. These justices rely on a democratically controlled legislature for their positions.

The Supreme Court can do as Judge Thorne-Begland did and just take flight. They can treat the prior standards and procedures as aspirational or irrelevant. Or they can act as a true check on legislative excess and abuse.

In the end, the Japanese horror writers were right about one thing: “Godzilla and Biollante aren’t monsters. It’s the unscrupulous scientists who create them that are monsters.”

Jonathan Turley is a law professor and the New York Times best-selling author of “Rage and the Republic: The Unfinished Story of the American Revolution.”
This column ran on Fox.com

142 thoughts on ““Incredible, Unstoppable Titan of Terror!”: The Lobster That Devoured Virginia’s Constitution”

  1. Now we must suffer Virginia, inter alia, adding it to our “immigration” problem.
    (“five Virginia localities are labeled as sanctuary jurisdictions by the Center for Immigration Studies.” https://www.thecentersquare.com/virginia/article_cf9ae8e0-4bf0-11ed-bc56-e3e61067c396.html)

    –Notwithstanding, I believe that blaming Texas for starting this whole gerrymandering gamesmanship belies the fact that Texas had good reason for doing so.
    Texas is the second state with the largest illegal immigrant population (just below California). -And the immigrants are densely populated and protected in Texas’ largest urban areas (Houston, Dallas, Austin, El Paso) with the highest representation in Congress. All of these cities are overwhelmingly populated with Democrats.

    Now, take the time to notice on the enclosed map the location/proximity of Houston, Austin, etc. to the southern border (zoom in with the cursor). The largest geographic area/district in TX is Nuevo-Laredo along the SW border of TX. Look at its Democrat population. https://thetexan.news/texas-partisan-index/
    Think Jasmine Crockett (self-explanatory), Al Green (removed from Trump’s SOTU for disruption), Veronica Escobar (her staffer posed as an attorney to gain access into ICE facility and hand out cell phones to detainees), Joaquin Castro (who doxxed/published the names and employers of Trump donors), etc. I was going to add the sweet-mouthed Maxine Waters, but she’s in California…

    …just food for thought.

    1. Texas started this because Trump commanded them to and they happily obliged. This started with Trump’s need to get a leg up for the midterms which were clearly going to be a problem for Republicans along with Trump’s sagging poll numbers and failing economic policies that produced nothing of what he promised.

      1. My comment is directed toward the issue of illegal immigration. Did you happen to see that? thx anyway

        1. Why would illegal immigration be grounds for redistricting? They cannot vote.

          Also, congressional representation is not “higher” in Houston. It is per capita.

          The TX map was already gerrymandered in favor of the GOP. There is no reason they needed to redistrict mid-Census other than to further stack the deck in their favor, to minimize the impact of Trump’s poor polling.

              1. The Census is more than just a tool for apportionment of electoral votes and congressional seats.

                No it isn’t. The only purpose for which the constitution created the census is apportionment. Any other use to which people put it is lagniappe. And no, it doesn’t benefit “red states”; it benefits “blue cities”. A state gets no benefit from having an urban enclave elect another Democrat who represents only his urban constituents and does not give a flying **** about the state’s interests.

                1. How the heck do you think presidential electoral votes are apportioned?

                  And no, per Art I, Sec 2, the Census was originally also intended to be used for apportionment of taxation among the states. Not just apportionment of seats. You may want to re-read the Constitution.

                  1. No, it wasn’t. YOU read it, since you’ve obviously never read it before.

                    Only DIRECT TAXES must be apportioned according to the census. And since no one seems to know what that means, Congress has never imposed a direct tax.

        2. You also mentioned the gerrymandering problem. Which is more on topic than the illegal immigration comment just randomly added.

          1. (1) Because apportionment in the House is premised on overall population of a district, -not “legal” immigrant/citizen population.
            Ergo. If you are Hispanic and a voting citizen, and your district is 55% Hispanic (including both legal and illegal immigrants) and you have a choice of electing either a Hispanic female or a white male, who would you vote for?
            This is why Democrats have increasingly tried to alienate Hispanic voters against Trump.

            (2) In 2023, there were 1.67 MILLION ILLEGAL/UNDOCUMENTED persons -in Texas alone- who were from Mexico and South America. I suspect that the number has grown to at least 1.8 million by 2026.
            https://www.migrationpolicy.org/data/unauthorized-immigrant-population/state/TX

            (3) Illegal immigrants can become VOTING citizens in as little as five years. Did you forget that illegal immigrants can gain legal status by merely marrying a U.S. citizen, getting a job with a U.S. employer, or applying for asylum. Then they merely wait five years…. That means that those who first came here illegally under Biden are already eligible for citizenship…..

            (4) And what was your point about “Trump’s poor polling?” See attached, thank you
            https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/joe-biden-approval-rating-by-state

            There is only one thing that keeps me a Republican and not an Independent. It is the issue of Immigration, so I openly and proudly admit my bias against those who would thumb their noses at our sovereignty and rules of law.

            1. Now do presidential electoral vote apportionment…

              Does Texas benefit from its illegal population?

      2. Trump didn’t “command” Texas to do anything. He can’t. The Texas legislature is not under his authority.

        Texas had to redraw some districts because they had been drawn to give an advantage to a racial group, and that is now illegal. DOJ had informed Texas that if it didn’t redraw those districts it would sue the state. And since they were redrawing the map, they had every right under both the US and TX constitutions to draw it in their partisan favor.

        But VA’s constitution doesn’t allow partisan districting, so the Dems had to amend it, but there was no way an amendment could pass in time for 2026, so they cheated. It’s now in the supreme court’s hands to decide whether they cheated legally or illegally. If the court decides it was legal, then we can expect to see these new methods for amending the constitution become standard. If the constitution can be amended in six months rather than two years, then that’s how future amendments will be done too.

        1. Trump told Texas he wanted more Republican seats. They gladly obliged. He told them to redistrict. It’s what started the whole redistricting wars.

          1. Of course he wanted more Republican seats. Every Republican should want that, just as every Democrat wants more Democrat seats. No one deliberately gives the other side more seats than they have to.

            But Trump did not “order” Texas to do anything. He can’t. They had to redistrict because they had an illegally drawn district that DOJ was threatening to sue over. And of course they were going to do it to favor them; they’d be stupid to do it to favor the opposition, wouldn’t they?

  2. Once citizens realize that consent is being managed upstream through maps and process tricks, they don’t just shrug and keep playing. The ones who still care will look for pressure points outside the ballot box; the rest will quietly back away from public life. Either way, we’re not forming one citizenry but splintering into enclaves that either shout from the margins or stop speaking at all. That feels less like ‘consent of the governed’ and more like the slow balkanization of a people who no longer recognize the system as theirs.

    1. This argument falls into a dangerous trap: you blame the system for a lack of trust that is actually being manufactured by political leaders. Like Trump and Republicans claims of voter fraud and rigged elections.

      The answer to a map you don’t like is to organize, move, or vote in the next cycle—not to ‘shout from the margins’ or threaten the system. That’s what Democrats did and Republicans don’t like where it leads because they are on the losing side.

      You say citizens ‘no longer recognize the system as theirs,’ but fail to mention why. It isn’t just ‘process tricks’ like gerrymandering; it is years of Trump and Republicans telling voters that any election they lose is ‘stolen’ or ‘fraudulent.’ When you spend years telling people the house is on fire, you can’t act surprised when they stop wanting to live in it.

      Your ‘balkanization’ fears are actually made worse by the very rhetoric they are using. Telling citizens that their consent is being ‘managed’ and that the system is no longer ‘theirs,’ you’re actively encouraging people to retreat into enclaves. If we are to have a unified citizenry, we have to stop telling voters that their neighbors are ‘threats’ and that the law is a ‘monster’ because they are losing the argument or advantage. This is what Trump and Republicans fall back on whenever things don’t start going their way or their policies and agenda starts to backfire. It starts when they gaslight their own voters into thinking their ‘values’ and ‘cultural’ status is in jeopardy because the “left” is violent or irrational” is used as distraction from their policy failures and lack of results.

      The truth is, in Virginia, the very ‘process tricks’ you complain about were authorized by a statewide vote of the people. To claim this isn’t ‘consent of the governed’ is to ignore the fact that the majority of voters chose this path.

      Why is it when voters clearly choose a path that Republicans don’t like they proclaim something along the lines of “ the voters don’t know what they want” mentality? Republicans want to rule, not govern.

      1. I am not interested in keeping score on which team lies more. The real question is why any of this works in the first place. In a republic, the people are supposed to be the teachers and officeholders the students.

        Consent is not something to be managed with better messaging, maps, or narratives.

        If voters can be talked into treating every loss as illegitimate, that is not just on the politician. It is also a warning about the civic strength of the people. As James Madison made clear, no system on paper can preserve liberty without virtue in the citizens.

        When I say “managed consent,” I am describing what happens when leaders treat citizens as an audience instead of owners. Some push outside the system. Others check out. Either way, you stop getting one people capable of a shared yes or no.

        So this is not about which side is losing.

        It is about whether we are still forming citizens who can govern themselves. If we are not, elections can be won without the system being sustained.

        1. Olly, the question needed to get to the problem is who is preventing the formation of these citizens needed to truly self govern? Because right now. It’s only those whoever have the most money and influence (power) to determine who is a citizen and how they are allowed to form (education). Republicans have always been big proponents of getting rid of public education, why? Because those in power get to control private education and decide who deserves to be educated to a certain point. Keeping people at a certain education level benefits those in power. The only way to circumvent that is through public education free for all. Remember, Trump loves the uneducated for a reason. Because they are an easier to fool than educated folks.

          So what is your solution for forming citizens free from influence from either party or ideology or religion?

          1. X, I agree with you that the formation question is the right one. In a self-governing country, the issue is whether we are forming citizens who can govern themselves, not just voters who can be steered by whoever holds the most influence.

            Where I part ways is tying that problem to one party. My concern is not public education in principle. It is public education as practiced, where many parents see it drifting from civic formation into a narrower ideological frame. That is a debate over content and purpose, not an argument for keeping people ignorant.

            On Trump, his full line included both the highly educated and the poorly educated before he said “I love the poorly educated.” The point is not to defend the phrasing. It is to show how quickly we select the fragment that confirms our view of the other side. That habit exists across the board, and it is part of the formation problem.

            I do not think we can form citizens who are free from influence. Families, schools, media, and culture all shape people. The real question is whether citizens are equipped to recognize when any of those forces are trying to use them instead of inform them.

            That is where public education still has a role, but as civic formation, not ideological training. Teach how the system works, how to test claims, how to argue in good faith, and how to live with disagreement without turning neighbors into enemies. That is the kind of civic virtue James Madison was talking about.

            For any of this to work, citizens have to want to be formed for self-government. That starts with an operational definition of what a self-governing citizen actually is. That alone is a serious undertaking. Once defined, it has to be measurable at the national, state, local, and individual level.

            Otherwise, we are arguing about outcomes with no shared standard for what we are trying to produce. If we cannot define and measure it, we cannot expect to sustain it.

            So the solution is not to eliminate influence. It is to form citizens who can see through it, question it, and refuse to be carried along by it, even when it comes from their own side. If we do not recover that, it will not matter who wins. The system will keep weakening underneath them.

            1. According to the Chicago Teachers Union, the teaching of critical thinking skills is considered the perpetuation of white supremacy.
              The skills of thinking have been replaced with emotion.
              This is why they shoot each other at the age of 12.
              With no corrective consequences, also due to the CTU Marxists regime in the mayoral suite.
              The Chicago Teachers Union are successfully achieving exactly what they set out to do- create a populace that cannot think, but is drowning in emotion.
              This is public education in Chicago, grooming and dooming generations of kids and the CTU is very proud of it.

              1. Anna, we are so far past the point of needing anecdotes to “prove” institutional failure. If our body politic could be wheeled into an emergency room, the CTU would be one finding on a very long chart, not the whole diagnosis.

                You would see chronic civic illiteracy, collapsing trust, families and communities too weak to carry basic formation, media and platforms that reward outrage instead of thought, and school systems that often respond by lowering expectations or preaching ideology instead of building skills. The CTU story fits that pattern, but it is not unique to Chicago.

                My concern in this thread is that we keep fighting over which symptom to blame on which faction, while the patient keeps getting weaker. Until we decide what a healthy, self‑governing citizen is and start judging all of our institutions against that standard, we are just arguing in the waiting room while the vital signs slide in the wrong direction.

          2. Are you saying that public education ISN’T controlled by those in power?Please come to Chicago and say that to the Chicago Teachers Union.
            They will laugh in your face.
            Say why don’t you swing by this May 1 and watch all the kids out on the streets marching for Marxism?
            All of this sponsored by the Mayor and his CTU marxist comrades.
            These public school “educated” kids cannot read, write or think but they know their pronouns

  3. PS to Professor Turley: Thank you for noting that, over time, both parties, even very recently, have engaged in gerrymandering, which should always be opposed, as many Replies will doubtless cite (repeatedly) Captain Renault’s The Usual Suspects: “socialist marxist communists,” “progressives” (an insult to Theodore Roosevelt and the Progressives of the early 20th century), “DemonRats,” “Dumbocrats,” “Libtards,” etc.:

    https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/12/supreme-court-allows-texas-to-use-redistricting-map-challenged-as-racially-discriminatory/

    For the word’s history: https://blogs.loc.gov/loc/2024/07/gerrymandering-the-origin-story/

    It has essentially come to mean “the other guys won” or “will win.”

  4. Election law is a complexity of federal and state constitutional, statutory and case law. For more on the Virginia case:

    https://www.dailypress.com/2026/04/27/virginia-supreme-court-considers-legality-of-redistricting-election/

    https://www.vpm.org/elections/2026-04-22/tazewell-vrc-scott-redistricting-gerrymandering-lawsuits-faq-explainer

    BTW – The 1954 Godzilla was much better, coming only 9 years after Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Anyone remember the ending?

  5. Turley has often argued for judicial restraint—the idea that judges should stay out of politics—when courts are asked to strike down conservative policies. Here, he pivots to demand judicial activism, insisting a judge should use a subjective visual “smell test” (the “Lobster” shape) to strike down a voter-approved law.

    Turley mocks the compactness requirement as “fairly debatable”. But As noted by Judge Thorne-Begland, Virginia law has long held that “compactness” is a subjective and abstract term with no “bright line” test. Turley wants a ‘bright line test’ because it makes it easier to dismiss the current effort to redistrict in favor of democrats.

    The new map was not just a legislative decree; it was authorized by a statewide referendum where a majority of Virginia voters (51.6%) chose to amend their own Constitution to allow this process.

    Turley argues that the court is failing to protect voters, yet weirdly enough he is essentially asking the court to overrule the direct vote of those same citizens who just approved the change to their government. Republicans are all for the power of voters until it is not in their favor.

    Turley is treating Virginia’s map as an isolated act of aggression rather than a defensive tactical move in a nationwide “arms race,” he presents a one-sided legal narrative that ignores the political a reality of contemporary gerrymandering. A reality that begins with Trump and his attempt to rig the elections before they even start. This is why Democratic leaders and Governor Spanberger explicitly framed the referendum as a necessary check on Republican-led mid-decade redistricting in other states, which they correctly argue is being pushed by President Trump to “rig” the House map before the midterms.

    Turley laments the loss of the “gold standard” bipartisan commission.
    But he ignores the fact that the commission he praises consistently deadlocked after the 2020 census, forcing the Virginia Supreme Court to step in and draw the maps itself in 2023 because the “fair” process failed to function. Thanks to Republican resistance.

  6. Amend the law—> contiguous, compact and resembling an animal. The 5th graders lead by Beavis and Butthead decided it should resemble a scorpion, the scorpions. It does look like a lobster, kids.

    Use longitude and latitude when constructing districts. Longitude and latitude are neutral. Children are instinctual creatures and the use of reason is generally learned if not instinctual.

    1. It’s in literature, Lord of the Flies.

      Btw, Apocalypse Now is based on The Heart of Darkness. The horror, the horror!

      1. ^^^^ That’s 3 in a row for me. It’s the repetition of descent into savagery for civilizations. These people are just stewpid.

        You’ll need to fix it.

  7. Re: ” It’s the unscrupulous scientists who create them that are monsters.” Hardly!! The monsters are they who hired them.
    Do not send to know who was elected. Rather send to know who voted. Therein lies. the rub.

  8. This change sets up Virginia to become the “New East-Coast California”, the die is cast, so be it.
    The irritating thing is that Virginia already has Sky-High-Taxes. Once the Mamdani-Newsom Tax plans kick in You bet your sweet bippy that the State’s motto will change from “Virginia is for Lovers” to “Virginia is for Suckers”.

  9. Ignoring the daily trolling….any Idiot can look at the Spamburger Map and see what was done by the Democrats.

    When you go from the Republican Map that resulted in a nearly even split to the Spamburger Map that goes to 10/1 in favor of the Democrats and can in no way be seen as “compact” with the net result of 49% of Voters winding up with 9% of the representation….even the Virginia Supreme Court should be able to put an end to this nonsense and declare the new Map un-constitutional.

    If that Court which right now has a five/four split (oddly demonstratively similar to the Republican drawn Map) cannot put partisan politics aside in deciding a Legal Case…then Virginia deserves what has happened to them. As it not only the Map case…but all the new taxes and anti-gun, anti-history, and anti-traditional values that goes right along with it that is the tragic outcome of whole runaway Legislature spawned by the Democrats.

    I for one have decided my travels shall not include any part of Virginia….which I do often as I very much enjoy visiting DC and a particular Irish Tavern on King Street in Alexandria. I encourage others to do the same.

    Until Virginians come to their senses there is no reason for us to provide them any financial support. Actually my Rule used to be “No further North than Richmond with one exception for Museums, DC for the Monuments and Memorials, and that one Irish Bar. Now…no need to cross the State Line that separates me from Virginia.

    I shall do my small bit to defeat this surge of radical Leftists in North Carolina by voting “No!” to King Roy Cooper, our former AG turned Governor, who is running for Thom Tillis’ seat in the Senate and is being opposed by Michael Whatley from the Republican Party.

  10. Democrats — and in particular, radical Democrat politicians — are evil, unprincipled and dangerous predators. They are intent on first destroying Virginia, then after that, the Republic. Let us see if the Virginia Supreme Court has the huevos to stop them.

  11. Come On Man! The CIA Alum Governor learned well during her days with the Masters of Dis and Mis Information! The Sheeple of the world need to be herded and led to their demise in all cases because dissent is not easily controlled! Dissent being anything that threatens the control of the Sheeple by the Anointed Illuminati – like Spamberger!!

  12. Judge Tracy Thorne-Begland reveals himself to be a rather unique character: a spineless stooge’s stooge.

  13. Trump Republicans started this nationwide strategy. Now Republicans don’t like what they started.

    Solution: Trump Republicans should man-up and woman-up admitting it was a mistake.

    1. everyone forgets about Illinois,
      it’s been gerrymandered in favor of perpetual Blue for years.
      they are currently trying to gerrymander the gerrymander.
      Pritzger needs a current media plug for his run in 2028

  14. Turley, is a lobster any less compact than a horseshoe? Horseshoes are compact, per the VA Supreme Court, thanks to the GOP.

  15. For those who actually care about the Supreme Court of Virginia’s precedent on “compactness” – (remember when Turley cared about legal analysis?) — here are some resources:

    https://lawreview.richmond.edu/files/2021/02/Chambers-551.227.pdf
    https://www.troutman.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/decennial-redistricting-in-va-localities_piepgrasss.pdf

    Vesilind v. Va. State Bd. of Elections, 295 Va. 427, 444-45, 813 S.E.2d 739, 748 (2018).

    “Compactness is a subjective inquiry under Virginia law, which is unsurprising given the Vesilind court’s acknowledgment that compactness is an “abstract concept.” Electoral districts must be compact, but compactness is only one of several appropriate redistricting principles that can be used together to create an acceptable district. The compactness standard’s lack of clarity makes complying with Virginia’s contiguousness and compactness requirements easy. Indeed, the Vesilind court deemed a House district that wrapped around another district like a horseshoe to be compact. Consequently, Virginia’s bar for contiguousness and compactness is so low that it functionally may be no bar at all.”

    Of course, Turley does not actually acknowledge the Vesilind map as direct precedent – which was drawn by a GOP-controlled General Assembly, no less.

    Turley, now do Florida! I won’t hold my breadth. This ridiculous arms race was started by Texas and Trump. We all lose.

    1. “Compact” being a subjective standard does not mean that there is not a reasonably understood definition of the word “compact”. While one can differ somewhat, the very opposite of compact can not be considered to fall within the subjective definition of the word.

      1. What is the opposite of compact? How is the district the “opposite” of compact?

        If the people of Virginia cared about revising the law after its Supreme Court severely limited the value of this restriction, then they would changed the law.

  16. This gerrymandering shows the true bankruptcy of the Democrat Party. It is just I hope the last roundup of desperate self-interested self-seeking narcissists and liars. The thoroughly corrupted mainstream media is now discredited. The governance of Virginia is thoroughly partisan, and thoroughly corrupt. Hopefully the U.S. Supreme Court will strike down this gerrymandering nonsense. Even if not the survival of the Democrat Party is know just a matter of time. For America’s next generation the big issue is going to be how to restructure our political parties to actually represent the people.

      1. I hold out no hope for madness to cease as madness has become the new normal for the Democratic Party.

        1. @S

          I don’t disagree. My hope is that we can deal with it without violent conflict this time. There is no need, and though I do think your average blue *voter* is simply woefully uninformed, and I still think due to my own interactions that the radical fringe are a minority in this country (and yet people will not look at their kids and realize they are the ones who raised them); nevertheless, unfortunately, that includes the modern dem ‘political class’ (*cough*aristocracy*cough*) in total. They are insane. absolutely, bat poop insane, and nothing they propose or represent is good for anyone. We are at the point where the dems are basically, collectively, Caligula. That did not help Rome to survive. They are also the worst aspects of 20th century fascism. Many are too young to remember, and they don’t have parents grounding them.

    1. The standard in VA was created by a GOP-drawn map in 2018. which the VA Supreme Court upheld despite its clear lack of compactness.

  17. Virginia and California just show the folly of “independent redistricting commissions”. As soon as they become inconvenient, they are done away with.

  18. CIA director and his executives…like Spanberger need to be JAILED

    Everyone involved in the Russian Hoax or helping illegal invaders…need to be jailed…and I mean by the 10,000’s

    Democrats are FIGHTING A CIVIL WAR!

  19. Democrats Vote for the CIA to do their Fascist Work!

    Time to DESTROY the Democrat Party!

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